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(ESPN)   Does Matt Flynn wish he were still sitting on the bench in Green Bay instead of Seattle? How badly will the scab potato refs herp their derp? It's the Green Bay Packers vs. the Seattle Seahawks on Monday Night Football, 8:30 PM on ESPN   ( espn.go.com) divider line
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2012-09-25 03:18:54 AM  

Harv72b: impaler: The rule in question is Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 5. It clearly states that if one player establishes control first, and another player subsequently establishes joint control before the catch is completed, it is not simultaneous possession and possession shall be given to the player who first controlled the ball. By every camera angle, Jennings established control prior to Tate. It does not matter who hit the ground first, it does not matter who got both feet down first, all that matters is that Jennings controlled it first and did not lose control at any point in the subsequent jostling. The call was wrong, and all the experts (and I do mean all the experts) are right about that.

That looks remarkably familiar.


It doesn't count since Tate wasn't the first one to control...
 
2012-09-25 03:19:39 AM  
If only there were a ref close enough to do this, we wouldn't even be talking about it:

i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-25 03:20:00 AM  

seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.


The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.
 
2012-09-25 03:22:23 AM  

Sabyen91: GreatGlavinsGhost: Olympic Trolling Judge: GreatGlavinsGhost: Thank you. Dear Commissioner cannot resign. Dear Commissioner cannot be fired. Dear Commissioner is Commissioner or life.

Why stop there? When he finally dies and his daughters take over, they may name him Eternal Commissioner and take a lower title.

If this is not settled before next Sunday, I expect to see (and hear) some very funny stuff about Dear Commissioner. Hopefully, during the games.

I won't be hearing anything during the games. This is the final straw.


Also: Are you ready to boycott some football? Steve Young claimed it's the only way to save football
 
2012-09-25 03:23:31 AM  

Harv72b: impaler: The rule in question is Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 5. It clearly states that if one player establishes control first, and another player subsequently establishes joint control before the catch is completed, it is not simultaneous possession and possession shall be given to the player who first controlled the ball. By every camera angle, Jennings established control prior to Tate. It does not matter who hit the ground first, it does not matter who got both feet down first, all that matters is that Jennings controlled it first and did not lose control at any point in the subsequent jostling. The call was wrong, and all the experts (and I do mean all the experts) are right about that.

That looks remarkably familiar.


It was the best brief explanation so far, IMO.

Good post.

To everyone else reading, I stole it from Harv72b.
 
2012-09-25 03:25:07 AM  
I am gonna pull this out again.

If ANYBODY has something to say that I am wrong about, I would love to hear it.

1) Ball thrown in the corner for a Hail Mary
2) Offensive WR pushes a Defensive back away from the play. Any kind of PI usually isn't called in a Hail Mary attempt, but if one was called here, NOBODY would complain.
3) Defensive player catches ball, wraps two hands around it and hugs it to his body.
4) As both players are going down, offensive player puts one hand on the ball - still hugged to the defense player's body
5) Players hit the ground and as the defensive player's ass hits the turf (thus making the play over), the offensive player puts his other hand on the ball.
6) Fight for the ball starts
7) Two refs appear and hover over the scene.
8) The defensive player ends up having the ball on his chest with the offensive player still having two hands on it
9) Refs look at each other, think they have the same idea, both put their hands up to make a call
10) One ref calls time stop. The other calls TD.
11) Chaos and bullshiat ensue
 
2012-09-25 03:26:25 AM  

Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.


The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.
 
2012-09-25 03:27:04 AM  

davidphogan: Sabyen91: GreatGlavinsGhost: Olympic Trolling Judge: GreatGlavinsGhost: Thank you. Dear Commissioner cannot resign. Dear Commissioner cannot be fired. Dear Commissioner is Commissioner or life.

Why stop there? When he finally dies and his daughters take over, they may name him Eternal Commissioner and take a lower title.

If this is not settled before next Sunday, I expect to see (and hear) some very funny stuff about Dear Commissioner. Hopefully, during the games.

I won't be hearing anything during the games. This is the final straw.

Also: Are you ready to boycott some football? Steve Young claimed it's the only way to save football


Steve Young's words were pretty darned spot on the last couple of weeks. Last week he said the NFL demand was too inelastic which I agreed with. Today he said the NFL is insulting both his and your intelligence. I am a Packer fan and I am boycotting. I don't know if I would be boycotting if it hadn't been the Packers. I think I would because I am an NFL fan first and foremost and the NFL isn't deserving of that right now.
 
2012-09-25 03:28:00 AM  

Sabyen91: Ok, maybe the first link wasn't right but are you suggesting I watch soccer? Awwww, hell no!


Try the "American Football" tab. ;)

impaler: To everyone else reading, I stole it from Harv72b.


There's no stealing on the internets!!!!

/Except on YouTube. And maybe bit torrents.
 
2012-09-25 03:28:22 AM  

seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.


The Seahawks dominated the first half and scored 7 points. If score is the only domination you understand there is no point in conversing.
 
2012-09-25 03:31:17 AM  

seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.


I don't think you are trolling, I think you are a homer.

So at least there's that.
 
2012-09-25 03:31:43 AM  

Harv72b: Sabyen91: Ok, maybe the first link wasn't right but are you suggesting I watch soccer? Awwww, hell no!

Try the "American Football" tab. ;)

impaler: To everyone else reading, I stole it from Harv72b.

There's no stealing on the internets!!!!

/Except on YouTube. And maybe bit torrents.


Ahh, I see. Streaming for no cash to the NFL. I still won't watch. It will hurt but I am too pissed at the NFL.

/Glad you weren't suggesting watching soccer.
 
2012-09-25 03:32:48 AM  

Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

The Seahawks dominated the first half and scored 7 points. If score is the only domination you understand there is no point in conversing.


A one score game is not domination by either team. A team that shuts another team out for a 3-0 win did not dominate. Nor did a team who only ever led by 5 and couldn't even move the ball forward to ice the game. They played much better in the 2md half, but let's not treat it like some kind of heroic performance.
 
2012-09-25 03:33:41 AM  

Sabyen91: Steve Young's words were pretty darned spot on the last couple of weeks. Last week he said the NFL demand was too inelastic which I agreed with. Today he said the NFL is insulting both his and your intelligence. I am a Packer fan and I am boycotting. I don't know if I would be boycotting if it hadn't been the Packers. I think I would because I am an NFL fan first and foremost and the NFL isn't deserving of that right now.


I skipped SNF last night and the first 58 minutes of this week. I just happened to walk through and almost choke on my beer it was such an epic NFaiL.
 
2012-09-25 03:35:20 AM  

seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.


I thought the Packers adjusted frustratingly well in the 2nd half although the no huddle bit them in the butt once or twice (pass into the dirt, what ho!). The calls were just all over the freaking map. The first half reffing was fine. Its like all the refs went and huffed paint during half time.
It is frustrating because I wanted to see a nice, definitive Seattle win to get them some props. Instead a good D showing turns into HURR REFS DERP.
 
2012-09-25 03:35:31 AM  

seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

The Seahawks dominated the first half and scored 7 points. If score is the only domination you understand there is no point in conversing.

A one score game is not domination by either team. A team that shuts another team out for a 3-0 win did not dominate. Nor did a team who only ever led by 5 and couldn't even move the ball forward to ice the game. They played much better in the 2md half, but let's not treat it like some kind of heroic performance.


The Packers were dominated in the first half. The Seahawks were dominated in the second half. Who is talking about heroic performances. The Seahawks deserved to lose that game because the scored fewer points than the Packers (at least in a world not populated by scabs).
 
2012-09-25 03:37:20 AM  

Plush_Cthulhu: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

I thought the Packers adjusted frustratingly well in the 2nd half although the no huddle bit them in the butt once or twice (pass into the dirt, what ho!). The calls were just all over the freaking map. The first half reffing was fine. Its like all the refs went and huffed paint during half time.
It is frustrating because I wanted to see a nice, definitive Seattle win to get them some props. Instead a good D showing turns into HURR REFS DERP.


The Seahawk defense is spectacular. I thought it was just homer talk when the Sea fans talked to 49er fans and told them not to count their chickens. I was WRONG!
 
2012-09-25 03:38:23 AM  

libranoelrose: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

I don't think you are trolling, I think you are a homer.

So at least there's that.


If you can tell me that the DPI call on 3rd down to continue GBs TD drive was legit, you don't know football. That was the worst reffed game of any sport that I've ever seen. But Ot was reffed horribly both ways and the Hawks benefited from the last bad call. It was a horrible call and the worst time and place to shiat the bed, buty point is that GB should never have had the lead because that drive ended outside FG range. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if you play it back the score never should have flipped in GBs favor.
 
2012-09-25 03:38:24 AM  

davidphogan: Sabyen91: Steve Young's words were pretty darned spot on the last couple of weeks. Last week he said the NFL demand was too inelastic which I agreed with. Today he said the NFL is insulting both his and your intelligence. I am a Packer fan and I am boycotting. I don't know if I would be boycotting if it hadn't been the Packers. I think I would because I am an NFL fan first and foremost and the NFL isn't deserving of that right now.

I skipped SNF last night and the first 58 minutes of this week. I just happened to walk through and almost choke on my beer it was such an epic NFaiL.


It is a joke. If this doesn't get the deal done Goodell needs to be ridden out of town on a rail.
 
2012-09-25 03:40:29 AM  

seumasokelly: libranoelrose: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

I don't think you are trolling, I think you are a homer.

So at least there's that.

If you can tell me that the DPI call on 3rd down to continue GBs TD drive was legit, you don't know football. That was the worst reffed game of any sport that I've ever seen. But Ot was reffed horribly both ways and the Hawks benefited from the last bad call. It was a horrible call and the worst time and place to shiat the bed, buty point is that GB should never have had the lead because that drive ended outside FG range. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if you play it back the score never should have flipped in GBs favor.


And the Packers should have had the ball on the interception which was called back on a bogus roughing call. This isn't about people merely complaining about bad calls, we are talking about the NFL not putting the best, or even second best people on the field. The hubris of the NFL is ruining the reputation of the shield.
 
2012-09-25 03:41:37 AM  

Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

The Seahawks dominated the first half and scored 7 points. If score is the only domination you understand there is no point in conversing.

A one score game is not domination by either team. A team that shuts another team out for a 3-0 win did not dominate. Nor did a team who only ever led by 5 and couldn't even move the ball forward to ice the game. They played much better in the 2md half, but let's not treat it like some kind of heroic performance.

The Packers were dominated in the first half. The Seahawks were dominated in the second half. Who is talking about heroic performances. The Seahawks deserved to lose that game because the scored fewer points than the Packers (at least in a world not populated by scabs).


GBs TD drive should have ended outside FG range. They never should have had the lead. The 3rd down DPI call was horseshiat, as were the 3 blatant non-called holding penalties on GB during that drive.
 
2012-09-25 03:43:10 AM  

Sabyen91: The Packers were dominated in the first half. The Seahawks were dominated in the second half. Who is talking about heroic performances. The Seahawks deserved to lose that game because the scored fewer points than the Packers (at least in a world not populated by scabs).


Maybe.

Maybe.

That's the biggest problem with these refs. You can't say for certain who deserves to win a given game, because you can't know how the teams would have played but for the bad calls. I think the Seahawks might have eked out a win. You obviously disagree. And if that question can't be settled to everyone's satisfaction on the field, why bother keeping score? Just have the teams go out there, run into each other for three hours, and send them home with paychecks and participation ribbons.
 
2012-09-25 03:43:41 AM  

Sabyen91: seumasokelly: libranoelrose: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

I don't think you are trolling, I think you are a homer.

So at least there's that.

If you can tell me that the DPI call on 3rd down to continue GBs TD drive was legit, you don't know football. That was the worst reffed game of any sport that I've ever seen. But Ot was reffed horribly both ways and the Hawks benefited from the last bad call. It was a horrible call and the worst time and place to shiat the bed, buty point is that GB should never have had the lead because that drive ended outside FG range. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if you play it back the score never should have flipped in GBs favor.

And the Packers should have had the ball on the interception which was called back on a bogus roughing call. This isn't about people merely complaining about bad calls, we are talking about the NFL not putting the best, or even second best people on the field. The hubris of the NFL is ruining the reputation of the shield.


That, I can agree with. It was a farce of a game. Worst I've ever seen from an officiating standpoint.
 
2012-09-25 03:44:11 AM  

seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

The Seahawks dominated the first half and scored 7 points. If score is the only domination you understand there is no point in conversing.

A one score game is not domination by either team. A team that shuts another team out for a 3-0 win did not dominate. Nor did a team who only ever led by 5 and couldn't even move the ball forward to ice the game. They played much better in the 2md half, but let's not treat it like some kind of heroic performance.

The Packers were dominated in the first half. The Seahawks were dominated in the second half. Who is talking about heroic performances. The Seahawks deserved to lose that game because the scored fewer points than the Packers (at least in a world not populated by scabs).

GBs TD drive should have ended outside FG range. They never should have had the lead. The 3rd down DPI call was horseshiat, as were the 3 blatant non-called holding penalties on GB during that drive.


And the Packers should have been within field goal range when it was 12-7. Also, the DPI should have been OPI against Rice. Again, it ISN'T about a couple of bad calls. It is about the game being decided by people that aren't qualified.
 
2012-09-25 03:45:26 AM  

seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: libranoelrose: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

I don't think you are trolling, I think you are a homer.

So at least there's that.

If you can tell me that the DPI call on 3rd down to continue GBs TD drive was legit, you don't know football. That was the worst reffed game of any sport that I've ever seen. But Ot was reffed horribly both ways and the Hawks benefited from the last bad call. It was a horrible call and the worst time and place to shiat the bed, buty point is that GB should never have had the lead because that drive ended outside FG range. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if you play it back the score never should have flipped in GBs favor.

And the Packers should have had the ball on the interception which was called back on a bogus roughing call. This isn't about people merely complaining about bad calls, we are talking about the NFL not putting the best, or even second best people on the field. The hubris of the NFL is ruining the reputation of the shield.

That, I can agree with. It was a farce of a game. Worst I've ever seen from an officiating standpoint.


I thought the Seahawks were tremendous. The defense is pretty damned awesome. None of these games mean a thing, though, when the refs are so damned atrocious.
 
2012-09-25 03:46:54 AM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: Sabyen91: The Packers were dominated in the first half. The Seahawks were dominated in the second half. Who is talking about heroic performances. The Seahawks deserved to lose that game because the scored fewer points than the Packers (at least in a world not populated by scabs).

Maybe.

Maybe.

That's the biggest problem with these refs. You can't say for certain who deserves to win a given game, because you can't know how the teams would have played but for the bad calls. I think the Seahawks might have eked out a win. You obviously disagree. And if that question can't be settled to everyone's satisfaction on the field, why bother keeping score? Just have the teams go out there, run into each other for three hours, and send them home with paychecks and participation ribbons.


I agree. There are SO many bad calls, missed calls. Also, there is zero rhythm. It didn't happen so much in this game but in other games refs are taking 5-10 minutes on obvious replay calls.
 
2012-09-25 03:48:41 AM  

libranoelrose: If only there were a ref close enough to do this, we wouldn't even be talking about it:

[i.imgur.com image 170x133]


Whats sad is that THIS is going to get ignored because it isnt BAD enough to get attention tomorrow.
 
2012-09-25 03:48:47 AM  

Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

The Seahawks dominated the first half and scored 7 points. If score is the only domination you understand there is no point in conversing.

A one score game is not domination by either team. A team that shuts another team out for a 3-0 win did not dominate. Nor did a team who only ever led by 5 and couldn't even move the ball forward to ice the game. They played much better in the 2md half, but let's not treat it like some kind of heroic performance.

The Packers were dominated in the first half. The Seahawks were dominated in the second half. Who is talking about heroic performances. The Seahawks deserved to lose that game because the scored fewer points than the Packers (at least in a world not populated by scabs).

GBs TD drive should have ended outside FG range. They never should have had the lead. The 3rd down DPI call was horseshiat, as were the 3 blatant non-called holding penalties on GB during that drive.

And the Packers should have been within field goal range when it was 12-7. Also, the DPI should have been OPI against Rice. Again, it ISN'T about a couple of bad calls. It is about the game being decided by people that aren't qualified.


I think a noncall would have been right on that Rice play. The defender has a handful of rice's jersey, which is why I think they threw the flag.

I'm just bothered by everyone claiming that GB deserved the win. They scored 12 points and gave up 9 sacks. Both scoring drives for each team at the end were extended by BS penalties/noncalls. Neither team played well enough to claim a right to the W, and the refs were downright terrible for the last 30 mins of gametime.
 
2012-09-25 03:50:15 AM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: That's the biggest problem with these refs. You can't say for certain who deserves to win a given game, because you can't know how the teams would have played but for the bad calls. I think the Seahawks might have eked out a win. You obviously disagree. And if that question can't be settled to everyone's satisfaction on the field, why bother keeping score?


THIS! THIS! THIS!


THIS!
 
2012-09-25 03:50:45 AM  

seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

The Seahawks dominated the first half and scored 7 points. If score is the only domination you understand there is no point in conversing.

A one score game is not domination by either team. A team that shuts another team out for a 3-0 win did not dominate. Nor did a team who only ever led by 5 and couldn't even move the ball forward to ice the game. They played much better in the 2md half, but let's not treat it like some kind of heroic performance.

The Packers were dominated in the first half. The Seahawks were dominated in the second half. Who is talking about heroic performances. The Seahawks deserved to lose that game because the scored fewer points than the Packers (at least in a world not populated by scabs).

GBs TD drive should have ended outside FG range. They never should have had the lead. The 3rd down DPI call was horseshiat, as were the 3 blatant non-called holding penalties on GB during that drive.

And the Packers should have been within field goal range when it was 12-7. Also, the DPI should have been OPI against Rice. Again, it ISN'T about a couple of bad calls. It is about the game being decided by people that aren't qualified.

I think a noncall would have been right on that R ...


They had an interception on the last play while they were winning. Of course they deserved to win.
 
2012-09-25 03:50:46 AM  

Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: libranoelrose: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

I don't think you are trolling, I think you are a homer.

So at least there's that.

If you can tell me that the DPI call on 3rd down to continue GBs TD drive was legit, you don't know football. That was the worst reffed game of any sport that I've ever seen. But Ot was reffed horribly both ways and the Hawks benefited from the last bad call. It was a horrible call and the worst time and place to shiat the bed, buty point is that GB should never have had the lead because that drive ended outside FG range. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if you play it back the score never should have flipped in GBs favor.

And the Packers should have had the ball on the interception which was called back on a bogus roughing call. This isn't about people merely complaining about bad calls, we are talking about the NFL not putting the best, or even second best people on the field. The hubris of the NFL is ruining the reputation of the shield.

That, I can agree with. It was a farce of a game. Worst I've ever seen from an officiating standpoint.

I thought the Seahawks were tremendous. The defense is pretty damned awesome. None of these games mean a thing, though, when the refs are so damned atrocious.


The Seahawks DEFENSE was tremendous for the first half. After that, lots of not-tremendous happened.
 
2012-09-25 03:51:53 AM  

seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

The Seahawks dominated the first half and scored 7 points. If score is the only domination you understand there is no point in conversing.

A one score game is not domination by either team. A team that shuts another team out for a 3-0 win did not dominate. Nor did a team who only ever led by 5 and couldn't even move the ball forward to ice the game. They played much better in the 2md half, but let's not treat it like some kind of heroic performance.

The Packers were dominated in the first half. The Seahawks were dominated in the second half. Who is talking about heroic performances. The Seahawks deserved to lose that game because the scored fewer points than the Packers (at least in a world not populated by scabs).

GBs TD drive should have ended outside FG range. They never should have had the lead. The 3rd down DPI call was horseshiat, as were the 3 blatant non-called holding penalties on GB during that drive.

And the Packers should have been within field goal range when it was 12-7. Also, the DPI should have been OPI against Rice. Again, it ISN'T about a couple of bad calls. It is about the game being decided by people that aren't qualified.

I think a noncall would have been right on that R ...


Well, see, they only scored nine points, but they only gave up SEVEN, so they deserve to win. And that is only if you ignore the fact that two plays before THAT touchdown the OLine tackled Clay Mathews on a third down completion in such a manner that the announcers stated "I dont know how you miss that". See, the FIRST touchdown shouldnt have happened either.
 
2012-09-25 03:52:28 AM  
okay, 12, not nine, sorry, its late.
 
2012-09-25 03:52:31 AM  

Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

The Seahawks dominated the first half and scored 7 points. If score is the only domination you understand there is no point in conversing.

A one score game is not domination by either team. A team that shuts another team out for a 3-0 win did not dominate. Nor did a team who only ever led by 5 and couldn't even move the ball forward to ice the game. They played much better in the 2md half, but let's not treat it like some kind of heroic performance.

The Packers were dominated in the first half. The Seahawks were dominated in the second half. Who is talking about heroic performances. The Seahawks deserved to lose that game because the scored fewer points than the Packers (at least in a world not populated by scabs).

GBs TD drive should have ended outside FG range. They never should have had the lead. The 3rd down DPI call was horseshiat, as were the 3 blatant non-called holding penalties on GB during that drive.

And the Packers should have been within field goal range when it was 12-7. Also, the DPI should have been OPI against Rice. Again, it ISN'T about a couple of bad calls. It is about the game being decided by people that aren't qualified.

I think a noncall would have been right on that R ...

They had an interception on the last play while they were winning. Of course they deserved to win.


How many times do I need to say that they NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAD THE LEAD. Their lead was just as artificial as the Hawks lead at the end of the game.
 
2012-09-25 03:52:54 AM  

seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: libranoelrose: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

I don't think you are trolling, I think you are a homer.

So at least there's that.

If you can tell me that the DPI call on 3rd down to continue GBs TD drive was legit, you don't know football. That was the worst reffed game of any sport that I've ever seen. But Ot was reffed horribly both ways and the Hawks benefited from the last bad call. It was a horrible call and the worst time and place to shiat the bed, buty point is that GB should never have had the lead because that drive ended outside FG range. Two wrongs don't make a right, but if you play it back the score never should have flipped in GBs favor.

And the Packers should have had the ball on the interception which was called back on a bogus roughing call. This isn't about people merely complaining about bad calls, we are talking about the NFL not putting the best, or even second best people on the field. The hubris of the NFL is ruining the reputation of the shield.

That, I can agree with. It was a farce of a game. Worst I've ever seen from an officiating standpoint.

I thought the Seahawks were tremendous. The defense is pretty damned awesome. None of these games mean a thing, though, when the refs are so damned atrocious.

The Seah ...


Don't short them. They were tremendous the second half too. This is a Packer team that has a great offense. They made GB grind it out for every yard and every point. Just because they didn't sack Rodgers 8 times in the second doesn't mean they didn't play really freaking well.
 
2012-09-25 03:54:00 AM  

seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

The Seahawks dominated the first half and scored 7 points. If score is the only domination you understand there is no point in conversing.

A one score game is not domination by either team. A team that shuts another team out for a 3-0 win did not dominate. Nor did a team who only ever led by 5 and couldn't even move the ball forward to ice the game. They played much better in the 2md half, but let's not treat it like some kind of heroic performance.

The Packers were dominated in the first half. The Seahawks were dominated in the second half. Who is talking about heroic performances. The Seahawks deserved to lose that game because the scored fewer points than the Packers (at least in a world not populated by scabs).

GBs TD drive should have ended outside FG range. They never should have had the lead. The 3rd down DPI call was horseshiat, as were the 3 blatant non-called holding penalties on GB during that drive.

And the Packers should have been within field goal range when it was 12-7. Also, the DPI should have been OPI against Rice. Again, it ISN'T about a couple of bad calls. It is about the game being decided by people that aren't qualified.

I think a noncall would h ...


You keep saying that as if it means something. Making the right call means the Packers win so they deserved to win. MD Jennings made a great play to win the game.
 
2012-09-25 03:55:12 AM  

seumasokelly: How many times do I need to say that they NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAD THE LEAD. Their lead was just as artificial as the Hawks lead at the end of the game.


The point is the reffing is so bad, you can't make that claim. At all!
 
2012-09-25 03:55:34 AM  

seumasokelly: The Seahawks DEFENSE was tremendous for the first half. After that, lots of not-tremendous happened.


Half time adjustments.
 
2012-09-25 03:56:33 AM  

Sabyen91: Making the right call means the Packers win so they deserved to win


The point is the reffing is so bad, you can't make that claim. At all!
 
2012-09-25 03:56:44 AM  

I sound fat: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

The Seahawks dominated the first half and scored 7 points. If score is the only domination you understand there is no point in conversing.

A one score game is not domination by either team. A team that shuts another team out for a 3-0 win did not dominate. Nor did a team who only ever led by 5 and couldn't even move the ball forward to ice the game. They played much better in the 2md half, but let's not treat it like some kind of heroic performance.

The Packers were dominated in the first half. The Seahawks were dominated in the second half. Who is talking about heroic performances. The Seahawks deserved to lose that game because the scored fewer points than the Packers (at least in a world not populated by scabs).

GBs TD drive should have ended outside FG range. They never should have had the lead. The 3rd down DPI call was horseshiat, as were the 3 blatant non-called holding penalties on GB during that drive.

And the Packers should have been within field goal range when it was 12-7. Also, the DPI should have been OPI against Rice. Again, it ISN'T about a couple of bad calls. It is about the game being decided by people that aren't qualified.

I think a noncall would have been right on that R ...

Well, see, they only scored nine points, but they only gave up SEVEN, so they deserve to win. And that is only if you ignore the fact that two plays before THAT touchdown the OLine tackled Clay Mathews on a third down completion in such a manner that the announcers stated "I dont know how you miss that". See, the FIRST touchdown shouldnt have happened either.


It was a run on that 3ed sown and you're right, that should've been called...and the Hawks would've had another shot because 3rd down would've been replayed. We can scrutinize each bad call til the cows come home, but the fact is that both teams did plenty to lose this game and the assertion that the packers earned a W with that performance is BS.
 
2012-09-25 03:56:53 AM  
Is anyone else's quotes getting cut off?
 
2012-09-25 03:57:12 AM  

impaler: seumasokelly: How many times do I need to say that they NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAD THE LEAD. Their lead was just as artificial as the Hawks lead at the end of the game.

The point is the reffing is so bad, you can't make that claim. At all!


The point is nobody has any idea who won that game. Sure the Packer sucked in the first half. So did the seahawks. The seahawks KEPT sucking in the second half, The pack not so much.

Hard to say, really.
 
2012-09-25 03:57:36 AM  

impaler: Sabyen91: Making the right call means the Packers win so they deserved to win

The point is the reffing is so bad, you can't make that claim. At all!


Well, for the final play of the game I can because MD made a game winning interception but you are right overall, of course.
 
2012-09-25 03:58:41 AM  

seumasokelly: We can scrutinize each bad call til the cows come home


How many calls during the game got two different judgements by the refs?
 
2012-09-25 03:59:41 AM  

libranoelrose: seumasokelly: We can scrutinize each bad call til the cows come home

How many calls during the game got two different judgements by the refs?


Ooo, ooo...one?
 
2012-09-25 04:00:28 AM  

Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: Sabyen91: seumasokelly: As a Seahawks fan, i'd just like to say: AHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

/sorry
//Pack gave up 9 sacks and only scored 12 pts.
///this was the most horribly officiated game ever - both ways - but the packers played like shiat...and so did the hawks.

The Packers made the proper adjustments and dominated the Seahawks in the second half. I am glad you can easily stomach winning while the NFL loses.

The packers scored 12 points in the second half. Hardly a domination. Domination generally includes scoring points and not settling for FGs. The last call screwed GB, but their TD drive only happened because of a bogus DPI call on 3rd down and 3 blatant holds on GB that went uncalled.

The Seahawks dominated the first half and scored 7 points. If score is the only domination you understand there is no point in conversing.

A one score game is not domination by either team. A team that shuts another team out for a 3-0 win did not dominate. Nor did a team who only ever led by 5 and couldn't even move the ball forward to ice the game. They played much better in the 2md half, but let's not treat it like some kind of heroic performance.

The Packers were dominated in the first half. The Seahawks were dominated in the second half. Who is talking about heroic performances. The Seahawks deserved to lose that game because the scored fewer points than the Packers (at least in a world not populated by scabs).

GBs TD drive should have ended outside FG range. They never should have had the lead. The 3rd down DPI call was horseshiat, as were the 3 blatant non-called holding penalties on GB during that drive.

And the Packers should have been within field goal range when it was 12-7. Also, the DPI should have been OPI against Rice. Again, it ISN'T about a couple of bad calls. It is about the game being decided by people that aren't qualified.

I think a noncall would h ...

You keep saying that as if it means something. Making the right call means the Packers win so they deserved to win. MD Jennings made a great play to win the game.


And that's total bs. Yes, o suppose you could magically pretend that the first 59:30 of the game never happened and say that the Seahawks didn't score 6 points there if it's called correctly, but GBs points were a result of poor calls and noncalls too. Neither team earned a win tonight.
 
2012-09-25 04:04:28 AM  

libranoelrose: seumasokelly: We can scrutinize each bad call til the cows come home

How many calls during the game got two different judgements by the refs?


The only call in which there was no penalty flag. But I guess not throwing a flag when another ref does doesn't fit your criteria. I suppose you could say that the Jennings TD catch qualifies since it was overturned.
 
2012-09-25 04:06:05 AM  

libranoelrose: Is anyone else's quotes getting cut off?


It happens after the quoted text reaches a certain length.
 
2012-09-25 04:06:23 AM  

libranoelrose: Is anyone else's quotes getting cut off?


There's a limit to how many characters can be quoted.

seumasokelly: And that's total bs. Yes, o suppose you could magically pretend that the first 59:30 of the game never happened and say that the Seahawks didn't score 6 points there if it's called correctly, but GBs points were a result of poor calls and noncalls too. Neither team earned a win tonight.


What does it say about the sorry state of the league that people are arguing over which bad call(s) affected the outcome of the game the most?
 
2012-09-25 04:06:33 AM  

I sound fat: impaler: seumasokelly: How many times do I need to say that they NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAD THE LEAD. Their lead was just as artificial as the Hawks lead at the end of the game.

The point is the reffing is so bad, you can't make that claim. At all!

The point is nobody has any idea who won that game. Sure the Packer sucked in the first half. So did the seahawks. The seahawks KEPT sucking in the second half, The pack not so much.

Hard to say, really.


I think the foray half was a function of both the Packers scheme and OL sucking as well as the Seahawks playing dominant D. The hawks offense did suck all night, though.
 
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