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2012-09-24 11:10:38 AM

Latinwolf: Flint Ironstag: digistil: Baelz: This is Apple hubris at its best, and exactly why I won't support them with my money. Apple wants to control the hardware, software, AND content and that last one is where I say fark no.

As has already been stated, they were essentially forced into this situation. This has nothing to do with them wanting to control your mapping application.

"Forced"? What stopped them just keeping Google Maps on the iPhone as it was?

I'm sure they feel "forced" because Google dared to make a mobile platform, Android that's a threat to their own mobile platform. They've made no secret that they'd love to be able to destroy Android and if they can't do it directly, they'll go after it indirectly hence the removal of Google maps, the removal of You Tube which is owned by Google. There's also that lawsuit against Samsung which used the Android platform. Had Samsung not been using a modified version of the Android platform, Apple would have gone after Google too and they are likely looking for any excuse to take Google to court.


Exactly my point. It was a commercial decision. They were not "forced" into dropping Google Maps. They could easily have kept it on the iPhone alongside their own navigation app and provided choice and better service to their users. They chose to screw their users for commercial reasons.
 
2012-09-24 11:10:47 AM

Masso: Whatever Apple does, I doubt it could match Google for at least years. The effort Google spent on building up those data is something very monumental.

 
2012-09-24 11:11:40 AM

Guelph35: The addition of spoken turn-by-turn directions that continue while allowing other apps to run more than makes up for any perceived loss in map quality.


All right. Welcome to 2010.
 
2012-09-24 11:12:03 AM

digistil: roflmaonow: You can't set the default app for anything in iOS.

Sure you can. You just need to jailbreak/root it like you would any other non-Nexus device.


I haven't rooted my One X, or my old Desire, and I could change the default apps on those.
 
2012-09-24 11:13:09 AM

MightyPez: NutznGum: I can't remember the last beta app that had primetime TV ad campaigns featuring celebrities. They spend a lot of money marketing a 'beta' app.

So the goalposts move from "They don't say it's a beta" to "They do, but they have commercials?"


No, I was just wrong. I went to their website and saw the little 'beta' tag by Siri - I didn't know they were officially calling it a beta app - I stand corrected. But they still do market a beta app pretty heavily and they don't mention it in the commercials.
 
2012-09-24 11:15:40 AM

Flint Ironstag: Latinwolf: Flint Ironstag: digistil: Baelz: This is Apple hubris at its best, and exactly why I won't support them with my money. Apple wants to control the hardware, software, AND content and that last one is where I say fark no.

As has already been stated, they were essentially forced into this situation. This has nothing to do with them wanting to control your mapping application.

"Forced"? What stopped them just keeping Google Maps on the iPhone as it was?

I'm sure they feel "forced" because Google dared to make a mobile platform, Android that's a threat to their own mobile platform. They've made no secret that they'd love to be able to destroy Android and if they can't do it directly, they'll go after it indirectly hence the removal of Google maps, the removal of You Tube which is owned by Google. There's also that lawsuit against Samsung which used the Android platform. Had Samsung not been using a modified version of the Android platform, Apple would have gone after Google too and they are likely looking for any excuse to take Google to court.

Exactly my point. It was a commercial decision. They were not "forced" into dropping Google Maps. They could easily have kept it on the iPhone alongside their own navigation app and provided choice and better service to their users. They chose to screw their users for commercial reasons.


You hit the nail on the head.

Apple could have looked out for its users and continued with google maps while developing their own side by side. However, Apple knew that if they kept google apps on their phone, users would default to use it, and make theirs look crappy. So the ditched em.

It also is part of the thermonuclear plan. Undermine Google and Android every chance they get. Apple has built an extremely loyal customer base of drones. They might have a shot at taking android down, but I think big business is going to rally their troops and spank Apple.
 
2012-09-24 11:16:17 AM

Masso: Whatever Apple does, I doubt it could match Google for at least years. The effort Google spent on building up those data is something very monumental.

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So far the problems with the actual map data seems to be that errors cropped up while trying to import and reconcile mapping data from multiple sources into one new database.

TomTom has offered to help fix the data import problems and Apple seems to be hiring away Google's people who have nearly a decade of experience.

We'll see how quickly they can fix the import problem and move on to fixing problems with the underlying data sets themselves.
 
2012-09-24 11:20:40 AM

NutznGum: No, I was just wrong. I went to their website and saw the little 'beta' tag by Siri - I didn't know they were officially calling it a beta app - I stand corrected. But they still do market a beta app pretty heavily and they don't mention it in the commercials.


More to the point, plenty of products have been advertised while still classified as beta. They don't always get televised commercials, but web ads and industry rags still count as being advertised. I happily use Google products, but many of them spent most of their life in beta form while still being pushed through ad channels.
 
2012-09-24 11:25:12 AM

bingethinker: Sounds like they're trying to fix their problems. Is that suddenly wrong? Oh, that's right, it's Apple Microsoft, so brainwashed iHater WINDOZE hater douchebags like you MUST complain about everything they do or don't do.


Fixed for the previous 20 years reality...

Welcome to the big leagues of supporting mass and masses of people. When you are a small hipster company, nobody cares when you fark up. When everybody uses your software, it is a bit more noticable.
 
2012-09-24 11:25:21 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: BullBearMS: Flint Ironstag: "Forced"? What stopped them just keeping Google Maps on the iPhone as it was?

Google provided free turn by turn navigation for Android but refused to do the same thing for iOS.

lulz....

"Waaaaaah! Google won't give it's competitors free stuff and now my phone can't guide me across the street without sending me to Panama! Waaaaah!"

You get a farkie, fanboy. You're hilarious and I will enjoy tweaking you in ever tech thread from now until ever because you're such a joke.


Take your best shot. I'll enjoy tweaking you right now.

Hey, did you notice that after two days of availability, Apple's new OS was installed on over 35% of all iOS devices?

As opposed to your retarded OS where after two months of availability only slightly more than 1% of devices have been upgraded to Jelly Bean?

Hell, after a year of availability, barely 16% have managed to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich.

Android plain old sucks. Most users can't even get an upgrade without being forced to buy a new device. What a fragmented shiatty mess.
 
2012-09-24 11:27:29 AM

Guelph35: GMaps had done the same thing to me several times (listing places in the wrong location or places that don't exist) but when it comes to Apple vs. Google people tend to have selective memories.


I actually had a really bad experience with just this when I tried to find a Verizon store near my work to preorder my girlfriend's iPhone. Using the Google Maps app (which, in these threads, was just the bee's knees), I was first directed to a non-existent store down a side street... which was actually just a service road to a high school sports field. The "store" was in the middle of the field. Abandoning that, I took the next closest store... which was an AT&T store. I was going to try the third, but the app informed me it could not provide directions, which means it was on a road that didn't actually exist or something.

Luckily, driving back to work, I found a Verizon store that the app didn't know existed.

I didn't curse Google's name for their mapping data not being perfect. It's wrong sometimes, and it's right most of the time.

Apple's mapping is obviously behind Google's, but I feel the same way about it. And given that Google couldn't allow them to use their data for turn-by-turn directions, I feel like the new maps app is an investment in increased functionality down the road. I might or might not still be using an Apple product by that point, but it won't be because of the maps either way.
 
2012-09-24 11:31:19 AM

Tellingthem: That is just how people are. You can do that for damn near everything. Sports teams, car companies, BBQ, everybody has a favorite of something and if you have a different one well you are wrong.

\it's pop!
\\Ford Sucks!
\\\Go Lions!
\\\\Dunkin' Donuts > Krispy Kreme
\\Android


Sure, and usually I attribute that kind of thing to insecure tribalism, too. It just amazes me that so many people who are ostensibly adults will wear that kind of thing on their sleeve.

Mind you, I'm not talking about people who are just fans of one thing or another, but people who feel the need to actively bash/get bothered by other people who aren't using the same thing. My rule of thumb is that if someone is really happy with whatever they're advocating, they'll generally also be pretty uninterested in what someone else does - it's the people who aren't happy with what they've got that are trying to make their choices seem better by slagging the "competition." It's just a really weird to me, like when I try to put myself into a person like that's shoes it just feels really creepy and uncomfortable trying to follow that thought process because of what it would mean about a person to actually feel that way.
 
2012-09-24 11:40:17 AM

BullBearMS: Vegan Meat Popsicle: BullBearMS: Flint Ironstag: "Forced"? What stopped them just keeping Google Maps on the iPhone as it was?

Google provided free turn by turn navigation for Android but refused to do the same thing for iOS.

lulz....

"Waaaaaah! Google won't give it's competitors free stuff and now my phone can't guide me across the street without sending me to Panama! Waaaaah!"

You get a farkie, fanboy. You're hilarious and I will enjoy tweaking you in ever tech thread from now until ever because you're such a joke.

Take your best shot. I'll enjoy tweaking you right now.

Hey, did you notice that after two days of availability, Apple's new OS was installed on over 35% of all iOS devices?

As opposed to your retarded OS where after two months of availability only slightly more than 1% of devices have been upgraded to Jelly Bean?

Hell, after a year of availability, barely 16% have managed to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich.

Android plain old sucks. Most users can't even get an upgrade without being forced to buy a new device. What a fragmented shiatty mess.


That's the fault of the OEM's. And it is a problem. Google said they were trying to address it but so far the fragmentation problem continues. That's the price of having lots of manufacturers using Android. Its still possible to get the newest android versions on a device that isn't officially supposed to have it. I have a Samsung Galaxy, the original one. Its only supposed to have gotten Gingerbread but I've had JB and ICS on it thanks to CyanogenMod. But Apple is starting to run into fragmentation issues as well, granted, not nearly as bad as Android.
 
2012-09-24 11:40:30 AM

burndtdan: I actually had a really bad experience with just this when I tried to find a Verizon store near my work to preorder my girlfriend's iPhone. Using the Google Maps app (which, in these threads, was just the bee's knees), I was first directed to a non-existent store down a side street... which was actually just a service road to a high school sports field. The "store" was in the middle of the field. Abandoning that, I took the next closest store... which was an AT&T store. I was going to try the third, but the app informed me it could not provide directions, which means it was on a road that didn't actually exist or something.

Luckily, driving back to work, I found a Verizon store that the app didn't know existed.


Did you know that when you ask Google for walking directions along the coast of Spain, it instructs you to walk on water?

dl.dropbox.com

Or that there are imaginary hotels in the middle of Airports?

dl.dropbox.com

However, if you want to use Google's maps, nobody is stopping you. They are still on the web.

But again, this is more about apple-hater butthurt after it came out that the new iPhone has been tested by PC Magazine and found to be the fastest smart phone on the market by a huge margin.

They have to have something to wharrgarbl about to try to distract people from that.
 
2012-09-24 11:42:41 AM

NutznGum: Its still possible to get the newest android versions on a device that isn't officially supposed to have it.


Yes, but then your warranty support goes out the window if something goes wrong.

The same thing is true if you choose to jailbreak your iOS device, however.
 
2012-09-24 11:50:33 AM

digistil: clancifer: Don't they test this shiat in advance of release?

From what I've read, it's basically a data problem no different than Bing's. User-collected data greatly increases accuracy. Bing won't get better until people start increasingly use it, and from what I've read, the same case is true for the new Apple Maps app.


Their problem is that previously Steven Jobs would have championed this change, telling their users that its important, and that the sooner they switch maps to Apple's the sooner it can start getting better because it requires users to get better.

Apple fans then can feel smug about the change. Now they don't get the opportunity to feel smug, they just feel cheated.
 
2012-09-24 11:50:41 AM

BullBearMS:

Did you know that when you ask Google for walking directions along the coast of Spain, it instructs you to walk on water?



You posted that in another thread and it was pointed out to you that the route advised you to take a passenger ferry, not "walk on water" and that that route is in fact seven hours quicker than walking the whole way. It clearly highlights "This route includes a ferry" at the top of the directions. It clearly suggests two other routes that do not include the ferry but take longer.

Maybe this explains why you like the iPhone so much. It makes things so simple and idiot proof that no one can cock them up...
 
2012-09-24 11:51:38 AM

BullBearMS: jpat: Is there a way to report inaccurate data?

Yup


Thanks! Just updated the location of my cousin's restaurant.

Now here's some BS. One of the coolest things Google just launched for New Orleans was incorporating bus routes. It would tell you when the next bus was coming. The Apple Maps gives you a link to the App store for apps that provide transit directions. Booo!

Summary:
Good news - free turn by turn directions that continue to run in the background.

Bad news - inconsistent data accuracy, no bus routes.

Neither has what I really want - bike routes.
 
2012-09-24 11:55:44 AM

Flint Ironstag: You posted that in another thread and it was pointed out to you that the route advised you to take a passenger ferry, not "walk on water" and that that route is in fact seven hours quicker than walking the whole way. It clearly highlights "This route includes a ferry" at the top of the directions. It clearly suggests two other routes that do not include the ferry but take longer.


As has been pointed out to you multiple times, this is what happens when you ask for walking directions.

Apparently neither you or Google understand what walking is.

When you ask for walking directions, the default route should not pass over water.
 
2012-09-24 11:58:20 AM

jpat: BullBearMS: jpat: Is there a way to report inaccurate data?

Yup

Thanks! Just updated the location of my cousin's restaurant.

Now here's some BS. One of the coolest things Google just launched for New Orleans was incorporating bus routes. It would tell you when the next bus was coming. The Apple Maps gives you a link to the App store for apps that provide transit directions. Booo!

Summary:
Good news - free turn by turn directions that continue to run in the background.

Bad news - inconsistent data accuracy, no bus routes.

Neither has what I really want - bike routes.


The Navigation on my One X gives cycling directions. I just checked it in my town and it happily uses cycle routes and footpaths I know about.
And the bus stop thing is great. Shows all bus stops and when you click on one it shows all the buses that stop there with the next three times for each bus.
 
2012-09-24 11:59:58 AM

BullBearMS: Flint Ironstag: You posted that in another thread and it was pointed out to you that the route advised you to take a passenger ferry, not "walk on water" and that that route is in fact seven hours quicker than walking the whole way. It clearly highlights "This route includes a ferry" at the top of the directions. It clearly suggests two other routes that do not include the ferry but take longer.

As has been pointed out to you multiple times, this is what happens when you ask for walking directions.

Apparently neither you or Google understand what walking is.

When you ask for walking directions, the default route should not pass over water.


Son, driving and walking direction from Manhattan to Staten Island include Ferry. Ferry is considered, for all purposes, part of the road.
 
2012-09-24 12:00:56 PM

jpat: Now here's some BS. One of the coolest things Google just launched for New Orleans was incorporating bus routes. It would tell you when the next bus was coming. The Apple Maps gives you a link to the App store for apps that provide transit directions. Booo!


You can still access Google's transit directions over the web.

jpat: Neither has what I really want - bike routes.


I've never used it, but bike routes are on Google's website too.
 
2012-09-24 12:01:39 PM

BullBearMS: Flint Ironstag: You posted that in another thread and it was pointed out to you that the route advised you to take a passenger ferry, not "walk on water" and that that route is in fact seven hours quicker than walking the whole way. It clearly highlights "This route includes a ferry" at the top of the directions. It clearly suggests two other routes that do not include the ferry but take longer.

As has been pointed out to you multiple times, this is what happens when you ask for walking directions.

Apparently neither you or Google understand what walking is.

When you ask for walking directions, the default route should not pass over water.


Why not? Again this is Android. Give users the choice and let them pick the one thy prefer. There are many places where the land route would be far, far longer than a short ferry trip. Why not give users the option?

I can understand why that's so hard to understand to someone used to the Apple way....
 
2012-09-24 12:05:24 PM

BullBearMS: Flint Ironstag: You posted that in another thread and it was pointed out to you that the route advised you to take a passenger ferry, not "walk on water" and that that route is in fact seven hours quicker than walking the whole way. It clearly highlights "This route includes a ferry" at the top of the directions. It clearly suggests two other routes that do not include the ferry but take longer.

As has been pointed out to you multiple times, this is what happens when you ask for walking directions.

Apparently neither you or Google understand what walking is.

When you ask for walking directions, the default route should not pass over water.


And this also doesn't explain why you lied by saying it tells you to "walk on water" when you admit you knew it was telling you to take a ferry.
 
2012-09-24 12:06:21 PM

Flint Ironstag: BullBearMS: Flint Ironstag: You posted that in another thread and it was pointed out to you that the route advised you to take a passenger ferry, not "walk on water" and that that route is in fact seven hours quicker than walking the whole way. It clearly highlights "This route includes a ferry" at the top of the directions. It clearly suggests two other routes that do not include the ferry but take longer.

As has been pointed out to you multiple times, this is what happens when you ask for walking directions.

Apparently neither you or Google understand what walking is.

When you ask for walking directions, the default route should not pass over water.

Why not? Again this is Android. Give users the choice and let them pick the one thy prefer. There are many places where the land route would be far, far longer than a short ferry trip. Why not give users the option?

I can understand why that's so hard to understand to someone used to the Apple way....


I'd go with Google on this one. If you want to walk (as in, you are not driving and don't have a bike) but want to get to the place, it's logical to show that you could take a ferry. If you don't want to take a ferry and just literally want to go for a long walk, then I'm pretty sure you could say to yourself "hey, that looks like a ferry" and keep walking along the shore. I'm not sure if it offers the non-ferry route as an alternative but either way it would figure it out eventually.
 
2012-09-24 12:07:55 PM

BullBearMS:
Did you know that when you ask Google for walking directions along the coast of Spain, it instructs you to walk on water?


It's an amusing bug and all but when is anyone going to need walking directions to a location over 250 miles away?
 
2012-09-24 12:11:57 PM

Masso: Son, driving and walking direction from Manhattan to Staten Island include Ferry. Ferry is considered, for all purposes, part of the road.


It's not (and should not be) included in the default route when you ask for walking directions.
 
2012-09-24 12:15:28 PM

Flint Ironstag: And this also doesn't explain why you lied by saying it tells you to "walk on water" when you admit you knew it was telling you to take a ferry.


Awww... Your butthurt is adorable.

When you ask for walking directions, the default route should never be over water.

This isn't particularly difficult to understand.

Hey, did everyone see that the iPhone 5's GPU is more than twice as powerful as that on the Galaxy S III?

Man. Android sucks for gaming.
 
2012-09-24 12:18:32 PM
What cracks me up is that years ago Apple users would say "we really don't care about the speed of the faster Intel chips, because the PPC does what we need it for, more efficiently, so mhz does not matter", are saying "now its the fastest smart phone ever." Same Apple user said Apple would not switch to Intel.

Benchmarks do not mean anything if both products can do the same thing in a reasonable time frame.
 
2012-09-24 12:20:01 PM

BullBearMS: Flint Ironstag: And this also doesn't explain why you lied by saying it tells you to "walk on water" when you admit you knew it was telling you to take a ferry.

Awww... Your butthurt is adorable.

When you ask for walking directions, the default route should never be over water.

This isn't particularly difficult to understand.

Hey, did everyone see that the iPhone 5's GPU is more than twice as powerful as that on the Galaxy S III?

Man. Android sucks for gaming.



Especially with the bigger screen.

cdn.itproportal.com
 
2012-09-24 12:24:24 PM

BullBearMS: Masso: Son, driving and walking direction from Manhattan to Staten Island include Ferry. Ferry is considered, for all purposes, part of the road.

It's not (and should not be) included in the default route when you ask for walking directions.


Why not? Do people never walk to ferry ports? It is an option. I know apple worshippers don't like those, the rest of us do.

Why didn't you respond to the correction on your lies iPhone 5 was 2x fast?
 
2012-09-24 12:25:45 PM

MyRandomName: BullBearMS: Masso: Son, driving and walking direction from Manhattan to Staten Island include Ferry. Ferry is considered, for all purposes, part of the road.

It's not (and should not be) included in the default route when you ask for walking directions.

Why not? Do people never walk to ferry ports? It is an option. I know apple worshippers don't like those, the rest of us do.

Why didn't you respond to the correction on your lies iPhone 5 was 2x fast?


Cnet was even called out on that lie as well.
 
2012-09-24 12:27:21 PM

theflatline: Benchmarks do not mean anything if both products can do the same thing in a reasonable time frame.


So Microsoft should halve the speed of XBox because graphics don't really matter in gaming?

No. No they shouldn't.

Android sucks for games. iPhone 5 absolutely destroys the entire Android lineup.

On one of the tests that utilizes modern gaming graphics routines, the Samsung Galaxy S III and the Motorolla RAZR M can only manage a pathetic 13 frames a second. Completely worthless.

Says PC Magazine: in the "offscreen" measure of raw graphics performance, the iPhone 5 doubles the Galaxy S III's result. It's simply a more powerful phone.
 
2012-09-24 12:30:37 PM

BullBearMS: Hell, after a year of availability, barely 16% have managed to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich.


Yet 100% of them don't guide you to the local crackhead six blocks away when all you want is a latte from across the street!
 
2012-09-24 12:31:11 PM

BullBearMS: Masso: Son, driving and walking direction from Manhattan to Staten Island include Ferry. Ferry is considered, for all purposes, part of the road.

It's not (and should not be) included in the default route when you ask for walking directions.


Why? What if a ferry is the only way? What if you want the quickest route?

So can you work out the walking route between Frederikshavn, Denmark and Gothenburg, Sweden?

Looks like several weeks walking or four hours taking a ferry. Let me think.....

Again, Google give you the choice. Clearly Apple users find the concept of choice confusing and scary.
 
2012-09-24 12:33:02 PM

theflatline: What cracks me up is that years ago Apple users would say "we really don't care about the speed of the faster Intel chips, because the PPC does what we need it for, more efficiently, so mhz does not matter", are saying "now its the fastest smart phone ever." Same Apple user said Apple would not switch to Intel.

Benchmarks do not mean anything if both products can do the same thing in a reasonable time frame.


They've done the same with apps as well. Mac users always dismissed that far greater choice of PC software as not important. But when the iPhone has more apps than Android? Suddenly it's a big deal.
 
2012-09-24 12:34:58 PM

Guelph35: I actually like the new software over the GMaps. The only issue I had was it placed an Applebees on the wrong side of the street, which is a minor inconvenience.
.


What a coincidence, someone who buys a trash phone also eats at trash restaurants..
 
2012-09-24 12:35:17 PM
Hey, did anyone hear that the Moto RAZR Maxx with it's huge extended battery can't quite manage to surf the web over LTE for five hours on a full charge?

dl.dropbox.com

Man. What complete and utter suckage.

Meanwhile, the iPhone 5 with it's much smaller and lighter form factor manages to brows the web over LTE an extra three hours despite it's web browser benchmarking as being nearly twice as fast.

Android sucks donkey balls so hard.

Did you hear that, Vegan Meat Popsicle?
 
2012-09-24 12:36:47 PM

BullBearMS: Flint Ironstag: And this also doesn't explain why you lied by saying it tells you to "walk on water" when you admit you knew it was telling you to take a ferry.

Awww... Your butthurt is adorable.

When you ask for walking directions, the default route should never be over water.

This isn't particularly difficult to understand.

Hey, did everyone see that the iPhone 5's GPU is more than twice as powerful as that on the Galaxy S III?

Man. Android sucks for gaming.


And I see you don't deny you lied....

You knew it was suggesting a ferry. But you used the dramatic, and false, "it tells you to walk on water!".
 
2012-09-24 12:40:55 PM
I'm just asking, so please don't strike me down with lightning.

The Galaxy S3 sounds like a great phone, but it looks too big to comfortably fit in a pants pocket: true or not?
 
2012-09-24 12:41:21 PM
BullBearMS: Vegan Meat Popsicle: BullBearMS: Flint Ironstag: "Forced"? What stopped them just keeping Google Maps on the iPhone as it was?

Google provided free turn by turn navigation for Android but refused to do the same thing for iOS.

lulz....

"Waaaaaah! Google won't give it's competitors free stuff and now my phone can't guide me across the street without sending me to Panama! Waaaaah!"

You get a farkie, fanboy. You're hilarious and I will enjoy tweaking you in ever tech thread from now until ever because you're such a joke.

Take your best shot. I'll enjoy tweaking you right now.

Hey, did you notice that after two days of availability, Apple's new OS was installed on over 35% of all iOS devices?

As opposed to your retarded OS where after two months of availability only slightly more than 1% of devices have been upgraded to Jelly Bean?

Hell, after a year of availability, barely 16% have managed to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich.

Android plain old sucks. Most users can't even get an upgrade without being forced to buy a new device. What a fragmented shiatty mess.


It's one thing to be a iFan (iDrone) but looking at all your posts in this thread, you're coming off looking more like a paid Apple employee.
 
2012-09-24 12:43:31 PM

theflatline: What cracks me up is that years ago Apple users would say "we really don't care about the speed of the faster Intel chips, because the PPC does what we need it for, more efficiently, so mhz does not matter", are saying "now its the fastest smart phone ever." Same Apple user said Apple would not switch to Intel.

Benchmarks do not mean anything if both products can do the same thing in a reasonable time frame.


Yeah, I never wait for my Android to be doing anything, so what do I care if the new iPhone is slightly faster? I can actually install anything I want on my phone without Apple Overlords telling me it is ok.
 
2012-09-24 12:47:25 PM

machoprogrammer: the new iPhone is slightly faster


Twice as fast is slightly faster?
 
2012-09-24 12:51:25 PM

mjohnson71: I'm just asking, so please don't strike me down with lightning.

The Galaxy S3 sounds like a great phone, but it looks too big to comfortably fit in a pants pocket: true or not?


For khaki's, regular jeans and cargo pants/shorts it's fine. Skinny jeans might be a problem.
 
2012-09-24 12:52:19 PM

Latinwolf: BullBearMS: Vegan Meat Popsicle: BullBearMS: Flint Ironstag: "Forced"? What stopped them just keeping Google Maps on the iPhone as it was?

Google provided free turn by turn navigation for Android but refused to do the same thing for iOS.

lulz....

"Waaaaaah! Google won't give it's competitors free stuff and now my phone can't guide me across the street without sending me to Panama! Waaaaah!"

You get a farkie, fanboy. You're hilarious and I will enjoy tweaking you in ever tech thread from now until ever because you're such a joke.

Take your best shot. I'll enjoy tweaking you right now.

Hey, did you notice that after two days of availability, Apple's new OS was installed on over 35% of all iOS devices?

As opposed to your retarded OS where after two months of availability only slightly more than 1% of devices have been upgraded to Jelly Bean?

Hell, after a year of availability, barely 16% have managed to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich.

Android plain old sucks. Most users can't even get an upgrade without being forced to buy a new device. What a fragmented shiatty mess.

It's one thing to be a iFan (iDrone) but looking at all your posts in this thread, you're coming off looking more like a paid Apple employee.


Or the ghost of Steve Jobs.
 
2012-09-24 12:54:45 PM

mjohnson71: I'm just asking, so please don't strike me down with lightning.

The Galaxy S3 sounds like a great phone, but it looks too big to comfortably fit in a pants pocket: true or not?


Mine fits in mine fine. It is quite slim and light, so you don't really notice it as much.
 
2012-09-24 12:54:48 PM

PluckYew: Latinwolf: BullBearMS: Vegan Meat Popsicle: BullBearMS: Flint Ironstag: "Forced"? What stopped them just keeping Google Maps on the iPhone as it was?

Google provided free turn by turn navigation for Android but refused to do the same thing for iOS.

lulz....

"Waaaaaah! Google won't give it's competitors free stuff and now my phone can't guide me across the street without sending me to Panama! Waaaaah!"

You get a farkie, fanboy. You're hilarious and I will enjoy tweaking you in ever tech thread from now until ever because you're such a joke.

Take your best shot. I'll enjoy tweaking you right now.

Hey, did you notice that after two days of availability, Apple's new OS was installed on over 35% of all iOS devices?

As opposed to your retarded OS where after two months of availability only slightly more than 1% of devices have been upgraded to Jelly Bean?

Hell, after a year of availability, barely 16% have managed to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich.

Android plain old sucks. Most users can't even get an upgrade without being forced to buy a new device. What a fragmented shiatty mess.

It's one thing to be a iFan (iDrone) but looking at all your posts in this thread, you're coming off looking more like a paid Apple employee.

Or the ghost of Steve Jobs.


Or I enjoy farking with weepy little fanboy assholes who tell me they are going to get me sooooo good.
 
2012-09-24 12:54:51 PM

Guelph35: The addition of spoken turn-by-turn directions that continue while allowing other apps to run more than makes up for any perceived loss in map quality.


uh, my 3-year-old Android could do that. WTF
 
2012-09-24 12:56:18 PM

mjohnson71: I'm just asking, so please don't strike me down with lightning.

The Galaxy S3 sounds like a great phone, but it looks too big to comfortably fit in a pants pocket: true or not?


I've only played with one at a retail joint, but the size seemed perfectly fine for normal pants pockets.
 
2012-09-24 12:56:43 PM

wingnut396: mjohnson71: I'm just asking, so please don't strike me down with lightning.

The Galaxy S3 sounds like a great phone, but it looks too big to comfortably fit in a pants pocket: true or not?

Mine fits in mine fine. It is quite slim and light, so you don't really notice it as much.


Actually, I know a chick who broke her screen when she squatted down with one in her jeans pocket.

They aren't compatible with skinny jeans. At all.
 
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