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(Huffington Post)   Colorado may well be the first state to legalize marijuana. Like, as in, you can grow your own pot plants and give it to your friends kind of legalize. Sucks to be you, California   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 369
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2012-09-24 10:19:19 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: BSABSVR: Hollie Maea: If I were moderating a debate, I would ask Romney if, when he said that Marijuana is a state issue, he was suggesting that if this measure passes he would instruct the DEA to honor the state law.

But I'm not moderating a debate.

A CO news reporter asked Romney that. His response was "Don't you have any real issues to ask me about?"

So, once again, Romney refuses to answer a policy question. Nice candidate you got there, Republicans. Since his religion forbides something as basic as coffee, I'm guessing Coloradans should get used to seeing this in their neighborhoods... 
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Is there anything to suggest that Obama won't try to do the same? So far, he's been very unreasonable on this issue. I don't care for Romney one bit, but Obama isn't exactly friendly either. If I was to vote on this one issue, I would go third party without hesitation.
 
2012-09-24 10:24:16 PM  

Hale-Bopp: Is there anything to suggest that Obama won't try to do the same? So far, he's been very unreasonable on this issue. I don't care for Romney one bit, but Obama isn't exactly friendly either. If I was to vote on this one issue, I would go third party without hesitation.


There's minimal. However your 3rd party candidate of choice is not going to win, and anyone who is going to vote "Mormon guy who wants to ban porn" because they think Obama has been too tough on MMJ is deluded.
 
2012-09-24 10:24:43 PM  

TheJoe03: Ow! That was my feelings!: ??? yes, you are correct. Please go back and read what else I wrote and....

You asked for a link between Obama and federal raids in CA and then started talking about Colorado and how it's going over there and the you asked if CA was different, and the answer to that is yes.


Ah, no. I asked, or meant to ask for a LINK. A news link. A link to a news article that proved your point that Cali was getting a boot to the neck on MJ.
 
2012-09-24 10:25:42 PM  
This is bad news, for Obama. Sorta. You see, DEA is just another 3-letter word, just like INS. Don't worry, we'll just label them "undocumented medications" so they don't sound so evil and scary.
 
2012-09-24 10:27:13 PM  

BSABSVR: anyone who is going to vote "Mormon guy who wants to ban porn" because they think Obama has been too tough on MMJ is deluded.


No one is saying that but I think it is very important for liberals and libertarians to go after Obama and the Democratic Party on this issue. Medical marijuana is more popular among the electorate than gay marriage and legal marijuana isn't far behind in support compared to gay marriage. I'm hoping the Democrats can do the same on the weed issue because liberals and moderates have no issue with weed.
 
2012-09-24 10:32:42 PM  

ski9600: Yep, and it's kinda funny that the person who reported them was a legal MMJ producer


No shiat, where'd you see that?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-09-24 10:32:54 PM  
People who worry about big pharma's reaction to this are just being naive. Big Pharma doesn't really care.

If medical marijuana did half of what it was claimed to do, Big Pharma would care.
 
2012-09-24 10:33:46 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: A link to a news article that proved your point that Cali was getting a boot to the neck on MJ.


Link
 
2012-09-24 10:34:32 PM  

Hale-Bopp: Ow! That was my feelings!: BSABSVR: Hollie Maea: If I were moderating a debate, I would ask Romney if, when he said that Marijuana is a state issue, he was suggesting that if this measure passes he would instruct the DEA to honor the state law.

But I'm not moderating a debate.

A CO news reporter asked Romney that. His response was "Don't you have any real issues to ask me about?"

So, once again, Romney refuses to answer a policy question. Nice candidate you got there, Republicans. Since his religion forbides something as basic as coffee, I'm guessing Coloradans should get used to seeing this in their neighborhoods... 
[mikeely.files.wordpress.com image 438x276]

Is there anything to suggest that Obama won't try to do the same? So far, he's been very unreasonable on this issue. I don't care for Romney one bit, but Obama isn't exactly friendly either. If I was to vote on this one issue, I would go third party without hesitation.


Yes. Today, yesterday, most of the last 4 years tells me he is way better on the issue. How is he being unreasonable on the issue? The reason we have as much freedom to partake of the MJ is because of Obama. When Bush was president, MMJ had passed in Colorado, but it was basically non-existent right because the DEA would come in and fark anybody up who tried to set up shop. After Obama was elected, the DEA backed off and went "states rights" on it.

POOF! Hundreds of dispenseries opened, thousands of growers set up shop, legal weed became a REALITY. Has the DEA tightened up since? Sure, somewhat, but it has been minor in Colorado, anyway.

I would have NO rights to MMJ if McCain won in 2008 and I fear we will be dragged, violently, back to the prohibitionist dark ages if a farking Mormon is made POTUS.
 
2012-09-24 10:43:09 PM  

TheJoe03: Ow! That was my feelings!: A link to a news article that proved your point that Cali was getting a boot to the neck on MJ.

Link


So what. No individual growers have been targeted. They are going after COMMERCIAL growers and DISPENSERIES. How can you not see the difference from a mom-and-pop operation and the so-called "wal-mart" of weed???

Don't be a dick to your neighbors and flaunt it in the face of the DEA and you are fine. Unless America votes in a Mormon, then we're all screwed.
 
2012-09-24 10:45:00 PM  

tricycleracer: Question for the medical card holders out there: Can a company refuse to hire you for a positive drug test even if you have a medical card?


Yes.
 
2012-09-24 10:45:58 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: BSABSVR: Hollie Maea: If I were moderating a debate, I would ask Romney if, when he said that Marijuana is a state issue, he was suggesting that if this measure passes he would instruct the DEA to honor the state law.

But I'm not moderating a debate.

A CO news reporter asked Romney that. His response was "Don't you have any real issues to ask me about?"

So, once again, Romney refuses to answer a policy question. Nice candidate you got there, Republicans. Since his religion forbides something as basic as coffee, I'm guessing Coloradans should get used to seeing this in their neighborhoods... 
[mikeely.files.wordpress.com image 438x276]


It's a good thing Obama would never do something like that.

/yes both sides are bad
 
2012-09-24 10:49:14 PM  

NameDot: scottydoesntknow: Three-Fifty: Until they can make a completely odorless and/or smokeless version of it, I will never vote to make it legal.

Yea, they do already. Brownies, cookies, candies, butter, etc. Hell you can cook a 5-course meal using it. Use some of the canna-butter to make a béarnaise sauce for your steak, it's like eating a cut from heaven.

vaporizer


Cheeba chews, mang.
 
2012-09-24 10:50:42 PM  

GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: BSABSVR: Hollie Maea: If I were moderating a debate, I would ask Romney if, when he said that Marijuana is a state issue, he was suggesting that if this measure passes he would instruct the DEA to honor the state law.

But I'm not moderating a debate.

A CO news reporter asked Romney that. His response was "Don't you have any real issues to ask me about?"

So, once again, Romney refuses to answer a policy question. Nice candidate you got there, Republicans. Since his religion forbides something as basic as coffee, I'm guessing Coloradans should get used to seeing this in their neighborhoods... 
[mikeely.files.wordpress.com image 438x276]

It's a good thing Obama would never do something like that.

/yes both sides are bad


One side is OBVIOUSLY better...Link
 
2012-09-24 10:53:26 PM  
Anybody who thinks the Republican party is more in favor of legalizing cannabis needs to watch this video:

Link


Romney says he will NEVER legalize cannabis if he gets elected.

//Likes the term 'cannabis' over 'marijuana' or 'pot' which both have negative connotations to them.
 
2012-09-24 10:55:04 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Don't be a dick to your neighbors and flaunt it in the face of the DEA and you are fine.


How did Harborside do that?
 
2012-09-24 10:55:06 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: BSABSVR: Hollie Maea: If I were moderating a debate, I would ask Romney if, when he said that Marijuana is a state issue, he was suggesting that if this measure passes he would instruct the DEA to honor the state law.

But I'm not moderating a debate.

A CO news reporter asked Romney that. His response was "Don't you have any real issues to ask me about?"

So, once again, Romney refuses to answer a policy question. Nice candidate you got there, Republicans. Since his religion forbides something as basic as coffee, I'm guessing Coloradans should get used to seeing this in their neighborhoods... 
[mikeely.files.wordpress.com image 438x276]

It's a good thing Obama would never do something like that.

/yes both sides are bad

One side is OBVIOUSLY better...Link


And the side that those 2 sides won't let play is obviously even better in this aspect. 

/so vote republican
//not really
 
2012-09-24 10:56:19 PM  

TheJoe03: Medical marijuana is more popular among the electorate than gay marriage and legal marijuana isn't far behind in support compared to gay marriage. I'm hoping the Democrats can do the same on the weed issue because liberals and moderates have no issue with weed.


Fewer and fewer conservatives are having issues with weed. It's going to take a few states decriminalizing before there can be a real conversationa about thos on the federal level. Until then it's going to sound like (and frequently be led by) Your 80 year old grandfather explaining to your 84 year old great uncle how devil weed and jazz are corrupting.
 
2012-09-24 10:56:40 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: DISPENSERIES.


That seems like quite a big deal, but whatever you love Obama to a fault and I'm sure you would justify his actions no matter what.
 
2012-09-24 10:58:19 PM  

GanjSmokr: And the side that those 2 sides won't let play is obviously even better in this aspect.


Gary johnson has exactly zero chance to be president. His views on drug policy are immaterial.
 
2012-09-24 11:01:30 PM  

TheJoe03: Ow! That was my feelings!: Don't be a dick to your neighbors and flaunt it in the face of the DEA and you are fine.

How did Harborside do that?


"Oakland's Harborside Health Center, known as the "nation's largest pot shop," has been targeted for closure simply because it's too big.

Harborside brings in some $20 million each year and employs more than 100 workers. Since Oakland imposes a five percent business tax on cannabis, its shuttering would not only cost the city dozens of jobs, but more than $1 million in potential revenues." 

I've heard to referred to as the "Wal-Mart of Weed".
 
2012-09-24 11:02:31 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: I've heard to referred to as the "Wal-Mart of Weed".


They have done nothing wrong, they are honestly the most legit and professional club in California.
 
2012-09-24 11:03:34 PM  
But good thing to see a Democrat stick up for the DEA.
 
2012-09-24 11:03:41 PM  

BSABSVR: GanjSmokr: And the side that those 2 sides won't let play is obviously even better in this aspect.

Gary johnson has exactly zero chance to be president. His views on drug policy are immaterial.


While I agree he has zero chance to win, I disagree that his views are immaterial but it's your right to dismiss him.
 
2012-09-24 11:05:33 PM  

TheMysticS: Yeah, except in this case it's not about buying and selling human beings.

Derp.


It could be about anything. Abortion. Gay marriage. Or, to pick a headline from the news, public schools. Liberals were all about federal standards until they realized that those standards might run headlong into the state teacher's union goals, and then all of a sudden it's the big bad federal government with their jackboots stomping on the rights of citizens.

Liberals are so cute when you come to realize that maybe, just maybe, conservatives had a point about an overbearing federal government. Unfortunately, since you helped build the monstrosity, you have no credibility when it comes to dismantling it.
 
2012-09-24 11:09:23 PM  

GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: BSABSVR: Hollie Maea: If I were moderating a debate, I would ask Romney if, when he said that Marijuana is a state issue, he was suggesting that if this measure passes he would instruct the DEA to honor the state law.

But I'm not moderating a debate.

A CO news reporter asked Romney that. His response was "Don't you have any real issues to ask me about?"

So, once again, Romney refuses to answer a policy question. Nice candidate you got there, Republicans. Since his religion forbides something as basic as coffee, I'm guessing Coloradans should get used to seeing this in their neighborhoods... 
[mikeely.files.wordpress.com image 438x276]

It's a good thing Obama would never do something like that.

/yes both sides are bad

One side is OBVIOUSLY better...Link

And the side that those 2 sides won't let play is obviously even better in this aspect. 

/so vote republican
//not really


Hey, like a lot of Coloradans, I have a big streak of libertarianism in my beliefs and if my only consideration was voting my conscience he might very well get my vote. But, living in 2012 America and living in a swing state, I'm forced to parse my vote and I choose to vote against the Mormon corporatist and for the guy I don't care for much, but who also happens to be OBVIOUSLY better when it comes to MJ rights.

Can you image what a douchebag Romney would be to Colorado if he wins, loses Colorado and Amendment 64 passes?
 
2012-09-24 11:10:01 PM  

Lsherm: maybe, conservatives had a point about an overbearing federal government.


The same federal govt that always grows larger and more overbearing when the GOP is in power?
 
2012-09-24 11:14:11 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Hale-Bopp: Ow! That was my feelings!: BSABSVR: Hollie Maea: If I were moderating a debate, I would ask Romney if, when he said that Marijuana is a state issue, he was suggesting that if this measure passes he would instruct the DEA to honor the state law.

But I'm not moderating a debate.

A CO news reporter asked Romney that. His response was "Don't you have any real issues to ask me about?"

So, once again, Romney refuses to answer a policy question. Nice candidate you got there, Republicans. Since his religion forbides something as basic as coffee, I'm guessing Coloradans should get used to seeing this in their neighborhoods... 
[mikeely.files.wordpress.com image 438x276]

Is there anything to suggest that Obama won't try to do the same? So far, he's been very unreasonable on this issue. I don't care for Romney one bit, but Obama isn't exactly friendly either. If I was to vote on this one issue, I would go third party without hesitation.

Yes. Today, yesterday, most of the last 4 years tells me he is way better on the issue. How is he being unreasonable on the issue? The reason we have as much freedom to partake of the MJ is because of Obama. When Bush was president, MMJ had passed in Colorado, but it was basically non-existent right because the DEA would come in and fark anybody up who tried to set up shop. After Obama was elected, the DEA backed off and went "states rights" on it.

POOF! Hundreds of dispenseries opened, thousands of growers set up shop, legal weed became a REALITY. Has the DEA tightened up since? Sure, somewhat, but it has been minor in Colorado, anyway.

I would have NO rights to MMJ if McCain won in 2008 and I fear we will be dragged, violently, back to the prohibitionist dark ages if a farking Mormon is made POTUS.


My understanding is that there have been far more marijuana related raids under Obama than there ever was during both of Bush's terms. What you're saying doesn't line up with what I've been reading in the news. Am I missing something?
 
2012-09-24 11:14:46 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: BSABSVR: Hollie Maea: If I were moderating a debate, I would ask Romney if, when he said that Marijuana is a state issue, he was suggesting that if this measure passes he would instruct the DEA to honor the state law.

But I'm not moderating a debate.

A CO news reporter asked Romney that. His response was "Don't you have any real issues to ask me about?"

So, once again, Romney refuses to answer a policy question. Nice candidate you got there, Republicans. Since his religion forbides something as basic as coffee, I'm guessing Coloradans should get used to seeing this in their neighborhoods... 
[mikeely.files.wordpress.com image 438x276]

It's a good thing Obama would never do something like that.

/yes both sides are bad

One side is OBVIOUSLY better...Link

And the side that those 2 sides won't let play is obviously even better in this aspect. 

/so vote republican
//not really

Hey, like a lot of Coloradans, I have a big streak of libertarianism in my beliefs and if my only consideration was voting my conscience he might very well get my vote. But, living in 2012 America and living in a swing state, I'm forced to parse my vote and I choose to vote against the Mormon corporatist and for the guy I don't care for much, but who also happens to be OBVIOUSLY better when it comes to MJ rights.

Can you image what a douchebag Romney would be to Colorado if he wins, loses Colorado and Amendment 64 passes?


"Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil." - Jerry Garcia

This time around, I have decided not to choose between what I consider to be two evils.
 
2012-09-24 11:15:09 PM  

TheJoe03: Ow! That was my feelings!: I've heard to referred to as the "Wal-Mart of Weed".

They have done nothing wrong, they are honestly the most legit and professional club in California.


ok, I don't know them personally and that sucks if you are correct. BUT, we are not seeing heavyhanded enforcement in Colorado.

WE ARE NOT SEEING HEAVYHANDED ENFORCEMENT IN COLORADO!!! 

I can only make decisions on my own personal experience. That experience tells me Obama is WAY better than generic Republican and certainly better than Mormon Republican.
 
2012-09-24 11:18:58 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: That experience tells me Obama is WAY better than generic Republican and certainly better than Mormon Republican.


Probably but I don't think it makes sense to defend Obama on this, we shouldn't be silent about it just because he's generally on our "side". The only reason the Democrats are conservative on this issue is because no one is pressuring them into doing what their base wants. The Dems don't get a pass on this.
 
2012-09-24 11:19:26 PM  

Hale-Bopp: My understanding is that there have been far more marijuana related raids under Obama than there ever was during both of Bush's terms. What you're saying doesn't line up with what I've been reading in the news. Am I missing something?


There were no dispensaries under Bush. You are trying to draw conclusions from a sample size of 1.
 
2012-09-24 11:19:36 PM  
Who works for the DEA anyway? I mean, is there an office in Boston where I can apply for the job? Or do all these people come from a prick factory in southern Indiana?
 
2012-09-24 11:19:46 PM  

Hale-Bopp: Ow! That was my feelings!: Hale-Bopp: Ow! That was my feelings!: BSABSVR: Hollie Maea: If I were moderating a debate, I would ask Romney if, when he said that Marijuana is a state issue, he was suggesting that if this measure passes he would instruct the DEA to honor the state law.

But I'm not moderating a debate.

A CO news reporter asked Romney that. His response was "Don't you have any real issues to ask me about?"

So, once again, Romney refuses to answer a policy question. Nice candidate you got there, Republicans. Since his religion forbides something as basic as coffee, I'm guessing Coloradans should get used to seeing this in their neighborhoods... 
[mikeely.files.wordpress.com image 438x276]

Is there anything to suggest that Obama won't try to do the same? So far, he's been very unreasonable on this issue. I don't care for Romney one bit, but Obama isn't exactly friendly either. If I was to vote on this one issue, I would go third party without hesitation.

Yes. Today, yesterday, most of the last 4 years tells me he is way better on the issue. How is he being unreasonable on the issue? The reason we have as much freedom to partake of the MJ is because of Obama. When Bush was president, MMJ had passed in Colorado, but it was basically non-existent right because the DEA would come in and fark anybody up who tried to set up shop. After Obama was elected, the DEA backed off and went "states rights" on it.

POOF! Hundreds of dispenseries opened, thousands of growers set up shop, legal weed became a REALITY. Has the DEA tightened up since? Sure, somewhat, but it has been minor in Colorado, anyway.

I would have NO rights to MMJ if McCain won in 2008 and I fear we will be dragged, violently, back to the prohibitionist dark ages if a farking Mormon is made POTUS.

My understanding is that there have been far more marijuana related raids under Obama than there ever was during both of Bush's terms. What you're saying doesn't line up with what I've been re ...


Not comparable. There were ZERO dispensaries in Colorado when Bush was POTUS. There are hundreds now. The reason you never heard about raids under Bush is because there were no dispensaries to raid.

And after Obama's "war on weed" there are still hundreds of dispensaries and 100,000+ MMJ patients. This is a bogus 'controversy'.
 
2012-09-24 11:20:37 PM  

TheJoe03: The same federal govt that always grows larger and more overbearing when the GOP either party is in power?


Fixed it for you.
 
2012-09-24 11:21:40 PM  

TheJoe03: Ow! That was my feelings!: That experience tells me Obama is WAY better than generic Republican and certainly better than Mormon Republican.

Probably but I don't think it makes sense to defend Obama on this, we shouldn't be silent about it just because he's generally on our "side". The only reason the Democrats are conservative on this issue is because no one is pressuring them into doing what their base wants. The Dems don't get a pass on this.


DUDE!!!! READ THIS LINK....Link
 
2012-09-24 11:23:19 PM  

Lsherm: Fixed it for you.


So your original argument is irrelevant than. Plenty of liberals AND conservatives with libertarian views and plenty on both sides with authoritarian views.
 
2012-09-24 11:23:20 PM  
This thread sure got political quick. ObRomney sure as hell isnt going to do anything good.

st1cky: Anybody who thinks the Republican party is more in favor of legalizing cannabis needs to watch this video




If you read the news you know how Republicans feel about cannabis. Drugs, gay marriage, abortion, etc. The Republican party seems a bit too gung ho about telling adults what they can and cant do with their lives, as per a certain book of fairy tales.
 
2012-09-24 11:24:20 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: DUDE!!!! READ THIS LINK....Link


Dude, that's hella cool! Progress!
 
2012-09-24 11:24:28 PM  
huh, that got garbled up a bit...
 
2012-09-24 11:24:33 PM  

GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: BSABSVR: Hollie Maea: If I were moderating a debate, I would ask Romney if, when he said that Marijuana is a state issue, he was suggesting that if this measure passes he would instruct the DEA to honor the state law.

But I'm not moderating a debate.

A CO news reporter asked Romney that. His response was "Don't you have any real issues to ask me about?"

So, once again, Romney refuses to answer a policy question. Nice candidate you got there, Republicans. Since his religion forbides something as basic as coffee, I'm guessing Coloradans should get used to seeing this in their neighborhoods... 
[mikeely.files.wordpress.com image 438x276]

It's a good thing Obama would never do something like that.

/yes both sides are bad

One side is OBVIOUSLY better...Link

And the side that those 2 sides won't let play is obviously even better in this aspect. 

/so vote republican
//not really

Hey, like a lot of Coloradans, I have a big streak of libertarianism in my beliefs and if my only consideration was voting my conscience he might very well get my vote. But, living in 2012 America and living in a swing state, I'm forced to parse my vote and I choose to vote against the Mormon corporatist and for the guy I don't care for much, but who also happens to be OBVIOUSLY better when it comes to MJ rights.

Can you image what a douchebag Romney would be to Colorado if he wins, loses Colorado and Amendment 64 passes?

"Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil." - Jerry Garcia

This time around, I have decided not to choose between what I consider to be two evils.


ok, I respect that. I've done it myself. But Obama is clearly better on the MJ issue than Mormon Republican. Com'n...
 
2012-09-24 11:25:44 PM  

BSABSVR: There were no dispensaries under Bush. You are trying to draw conclusions from a sample size of 1.


I moved to CA in 2006 and there definitely was dispensaries.
 
2012-09-24 11:29:20 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: ok, I respect that. I've done it myself. But Obama is clearly better on the MJ issue than Mormon Republican. Com'n...


No argument that between those 2 evils, Obama sucks less than Romney on pot views. I will not say one is better than the other because they both suck on the issue and both avoid addressing it like the plague.
 
2012-09-24 11:33:41 PM  

TheJoe03: BSABSVR: There were no dispensaries under Bush. You are trying to draw conclusions from a sample size of 1.

I moved to CA in 2006 and there definitely was dispensaries.


We didnt have any walk in dispensaries open to the public in my area in 2006. They used to be a very private affair, invite only clubs, more "legit" to some extent (in that they werent hamburger stands for the 18-35 crowd like they are today). I wont say I saw an explosion coincide with Obama taking office, but the culture certainly did build up significantly in the past few years, until about late last year. Obama allowed the unthinkable to occur though, as the doomsday fed raids from last year swept my area. Before the raids, there were 30-40 shops within 15 minutes of my house, now we have only about 20. The majority of the rest were knocked into delivery services and other kinds of cannawork.
 
2012-09-24 11:33:42 PM  

jaylectricity: Who works for the DEA anyway? I mean, is there an office in Boston where I can apply for the job? Or do all these people come from a prick factory in southern Indiana?


Nobody answered, which is fine, I see you have many debates to work on. I was just thinking if the DEA was people from the area it would be easy for the populace to brow beat their local DEA agents.
 
2012-09-24 11:38:36 PM  

TheJoe03: BSABSVR: There were no dispensaries under Bush. You are trying to draw conclusions from a sample size of 1.

I moved to CA in 2006 and there definitely was dispensaries.


Sorry, should have been more clear. I was referencing the CO aspect. CO had no dispensaries under the Bush administration
 
2012-09-24 11:39:05 PM  

GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: ok, I respect that. I've done it myself. But Obama is clearly better on the MJ issue than Mormon Republican. Com'n...

No argument that between those 2 evils, Obama sucks less than Romney on pot views. I will not say one is better than the other because they both suck on the issue and both avoid addressing it like the plague.


*sigh* I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I would have no right or access to MJ if it wasn't for Obama. Romney is a Mormon, a religion that bans coffee. My personal belief is that if Romney wins, we will see a violent and bloody crackdown by the "small government" Republican president. But only Republican Jesus knows for sure what will happen to my rights.
 
2012-09-24 11:41:57 PM  

jaylectricity: I was just thinking if the DEA was people from the area it would be easy for the populace to brow beat their local DEA agents.


If the DEA is like other federal law enforcement, they typically assign you to an area where you aren't known. When I interviewed with the FBI, they told me that it wasn't impossible that I would eventually be assigned to my home town, but it was unlikely.
 
2012-09-24 11:45:02 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: GanjSmokr: Ow! That was my feelings!: ok, I respect that. I've done it myself. But Obama is clearly better on the MJ issue than Mormon Republican. Com'n...

No argument that between those 2 evils, Obama sucks less than Romney on pot views. I will not say one is better than the other because they both suck on the issue and both avoid addressing it like the plague.

*sigh* I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I would have no right or access to MJ if it wasn't for Obama. Romney is a Mormon, a religion that bans coffee. My personal belief is that if Romney wins, we will see a violent and bloody crackdown by the "small government" Republican president. But only Republican Jesus knows for sure what will happen to my rights.


What exactly has Obama done to give you right or access to MJ? States have been doing things to allow that access but what do you feel Obama has done specifically to assist them?
 
2012-09-24 11:49:37 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Not comparable. There were ZERO dispensaries in Colorado when Bush was POTUS. There are hundreds now. The reason you never heard about raids under Bush is because there were no dispensaries to raid.

And after Obama's "war on weed" there are still hundreds of dispensaries and 100,000+ MMJ patients. This is a bogus 'controversy'.


I'm not talking about Colorado. I'm talking about the entire country. There have been more raids under Obama's administration throughout the entire country. He basically helped ramp up the drug war.
 
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