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(Huffington Post)   Colorado may well be the first state to legalize marijuana. Like, as in, you can grow your own pot plants and give it to your friends kind of legalize. Sucks to be you, California   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 370
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2012-09-24 11:49:37 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Not comparable. There were ZERO dispensaries in Colorado when Bush was POTUS. There are hundreds now. The reason you never heard about raids under Bush is because there were no dispensaries to raid.

And after Obama's "war on weed" there are still hundreds of dispensaries and 100,000+ MMJ patients. This is a bogus 'controversy'.


I'm not talking about Colorado. I'm talking about the entire country. There have been more raids under Obama's administration throughout the entire country. He basically helped ramp up the drug war.
 
2012-09-24 11:51:05 PM

BSABSVR: jaylectricity: I was just thinking if the DEA was people from the area it would be easy for the populace to brow beat their local DEA agents.

If the DEA is like other federal law enforcement, they typically assign you to an area where you aren't known. When I interviewed with the FBI, they told me that it wasn't impossible that I would eventually be assigned to my home town, but it was unlikely.


So you're in the law enforcement business?
 
2012-09-24 11:58:46 PM

GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: ok, I respect that. I've done it myself. But Obama is clearly better on the MJ issue than Mormon Republican. Com'n...

No argument that between those 2 evils, Obama sucks less than Romney on pot views. I will not say one is better than the other because they both suck on the issue and both avoid addressing it like the plague.

*sigh* I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I would have no right or access to MJ if it wasn't for Obama. Romney is a Mormon, a religion that bans coffee. My personal belief is that if Romney wins, we will see a violent and bloody crackdown by the "small government" Republican president. But only Republican Jesus knows for sure what will happen to my rights.

What exactly has Obama done to give you right or access to MJ? States have been doing things to allow that access but what do you feel Obama has done specifically to assist them?


Again, we had MMJ in Colorado prior to Obama, but it didn't matter because DEA. It was not an established 'right' and there was no such thing as an MMJ business. After Obama was elected, he told the DEA to back off and allow states to deal with it themselves. THEN!!!! Dispensaries took off and growers started growing. There was no MMJ in Colorado prior to that, except on an extremely limited scale, in spite of the state law.

I suppose you could make the assertion that now that it is 'established', it is safe. Not buying that at all. I think the religiously motivationed Republicans would want to hammer Colorado over it, especially to "pay us back" if we don't vote Romney.  Maybe I'm too cynical
 
2012-09-25 12:01:53 AM

Hale-Bopp: Ow! That was my feelings!: Not comparable. There were ZERO dispensaries in Colorado when Bush was POTUS. There are hundreds now. The reason you never heard about raids under Bush is because there were no dispensaries to raid.

And after Obama's "war on weed" there are still hundreds of dispensaries and 100,000+ MMJ patients. This is a bogus 'controversy'.

I'm not talking about Colorado. I'm talking about the entire country. There have been more raids under Obama's administration throughout the entire country. He basically helped ramp up the drug war.


ok, I agree. I'm very much against the entire, bullshiat 'war on drugs'. But, when it comes to mj, in Colorado, he has been better than any Prez in my lifetime. It is not even close.
 
2012-09-25 12:02:01 AM

jaylectricity: So you're in the law enforcement business?


Nope. 18 years ago I had a freshly minted BA in a foreign language and a part time job making $8 an hour. I saw that the FBI at the time wanted people with foreign language, accounting, or law degrees and I figured I would see if we were a fit.

We were not.
 
2012-09-25 12:04:58 AM

BSABSVR: jaylectricity: So you're in the law enforcement business?

Nope. 18 years ago I had a freshly minted BA in a foreign language and a part time job making $8 an hour. I saw that the FBI at the time wanted people with foreign language, accounting, or law degrees and I figured I would see if we were a fit.

We were not.


Heh, OK...I better change your color.
 
2012-09-25 12:05:05 AM

Ow! That was my feelings!: GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: ok, I respect that. I've done it myself. But Obama is clearly better on the MJ issue than Mormon Republican. Com'n...

No argument that between those 2 evils, Obama sucks less than Romney on pot views. I will not say one is better than the other because they both suck on the issue and both avoid addressing it like the plague.

*sigh* I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I would have no right or access to MJ if it wasn't for Obama. Romney is a Mormon, a religion that bans coffee. My personal belief is that if Romney wins, we will see a violent and bloody crackdown by the "small government" Republican president. But only Republican Jesus knows for sure what will happen to my rights.

What exactly has Obama done to give you right or access to MJ? States have been doing things to allow that access but what do you feel Obama has done specifically to assist them?

Again, we had MMJ in Colorado prior to Obama, but it didn't matter because DEA. It was not an established 'right' and there was no such thing as an MMJ business. After Obama was elected, he told the DEA to back off and allow states to deal with it themselves. THEN!!!! Dispensaries took off and growers started growing. There was no MMJ in Colorado prior to that, except on an extremely limited scale, in spite of the state law.

I suppose you could make the assertion that now that it is 'established', it is safe. Not buying that at all. I think the religiously motivationed motivated Republicans would want to hammer Colorado over it, especially to "pay us back" if we don't vote Romney.  Maybe I'm too cynical


ok, I've had enough. Time for me to head home and........smoke one. I feel like I've been in a thread with the NRA and GOA, geezus. Enjoy your evening folks, I'm out.
 
2012-09-25 12:07:40 AM
hahaha, I've been smoking this whole time, Ow! Go home and enjoy one.

/my shiat is schwag though :(
 
2012-09-25 12:14:25 AM

Oznog: If Amendment 64 passes, it will become almost immediately legal under Colorado law for adults to possess, grow, consume and give away up to an ounce of marijuana.

Wait, how do you GROW AN OUNCE of marijuana?? I'm picturing a little dwarf-bonsai version of a cannabis plant... your plant could be illegally large if allowed to grow full-size.



This is a beautiful thing about the cannabis laws, there is no authority running around and checking on your plants. If you are staying within your plant limit and arent drawing unwanted attention, youll be able to grow more weed than you can smoke, forever. I am allowed 6 mature plants by law, and 8 ounces dry. But, Ill surpass 8 ounces with just 2 plants, easily. What about all that weight on the other 4 plants? Just gotta stay within your plant limit.
 
2012-09-25 12:40:20 AM
Just offered on a lake-side house there. ;) 450k. This is going to be awesome.
 
2012-09-25 01:11:27 AM
If the DEA tries to roll-over Colorado after the election ... it won't roll over easily. Too many people here love their medical m.j.
 
2012-09-25 01:15:22 AM

Three-Fifty: UGH. NO. Not if I have anything to say about it. I am voting against this.

Until they can make a completely odorless and/or smokeless version of it, I will never vote to make it legal. Regular ciggies are stinky enough. I don't need the people living under my condo to smoke it MORE so my home can smell of it 24/7.


OK. We'll keep it illegal because you don't like the smell. Go fark yourself.
 
2012-09-25 08:19:54 AM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: I could understand this. You'd have to be high to live in Colorado.

Yep, it's horrible here...
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The horror.....
 
2012-09-25 09:05:54 AM

Ow! That was my feelings!: GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: ok, I respect that. I've done it myself. But Obama is clearly better on the MJ issue than Mormon Republican. Com'n...

No argument that between those 2 evils, Obama sucks less than Romney on pot views. I will not say one is better than the other because they both suck on the issue and both avoid addressing it like the plague.

*sigh* I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I would have no right or access to MJ if it wasn't for Obama. Romney is a Mormon, a religion that bans coffee. My personal belief is that if Romney wins, we will see a violent and bloody crackdown by the "small government" Republican president. But only Republican Jesus knows for sure what will happen to my rights.

What exactly has Obama done to give you right or access to MJ? States have been doing things to allow that access but what do you feel Obama has done specifically to assist them?

Again, we had MMJ in Colorado prior to Obama, but it didn't matter because DEA. It was not an established 'right' and there was no such thing as an MMJ business. After Obama was elected, he told the DEA to back off and allow states to deal with it themselves. THEN!!!! Dispensaries took off and growers started growing. There was no MMJ in Colorado prior to that, except on an extremely limited scale, in spite of the state law.

I suppose you could make the assertion that now that it is 'established', it is safe. Not buying that at all. I think the religiously motivationed Republicans would want to hammer Colorado over it, especially to "pay us back" if we don't vote Romney.  Maybe I'm too cynical


I don't agree that Obama has actually done anything to help MMJ. You imply he kept the DEA from busting CO dispensaries, why didn't he do the same for CA. Why won't he answer questions about his stance on it when asked? Why doesn't he - as a leader - speak the truth about MJ and push harder for states' rights on this instead of droning on with the old "federal law blah blah blah" crap?

Meh, I've taken myself out of politics more and more lately. They can go ahead and do what they need to to. They never asked for my permission before, they sure aren't going to start now. It's just too much work caring about most of it anymore. I'd rather be happy than pissed all the time about it.  Good luck.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-09-25 09:37:32 AM
My impression is Obama doesn't dislike marijuana as much as Romney, but he sees no political advantage to be gained. The issue isn't partisan enough. Turn legalization into a liberal cause and he'll issue an executive order like he did to cut enforcement of illegal immigration law.
 
2012-09-25 10:27:39 AM

nmemkha: Archfeld: There is still the issue of driving under the influence of any substance which inhibits your ability to do so, illegal, legal, perscription or otherwise, and at the current time there IS NO MEDICAL way to test such.

So? That's what a field sobriety test is for. Time and time again grasping ninnys bring up this issue and time and time again they get shot down by logic.


Easy way to test if the driver is high, have the cop giggle a little bit, see if the driver starts laughing with, then say "man, are you high or what?"
 
2012-09-25 01:26:20 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: The Southern Dandy: It'll probably pass in Colorado because they don't have all the growers pumping money into the campaign against it like we did with Prop 19 here in California.

Although, it could be that California growers are pumping money into Colorado the same way the Mormon church pumped money into California for Prop 8.

While I agree that many 'old school' growers/suppliers were opposed to Cali Prop 19, they are not why it lost. It lost because besides the simple act of legalization, Prop 19 also decided to go after a company's ability to screen and not hire or fire MJ consumers. It would have setup an expensive and bureaucratic system of arbitration. That lead to massive opposition from big money corporations pouring millions into its defeat. Prop 19 was not a simple, yes or no on MJ legalization, it was basically a "union" bill to get weed legal. They farked it up.



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2012-09-25 04:54:43 PM

ZAZ: Turn legalization into a liberal cause


Uh, hasn't it been one since the 60s?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-09-25 06:01:50 PM
TheJoe03

Legalization is probably supported more by liberals, but it isn't treated as a partisan issue.
 
2012-09-25 07:18:57 PM

ZAZ: but it isn't treated as a partisan issue.


Still a liberal cause.
 
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