ozarkmatt: Lets break this down, here is what I saw live and after a million replays.1) Ball thrown in the corner for a Hail Mary2) Offensive WR pushes a Defensive back away from the play. Any kind of PI usually isn't called in a Hail Mary attempt, but if one was called here, NOBODY would complain.3) Defensive player catches ball, wraps two hands around it and hugs it to his body.4) As both players are going down, offensive player puts one hand on the ball - still hugged to the defense player's body5) Players hit the ground and as the defensive player's ass hits the turf (thus making the play over), the offensive player puts his other hand on the ball.6) Fight for the ball starts7) Two refs appear and hover over the scene.8) The defensive player ends up having the ball on his chest with the offensive player still having two hands on it9) Refs look at each other, think they have the same idea, both put their hands up to make a call10) One ref calls time stop. The other calls TD.11) Chaos and bullshiat ensueDid I miss anything?
xelnia: Harv72b: WhyteRaven74: [i.qkme.me image 400x301]It's funny as is, but Goodell's head shopped onto Drew's body would make it fall-over-and-soil-yourself funny.Just 'shop the glasses off, and it looks pretty close...
davidphogan: Sabyen91: GreatGlavinsGhost: Olympic Trolling Judge: GreatGlavinsGhost: Thank you. Dear Commissioner cannot resign. Dear Commissioner cannot be fired. Dear Commissioner is Commissioner or life.Why stop there? When he finally dies and his daughters take over, they may name him Eternal Commissioner and take a lower title.If this is not settled before next Sunday, I expect to see (and hear) some very funny stuff about Dear Commissioner. Hopefully, during the games.I won't be hearing anything during the games. This is the final straw.Also: Are you ready to boycott some football? Steve Young claimed it's the only way to save football
Sabyen91: GreatGlavinsGhost: Olympic Trolling Judge: GreatGlavinsGhost: Thank you. Dear Commissioner cannot resign. Dear Commissioner cannot be fired. Dear Commissioner is Commissioner or life.Why stop there? When he finally dies and his daughters take over, they may name him Eternal Commissioner and take a lower title.If this is not settled before next Sunday, I expect to see (and hear) some very funny stuff about Dear Commissioner. Hopefully, during the games.I won't be hearing anything during the games. This is the final straw.
GreatGlavinsGhost: Olympic Trolling Judge: GreatGlavinsGhost: Thank you. Dear Commissioner cannot resign. Dear Commissioner cannot be fired. Dear Commissioner is Commissioner or life.Why stop there? When he finally dies and his daughters take over, they may name him Eternal Commissioner and take a lower title.If this is not settled before next Sunday, I expect to see (and hear) some very funny stuff about Dear Commissioner. Hopefully, during the games.
Harv72b: Sabyen91: Even the ref probably won't defend his call. Must be the ref's mom.Replacement refs don't have moms. Goodell hatches them out of unholy cloneries.
Sabyen91: That is what I said. The simultaneous possession rules count for the whole play. He is trying to say it doesn't count and is suddenly just covered under catch rules. It doesn't matter in the end because Tate NEVER had any type of control.
thegoodthebadthedumb: OK fine. None of Jennings' body parts hit the ground before Tate's feet hit the ground. Therefore, Tate completed the pass before Jennings completed the interception.
CodeMonkey4Life: time to decide the game with a bizarre reffing mistake and hammer home the theme of this weeks NFL
Summoner101: Can't we all just agree that there were so many horrible calls against both teams throughout the night this game wasn't any true measure of which team would have actually won?
steamingpile: I have to ask, are you drunk? Do you even root for either team? I thought you were a west coast guy.
steamingpile: but the music city was not forward if anything it was just to the side but not forward.
steamingpile: Music City Miracle = bad call, clearly a forward pass.
davidphogan: If the Saints and Packers are smart, they'll kick off, and have someone of the other team set down the ball. Have a nice discussion at midfield about whatever for 15 minutes, then victory formation your way through the next three quarters.End the game a 0-0. At that point Vegas puts a hit out on Goodell, problem solved.
thegoodthebadthedumb: Am I the only one who sees Tate with both hands on the ball and both feet on the ground before Jennings' feet hit the ground?
ozarkmatt: Did I miss anything?
Incorrigible Astronaut: /Off to see if Kluwe's said anything
Sargun: tootse: Sargun: Talondel: Sargun: with two hands on the ball and it doesn't come out after he hits the ground, it's a simultaneous catch and Seattle ball.No, you're misstating the rule. "It's not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first & an opponent subsequently gains joint control." Note that the rule refers to 'control' not 'possession'. To establish possession a player needs control of the ball, to come down in bounds, and retain control through the catch. Jennings establishes control first. Even if Jennings and Tate both meet the definition of 'possession' at the end of the play, that's not what matters. What matters is who first had 'control'. Jennings clearly had control first. Tate puts his hands on it after Jennings has already pulled it in.Unfortunately the play isn't repeating over and over and over and over but I believe Tate has at least one hand on it the entire time, which is all that's necessary as you only need one hand for a catch.Even when you control it against the opponent's body! That is not control and therefore, not a catch...If one player has it more controlled than another, it still does not matter. The fact is that Tate had at least one hand on the ball the entire time (which is enough to establish that it was simultaneous), he put his second hand on the ball before the two hit the ground (I literally just saw it again on the replay), and neither player lost control 100%. And that's simultaneous possession, which favors Seattle.
robsul82: @TJLang70Got farked by the refs. Embarrassing. Thanks NFL2 minutes ago
VvonderJesus: This is going so bad, the XFL is trending on Twitter.
justtray: jook: To play devil's advocate:Jennings did NOT have clear possession before Tate's ugly mitts were wrapped around the ball (Jennings had only ONE FOOT down before Tate slipped his BOTH his hands in, grab it, and touch the ground with BOTH his feet).It's ugly, but frankly, blaming this on the replacement refs is crap. The "regular" refs could've easily called the same.THIS.Unless someone shows me the rule where the person who the ball hits first automatically has possession, the tie going to the receiver rule here is what is to blame. It was called as per the rules. The rule is just stupid.
Spaz-master: WORST CALL EVAR
born_yesterday: muck4doo: Sargun: muck4doo: Sargun: muck4doo: bartink: Isn't the rule that if both guys are possessing the ball, doesn't the receiver get the reception?The problem is, they didn't come up with it at the same time. I was hoping the hawks would win this, but that was bull.Again, as I've said, simultaneous catch rules require all three criteria of a catch to be made, and all three criteria involve going to the ground and maintaining possession; Tate had his hands on the ball before they hit the ground. By the letter of the rule, that was a touchdown.Bullshiat. Tate had his hand somewhere in the vicinity of the ball. I wanted the Hawks to win too, but, that is wrong. I don't care what team that is. GB got robbed.I'm a Saints fan; I have every reason to hate the replacement refs after this week's atrocious garbage, and I can't root for Seattle nor Pete Carroll after his stint at USC. I wasn't rooting for anyone to win this game. But by the letter of the rule, with two hands on the ball and it doesn't come out after he hits the ground, it's a simultaneous catch and Seattle ball.I'm just calling it like I see it.Tate didn't have both his hands on the ball when it came down. Jennings did.I wish I was an optometrist, cause there are a lot of potential customers in this thread.
Sargun: with two hands on the ball and it doesn't come out after he hits the ground, it's a simultaneous catch and Seattle ball.
VvonderJesus: Popcorn Johnny: Aren't all TD's reviewed? Why wasn't it overturned?Exactly.
Cheesehead_Dave: We need to set up a Kickstarter fund to pay McCarthy's fine once his press conference is over.
ongbok: I have seen way more blatant PI not called before on a hail mary.
born_yesterday: These refs should have to publicly apologize, then be executed and dumped into a shallow grave.Foot Locker doesn't deserve to suffer these farks.
eagles95: As a Packers fan...that was a shiatty PI call
Rapmaster2000: Ha ha fark you Goodell. How's that plan working out for you?
Harv72b: What happened to the traditional fourth time out in the second half?
Kenny B: Thankfully this clusterfark is over. Or is it?
RminusQ: He got the first down there. No question.
Foaming: That's PI in the SNF game.or OPIor Clippingmaybe Hooking
Di Atribe: Olympic Trolling Judge: Final Fantasy Football.Wait. Can this be a thing? I think it rolls much better than D&D football.
ClavellBCMI: There are only two things of importance that happen at Green Bay Packers home games that will hold the fan's attention:1. Professional tailgating with bratwurst as the pre-game food of choice.2. The game itself.Anything else is a distraction from 1 and 2 above.
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