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(Politico)   Sequester 2: Electric booga-we're out of money   (politico.com ) divider line
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2012-09-24 10:13:27 AM  
This is what happens when you have media organizations like Fox News and MSNBC attacking any moves from their corrupt point of views, election laws that allow billions of dollars to be spent with disclosure, and entire generation of Baby Boomers who care more about protecting their own comfy retirements than doing what is right for the future of the nation.
 
2012-09-24 10:22:52 AM  

WTF Indeed: This is what happens when you have media organizations like Fox News and MSNBC attacking any moves from their corrupt point of views, election laws that allow billions of dollars to be spent with disclosure, and entire generation of Baby Boomers who care more about protecting their own comfy retirements than doing what is right for the future of the nation.


Don't worry, in 20 years, my generation will do the same thing to our kids. It's the circle of life
 
2012-09-24 10:37:38 AM  

somedude210: WTF Indeed: This is what happens when you have media organizations like Fox News and MSNBC attacking any moves from their corrupt point of views, election laws that allow billions of dollars to be spent with disclosure, and entire generation of Baby Boomers who care more about protecting their own comfy retirements than doing what is right for the future of the nation.

Don't worry, in 20 years, my generation will do the same thing to our kids. It's the circle of life


Except at some point it all goes tits up, and everyone is farked.
 
2012-09-24 10:38:05 AM  
So what I know of the first sequestration and the result: They put some guys together and if they didn't come up with some kind of compromise (which would then supposedly be accepted by the majority of legislators) then some big mandatory cuts would go into effect anyways.

Now Republicans are telling me that those mandatory cuts were all a democratic trick and that's why the super-committee or whatever couldn't get anything done: democrat obstruction.

But didn't republicans WANT the default cuts originally? To blame the dems after the fact as tricksters kind of means they are either lying or admitting complete and utter incompetence right?
 
2012-09-24 10:39:01 AM  

Raharu: somedude210: WTF Indeed: This is what happens when you have media organizations like Fox News and MSNBC attacking any moves from their corrupt point of views, election laws that allow billions of dollars to be spent with disclosure, and entire generation of Baby Boomers who care more about protecting their own comfy retirements than doing what is right for the future of the nation.

Don't worry, in 20 years, my generation will do the same thing to our kids. It's the circle of life

Except at some point it all goes tits up, and everyone is farked.


that's when my kid's generation tries to pass it on to my grandkid's.
 
2012-09-24 10:39:48 AM  
Obama should agree to help unwind the sequester on the condition that the entirety of the GOP sign a letter stating that government spending creates jobs.
 
2012-09-24 10:40:10 AM  

WTF Indeed: This is what happens when you have media organizations like Fox News and MSNBC attacking any moves from their corrupt point of views, election laws that allow billions of dollars to be spent with disclosure, and entire generation of Baby Boomers who care more about protecting their own comfy retirements than doing what is right for the future of the nation.


This is whats been farking our country. The boomers lived on credit and can't pay it back so now the future generations have to pay. As a whole they were self-entitled narcissist.
 
2012-09-24 10:40:58 AM  
FTFA: "Everyone is trying to figure out how to not have to be the person to make the decision," said Sen. Mark Begich (D-Alaska).

This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2012-09-24 10:41:29 AM  
well, if republicans would have simply allowed us to pay our farking bills and raise the debt ceiling like they have dozens of times before, this wouldn't be an issue. but they put party before country, as they always do, and now we're here.
 
2012-09-24 10:42:03 AM  
Part of me wants to see sequestration happen. There would be something beautifully poetic about Washington willingly putting in place above their heads the sword of Damocles, in order to force cooperation and compromise, then having it fall and take out everyone involved because even that wasn't enough to get everyone on board. "Hey guys, I'm just going to set this bomb over here to go off unless we reach an agreement by this date. Uh... this date is rapidly approaching... Uh... I can't turn this off. We actually set us up the bomb? What are we, morons? Everybody run!"
 
2012-09-24 10:43:32 AM  
Keep kicking that can Congress.
 
2012-09-24 10:46:54 AM  
Sequester

Abjuration
Level: Sor/Wiz 7
Components: V, S, M
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Touch
Target: One willing creature or object (up to a 2-ft. cube/level) touched
Duration: One day/level (D)
Saving Throw: None or Will negates (object)
Spell Resistance: No or Yes (object)

When cast, this spell not only prevents divination spells from working to detect or locate the creature or object affected by sequester, it also renders the affected creature or object invisible to any form of sight or seeing (as the invisibility spell). The spell does not prevent the subject from being discovered through tactile means or through the use of devices. Creatures affected by sequester become comatose and are effectively in a state of suspended animation until the spell wears off or is dispelled.

Note: The Will save prevents an attended or magical object from being sequestered. There is no save to see the sequestered creature or object or to detect it with a divination spell.

Material Component
A basilisk eyelash, gum arabic, and a dram of whitewash.
 
2012-09-24 10:55:16 AM  
I'm beginning to think that we could form a more effective and responsible congress by doing away with elections and replacing them with a program of kidnapping random people off the street and forcing them to hold a single term of office.

At most, you'd have senators and congressmen resentful of the way they were dragooned into office and they'd do one of two things:
A) absolutely nothing at all but biatch and moan; or in other words pretty much what we've got now.
2) try to fark up the country as much as they can in revenge, which would only last until realize they'll be out of office soon.
 
2012-09-24 10:57:17 AM  
That's called brokedancing.

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2012-09-24 11:34:04 AM  

FlashHarry: well, if republicans would have simply allowed us to pay our farking bills and raise the debt ceiling like they have dozens of times before, this wouldn't be an issue. but they put party before country, as they always do, and now we're here.


Raising the debt ceiling is not paying your bills. It's just incurring more debt.
 
2012-09-24 11:37:31 AM  

cabbyman: FlashHarry: well, if republicans would have simply allowed us to pay our farking bills and raise the debt ceiling like they have dozens of times before, this wouldn't be an issue. but they put party before country, as they always do, and now we're here.

Raising the debt ceiling is not paying your bills. It's just incurring more debt.



No. Authorizing the spending is incurring debt. Once authorized, refusing to pay is not paying your bills. Wether you pay it or not you still owe the money. You don't get to tell the credit card company you don't want to pay them because then you'd be in debt, that's not how it works.
 
2012-09-24 11:42:26 AM  

WTF Indeed: This is what happens when you have media organizations like Fox News and MSNBC attacking any moves from their corrupt point of views, election laws that allow billions of dollars to be spent with disclosure, and entire generation of Baby Boomers Republicans who care more about protecting their own comfy retirements than doing what is right for the future of the nation.

 


Actually, it's the tax cut and keep spending republicans that are threatening your future.
 
2012-09-24 11:55:32 AM  

cabbyman: Raising the debt ceiling is not paying your bills. It's just incurring more debt.


Do go on. This should be interesting.
 
2012-09-24 11:55:58 AM  

Raharu: somedude210: WTF Indeed: This is what happens when you have media organizations like Fox News and MSNBC attacking any moves from their corrupt point of views, election laws that allow billions of dollars to be spent with disclosure, and entire generation of Baby Boomers who care more about protecting their own comfy retirements than doing what is right for the future of the nation.

Don't worry, in 20 years, my generation will do the same thing to our kids. It's the circle of life

Except at some point it all goes tits up, and everyone is farked.


If this sequestration thing really takes off, you will see upper-middle class rioting here in the DC suburbs. The rage against obstructionist Republicans will be palpable. This is not an area where people are inclined to blame the President for this, because they understand the importance and value of government. The Republican Party "left them" a long time ago.

It won't be poor people getting laid off and smashing storefronts in this ... it'll be upper-middle class suburbanites, and the potential for violent backlash against the Republicans on The Hill honestly worries me. Take away someone's career over a petty ideological squabble and you'd best watch your back on your way out of town.
 
2012-09-24 12:00:01 PM  

MacEnvy: If this sequestration thing really takes off, you will see upper-middle class rioting here in the DC suburbs. The rage against obstructionist Republicans will be palpable. This is not an area where people are inclined to blame the President for this, because they understand the importance and value of government. The Republican Party "left them" a long time ago.

It won't be poor people getting laid off and smashing storefronts in this ... it'll be upper-middle class suburbanites, and the potential for violent backlash against the Republicans on The Hill honestly worries me. Take away someone's career over a petty ideological squabble and you'd best watch your back on your way out of town.


I want to clarify that that I am NOT advocating this in any way. I am genuinely nervous about the impact around here though, and the fallout.
 
2012-09-24 12:04:00 PM  

MacEnvy: MacEnvy: If this sequestration thing really takes off, you will see upper-middle class rioting here in the DC suburbs. The rage against obstructionist Republicans will be palpable. This is not an area where people are inclined to blame the President for this, because they understand the importance and value of government. The Republican Party "left them" a long time ago.

It won't be poor people getting laid off and smashing storefronts in this ... it'll be upper-middle class suburbanites, and the potential for violent backlash against the Republicans on The Hill honestly worries me. Take away someone's career over a petty ideological squabble and you'd best watch your back on your way out of town.

I want to clarify that that I am NOT advocating this in any way. I am genuinely nervous about the impact around here though, and the fallout.


If I woke up one morning to the news that Democrats were rioting in DC and trying to kill Republicans I just dont know what I'd do.

Go to work, probably.
 
2012-09-24 12:07:35 PM  
Perhaps they need to literally sequester Congress. I could think of worse guys for the job than Vlad Tepesh.
 
2012-09-24 12:10:32 PM  

somedude210: Raharu: somedude210: WTF Indeed: This is what happens when you have media organizations like Fox News and MSNBC attacking any moves from their corrupt point of views, election laws that allow billions of dollars to be spent with disclosure, and entire generation of Baby Boomers who care more about protecting their own comfy retirements than doing what is right for the future of the nation.

Don't worry, in 20 years, my generation will do the same thing to our kids. It's the circle of life

Except at some point it all goes tits up, and everyone is farked.

that's when my kid's generation tries to pass it on to my grandkid's.


Then our great-grant children invent time travel and try to stop us, but end up causing the dinosaurs to go extinct 10 years early. And no one notices.
 
2012-09-24 12:11:54 PM  

MacEnvy: MacEnvy: If this sequestration thing really takes off, you will see upper-middle class rioting here in the DC suburbs. The rage against obstructionist Republicans will be palpable. This is not an area where people are inclined to blame the President for this, because they understand the importance and value of government. The Republican Party "left them" a long time ago.

It won't be poor people getting laid off and smashing storefronts in this ... it'll be upper-middle class suburbanites, and the potential for violent backlash against the Republicans on The Hill honestly worries me. Take away someone's career over a petty ideological squabble and you'd best watch your back on your way out of town.

I want to clarify that that I am NOT advocating this in any way. I am genuinely nervous about the impact around here though, and the fallout.


Until the upper and middle classes feel as hopeless as the rest of us, nothing will change. This jobless recovery will continue until we have a New New Deal. I hope that Obamacare is the first step toward that.
 
2012-09-24 12:13:11 PM  
I think we should allow the GOP to pull the same crap they have been doing out of partisan spite at the peril of our economy........because that's what they're going to do.
 
2012-09-24 12:14:39 PM  
Interesting article. It shows the budget wonky senior Senators quietly starting to think about life in 2013 and beyond and hinting that there is room for compromise on revenue & spending cuts. The possibilities for solutions are endless and just some details that need to be worked out.

I will make sure to turn on C-Span when the House takes up this matter.
 
2012-09-24 12:40:23 PM  

Blue_Blazer: Perhaps they need to literally sequester Congress. I could think of worse guys for the job than Vlad Tepesh.


I like this idea. Lock all of them in the capitol building with nothing but water and crackers. Turn off the A/C, heat, and hot water and tell them they aren't leaving until they've actually voted on a budget. Toss the President in there too, because I don't want him vetoing whatever gets decided upon. Make sure the cameras are rolling the entire time for safety reasons, and because this needs to be available for public viewing. Let's make them make some tough decisions, and do their jobs.
 
2012-09-24 02:07:07 PM  

Andyxc: Blue_Blazer: Perhaps they need to literally sequester Congress. I could think of worse guys for the job than Vlad Tepesh.

I like this idea. Lock all of them in the capitol building with nothing but water and crackers. Turn off the A/C, heat, and hot water and tell them they aren't leaving until they've actually voted on a budget. Toss the President in there too, because I don't want him vetoing whatever gets decided upon. Make sure the cameras are rolling the entire time for safety reasons, and because this needs to be available for public viewing. Let's make them make some tough decisions, and do their jobs.


And introduce some professional wrestling gimmicks. 24 after you lock the cage and every hour afterwords, you release a few wild ferrets into the room.
 
2012-09-24 02:27:36 PM  
The only problem with sequestering is that is just does not go far enough. A 10% cut? Hah! Since we can't raise taxes we need a 50% cut in government spending across the board, including the military and Social Security.
 
2012-09-24 04:42:20 PM  

MordenkainensFaithful Hound: Sequester


Story:
In a campaign, in order to stop a mage that was hell-bent on killing me and the party, and demanded an artifact we had assembled that would give him limitless power, I used this spell to obscure us from scrying. In the interim two weeks or so, I used Fabricate to make a perfect replica of the staff, some sort of spell to fake its enchantment, and then placed Soul Trap on the Staff.

Soul Trap conveys no saving throw if the object is taken willingly - I slew the final bad guy of the campaign without even lifting a hand through deceitful trickery.

/And then wore the gem i trapped his soul in to every High council meeting of the Mage Acadamy for the rest of the time I served, just to mock him.
//We did not get along, the main protagonist NPC and my character
///CSB to me =^(
 
2012-09-24 05:00:39 PM  

JokerMattly: MordenkainensFaithful Hound: Sequester

Story:
In a campaign, in order to stop a mage that was hell-bent on killing me and the party, and demanded an artifact we had assembled that would give him limitless power, I used this spell to obscure us from scrying. In the interim two weeks or so, I used Fabricate to make a perfect replica of the staff, some sort of spell to fake its enchantment, and then placed Soul Trap on the Staff.

Soul Trap conveys no saving throw if the object is taken willingly - I slew the final bad guy of the campaign without even lifting a hand through deceitful trickery.

/And then wore the gem i trapped his soul in to every High council meeting of the Mage Acadamy for the rest of the time I served, just to mock him.
//We did not get along, the main protagonist NPC and my character
///CSB to me =^(


Nice! Sounds like Nystul's Magic Aura for the fake enchantment.
 
2012-09-24 05:44:06 PM  

cabbyman: Raising the debt ceiling is not paying your bills. It's just incurring more debt.


you're wrong.

In the absence of sufficient revenue, a failure to raise the debt ceiling would result in the administration being unable to fund all the spending which it is required to do by prior acts of Congress.

the debt ceiling must be raised in order to pay for stuff we've already bought. failing to raise the debt ceiling is like trying to get out of debt by not paying your credit card bills. all that happens is that your credit rating goes to shiat - which is exactly what happened when republicans pulled their stunt in august of 2011.
 
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