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2012-09-24 01:49:59 PM
5 votes:
3.polizeros.com 

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2012-09-24 03:03:00 PM
2 votes:
I voted for Obama in '08, and will again in '12.
2012-09-24 02:39:47 PM
2 votes:

wademh: Dr Dreidel:
... If you don't live within an hour of a NASCAR track, you're not likely to get to a race ....

You know nothing about NASCAR fans.


Yeah, I laughed at that, too. When I was stationed in Altus, Oklahoma, some of my neighbors were part of a big crown of local Nascar fans that caravaned the 700 miles to Talladega, Alabama twice a year for the races. They were die-hard.

PS - Firefox wants to correct Talladega to "Gallbladder"... ;)
2012-09-24 02:31:11 PM
2 votes:

Dr Dreidel:
... If you don't live within an hour of a NASCAR track, you're not likely to get to a race ....


You know nothing about NASCAR fans.
2012-09-24 02:19:34 PM
2 votes:

SevenizGud: CokeBear: You know how I know the GOP is doomed?

Because the outcome of the last election was the GOP taking over congress in a beat-down of historic proportions? Just guessing....


Posts like these are what that Bruce Springsteen song "Glory Days" are about.
2012-09-24 02:12:59 PM
2 votes:
FTA: And among those sympathetic to the tea party, Romney holds a 75 to 17 percent edge.

WTF? If this guy only has 3/4 of the tea party vote, he's totally farked. That's like Netanyahu having 17% of the Iranian vote.
2012-09-24 02:11:01 PM
2 votes:
Maybe NASCAR is attracting more new fans who are Democrats, rather than Obama attracting more new supporters who like NASCAR.
2012-09-24 02:05:19 PM
2 votes:
i47.photobucket.com
2012-09-24 12:23:11 PM
2 votes:
Checkered flag.
2012-09-24 04:58:40 PM
1 votes:
This explains the weird Zogby polling call we got this weekend. The poll's first question asked if we thought the country was going in the right direction, then all the following calls asked about college football. For some reason, the Big Ten conference was not among the first few questions, and we live in Ohio (but GO BLUE!) It was the strangest of all the polls we've had, and that included a poll that kept asking why I was voting for Romney (I'm not).
2012-09-24 04:50:18 PM
1 votes:

downstairs: As a NASCAR fan (and someone who would most likely vote for Obama without a viable 3rd party)... I'm rather surprised.  Many fans of NASCAR are not uneducated hicks from the south... but its still a large portion of the fanbase unfortunately (judging by how many confederate flags I see during tailgating.)


I used to have a neighbor who was a huge NASCAR fan. He was also a retired mortgage broker (50 years) and had a lot of political connections. Nice guy.
2012-09-24 04:39:26 PM
1 votes:
It couldn't be because NASCAR fans are more likely to have a friend or family member in the military (or a veteran), could it?

Obama has done quite a few nice things for veterans lately.
2012-09-24 04:37:08 PM
1 votes:

MFAWG: rudemix: I'm sure some idiot will start an unfounded rumor to try and fix this. "Obama wants to ban our racing cars cuz pollution and the viroment"

That went around last time, didn't work.


It's NASCAR. Expect it to go around a couple hundred more times.
2012-09-24 04:17:36 PM
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: StoneColdAtheist: According to this article from Nascar, the average attendee travels 250 miles to watch the race. That's not 700 miles, granted, but it's a lot further than 50 miles.

Nascar are big bidness... ;^)

See, that's some data. I now admit that I stand corrected.


Hey, hey...not to worry. Anyway, the article reminded me of a csb...

Some years ago I flew into Frankfurt one fall Sunday evening their time, and the AF bussed us to a little town a bit south of the airport. After checking in I asked the Frau if there was anyplace we could get a hot meal, and she told me of a place a few blocks away. After changing clothes we headed over that way, only to almost turn back when we noticed that the building was dark and silent. Just as we were about to leave the door opened as someone left, and we could see light and hear a bit of noise coming from the interior, so in we went.

Imagine our surprise to walk down the hallway into a largish sports bar with a huge (like 12' diameter) projection screen on one wall showing an NFL game, and that afternoon's NASCAR race showing on an opposite and identical screen. Both with the volume turned well up. There must have been most of a hundred German fans in there, drinking and eating and cheering on their favorites.

Needless to say, we had a good time. /csb
2012-09-24 03:15:21 PM
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: StoneColdAtheist: When I was stationed in Altus, Oklahoma, some of my neighbors were part of a big crown of local Nascar fans that caravaned the 700 miles to Talladega, Alabama twice a year for the races. They were die-hard.

So a statistically small group of people (out of ~100,000, what percentage you think travels more than 50 miles?) making the trek extrapolates to "people who live over an hour away are just as likely (or more likely) to go as people who live within an hour"?

// "not likely to" is a phrase I used for just that reason
// your anecdote is still valid, I guess, but proof of nothing
// but I admit I know next to nothing about NASCAR and its many fans


According to this article from Nascar, the average attendee travels 250 miles to watch the race. That's not 700 miles, granted, but it's a lot further than 50 miles.

Nascar are big bidness... ;^)
2012-09-24 02:50:43 PM
1 votes:

hinten: The next group of people that should consider getting insulted by Romney in a daily basis are all government employees.
And I hear there are quite a few of them.


The Malkins and the Becks of the world have said that tey would like to make it illegal for government employees to vote.

I fully expect to hear this drum beat start up again in December if Obama wins.
2012-09-24 02:48:28 PM
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: From TFA, it looks like someone found the difference between a random sample (assuming the Zogby poll was actually random) and a self-selected sample (those who attend NASCAR events).

If you don't live within an hour of a NASCAR track, you're not likely to get to a race (and even if you do live close, maybe one or two a year?). NASCAR fans live all over the country (we assume). So the next step to determining how good NASCAR fans' support is at predicting general support of Obama would be overlaying the nationwide maps of Obama/NASCAR supporters.

Statistics is hard, brah. Let's just dash off a writeup comparing apples to oranges instead and go get a beer.


It is significant when compared to the self-selected sample from previous years. NASCAR fans have traditionally been overwhelmingly republican.
2012-09-24 02:45:44 PM
1 votes:

StoneColdAtheist: wademh: Dr Dreidel:
... If you don't live within an hour of a NASCAR track, you're not likely to get to a race ....

You know nothing about NASCAR fans.

Yeah, I laughed at that, too. When I was stationed in Altus, Oklahoma, some of my neighbors were part of a big crown of local Nascar fans that caravaned the 700 miles to Talladega, Alabama twice a year for the races. They were die-hard.

PS - Firefox wants to correct Talladega to "Gallbladder"... ;)


So a statistically small group of people (out of ~100,000, what percentage you think travels more than 50 miles?) making the trek extrapolates to "people who live over an hour away are just as likely (or more likely) to go as people who live within an hour"?

// "not likely to" is a phrase I used for just that reason
// your anecdote is still valid, I guess, but proof of nothing
// but I admit I know next to nothing about NASCAR and its many fans
2012-09-24 02:26:32 PM
1 votes:

Guntram Shatterhand: That Class Warfare thing has legs. Just saying.


Mainly because it's true. I don't know about the rest of you but I pay a lot more that 14% in income tax. Too bad I'm not a millionaire. Then I could pay someone to get me out of my taxes too.
2012-09-24 02:23:25 PM
1 votes:

Leeds: anwserman: Donna Noble approves.

But in the very end, does she really?

It granted her a far more exciting life, yes. But one that was erased...


I know. Of all of the companions (so far), her storyline is the most tragic. She's the one I like the most - plus Wilf, who doesn't like that old man?
2012-09-24 02:20:52 PM
1 votes:
The next group of people that should consider getting insulted by Romney in a daily basis are all government employees.
And I hear there are quite a few of them.
2012-09-24 02:19:30 PM
1 votes:
That Class Warfare thing has legs. Just saying.
2012-09-24 02:18:03 PM
1 votes:

downstairs: As a NASCAR fan (and someone who would most likely vote for Obama without a viable 3rd party)... I'm rather surprised.  Many fans of NASCAR are not uneducated hicks from the south... but its still a large portion of the fanbase unfortunately (judging by how many confederate flags I see during tailgating.)


It's kind of ironic, NASCAR events in Northern California are held at Sear's Point raceway which is SMACK DAB in the middle of wine country surrounded by some of the most posh snobs on the planet. Now THERE'S a demographic cross-over I'd love to see.

/Cousin Merl, would you like some brie to go with your 151 disguised as a Coke bottle?
2012-09-24 02:17:04 PM
1 votes:
From TFA, it looks like someone found the difference between a random sample (assuming the Zogby poll was actually random) and a self-selected sample (those who attend NASCAR events).

If you don't live within an hour of a NASCAR track, you're not likely to get to a race (and even if you do live close, maybe one or two a year?). NASCAR fans live all over the country (we assume). So the next step to determining how good NASCAR fans' support is at predicting general support of Obama would be overlaying the nationwide maps of Obama/NASCAR supporters.

Statistics is hard, brah. Let's just dash off a writeup comparing apples to oranges instead and go get a beer.
2012-09-24 02:15:43 PM
1 votes:
Oh god. The delusion among Republicans that are forced to carry water for Romney is scary.
2012-09-24 02:15:20 PM
1 votes:
47%, what?
2012-09-24 02:14:05 PM
1 votes:
FTFA: "Obama leads Romney 54 to 40 percent among military families."

You know how I know the GOP is doomed?
2012-09-24 02:11:27 PM
1 votes:
Not all rednecks are as Obama hating as you might be led to believe by the extremely vocal nature of the more racist elements of that crowd. At the end of the day, redneck culture is pretty relaxed, and many really do just want someone who they don't feel like will screw them over, race be damned.
2012-09-24 02:11:20 PM
1 votes:
[Also read: Romney says his campaign doesn't need a 'turnaround']

Looks like he's going to hit a wall SAFER barrier.
2012-09-24 02:11:03 PM
1 votes:
carlsimmonslive.files.wordpress.com
2012-09-24 02:06:12 PM
1 votes:
The crowd initially booed Mr. Romney, who occasionally struck a discordant note, as when he approached a group of fans wearing plastic ponchos. "I like those fancy raincoats you bought," he said. "Really sprung for the big bucks."

If Romney weren't Mormon he would greet people with "hey, f*cko".
2012-09-24 02:04:59 PM
1 votes:
Soooo....NASCAR fans are a new demographic for judging how an election will sway? Jeebus, this is the end, isn't it.
2012-09-24 01:58:56 PM
1 votes:
Donna Noble approves.
2012-09-24 01:31:16 PM
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: It's almost like the only thing Southerns hate more than a minority in power is a rich white guy Yankee.


FTY
2012-09-24 01:18:12 PM
1 votes:
It's almost like the only thing Southerns hate more than a minority in power is a rich white guy.
2012-09-24 01:16:30 PM
1 votes:
Nothing NASCAR fans enjoy more than a spectacular wreck.
2012-09-24 12:39:17 PM
1 votes:
As a NASCAR fan (and someone who would most likely vote for Obama without a viable 3rd party)... I'm rather surprised.  Many fans of NASCAR are not uneducated hicks from the south... but its still a large portion of the fanbase unfortunately (judging by how many confederate flags I see during tailgating.)
 
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