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(Reuters)   Wal-Mart looks to fill 50,000 new seasonal jobs. Difficulty: By hiring 5,000 Americans   (reuters.com) divider line 129
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2012-09-24 06:36:54 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: mcreadyblue: dittybopper: meanmutton: There really aren't all that many IT workers floating around. It's hard to find people even for entry-level positions.

This. Despite the very, very crappy economy, my IT department tried to hire a new programmer a few months ago. We got precisely five resumes for the position, three of whom were grossly unqualified, and two of whom were acceptable. We offered the job to one of them, but they took a somewhat better paying position elsewhere. We had to go with our second choice, who has worked out quite nicely, btw.

Apparently, IT unemployment is around 3.8%.

I know what you mean. My company has been trying to hire in a Unix/Linux sys admin that also know C++ and can handle being an Oracle DBA on the side along with being a Sharepoint Admin and running our PCI audits

On call is only 24/7.

Can't find anyone with at least a Master's degree to apply.

We even bumped the pay up to $24k/yr.

And they also need to speak fluent Spanish and Mandarin.


And have 10 years experience with the iPhone
 
2012-09-24 07:06:13 PM

Dokushin: It is your supposition -- your own untrained opinion -- that it is "destroying their own economic system." What you are talking about is exactly this: you want to tell people what to do because you think you know what's better for them. Your excuses for doing so? You don't like Wal-Mart because they're successful.

Explain to me why Wal-Mart is so successful (as enumerated in your list) if it's such a huge disaster. Why do people shop there?


WalMart is so big that it is able to manipulate the market in the way that Microsoft or Ma Bell did - except their market is all consumer goods.

People shop there because it's cheap. It's so cheap because they abuse everyone they deal with. They're aggressively evil, even by American corporate standards.
 
2012-09-24 07:37:43 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Lost Thought 00: If Obama cared about the economy, he'd pass a law banning Walmart from this country, and hang their executives for treason

So he would usurp the power of Congress, pass a law he wrote himself violating established law, redefine treason, and kill a bunch of people without a trial? Yeah, that'll work.


Why not, Cheney did.
 
2012-09-24 08:39:18 PM

DownDaRiver: Pay is absolute minimum they believe will keep people working there.


That's true of every job. Even very high paying jobs.
 
hej
2012-09-24 08:45:35 PM

dittybopper:
They didn't hit "Add Comment", DownDaRiver's body hit it as he/she slumped over the keyboard. The Wal*Mart operatives were then left with a problem: How to discredit DDR. So one of them wrote a plausible, but slightly over-the-top narrative off the cuff while the others were disposing of DDR's mortal remains and cleaning up the crime scene.
[...]


who-is-awesome.com
 
2012-09-24 09:10:01 PM

nmemkha: What are we going to do when (now that) there are more people than jobs? How are going to address the ever forward march to increase productivity until only a tiny few are needed to run the machine.

What's going to happen everyone else?


Humanely put to sleep
 
2012-09-24 09:18:20 PM

wildcardjack: LouDobbsAwaaaay: Lost Thought 00: If Obama cared about the economy, he'd pass a law banning Walmart from this country, and hang their executives for treason

So he would usurp the power of Congress, pass a law he wrote himself violating established law, redefine treason, and kill a bunch of people without a trial? Yeah, that'll work.

Why not, Cheney did.


thissortofthing.com
 
2012-09-24 09:19:03 PM

DrPainMD: DownDaRiver: Pay is absolute minimum they believe will keep people working there.

That's true of every job. Even very high paying jobs.


Pretty much this.

If you are going for a job at WallyWorld you are competing with all the other people who want a job there. Why should they pay you more than the other guy who willing to take to do the same work.

It takes about 5 days to train you to do the work which for a lot of staff means 'pick this up and put it over there'. It's almost to the point where a nutless monkey could do the work. Well, except for the fact that they shiat all over the place , boy was that a failed experiment.
 
2012-09-24 09:20:31 PM

nmemkha: What are we going to do when (now that) there are more people than jobs? How are going to address the ever forward march to increase productivity until only a tiny few are needed to run the machine.

What's going to happen everyone else?


I've pondered on this one myself for the last few years- not a Luddite, but I can see where technology has taken over the need for the human component. Maybe the time to downsize on humanity is now? We don't have to kill someone but cuttng back on our reproductive skills a bit may help. That and start heeding and respecting Darwin's call. When he says it's time to go, then it's time to go.
 
2012-09-24 09:29:59 PM

CujoQuarrel: Why should they pay you more than the other guy who willing to take to do the same work.


A living wage is necessary for a healthy consumer, and health consumers are necessary for a healthy economy. Even aside from that, I don't think a business as large and profitable as Wal-Mart should be able to use public assistance to subsidize its workforce.
 
2012-09-24 09:35:56 PM

moefuggenbrew: Making minimum wage, part time, you cannot afford housing and food without government assistance. Even slave masters provided food and sleeping quarters.

Being a slave would obviously suck more. But how far away from slavery are these people? It's almost as if hundreds of thousands of American workers are slaves to their wage, if only there were a term I could use to describe it without being called a communist.


IIRC, some Southern apologists for slavery criticized the sweat-shops and wage-slavery that was common in the industrialized North.

/ wonders what the end-game will be, in regards to labor in the US
// glad my employer is practically the opposite of Wal-Mart
 
2012-09-24 09:57:00 PM

Lost Thought 00: If Obama cared about the economy, he'd pass a law banning Walmart from this country, and hang their executives for treason


So it's obvious he does NOT care about the economy?
 
2012-09-24 10:01:34 PM

Sergeant Grumbles: CujoQuarrel: Why should they pay you more than the other guy who willing to take to do the same work.

A living wage is necessary for a healthy consumer, and health consumers are necessary for a healthy economy. Even aside from that, I don't think a business as large and profitable as Wal-Mart should be able to use public assistance to subsidize its workforce.


THIS.

Costco pays nearly double what Walmart pays and manages good customer services, quality products, reasonable prices, and manages to be very profitable, so no one can say it isn't possible.
 
2012-09-24 10:41:17 PM
I do internet work and I have to train. I know that if some one will do the work for less, they will get the work. Glad I am retired on a pension, so I am doing it for gas money for fishing trips.
 
2012-09-24 10:45:50 PM

GBmanNC: Sergeant Grumbles: CujoQuarrel: Why should they pay you more than the other guy who willing to take to do the same work.

A living wage is necessary for a healthy consumer, and health consumers are necessary for a healthy economy. Even aside from that, I don't think a business as large and profitable as Wal-Mart should be able to use public assistance to subsidize its workforce.

THIS.

Costco pays nearly double what Walmart pays and manages good customer services, quality products, reasonable prices, and manages to be very profitable, so no one can say it isn't possible.


Costco breaks even on selling merchandise.

Their only profit comes from membership fees.
 
2012-09-24 10:46:21 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: And employees demand the absolute maximum they believe they can get a company to pay.


LOLNo. Employees don't demand any kind of pay, for fear they are fired.
 
2012-09-24 11:12:52 PM

bojon: I do internet work and I have to train. I know that if some one will do the work for less, they will get the work. Glad I am retired on a pension, so I am doing it for gas money for fishing trips.


Stop undercutting everyone who needs the work to make a living.
 
2012-09-25 04:09:02 AM

DownDaRiver: 9 days of pay. Bought me enough booze to last for the holidays.


What are you, an 80 lb Asian chick?
 
2012-09-25 07:02:30 AM

mcreadyblue: Costco breaks even on selling merchandise. Their only profit comes from membership fees.


That's a hell of a stupid talking point making the rounds. Both are revenue. Revenue is revenue. They may use the sales revenue as a baseline for their operating costs (which would indeed result in 100% of their profit coming from membership fees), but then it's by design, not some indication of a flawed business model. The customers get access to the lower costs by paying the membership fees in the first place. Any accountant could just as easily tie the labor costs to the membership fees and conclude they hemorrhage money on it while they make all their profit in sales. But accountants probably wouldn't do that because they're not as stupid. They audit your revenues and expenses and see where you're at in the end, and in the end, Costco is a profitable company that pays its employees well.
 
2012-09-25 07:42:35 AM
Is that so they can sell all the iPhones?
 
2012-09-25 08:52:46 AM

bojon: I do internet work and I have to train. I know that if some one will do the work for less, they will get the work. Glad I am retired on a pension, so I am doing it for gas money for fishing trips.


Congratulations.
You are the domestic equivalent of an Indian or Mexican worker who takes American jobs.
 
2012-09-25 10:08:56 AM

bojon: I do internet work and I have to train. I know that if some one will do the work for less, they will get the work. Glad I am retired on a pension, so I am doing it for gas money for fishing trips.


Got mine, screw you?
 
2012-09-25 01:38:30 PM

dragonchild: mcreadyblue: Costco breaks even on selling merchandise. Their only profit comes from membership fees.

That's a hell of a stupid talking point making the rounds. Both are revenue. Revenue is revenue. They may use the sales revenue as a baseline for their operating costs (which would indeed result in 100% of their profit coming from membership fees), but then it's by design, not some indication of a flawed business model. The customers get access to the lower costs by paying the membership fees in the first place. Any accountant could just as easily tie the labor costs to the membership fees and conclude they hemorrhage money on it while they make all their profit in sales. But accountants probably wouldn't do that because they're not as stupid. They audit your revenues and expenses and see where you're at in the end, and in the end, Costco is a profitable company that pays its employees well.


...that charges a membership fee to shop there. Therefore, it has about nothing to do with Wal-Mart, unless you're suggesting Wal-Mart begin charging $50/yr.
 
2012-09-25 01:39:35 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: bojon: I do internet work and I have to train. I know that if some one will do the work for less, they will get the work. Glad I am retired on a pension, so I am doing it for gas money for fishing trips.

Congratulations.
You are the domestic equivalent of an Indian or Mexican worker who takes American jobs.


This just in: commerce conducted over the internet isn't 'Murican!
 
2012-09-25 01:41:35 PM

you have pee hands: Dokushin: It is your supposition -- your own untrained opinion -- that it is "destroying their own economic system." What you are talking about is exactly this: you want to tell people what to do because you think you know what's better for them. Your excuses for doing so? You don't like Wal-Mart because they're successful.

Explain to me why Wal-Mart is so successful (as enumerated in your list) if it's such a huge disaster. Why do people shop there?

WalMart is so big that it is able to manipulate the market in the way that Microsoft or Ma Bell did - except their market is all consumer goods.

People shop there because it's cheap. It's so cheap because they abuse everyone they deal with. They're aggressively evil, even by American corporate standards.


So there's some traction to be gained, here -- I do think Wal-Mart's aggregate impact should be watched closely in terms of market manipulation. The tricky part with that is drawing the line -- but that's always been the tricky part, right? I would probably disagree with most about the "evilness" of their impact, but if there's something to watch it's that.
 
2012-09-25 01:42:32 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: If you ever want to stop suckling on the taxpayer teat for your living, I'm sure Wally World would take you back in a heartbeat.


Did you know they pay Obama a salary? That man is living off the taxpayer teat!
 
2012-09-26 01:13:07 AM
Costco still has living founders, one of whom is chairman. Once they die, The Corporation will raid it like they do every other, and they'll sink to the bottom like the rest.
 
2012-09-26 07:38:56 AM

nmemkha: If only there was type of organization that would allow the worker's to untie and collectively bargain for better wages and working conditions.


zOMG SOOOOOOOOCIALISM!
 
2012-09-26 07:42:14 AM
When Henry Ford offered his workers $5/day, his competitors thought he was crazy.

Henry Ford was crazy like the proverbial fox. He didn't offer $5/day so people could afford cars, though it had that result to some extent. He offered $5/day so his workers would stay put.
 
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