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2012-09-24 09:50:46 AM
"He has to come across as a sincere, transparent, credible leader. But he shouldn't reinvent himself. Another Romney reinvention plays right into the president's hands," said Steve Deace, an influential Iowa-based conservative radio host.

so basically...Romney is f*cked.
 
2012-09-24 10:15:13 AM

Weaver95: "He has to come across as a sincere, transparent, credible leader. But he shouldn't reinvent himself. Another Romney reinvention plays right into the president's hands," said Steve Deace, an influential Iowa-based conservative radio host.

so basically...Romney is f*cked.


Once you can fake sincerity, you have it made.

I am not really sure which tactic they haven't tried yet. I suppose young urban hipster, but that would scare his base.
 
2012-09-24 10:28:15 AM

EvilEgg: Weaver95: "He has to come across as a sincere, transparent, credible leader. But he shouldn't reinvent himself. Another Romney reinvention plays right into the president's hands," said Steve Deace, an influential Iowa-based conservative radio host.

so basically...Romney is f*cked.

Once you can fake sincerity, you have it made.

I am not really sure which tactic they haven't tried yet. I suppose young urban hipster, but that would scare his base.


I don't know what Romney can do to salvage things. look, he can't talk about his business record (counter: Bain capital/vulture capitalism). he can't talk about his record as governor (counter: Romneycare, HORRIBLE record on job creation). He can't talk about religion (counter: GOP evangelicals hate/fear Mormons almost as much as they hate Obama). Romney has also created a number of lasting controversies (his refusal to talk about his tax returns, his '47%' speech, among others). Plus, the GOP convention was poorly managed (changing the rules midstream to evict the Ron Paul delegates, a couple well documented moments of blatant racism AND the 'empty chair' speech).

And I'm not even talking about Obama's people kicking things into campaign mode. Just looking at Romney and the Republican election season antics alone, it's not looking good for Mitt. this whole thing has been poorly managed, sloppy and inefficient. Romney's not just lacking popular appeal, he's almost gone out of his way to make the moderates distrust and/or hate him. just Romney's open contempt of anyone making less than 250k a year alone is enough to drive most voters away. add to that Romney's clear preference for dominionist theology and authoritarian controls on what's left of the middle class and people are deciding that Obama is clearly the lesser of the many evils out there this year.

So I don't know how Romney is gonna get out from under all this. I don't know that he CAN get out from all this. half the crap that's destroying his chances was caused by himself and/or his campaign! you just can't fix something like that.
 
2012-09-24 10:39:33 AM
He should be Person X, but since he's not already Person X, he shouldn't become Person X. What a fancy, verbose way of saying, "Romney's a dickhead who has to start looking like a decent human being, but he shouldn't stop looking like a dickhead."

There's no way Romney is going to come out smelling like roses during the debates unless the President doesn't show up, shiats his pants and throws it at the moderator, or beats Romney to death with the lectern.
 
2012-09-24 10:53:19 AM
He's got the transparent thing down.
 
2012-09-24 10:53:28 AM

Coco LaFemme: He should be Person X, but since he's not already Person X, he shouldn't become Person X. What a fancy, verbose way of saying, "Romney's a dickhead who has to start looking like a decent human being, but he shouldn't stop looking like a dickhead."

There's no way Romney is going to come out smelling like roses during the debates unless the President doesn't show up, shiats his pants and throws it at the moderator, or beats Romney to death with the lectern.


I wouldn't want him beaten to DEATH, really, but a good ass whoopin' with s podium would probably do that smug asshole a world of good.
 
2012-09-24 11:15:30 AM

Shadowknight: Coco LaFemme: He should be Person X, but since he's not already Person X, he shouldn't become Person X. What a fancy, verbose way of saying, "Romney's a dickhead who has to start looking like a decent human being, but he shouldn't stop looking like a dickhead."

There's no way Romney is going to come out smelling like roses during the debates unless the President doesn't show up, shiats his pants and throws it at the moderator, or beats Romney to death with the lectern.

I wouldn't want him beaten to DEATH, really, but a good ass whoopin' with s podium would probably do that smug asshole a world of good.


We all know that no matter how badly Romney loses the debate, Fox News will claim that he won somehow. I just Romney to lose badly enough, that Fox News even claiming a draw will be laughable.
 
2012-09-24 11:20:56 AM
The only thing consistent about Romney is his inconsistency on nearly everything (except perhaps support for the wealthy). What is another drastic change to him? When it's about the power and the office over any personal beliefs and convictions at all, he's free to just drift where ever the votes are, so might as well set sail on more time. Why not? What does he have to lose at this point? And there are just enough American voters who don't pay any attention until right before election day, so he might just get by with it. And let's face it, those are the votes by which our republican now is governed.
 
2012-09-24 11:21:12 AM

mrshowrules: Shadowknight: Coco LaFemme: He should be Person X, but since he's not already Person X, he shouldn't become Person X. What a fancy, verbose way of saying, "Romney's a dickhead who has to start looking like a decent human being, but he shouldn't stop looking like a dickhead."

There's no way Romney is going to come out smelling like roses during the debates unless the President doesn't show up, shiats his pants and throws it at the moderator, or beats Romney to death with the lectern.

I wouldn't want him beaten to DEATH, really, but a good ass whoopin' with s podium would probably do that smug asshole a world of good.

We all know that no matter how badly Romney loses the debate, Fox News will claim that he won somehow. I just Romney to lose badly enough, that Fox News even claiming a draw will be laughable.


I think that when Romney loses, some factions within the GOP are going to completely lose their shiat.
 
2012-09-24 11:34:13 AM
Any Romney debate performance that ends with un-shat pants or without him screaming Loki's "In the end, you will always kneel" speech from the Avengers movie while Romney's neck veins pop to the beat of "Another One Bites the Dust" and Ann pepper-sprays Cokie Roberts will be reported on Fox News as "A total, game-changing Romney victory"
 
2012-09-24 11:39:23 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Any Romney debate performance that ends with un-shat pants or without him screaming Loki's "In the end, you will always kneel" speech from the Avengers movie while Romney's neck veins pop to the beat of "Another One Bites the Dust" and Ann pepper-sprays Cokie Roberts will be reported on Fox News as "A total, game-changing Romney victory"


I wouldn't put it past Romney to refer to African socialism is some way.
 
2012-09-24 12:06:49 PM
If Obama and Romney's political stances were reversed, I'd lay money on Romney to win the debates.

Romney is a crappy un-charismatic candidate and the GOP positions suck balls. They've got nothing but lies and fear to fall back on.
 
2012-09-24 12:12:25 PM
Making androids likable only happens on TV shows and movies....
 
2012-09-24 12:33:26 PM
Is it too late to legally change his name to "Generic Republican"?

I hear the poll numbers on that guy rock!
 
2012-09-24 12:34:07 PM
If he dodges Bain, his taxes, an actual plan for reforming Obamacare/tax system/economy/contraception/rape&women's rights/immigration/foreign policy he will be farked.

/sorry but he's already screwed the pooch
 
2012-09-24 12:34:25 PM
You know what I'd like to see? (I know you do) An actual formal debate. Like with propositions and each candidate arguing 'for' or 'against.'

/As opposed to, like, idiot "journalist" throwing softballs and candidate responding with "Set Response 11K"
 
2012-09-24 12:36:35 PM

EvilEgg: Once you can fake sincerity, you have it made.


Ah, so that's why he picked Ryan as the VP candidate.
 
2012-09-24 12:37:21 PM

Coco LaFemme: He should be Person X, but since he's not already Person X, he shouldn't become Person X. What a fancy, verbose way of saying, "Romney's a dickhead who has to start looking like a decent human being, but he shouldn't stop looking like a dickhead."


I actually think reality is the exact opposite. Romney is a pretty reasonable guy who has to start looking like a far right wing dickhead, but he shouldn't stop being a pretty reasonable guy.

As an elected politician, look at what he did. Then compare that to all the derp he's spewing to pretend to look like a far right wing dickhead in this election. That's why there are so many gaffes here, he's pretending to be something he is not.
 
2012-09-24 12:38:26 PM

EvilEgg: I suppose young urban hipster, but that would scare his base.


I smell a good photoshop meme. Romney hipster, or Ripster.
 
2012-09-24 12:38:35 PM
You know, as this looks to be a landslide for Obama, and a live in a Blue locked state. I'm seriously thinking of voting for Gary Johnson. I don't want him to win, but why the heck not.
 
2012-09-24 12:40:22 PM
Krackers for Kenyan Kommunism?
 
2012-09-24 12:40:49 PM

bartink: EvilEgg: I suppose young urban hipster, but that would scare his base.

I smell a good photoshop meme. Romney hipster, or Ripster.


gifsound

Already done.
 
2012-09-24 12:42:01 PM
There is an entire debate focused on Foreign Policy. He will be asked to name the leader of Libya who just made his first visit to the US. Even knowing this, I can tell you that Romney cannot name him. In fact, I doubt Romney is even aware that Libya has a leader, and that said leader is not a member of Al Qaeda. Nor do I believe Romney cares enough to try and learn this information before the debate.

/popcorn is on backorder
 
2012-09-24 12:42:08 PM
Transparent the person who is saying "If I don't have to show my taxes by law why would I want to do it?"

How do you think he is going to govern as president if he is now saying "Well if the law doesn't force me to, I don't have to tell you!"?
 
2012-09-24 12:42:23 PM
GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!
 
2012-09-24 12:42:45 PM

MindStalker: You know, as this looks to be a landslide for Obama, and a live in a Blue locked state. I'm seriously thinking of voting for Gary Johnson. I don't want him to win, but why the heck not.


At least vote for Vermin Supreme, because his campaign slogan is: "A vote for Vermin Supreme is a vote totally wasted."

Plus, ponies. I worry about the dental part of his platform though.
 
2012-09-24 12:42:55 PM
So, A && !A is what I'm hearing
 
2012-09-24 12:44:12 PM

Lost Thought 00: There is an entire debate focused on Foreign Policy. He will be asked to name the leader of Libya who just made his first visit to the US. Even knowing this, I can tell you that Romney cannot name him. In fact, I doubt Romney is even aware that Libya has a leader, and that said leader is not a member of Al Qaeda. Nor do I believe Romney cares enough to try and learn this information before the debate.

/popcorn is on backorder


And as leader of the US he would call Israel and ask them what we should do.
 
2012-09-24 12:44:36 PM
www.humorpolitical.com

Once the new derp logic upgrades are installed, Romneybot will be unstoppable.
 
2012-09-24 12:44:55 PM

EvilEgg: MindStalker: You know, as this looks to be a landslide for Obama, and a live in a Blue locked state. I'm seriously thinking of voting for Gary Johnson. I don't want him to win, but why the heck not.

At least vote for Vermin Supreme, because his campaign slogan is: "A vote for Vermin Supreme is a vote totally wasted."

Plus, ponies. I worry about the dental part of his platform though.


images.wikia.com
 
2012-09-24 12:45:32 PM
The threshold for Romney is set somewhere just slightly above "Rick Perry". I'm not certain Mitt will be able to cross that, particularly if he starts getting defensive about his personal history, which somehow managed to not be brought up in any of the 20 Republican Primary debates. It's really easy to get under Romney's skin, just suggest that he has been somewhat less-than-perfect at some point in the past
 
2012-09-24 12:45:33 PM
He has to come across as a sincere, transparent, credible leader.

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2012-09-24 12:46:18 PM
Romney is being sincere and transparent. He is making no effort to hide his deep disdain for the working poor.He is sincere in his belief that wealthy folks like him are superior to everyone else.

You are seeing the core of Mitt Romney. You know exactly how he will lead.
 
2012-09-24 12:47:15 PM
Obama is going to make him cry.
 
2012-09-24 12:48:56 PM

Coco LaFemme: There's no way Romney is going to come out smelling like roses during the debates unless the President doesn't show up, shiats his pants and throws it at the moderator


Any candidate who poops themselves and throws it at the moderator has my vote.

/ I'm not proud that I am a 'One Issue Voter'
// It's my issue though damn it!
 
2012-09-24 12:52:27 PM
As long as Romney doesn't sing.
 
2012-09-24 12:52:39 PM
"He has to come across as a sincere, transparent, credible leader. But he shouldn't reinvent himself"

Too late. He already did when he knew he couldn't be a GOP nominee with some of his liberal policies.
 
2012-09-24 12:52:53 PM

MindStalker: You know, as this looks to be a landslide for Obama, and a live in a Blue locked state. I'm seriously thinking of voting for Gary Johnson. I don't want him to win, but why the heck not.


I'm doing this in a landslide Red state. If the 'pubs haven't gotten their shiat together by 2016 with some actual candidates, I fear the Democrats will get complacent and start pushing for stupid, wasteful shiat.

I considered myself a centrist a decade ago, and now I find the central ground to be occupied by nobody but democrats. So I vote for them, and hope a rational party, be it a purged GOP or an alternate, rise up to challenge the democrats and keep them intellectually honest.
 
2012-09-24 12:53:58 PM
I don't think in my life I have ever seen a presidential nominee that no one has a clue what his position is on most of the main issues:

Healthcare: Will remove "Obamacare" and replace with ??? (a thing not called Obama but is Obamacare, Emergency rooms, the BS republican "plan" of deregulating Helathcare and hope they decide to lower prices when there is no more competition)

Taxes: Reduce rate but remove deductions. Which dedications?? He refuses to say however others who've looked at the number say it will be ones used by the middle class. He has lied saying no one will pay more taxes. Mathematically that's impossible if he is reducing taxes for some others must then pay more if it's to be neutral.

Deficit: He has said he would reduce the deficit but doesn't give what specific things he would cut, but he also says he would massively increase defense spending which is the largest discretionary spending there is. He said he will not raise taxes plus add back $716 Billion in medicare waste. He does not say how he will pay for tax cuts, increase in military spending, the $716 in medicare waste, new war with Iran.

This is seriously the fullest of shiat candidate in modern history.
 
2012-09-24 12:56:48 PM

BarrRepublican: MindStalker: You know, as this looks to be a landslide for Obama, and a live in a Blue locked state. I'm seriously thinking of voting for Gary Johnson. I don't want him to win, but why the heck not.

I'm doing this in a landslide Red state. If the 'pubs haven't gotten their shiat together by 2016 with some actual candidates, I fear the Democrats will get complacent and start pushing for stupid, wasteful shiat.

I considered myself a centrist a decade ago, and now I find the central ground to be occupied by nobody but democrats. So I vote for them, and hope a rational party, be it a purged GOP or an alternate, rise up to challenge the democrats and keep them intellectually honest.


I agree we don't want the early 80's Democrat party that was actually mostly pushing things that only the fringe wanted. That changed a lot after Clinton (or maybe it was the other way around) Right now the Democrats are very central where the GOP is run by the fringe elements like the Democrats were in the early 80's.
 
2012-09-24 12:57:23 PM

red5ish: Obama is going to make him cry.


Either that, or lose his cool, and say something something truly derptastic. ( like the $10,000 bet he tried to make duriing the primaries, maybe, or "they don't make over 250k so they don't count")
 
2012-09-24 01:00:40 PM

mrshowrules: Shadowknight: Coco LaFemme: He should be Person X, but since he's not already Person X, he shouldn't become Person X. What a fancy, verbose way of saying, "Romney's a dickhead who has to start looking like a decent human being, but he shouldn't stop looking like a dickhead."

There's no way Romney is going to come out smelling like roses during the debates unless the President doesn't show up, shiats his pants and throws it at the moderator, or beats Romney to death with the lectern.

I wouldn't want him beaten to DEATH, really, but a good ass whoopin' with s podium would probably do that smug asshole a world of good.

We all know that no matter how badly Romney loses the debate, Fox News will claim that he won somehow. I just Romney to lose badly enough, that Fox News even claiming a draw will be laughable.


"He really takes a podium to the face like a champ. That's what the American people want in a President."
 
2012-09-24 01:03:08 PM
Romney gets testy as hell when he's challenged.

I'm looking forward to his awkward body language, expressions and forced "HA HA HA" laughter while the president is relaxed, focused and...well, presidential.
 
2012-09-24 01:04:05 PM

Corvus: BarrRepublican: MindStalker: You know, as this looks to be a landslide for Obama, and a live in a Blue locked state. I'm seriously thinking of voting for Gary Johnson. I don't want him to win, but why the heck not.

I'm doing this in a landslide Red state. If the 'pubs haven't gotten their shiat together by 2016 with some actual candidates, I fear the Democrats will get complacent and start pushing for stupid, wasteful shiat.

I considered myself a centrist a decade ago, and now I find the central ground to be occupied by nobody but democrats. So I vote for them, and hope a rational party, be it a purged GOP or an alternate, rise up to challenge the democrats and keep them intellectually honest.

I agree we don't want the early 80's Democrat party that was actually mostly pushing things that only the fringe wanted. That changed a lot after Clinton (or maybe it was the other way around) Right now the Democrats are very central where the GOP is run by the fringe elements like the Democrats were in the early 80's.


We can test out the kooky shiat later. Right now we are in crisis mode, and we need people actually working OT - not people who actively stand in the way of getting shiat done out of wrongheaded spite.

TPoC, or whoever the troll for this thread is going to be - Report back to your masters that you are starting to lose the farking white middle class south Carolinian vote because of this stupid shiat. We have the Internet and we can actually see the stupid shiat you say and fact check it at a moments notice. Unless you want the party to die in 12-18 years (depending on the actuarial table referenced) stop pandering to the kooks and re-embrace the idea doing your farking jobs. The rest of us are starting to again, no thanks to you assholes.
 
2012-09-24 01:05:27 PM

lennavan: Coco LaFemme: He should be Person X, but since he's not already Person X, he shouldn't become Person X. What a fancy, verbose way of saying, "Romney's a dickhead who has to start looking like a decent human being, but he shouldn't stop looking like a dickhead."

I actually think reality is the exact opposite. Romney is a pretty reasonable guy who has to start looking like a far right wing dickhead, but he shouldn't stop being a pretty reasonable guy.

As an elected politician, look at what he did. Then compare that to all the derp he's spewing to pretend to look like a far right wing dickhead in this election. That's why there are so many gaffes here, he's pretending to be something he is not.


I agree about the probable reality. But if he were to win, he'd have to spend his term pandering to the right wing to have any hope of a second term.

So, regardless of what his deep down personal beliefs (if any) might be, it's reasonable to assume he'd govern as a Generic Teabagger.
 
2012-09-24 01:05:55 PM
You want "America run as a business?" Because we fire the assholes who do nothing but sit there shooting ideas down but with absolutely nothing of their own to offer.
 
2012-09-24 01:08:28 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: lennavan: Coco LaFemme: He should be Person X, but since he's not already Person X, he shouldn't become Person X. What a fancy, verbose way of saying, "Romney's a dickhead who has to start looking like a decent human being, but he shouldn't stop looking like a dickhead."

I actually think reality is the exact opposite. Romney is a pretty reasonable guy who has to start looking like a far right wing dickhead, but he shouldn't stop being a pretty reasonable guy.

As an elected politician, look at what he did. Then compare that to all the derp he's spewing to pretend to look like a far right wing dickhead in this election. That's why there are so many gaffes here, he's pretending to be something he is not.

I agree about the probable reality. But if he were to win, he'd have to spend his term pandering to the right wing to have any hope of a second term.

So, regardless of what his deep down personal beliefs (if any) might be, it's reasonable to assume he'd govern as a Generic Teabagger.


Plus, the legislative agenda he'd be sent (and subsequently sign) would be that of specific Teabaggers.
 
2012-09-24 01:10:00 PM

Weaver95: I think that when Romney loses, some factions within the GOP are going to completely lose their shiat.


I thought the same about Dubya in 2004, McCain in 2008, teabagging Congresscritters and governors in 2010.

Now I assume there is no logical limit to how derpy the party can get.

I used to joke that, because of the embracing of anti-intellectualism, before long Republican candidates would have to pretend to be illiterate. Then we flirted with that via Herman "I don't like to read" Cain.

/my antidepressant dosage must need adjusted
 
2012-09-24 01:11:31 PM

BarrRepublican: You want "America run as a business?" Because we fire the assholes who do nothing but sit there shooting ideas down but with absolutely nothing of their own to offer.


Every place I've worked has a good supply of such people.

/srsly, running government like a business is a terrible idea; they do different things, for good reason
 
2012-09-24 01:11:38 PM
Is it too late for him to change his name to Generic Republican?
 
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