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2012-09-24 09:32:11 AM
Could be handy lighting the stove.
 
2012-09-24 09:35:57 AM
Neato.
 
2012-09-24 09:41:42 AM
Now *this* is true geekery.

/WANT
 
2012-09-24 10:06:12 AM
Forget the light-sabers and the blaster tech. We need to focus on what is important about the Star Wars Universe!

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We must perfect the metal bikini technology! We cant have a metal bikini gap!! ......wait, that doesnt sound right
 
2012-09-24 10:50:24 AM
You'll put your eye out, kid.
 
2012-09-24 11:10:37 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Forget the light-sabers and the blaster tech. We need to focus on what is important about the Star Wars Universe!

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We must perfect the metal bikini technology! We cant have a metal bikini gap!! ......wait, that doesnt sound right


I don't say this lightly, but you MIGHT be the best poster on this entire website.
 
2012-09-24 11:23:38 AM
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2012-09-24 11:35:24 AM
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid

Then we proceed to get shown by the rest of the movie, and its sequels and prequels, along with the Clone Wars series, just how 180 degrees wrong that statement is.

Apparently, hokey religions and ancient weapons *ARE* more than a good enough match for a good blaster. Hopefully, that only applies to galaxies far, far away.
 
2012-09-24 11:41:45 AM

Your Zionist Leader: I don't say this lightly, but you MIGHT be the best poster on this entire website.


Some love me, some hate me. The real fun is when you hate me in the Politics tab and love me everywhere else! I really wish they kept statistics on how many times a Farker is ignored and then un-ignored. I would rule that!

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/love being me!
 
2012-09-24 11:49:33 AM

dittybopper: Then we proceed to get shown by the rest of the movie, and its sequels and prequels, along with the Clone Wars series, just how 180 degrees wrong that statement is.

Apparently, hokey religions and ancient weapons *ARE* more than a good enough match for a good blaster. Hopefully, that only applies to galaxies far, far away.




Not really. If you remember the vast majority of Jedi were killed off by their clone troopers. I only know the movies but in the movies none of the troopers were force welders.
 
2012-09-24 11:56:12 AM

dittybopper: Apparently, hokey religions and ancient weapons *ARE* more than a good enough match for a good blaster. Hopefully, that only applies to galaxies far, far away.


Maybe none of them had a "good" blaster? There are a lot of storm troopers. They're probably issued mass produced, wallmart quality equipment.
 
2012-09-24 11:58:42 AM
Well if he's ever attacked by an army of balloons or matches, he'll be ready.
 
2012-09-24 12:11:15 PM
how long before someone blinds a pilot with one of these?
 
2012-09-24 12:11:27 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: dittybopper: Then we proceed to get shown by the rest of the movie, and its sequels and prequels, along with the Clone Wars series, just how 180 degrees wrong that statement is.

Apparently, hokey religions and ancient weapons *ARE* more than a good enough match for a good blaster. Hopefully, that only applies to galaxies far, far away.

Not really. If you remember the vast majority of Jedi were killed off by their clone troopers. I only know the movies but in the movies none of the troopers were force welders.


Yes, really.

Take a look at the Battle of Isandlwana: No one would argue that short spears are superior to breech loading firearms, but yet it happened that the Zulus completely overwhelmed and defeated the British. You can engineer the circumstances for a surprise attack that mitigates the superiority of the people you are attacking, if you are patient and careful enough, and that appears to be the case with Order 66.

Just because using the force and wielding a light saber is demonstrably a superior method to using a blaster doesn't mean you are immune to treachery and surprise attack by your own forces.
 
2012-09-24 12:16:38 PM
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C'mon, nobody?
 
2012-09-24 12:19:19 PM
Interesting. But how good is it against Ork attacks?

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2012-09-24 12:32:47 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Not really. If you remember the vast majority of Jedi were killed off by their clone troopers. I only know the movies but in the movies none of the troopers were force welders.


I just want to focus on this for a moment, because it amuses me.
 
2012-09-24 12:34:14 PM

offmymeds: Interesting. But how good is it against Ork attacks?


OI! DEMZ FANTAZEE ORCZ!
 
2012-09-24 12:38:08 PM
I'm not saying this will be my hackerspace's next project, but this WILL BE my hackerspace's next project.
 
2012-09-24 12:38:08 PM

abhorrent1: Well if he's ever attacked by an army of balloons or matches, he'll be ready.


Actually, 2 watts is getting into fairly powerful personal use range. That will burn skin or instantly blind anything whose eyes you shine it into.
 
2012-09-24 12:39:07 PM

Honest Bender: dittybopper: Apparently, hokey religions and ancient weapons *ARE* more than a good enough match for a good blaster. Hopefully, that only applies to galaxies far, far away.

Maybe none of them had a "good" blaster? There are a lot of storm troopers. They're probably issued mass produced, wallmart quality equipment.


What's with the Walmart hate?
 
2012-09-24 12:42:04 PM
This guy will be spirited away by guys in dark suits and end up working at DARPA.
 
2012-09-24 12:48:09 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: This guy will be spirited away by guys in dark suits and end up working at DARPA.


That's ultimately what every nerd hopes for.
 
2012-09-24 12:50:29 PM

Marine1: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: This guy will be spirited away by guys in dark suits and end up working at DARPA.

That's ultimately what every nerd hopes for.


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No, it isn't.
 
2012-09-24 12:51:36 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Honest Bender: dittybopper: Apparently, hokey religions and ancient weapons *ARE* more than a good enough match for a good blaster. Hopefully, that only applies to galaxies far, far away.

Maybe none of them had a "good" blaster? There are a lot of storm troopers. They're probably issued mass produced, wallmart quality equipment.

What's with the Walmart hate?


No hate. They just sell inferior products. Literally. They literally sell inferior versions of otherwise normal merch. Look it up.
 
2012-09-24 12:56:23 PM

Honest Bender: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Honest Bender: dittybopper: Apparently, hokey religions and ancient weapons *ARE* more than a good enough match for a good blaster. Hopefully, that only applies to galaxies far, far away.

Maybe none of them had a "good" blaster? There are a lot of storm troopers. They're probably issued mass produced, wallmart quality equipment.

What's with the Walmart hate?

No hate. They just sell inferior products. Literally. They literally sell inferior versions of otherwise normal merch. Look it up.


I literally looked up and didn't see anything but ceiling.
 
2012-09-24 12:56:55 PM
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid


What is the strongest weapon of mankind? The god-machines of the Adeptus Mechanicus? No! The Astartes Legions? No! The tank? The lasgun? The fist? Not at all! Courage and courage alone stands above them all!
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2012-09-24 12:58:26 PM

Honest Bender: dittybopper: Apparently, hokey religions and ancient weapons *ARE* more than a good enough match for a good blaster. Hopefully, that only applies to galaxies far, far away.

Maybe none of them had a "good" blaster? There are a lot of storm troopers. They're probably issued mass produced, wallmart quality equipment.


Nah, their blasters are fine, but Stormtroopers, being mooks, are trained in the Honorable Red Shirt Marksman academy.
 
2012-09-24 12:58:37 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: dittybopper: Then we proceed to get shown by the rest of the movie, and its sequels and prequels, along with the Clone Wars series, just how 180 degrees wrong that statement is.

Apparently, hokey religions and ancient weapons *ARE* more than a good enough match for a good blaster. Hopefully, that only applies to galaxies far, far away.



Not really. If you remember the vast majority of Jedi were killed off by their clone troopers. I only know the movies but in the movies none of the troopers were force welders.


Yes but I'm sure there were several clone troopers against one Jedi. A Jedi can only hold off a couple dozen blasters for so long.
 
2012-09-24 01:02:52 PM

dittybopper: Yes, really.

Take a look at the Battle of Isandlwana: No one would argue that short spears are superior to breech loading firearms, but yet it happened that the Zulus completely overwhelmed and defeated the British. You can engineer the circumstances for a surprise attack that mitigates the superiority of the people you are attacking, if you are patient and careful enough, and that appears to be the case with Order 66.

Just because using the force and wielding a light saber is demonstrably a superior method to using a blaster doesn't mean you are immune to treachery and surprise attack by your own forces



So the superiority of the weapon is not so great as to over come the treachery and surprise. So it may or may not be that great of a superiority? I dare say it is not that impressive. Jango Fett took on two Jedi and got away clean. But it didn't work out so well for him the second time around but there was an army of Jedi that time.

Also, how in tune with the force are you when everyone around you wants you dead and you get surprised?

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Laughs at your Force powers. One person on a space station wanted to try to kill him he knew it! And he was on another ship that wasn't even docked with the station yet.
 
2012-09-24 01:07:48 PM

dittybopper: The Stealth Hippopotamus: dittybopper: Then we proceed to get shown by the rest of the movie, and its sequels and prequels, along with the Clone Wars series, just how 180 degrees wrong that statement is.

Apparently, hokey religions and ancient weapons *ARE* more than a good enough match for a good blaster. Hopefully, that only applies to galaxies far, far away.

Not really. If you remember the vast majority of Jedi were killed off by their clone troopers. I only know the movies but in the movies none of the troopers were force welders.

Yes, really.

Take a look at the Battle of Isandlwana: No one would argue that short spears are superior to breech loading firearms, but yet it happened that the Zulus completely overwhelmed and defeated the British. You can engineer the circumstances for a surprise attack that mitigates the superiority of the people you are attacking, if you are patient and careful enough, and that appears to be the case with Order 66.

Just because using the force and wielding a light saber is demonstrably a superior method to using a blaster doesn't mean you are immune to treachery and surprise attack by your own forces.


Luke only succeeded against Jabba by treachery and surprise. Several inside men, plus turning out to turn an execution into a battle.
 
2012-09-24 01:21:32 PM

child_god: What's with the Walmart hate?

No hate. They just sell inferior products. Literally. They literally sell inferior versions of otherwise normal merch. Look it up.

I literally looked up and didn't see anything but ceiling.


Simon didn't say literally look up...
 
2012-09-24 01:21:36 PM

CygnusDarius: Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid


What is the strongest weapon of mankind? The god-machines of the Adeptus Mechanicus? No! The Astartes Legions? No! The tank? The lasgun? The fist? Not at all! Courage and courage alone stands above them all!
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Gotta love the Imperial Guard!
 
2012-09-24 01:32:06 PM

Honest Bender: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Honest Bender: dittybopper: Apparently, hokey religions and ancient weapons *ARE* more than a good enough match for a good blaster. Hopefully, that only applies to galaxies far, far away.

Maybe none of them had a "good" blaster? There are a lot of storm troopers. They're probably issued mass produced, wallmart quality equipment.

What's with the Walmart hate?

No hate. They just sell inferior products. Literally. They literally sell inferior versions of otherwise normal merch. Look it up.


For the amount spent - compared to, say, Nordstrom - I'm pretty sure I'm getting a better deal in terms of utility and product life.
 
2012-09-24 01:35:33 PM

Honest Bender: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Honest Bender: dittybopper: Apparently, hokey religions and ancient weapons *ARE* more than a good enough match for a good blaster. Hopefully, that only applies to galaxies far, far away.

Maybe none of them had a "good" blaster? There are a lot of storm troopers. They're probably issued mass produced, wallmart quality equipment.

What's with the Walmart hate?

No hate. They just sell inferior products. Literally. They literally sell inferior versions of otherwise normal merch. Look it up.


Oh, BTW: I should not have to "look it up." YOU are making the positive claim (that there is evidence that Walmart products are inferior); it is up to YOU to look it up and cite YOUR references.

Jesus, I really do love Fark. Nowhere else in the known universe is there a greater collection of logic-deficient dopes.
 
2012-09-24 01:36:23 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Honest Bender: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Honest Bender: dittybopper: Apparently, hokey religions and ancient weapons *ARE* more than a good enough match for a good blaster. Hopefully, that only applies to galaxies far, far away.

Maybe none of them had a "good" blaster? There are a lot of storm troopers. They're probably issued mass produced, wallmart quality equipment.

What's with the Walmart hate?

No hate. They just sell inferior products. Literally. They literally sell inferior versions of otherwise normal merch. Look it up.

For the amount spent - compared to, say, Nordstrom - I'm pretty sure I'm getting a better deal in terms of utility and product life.


I'd disagree.
 
2012-09-24 01:59:47 PM

Fano: Luke only succeeded against Jabba by treachery and surprise. Several inside men, plus turning out to turn an execution into a battle.


Not really several inside men, just *ONE* (Lando), plus a single droid to hold a spare light saber.

But that just goes to prove my point that a surprise attack can overwhelm a superior foe, regardless of technology.
 
2012-09-24 02:04:42 PM

CygnusDarius: Nah, their blasters are fine, but Stormtroopers, being mooks, are trained in the Honorable Red Shirt Marksman academy.


...these blast points, too accurate for Sandpeople. Only Imperial stormtroopers are so precise.
 
2012-09-24 02:12:16 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Honest Bender: dittybopper: Apparently, hokey religions and ancient weapons *ARE* more than a good enough match for a good blaster. Hopefully, that only applies to galaxies far, far away.

Maybe none of them had a "good" blaster? There are a lot of storm troopers. They're probably issued mass produced, wallmart quality equipment.

What's with the Walmart hate?



Go to the hunting section of your Wal-Mart sometime. That's the area with the guns. Have the qualified, licensed associate/manager in that department take apart in front of you, a Remington-brand pump shotgun, a Mossberg-brand pump shotgun and one of the cheap Wal-Mart-brand pump shotguns. If they're any good at their job, they'll automatically know which is which and will cheerfully do this for you to explain the problem.

When it's apart, look inside. The cheap Wal-Mart brand shotgun will have loopy welding arcs all over the inside. The Remington and Mossberg shotguns do not. Quality firearms are not supposed to have welding arcs or defects like these. The Wal-Mart brand shotgun is unsafe for use and could eventually break in your hands.

Never buy Wal-Mart brand firearms. If the hunting associate/manager is any good at their job, they will recommend something else for your purchase.
 
2012-09-24 02:17:05 PM

dittybopper: Fano: Luke only succeeded against Jabba by treachery and surprise. Several inside men, plus turning out to turn an execution into a battle.

Not really several inside men, just *ONE* (Lando), plus a single droid to hold a spare light saber.

But that just goes to prove my point that a surprise attack can overwhelm a superior foe, regardless of technology.


..and Leia killing Jabba, adding to the confusion. No question surprise wins, but Jedi don't necessarily win against more dakka, they are a force multiplier. OT everyone was remarkably not @ nigh unstoppable, blocking infinite blaster attacks or anything.
 
2012-09-24 02:23:44 PM

dittybopper: CygnusDarius: Nah, their blasters are fine, but Stormtroopers, being mooks, are trained in the Honorable Red Shirt Marksman academy.

...these blast points, too accurate for Sandpeople. Only Imperial stormtroopers are so precise.


And yet in episode four, during Leia's prison escape, the stormtroopers managed to shoot... No one.
 
2012-09-24 02:26:13 PM

Valarius: one of the cheap Wal-Mart-brand pump shotguns.


Wal*Mart doesn't brand guns. Or stated better, you may be talking about the Maverick or whatever the bargain-basement shotgun they sell happens to be, but you won't find a gun stamped "Wal*Mart" on the barrel.

/the Maverick is a re-branded Mossberg.
 
2012-09-24 02:28:13 PM

CygnusDarius: dittybopper: CygnusDarius: Nah, their blasters are fine, but Stormtroopers, being mooks, are trained in the Honorable Red Shirt Marksman academy.

...these blast points, too accurate for Sandpeople. Only Imperial stormtroopers are so precise.

And yet in episode four, during Leia's prison escape, the stormtroopers managed to shoot... No one.


Yet more proof that Obi-Wan was a lying asshole.
 
2012-09-24 02:29:44 PM

CygnusDarius: dittybopper: CygnusDarius: Nah, their blasters are fine, but Stormtroopers, being mooks, are trained in the Honorable Red Shirt Marksman academy.

...these blast points, too accurate for Sandpeople. Only Imperial stormtroopers are so precise.

And yet in episode four, during Leia's prison escape, the stormtroopers managed to shoot... No one.


Heroes can't get hit by mook fire! It's part of the guild rules. They are free, howeffer, to mow down rebel mooks by the bucketload, which they typically do. Also, it was an elaborate ruse to find out the location of the rebel base on Yavin IV
 
2012-09-24 02:48:00 PM

dittybopper: Valarius: one of the cheap Wal-Mart-brand pump shotguns.

Wal*Mart doesn't brand guns. Or stated better, you may be talking about the Maverick or whatever the bargain-basement shotgun they sell happens to be, but you won't find a gun stamped "Wal*Mart" on the barrel.

/the Maverick is a re-branded Mossberg.



Let's not confuse the issue here. The Mossberg Maverick is still a Mossberg. Whatever Remington makes will still be a Remington. Those are still guns you can safely use.

Wal-Mart brands are Charles Daly, New England Firearms or any other company that is NOT Remington and Mossberg.

For simplicity's sake, do NOT buy any gun from Wal-Mart. Just go to a reputable firearms dealer instead, somewhere else.
 
2012-09-24 02:50:42 PM

Fano: Also, it was an elaborate ruse to find out the location of the rebel base on Yavin IV


Oh, I like that.....
 
2012-09-24 03:17:31 PM

dittybopper: CygnusDarius: dittybopper: CygnusDarius: Nah, their blasters are fine, but Stormtroopers, being mooks, are trained in the Honorable Red Shirt Marksman academy.

...these blast points, too accurate for Sandpeople. Only Imperial stormtroopers are so precise.

And yet in episode four, during Leia's prison escape, the stormtroopers managed to shoot... No one.

Yet more proof that Obi-Wan was a lying asshole.


Whatisname, with the Imperial Trooper podcast claimed 'Of course the Stormtroopers missed, the whole idea was to let the prisoners escape and follow them back to the rebel base!"
 
2012-09-24 03:34:50 PM
Upon reading this, I realize I have utterly wasted my life.
 
2012-09-24 04:01:02 PM

Valarius: Wal-Mart brands are Charles Daly, New England Firearms or any other company that is NOT Remington and Mossberg.


LOLWUT?

NEF has been around since long before Wal*Mart. In fact, it's a rebranded Harrington & Richardson.

I don't have any experience with Charles Daly firearms, so I can't pass judgement there.
 
2012-09-24 04:05:36 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: dittybopper: CygnusDarius: dittybopper: CygnusDarius: Nah, their blasters are fine, but Stormtroopers, being mooks, are trained in the Honorable Red Shirt Marksman academy.

...these blast points, too accurate for Sandpeople. Only Imperial stormtroopers are so precise.

And yet in episode four, during Leia's prison escape, the stormtroopers managed to shoot... No one.

Yet more proof that Obi-Wan was a lying asshole.

Whatisname, with the Imperial Trooper podcast claimed 'Of course the Stormtroopers missed, the whole idea was to let the prisoners escape and follow them back to the rebel base!"


Yes, because even the lowliest private would have been ordered to miss. Hell, half the station was probably unaware that anything was going on: Witness the stormtroopers discussing the alert:

Stormtrooper: Do you know what's going on?
Other stormtrooper: Maybe it's another drill.


Doesn't sound like they know what's going on, much less having been told that a kid, an old man, a smuggler, a wookiee, a princess, and two droids are trying to escape, but don't hit them.
 
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