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(Huffington Post)   Colorado may well be the first state to legalize marijuana. Like, as in, you can grow your own pot plants and give it to your friends kind of legalize. Sucks to be you, California   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 370
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2012-09-24 07:08:06 PM

ChaffedTitty: Funny, I've had a legal cannabis based business in Colorady for over a year.


So you run a Government Mandated Treatment Facility (like the ones the Judge makes you go to if you get caught with a joint) or what?

No info = suspicion of trickery

/no slashies
//oops Dammit
 
2012-09-24 07:08:54 PM

smitty04: Way too many "ifs" in that article. Gather your seeds just in case.


Smitty, if you are growing from seeds you have problems already. Get clones and stop contaminating your neighbors' crops before they come over and shoot you...
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-09-24 07:26:44 PM
babysealclubber: I was having the exact same thought. Isn't funny how everyone is pro-states rights, but only in their pet area?

One amicus brief in Gonzales v. Raich was from "red state" attorneys general supporting California because the principle of states' rights was more important than marijuana (which they opposed). Try a Google search for (louisiana amicus brief gonzales raich) for more info.

Oznog

The amendment allows growers to have three mature and three immature plants regardless of weight.
 
2012-09-24 07:27:18 PM

Archfeld: There is still the issue of driving under the influence of any substance which inhibits your ability to do so, illegal, legal, perscription or otherwise, and at the current time there IS NO MEDICAL way to test such. If I smoke at home on Saturday and get stopped on Monday there is no reasonable way to tell whether I am 'currently' high or it is just a hold-over. Until that can be resolved I forsee problems.


Apparently, Australia has saliva tests that can show if you've used cannabis in the past few hours. Before that there were medical blood tests.

But, driving high just isn't a real problem. There is this hard engrained false equivalency that being high is the same as being drunk and it just isn't true.
 
2012-09-24 07:30:27 PM

Archfeld: There is still the issue of driving under the influence of any substance which inhibits your ability to do so, illegal, legal, perscription or otherwise, and at the current time there IS NO MEDICAL way to test such. If I smoke at home on Saturday and get stopped on Monday there is no reasonable way to tell whether I am 'currently' high or it is just a hold-over. Until that can be resolved I forsee problems.


When I hear this argument, I usually suggest that we rely on actual roadside tests. Different people handle different levels of different substances differently. Some people can smoke a joint right before they go do construction work with no problem, some can't take a single hit without being laid out on the couch for the next several hours. If I can pass the roadside test without stumbling, slurring, having my attention taken away by a dog running by, falling asleep, etc then let me go on my way.
 
2012-09-24 07:31:07 PM

Archfeld: There is still the issue of driving under the influence of any substance which inhibits your ability to do so, illegal, legal, perscription or otherwise, and at the current time there IS NO MEDICAL way to test such.


So? That's what a field sobriety test is for. Time and time again grasping ninnys bring up this issue and time and time again they get shot down by logic.
 
2012-09-24 07:31:19 PM
It'll probably pass in Colorado because they don't have all the growers pumping money into the campaign against it like we did with Prop 19 here in California.

Although, it could be that California growers are pumping money into Colorado the same way the Mormon church pumped money into California for Prop 8.
 
2012-09-24 07:40:14 PM

flynn80: How about Reality Swap Show where for 1 year we lock up all the politicians and put the smartest stoners in charge.


Grand idea!

Lets try it.
 
2012-09-24 07:44:17 PM

flynn80: How about Reality Swap Show where for 1 year we lock up all the politicians and put the smartest stoners in charge.


What an inmate that's been locked up with a politician for a year might look like.

malcontent.typepad.com
 
2012-09-24 07:48:53 PM
OMG ANNUAL DEATHS -

WEED 0
ALCOHOL 10 QUADRILLION
 
2012-09-24 07:51:29 PM

Three-Fifty: UGH. NO. Not if I have anything to say about it. I am voting against this.

Until they can make a completely odorless and/or smokeless version of it, I will never vote to make it legal. Regular ciggies are stinky enough. I don't need the people living under my condo to smoke it MORE so my home can smell of it 24/7.


10/10 You really knocked it out of the park.
 
2012-09-24 07:55:00 PM

SurfaceTension: I'm wondering how a movement to implement a Constitutional amendment through the state convention process would work. The amendment would be something along the lines of "US Gov't can't enforce marijuana laws within the U.S." or something like that.


You'll never see that happen. The problem is once the convention starts, it can add anything it wants to the Constitution. That puts an incredible amount of power into the hands of the very small number of people at the convention. They could even make it Constitutional to accept bribes to change the Constitution. You could see the people attending becoming some of the riches people on earth as every special interest paid to have their desires written into the governing code of the nation.
 
2012-09-24 07:56:48 PM

The Southern Dandy: It'll probably pass in Colorado because they don't have all the growers pumping money into the campaign against it like we did with Prop 19 here in California.

Although, it could be that California growers are pumping money into Colorado the same way the Mormon church pumped money into California for Prop 8.


While I agree that many 'old school' growers/suppliers were opposed to Cali Prop 19, they are not why it lost. It lost because besides the simple act of legalization, Prop 19 also decided to go after a company's ability to screen and not hire or fire MJ consumers. It would have setup an expensive and bureaucratic system of arbitration. That lead to massive opposition from big money corporations pouring millions into its defeat. Prop 19 was not a simple, yes or no on MJ legalization, it was basically a "union" bill to get weed legal. They farked it up.

Amendment 64 is simple. Yes or no, adults over 21 are allowed to possess, grow, and consume the herb. We have a bunch of folks here in Colorado outraged that 64 doesn't go further, like Cali's measure. Thankfully, we were able to defeat their greedy, delusional asses at the initiatives beginning and we can have a simple up or down vote. 

//Keep it simple, don't get greedy, one step at a time and we will win. It is inevitable at this point.
 
2012-09-24 07:59:46 PM
"People growing their own could have up to six plants, with no more than three being mature at any given time. "


Uh yeah subby, my county sucks compared to most of CA and Im allowed to grow twice as many plants.
 
2012-09-24 08:02:17 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Rocky Mountain high... Colorado...

Rocky Mountain high... High in Colorado...


Link
 
2012-09-24 08:02:41 PM

The Southern Dandy: It'll probably pass in Colorado because they don't have all the growers pumping money into the campaign against it like we did with Prop 19 here in California.



Good to know one of our biggest obstacles in cannabis legalization here in California is shady growers. Thanks, assholes!

/Good grower
 
2012-09-24 08:08:12 PM

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: I could understand this. You'd have to be high to live in Colorado.

 

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2012-09-24 08:11:01 PM

Abox: Courts in Colorado are already turning away mmj-related breach of contract cases due to Federal law conflicts. They can legalize it but you still need to break legs if you get screwed over.



We learned it the hard way here in CA, the credit card companies owed huge chunks of money to the medical dispensaries up north due to a type of payment process they use.When it was convenient for them, suddenly the credit card companies pulled the "Well we dont have to pay you, previous dear customer, your business is federally illegal!"

Also, unlike most other stores, youre buying at your own risk. Ive actually been ripped off for over $100 at a pot shop before back in the day, by some punk kid budtender, and there are no franchise managers to complain to some times. Pot shops employ at least 1 armed guard around here, I'd have to come back guns blazing to get my damn money back. Its not usually ever like that, but it is possible with a commodity like this.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-09-24 08:15:41 PM
Ow! That was my feelings!: Amendment 64 is simple.

It's not simple at all. It's several pages, written into the constitution and referencing statutes, where a paragraph would do. It may be simpler than California's initiative.

EngineerAU

There is concern over what would come out of a convention, but states still get to vote on the result.

Congress has attempted to limit the authority of a constitutional convention to the single subject for which it was convened, but there is serious doubt that the law doing so would have any effect.
 
2012-09-24 08:16:03 PM
The organized opposition to Prop 64 in Colorado is being headed by a former candidate for the US Senate named Ken Buck. A jackass who is on record as claiming to be an big advocate for States' Rights, and who is currently saying "bu-bu-but federal law whine piss moan lie..."
 
2012-09-24 08:19:26 PM

ZAZ: As a legal concept the Supreme Court voted 6-3 that states have no rights. (Gonzales v. Raich)


The Lee v. Grant decision of 1865 abolished the concept of states rights.
 
2012-09-24 08:24:09 PM
Oh and by the way--Ken Buck? He's the Weld County District Attorney. Think he might have a vested interest in keeping his conviction rate high?

Asshole.
 
2012-09-24 08:25:27 PM

Maechyll: The organized opposition to Prop 64 in Colorado is being headed by a former candidate for the US Senate named Ken Buck. A jackass who is on record as claiming to be an big advocate for States' Rights, and who is currently saying "bu-bu-but federal law whine piss moan lie..."


Article with some info on that
 
2012-09-24 08:33:33 PM

GanjSmokr: Maechyll: The organized opposition to Prop 64 in Colorado is being headed by a former candidate for the US Senate named Ken Buck. A jackass who is on record as claiming to be an big advocate for States' Rights, and who is currently saying "bu-bu-but federal law whine piss moan lie..."

Article with some info on that


And this is what they want you to believe:

http://www.votenoon64.com/
 
2012-09-24 08:34:10 PM

Maechyll: The organized opposition to Prop 64 in Colorado is being headed by a former candidate for the US Senate named Ken Buck. A jackass who is on record as claiming to be an big advocate for States' Rights, and who is currently saying "bu-bu-but federal law whine piss moan lie..."


That's awesome. I also heard their funding is next to nothing compared to proponents of the bill. I can't help but think Colorado will be the first to legalize it. Then again, Washington and Oregon might get it too. I'm really not hearing much opposition at all in any of those states, in fact, especially when compared to the opposition Cali received in 2010.

I think 2012 is the beginning of the end of marijuana prohibition.

fark. I didn't believe it then, but now...

I really believe it!!

/feels good you guys
 
2012-09-24 08:34:34 PM

walkerhound: ZAZ: I read the text of the measure. I think it allows the state to do nothing and regulatory authority devolves to cities. Nobody would have standing to force the legislature or executive to take statewide action called for by the amendment.

I think this was also the case for MMJ dispensaries - whose numbers shot through the roof until nearly every city in Northern Colorado decided to ban them. I think it just means that they would've been better off had they just started in unincorporated parts of the county.

This story's kinda funny, because we just had a huge drug bust locally: Link


Yep, and it's kinda funny that the person who reported them was a legal MMJ producer
 
2012-09-24 08:35:59 PM

Maechyll: The organized opposition to Prop 64 in Colorado is being headed by a former candidate for the US Senate named Ken Buck. A jackass who is on record as claiming to be an big advocate for States' Rights, and who is currently saying "bu-bu-but federal law whine piss moan lie..."


Another interesting fact on the opposition is that they are mostly financed by a Florida(!) Evangelical group called Saving Our Society from Drugs. This group is run by Betty Sembler whose husband Mel is Mitt Romney's Florida campaign finance chair.

The farked up thing about that, besides the fact a group from Florida is the main opposition to 64, is that a not insignificant number of Colorado Republicans are involved with the MMJ business community and would be ruined if Romney wins the election and sends in the DEA goons to crack heads and put boots on necks. Colorado should be a slam dunk for Romney(this year anyway), but we have a lot of libertarian-Republicans out this way and his Mormonism and association with radical out of state Fundies it's gonna cost him 9 Electoral votes. 

//Grow the fark up, Repubs. Start living that 'small government' propaganda you preach.
 
2012-09-24 08:37:02 PM

Maechyll: GanjSmokr: Maechyll: The organized opposition to Prop 64 in Colorado is being headed by a former candidate for the US Senate named Ken Buck. A jackass who is on record as claiming to be an big advocate for States' Rights, and who is currently saying "bu-bu-but federal law whine piss moan lie..."

Article with some info on that

And this is what they want you to believe:

http://www.votenoon64.com/


As soon as you look at the home page, youknow it's gonna be "EHRMERGERRRD, THINK OF TEH CHIRRUN!!!11!
 
2012-09-24 08:37:26 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: Weaver95: i'm pretty sure that if Colorado does this, the DEA will go f*cking nuts.

This. Cunning plan, etc. For better or for worse, marijuana/THC is still a schedule 1 controlled substance. All this will do is stir up a hornet's nest of jurisdictional fights like it did in Cali. (See "State-Licensed Medical Dispensaries - DEA Raids On")


The law allows for every person to have up two three plants "ready to harvest". Come at everyone in Colorado, DEA
 
2012-09-24 08:39:36 PM

Maechyll: GanjSmokr: Maechyll: The organized opposition to Prop 64 in Colorado is being headed by a former candidate for the US Senate named Ken Buck. A jackass who is on record as claiming to be an big advocate for States' Rights, and who is currently saying "bu-bu-but federal law whine piss moan lie..."

Article with some info on that

And this is what they want you to believe:

http://www.votenoon64.com/


And you oppose 64, why? Com'n, let's have a debate, prohibitionist.
 
2012-09-24 08:41:23 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Maechyll: GanjSmokr: Maechyll: The organized opposition to Prop 64 in Colorado is being headed by a former candidate for the US Senate named Ken Buck. A jackass who is on record as claiming to be an big advocate for States' Rights, and who is currently saying "bu-bu-but federal law whine piss moan lie..."

Article with some info on that

And this is what they want you to believe:

http://www.votenoon64.com/

And you oppose 64, why? Com'n, let's have a debate, prohibitionist.


Umm...what?
 
2012-09-24 08:41:58 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Maechyll: GanjSmokr: Maechyll: The organized opposition to Prop 64 in Colorado is being headed by a former candidate for the US Senate named Ken Buck. A jackass who is on record as claiming to be an big advocate for States' Rights, and who is currently saying "bu-bu-but federal law whine piss moan lie..."

Article with some info on that

And this is what they want you to believe:

http://www.votenoon64.com/

And you oppose 64, why? Com'n, let's have a debate, prohibitionist.


ah, nevermind...
 
2012-09-24 08:43:16 PM

Maechyll: Ow! That was my feelings!: Maechyll: GanjSmokr: Maechyll: The organized opposition to Prop 64 in Colorado is being headed by a former candidate for the US Senate named Ken Buck. A jackass who is on record as claiming to be an big advocate for States' Rights, and who is currently saying "bu-bu-but federal law whine piss moan lie..."

Article with some info on that

And this is what they want you to believe:

http://www.votenoon64.com/

And you oppose 64, why? Com'n, let's have a debate, prohibitionist.

Umm...what?


sorry, carry on. looking for someone to punch.... again, nevermind.
 
2012-09-24 08:44:00 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Ow! That was my feelings!: Maechyll: GanjSmokr: Maechyll: The organized opposition to Prop 64 in Colorado is being headed by a former candidate for the US Senate named Ken Buck. A jackass who is on record as claiming to be an big advocate for States' Rights, and who is currently saying "bu-bu-but federal law whine piss moan lie..."

Article with some info on that

And this is what they want you to believe:

http://www.votenoon64.com/

And you oppose 64, why? Com'n, let's have a debate, prohibitionist.

ah, nevermind...


No troubles. : )

*puffs puffs passes to Ow! That was my feelings!*
 
2012-09-24 08:48:03 PM

Maechyll: Maechyll: GanjSmokr: Maechyll: The organized opposition to Prop 64 in Colorado is being headed by a former candidate for the US Senate named Ken Buck. A jackass who is on record as claiming to be an big advocate for States' Rights, and who is currently saying "bu-bu-but federal law whine piss moan lie..."

Article with some info on that

And this is what they want you to believe:

http://www.votenoon64.com/

As soon as you look at the home page, youknow it's gonna be "EHRMERGERRRD, THINK OF TEH CHIRRUN!!!11!


Makes me sad that some people actually believe what they are pushing on that site. They make it sound like if the prop passes, not only will there be a pot store on every corner, there will be 12 year old kids now hooked on it and driving around in their cars high. Sounds like a crazy world they envision.
 
2012-09-24 08:49:27 PM

Maechyll: Ow! That was my feelings!: Ow! That was my feelings!: Maechyll: GanjSmokr: Maechyll: The organized opposition to Prop 64 in Colorado is being headed by a former candidate for the US Senate named Ken Buck. A jackass who is on record as claiming to be an big advocate for States' Rights, and who is currently saying "bu-bu-but federal law whine piss moan lie..."

Article with some info on that

And this is what they want you to believe:

http://www.votenoon64.com/

And you oppose 64, why? Com'n, let's have a debate, prohibitionist.

ah, nevermind...

No troubles. : )

*puffs puffs passes to Ow! That was my feelings!*


*tips hat* appreciate it, but work....
 
2012-09-24 08:52:09 PM

scottydoesntknow: Three-Fifty: Until they can make a completely odorless and/or smokeless version of it, I will never vote to make it legal.

Yea, they do already. Brownies, cookies, candies, butter, etc. Hell you can cook a 5-course meal using it. Use some of the canna-butter to make a béarnaise sauce for your steak, it's like eating a cut from heaven.


vaporizer
 
2012-09-24 09:01:24 PM
Obama will just send in his goons like he did here in California.
 
2012-09-24 09:02:50 PM

Hale-Bopp: Maechyll: The organized opposition to Prop 64 in Colorado is being headed by a former candidate for the US Senate named Ken Buck. A jackass who is on record as claiming to be an big advocate for States' Rights, and who is currently saying "bu-bu-but federal law whine piss moan lie..."

That's awesome. I also heard their funding is next to nothing compared to proponents of the bill. I can't help but think Colorado will be the first to legalize it. Then again, Washington and Oregon might get it too. I'm really not hearing much opposition at all in any of those states, in fact, especially when compared to the opposition Cali received in 2010.

I think 2012 is the beginning of the end of marijuana prohibition.

fark. I didn't believe it then, but now...

I really believe it!!

/feels good you guys


Marijuana is doing worse under a Democrat than under George Bush of all people. Obama has sent us back YEARS.
 
2012-09-24 09:17:20 PM

Novart: Hale-Bopp: Maechyll: The organized opposition to Prop 64 in Colorado is being headed by a former candidate for the US Senate named Ken Buck. A jackass who is on record as claiming to be an big advocate for States' Rights, and who is currently saying "bu-bu-but federal law whine piss moan lie..."

That's awesome. I also heard their funding is next to nothing compared to proponents of the bill. I can't help but think Colorado will be the first to legalize it. Then again, Washington and Oregon might get it too. I'm really not hearing much opposition at all in any of those states, in fact, especially when compared to the opposition Cali received in 2010.

I think 2012 is the beginning of the end of marijuana prohibition.

fark. I didn't believe it then, but now...

I really believe it!!

/feels good you guys

Marijuana is doing worse under a Democrat than under George Bush of all people. Obama has sent us back YEARS.


Bullshiat!

Seriously, I don't get the Obama hate on this. In Colorado, the freedom to smoke I now have is on Obama. He backed the DEA off of us when he was first elected. Sure, they have come back in with further regulation on COMMERCIAL growers and DISPENSERIES, but they could come in with fire and blood if they wanted. Think about that on election day Coloradans, do you want DEA goons that Romney would send in to put a boot on your neck or the tiresome regulation of Obama?

Romney = blood
Obama = paperwork
 
2012-09-24 09:48:45 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Seriously, I don't get the Obama hate on this.


To me he crossed the line when the Feds started go after Harborside and Oaksterdam.
 
2012-09-24 09:58:56 PM

TheJoe03: Ow! That was my feelings!: Seriously, I don't get the Obama hate on this.

To me he crossed the line when the Feds started go after Harborside and Oaksterdam.


ok, honestly, I'm not sure what 'he' did to 'go after' them, linkage would be awesome. Here in Colorado, the local federal prosecutor sent out letters to dispenseries that were within 1000 feet of a school that they had 45 days to close or they might get raided. Sure, that sucks for the individuals who invested in that location, but that is about the worst we've had to deal with on a federal level. Apparently, it is worse in Cali?
 
2012-09-24 10:01:46 PM

Hollie Maea: If I were moderating a debate, I would ask Romney if, when he said that Marijuana is a state issue, he was suggesting that if this measure passes he would instruct the DEA to honor the state law.

But I'm not moderating a debate.


A CO news reporter asked Romney that. His response was "Don't you have any real issues to ask me about?"
 
2012-09-24 10:07:22 PM

TimonC346: Weaver95: i'm pretty sure that if Colorado does this, the DEA will go f*cking nuts.

Yeah--but I'm not exactly sure why. I don't buy the argument that Big Pharma is scared of pot. I'd be willing to bet they are ready for it, medical grade pot or some kind of THC patch or something. Am I supposed to believe that the alcohol industry is afraid and lobbying against it? I know a ton of people, legal or not, that will smoke and drink, just smoke, or just drink. I don't buy that either.

Why do we still care?


The DEA is against it because they want the job security. DEA agents would ban smoking and drinking if they could.

People who worry about big pharma's reaction to this are just being naive. Big Pharma doesn't really care.
 
2012-09-24 10:07:36 PM

Novart: Hale-Bopp: Maechyll: The organized opposition to Prop 64 in Colorado is being headed by a former candidate for the US Senate named Ken Buck. A jackass who is on record as claiming to be an big advocate for States' Rights, and who is currently saying "bu-bu-but federal law whine piss moan lie..."

That's awesome. I also heard their funding is next to nothing compared to proponents of the bill. I can't help but think Colorado will be the first to legalize it. Then again, Washington and Oregon might get it too. I'm really not hearing much opposition at all in any of those states, in fact, especially when compared to the opposition Cali received in 2010.

I think 2012 is the beginning of the end of marijuana prohibition.

fark. I didn't believe it then, but now...

I really believe it!!

/feels good you guys

Marijuana is doing worse under a Democrat than under George Bush of all people. Obama has sent us back YEARS.


I think it's horrible under either federal administration. That's why I think we're gonna win this thing state by state. Just one is a great start, but we might get two or three!
 
2012-09-24 10:07:50 PM

BSABSVR: Hollie Maea: If I were moderating a debate, I would ask Romney if, when he said that Marijuana is a state issue, he was suggesting that if this measure passes he would instruct the DEA to honor the state law.

But I'm not moderating a debate.

A CO news reporter asked Romney that. His response was "Don't you have any real issues to ask me about?"


So, once again, Romney refuses to answer a policy question. Nice candidate you got there, Republicans. Since his religion forbides something as basic as coffee, I'm guessing Coloradans should get used to seeing this in their neighborhoods... 
mikeely.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-24 10:09:15 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: ok, honestly, I'm not sure what 'he' did to 'go after' them, linkage would be awesome.


He's in charge of the executive branch of our federal govt.
 
2012-09-24 10:12:01 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Apparently, it is worse in Cali?


Yes, the state and most local govt (at least in NorCal) don't go after medical marijuana in any way, but the feds are cracking down hard here.
 
2012-09-24 10:12:05 PM

tricycleracer: Question for the medical card holders out there: Can a company refuse to hire you for a positive drug test even if you have a medical card?


Yes. CO has had several medical card holders fired. At least one case is still in the court system.
 
2012-09-24 10:13:12 PM

TheJoe03: Ow! That was my feelings!: ok, honestly, I'm not sure what 'he' did to 'go after' them, linkage would be awesome.

He's in charge of the executive branch of our federal govt.


??? yes, you are correct. Please go back and read what else I wrote and....

linkage is for closers.
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