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2012-09-24 12:10:26 AM  
I know this all too well. I'm a BC powder addict and take two immediately upon waking up otherwise I know I'm doomed to a headache. Of course I drink a lot and each BC powder has about as much caffeine as a cup of coffee, so there's that too.
 
2012-09-24 12:20:02 AM  
"Medication overuse headaches" seems to be a new, but more descriptive term for what used to be called "rebound headaches".

But it doesn't really matter what term you use because they still suck.
 
2012-09-24 12:28:53 AM  
Can I get a pill for that?
 
2012-09-24 12:33:43 AM  
In my day, we drank to get our headaches and pill popping was for hippies.

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2012-09-24 12:53:12 AM  
Have they tried trepanning?
 
2012-09-24 12:56:28 AM  
I never take pills for my headaches because pills just don't work for me.

I've tried Tylenol, Advil, Naproxen, Aspirin. Nothing makes a difference. Even Vicodin proved useless. So, I just grin and bear it.

The only drug that ever worked was morphine. But, that was given to me in the hospital. Luckily, I don't have headaches too often anymore. But, when I do, they're awful.
 
2012-09-24 01:03:31 AM  

eraser8: I never take pills for my headaches because pills just don't work for me.

I've tried Tylenol, Advil, Naproxen, Aspirin. Nothing makes a difference. Even Vicodin proved useless. So, I just grin and bear it.

The only drug that ever worked was morphine. But, that was given to me in the hospital. Luckily, I don't have headaches too often anymore. But, when I do, they're awful.


BC powders dude! Though you may not live in the South where we are far more technologically advanced in headache medicine, having already pioneered deathly moonshine many decades ago. I once spent a month out West for a work assignment and remember frantically looking around the 7-11 for some. I finally asked the clerk, where are your headache powders? And he replied without even missing a beat, why would you want a powder to create a headache?

/weird land out there
 
2012-09-24 01:04:05 AM  
Oh yeah, you know my delicious coffee cures my headaches that I have every morning around 9 AM when I don't have my coffee which cures my headaches.
 
2012-09-24 01:04:07 AM  
Vicodin gave me less awareness of the pain in my knee, acupuncture cured the situation.
 
2012-09-24 01:15:40 AM  

Confabulat: eraser8: I never take pills for my headaches because pills just don't work for me.

I've tried Tylenol, Advil, Naproxen, Aspirin. Nothing makes a difference. Even Vicodin proved useless. So, I just grin and bear it.

The only drug that ever worked was morphine. But, that was given to me in the hospital. Luckily, I don't have headaches too often anymore. But, when I do, they're awful.

BC powders dude! Though you may not live in the South where we are far more technologically advanced in headache medicine, having already pioneered deathly moonshine many decades ago. I once spent a month out West for a work assignment and remember frantically looking around the 7-11 for some. I finally asked the clerk, where are your headache powders? And he replied without even missing a beat, why would you want a powder to create a headache?

/weird land out there


Um, you were the one hitting a 711 clerk up for powders. You're lucky he wasn't undercover and feelin' all arresty.
 
2012-09-24 01:27:56 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Um, you were the one hitting a 711 clerk up for powders. You're lucky he wasn't undercover and feelin' all arresty.


I work in a place with many Northern transplants. I've seen them eyeing my individual BC powder pack with a suspicious eye. I always make sure I have the packaging around somewhere. By the way, if you ever DO want to carry cocaine around with you, BC individual powder packs in the package, duh. They are designed for that.

/not that I would ever encourage such activity
 
2012-09-24 03:25:36 AM  
There's also Goodys powders. But the powders remind me of my grandfather when I was a kid. For some reason, he could not swallow a pill, somewhen he had a headache he would dissolve a couple of aspirin tablets in a spoonful of water.
Anyway. Long time migraine sufferer here. There was a time, before I had insurance and access to prescription medication, I would take Excedrin Migraine extra strength. They did next to nothing. I could take a dozen and still have a pounding headache. Now I have a prescription for Imitrex. Not 100% foolproof, but still the best results I've ever had.
A couple of years ago, the patent (?) or whatever expired on Imitrex, and companies started cranking out generic versions. In order to keep doctors prescribing the 'brand name' they added a new ingredient. Naproxen. So now I get the generics and take a couple Alleve with it.
However, not all generics are alike. My prescription plan has sent me generics manufactured in Mumbai. They just don't work nearly as well. I need to take 2 pills to kill a headache where before I needed 1. They also have more side effects. It's a diuretic. So I'm peeing all night, then dehydrated in the morning.
Still, better than the migraines that made me want to put a pistol to my head.
 
2012-09-24 03:34:46 AM  

propasaurus: Now I have a prescription for Imitrex. Not 100% foolproof, but still the best results I've ever had.


My mom hates those farkers,says it makes it feel like there's a ton of pressure at the top of her head,and her other prescription isn't anything more than an excedrin with a barbiturate in it. Then again the reason she gets migraines is due to most of her corpus callosum being missing so that probably has a shiat load to do with it.
 
2012-09-24 03:36:52 AM  
Not sure what the generic name for Imitrex is, but have you tried amitriptyline. It can be used to stop migraines before they start with a daily dose. I believe its a low dose for migraine prevention and thus shouldn't turn you into a zombie.
 
2012-09-24 03:50:56 AM  
"The guidelines also include a recommendation for acupuncture in patients susceptible to migraine and tension headaches."

That's it, I'm never taking advice from the UK's "National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence"...
 
2012-09-24 04:00:11 AM  

propasaurus: Long time migraine sufferer here. There was a time, before I had insurance and access to prescription medication, I would take Excedrin Migraine extra strength. They did next to nothing. I could take a dozen and still have a pounding headache. Now I have a prescription for Imitrex. Not 100% foolproof, but still the best results I've ever had.


Ditto.

I love Imitrex, too, but it's not a magic bullet for me. It works better than anything else I've ever tried, including Vicodin, but it doesn't always work. Sometimes one Imitrex is enough to get rid of 95% of my migraine, sometimes I need two just to get rid of 75%. Fortunately, they seem to last about 15 hours; unfortunately, my insurance is cheap and doesn't want to pay for as many as I really need, so I try to avoid being profligate with them.
 
2012-09-24 04:04:16 AM  
What a croc.
 
Skr
2012-09-24 04:09:32 AM  
antidepressants can cause (worsen) depression and lead to suicide as well.
Not that I think that having "side effects may include Death" on half the drugs commercialized on T.V. should be the norm when it seems it is.

Bad Cholesterol? take this drug that may kill you.
Bad heart? take this drug that may kill you.
Bad herp? take this drug that may kill you. etc
Ask your doctor if Slowpainfuldeathizam is right for you.
 
2012-09-24 04:09:53 AM  
I used to have terrible migraines that would take me down for two, three days, and then I was given some blood pressure medication that helped out quite a bit, but they were still evil, just a bit more rare, and a bit shorter.

So then I had a heart valve replaced to fix a congenital defect, and since that was done a few years back, I've had two auras and no migraines.

So....

If you haven't already, do consider seeing your MD.
 
2012-09-24 04:14:34 AM  
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2012-09-24 04:17:49 AM  

Confabulat: I know this all too well. I'm a BC powder addict and take two immediately upon waking up otherwise I know I'm doomed to a headache. Of course I drink a lot and each BC powder has about as much caffeine as a cup of coffee, so there's that too.


Try Goodie's powder. A little less aspirin and caffeine, but it also has acetaminophen. I used to eat the stuff straight out of the bag for hangovers long ago.
 
2012-09-24 04:21:45 AM  
Didn't read TFA but that's what valium is for.

/rookies
 
2012-09-24 04:24:22 AM  
I used to suffer horrible migraines in high school. Splitting headache, auras, nausea and vomiting.

I found that taking paracetamol (acetaminophen for those in the states) made me feel more nauseous and didn't do anything for the pain. It wasn't too helpful that this is the most common painkiller around, and the only one the school seemed to have.

I found the best thing was getting a shot of Phenergan and Pethidine. That knocked me out for the next 24hrs, but it was better then dealing with the pain and nausea
 
2012-09-24 04:28:43 AM  
Let me get this straight:

All painkillers, regardless of method of action, create headaches? So acetaminophen and NSAIDs that work in completely different ways both cause headaches. Headaches that can be cured with expensive Chinese needles administered by anorexic Buddhist white women who extol the virtues of Lemon Grass enemas?

www.exoterictrauma.com
 
2012-09-24 04:34:22 AM  

Genju: Confabulat: I know this all too well. I'm a BC powder addict and take two immediately upon waking up otherwise I know I'm doomed to a headache. Of course I drink a lot and each BC powder has about as much caffeine as a cup of coffee, so there's that too.

Try Goodie's powder. A little less aspirin and caffeine, but it also has acetaminophen. I used to eat the stuff straight out of the bag for hangovers long ago.


Goody's are no good for an alcoholic. acetaminophen will destroy what part of your liver you don't do yourself. BC is the healthy drunk's choice.
 
2012-09-24 04:36:23 AM  
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2012-09-24 04:36:47 AM  

Skr: antidepressants can cause (worsen) depression and lead to suicide as well.


I was on anti-depressants for like a year and I have never been so miserable. Then I realized it was just that I hated my job and so I got fired in a spectacular fashion, and that pretty much cured all that.
 
2012-09-24 04:37:39 AM  
I always had this race: if I can get my meds BEFORE the aura goes away, I could turn a migraine into a bad headache. If the aura went away before I took my meds, bang, 3 day migraine.

The absolute best advice I ever got about managing migraines was from an ophthalmologist who told me how to MacGyver emergency migraine medication from Mountain Dew and some other OTC substances. It was a really cool exam and from a shopping mall ophthalmologist. He told me about concussions I had had years earlier because he could see eye pigment blocking dear tucts or some such thing.
 
2012-09-24 04:41:24 AM  
Every drunk in the world could've told em that killing pain with chemicals causes hangovers
 
2012-09-24 04:42:26 AM  

RoyBatty:

The absolute best advice I ever got about managing migraines was from an ophthalmologist who told me how to MacGyver emergency migraine medication from Mountain Dew and some other OTC substances. It was a really cool exam and from a shopping mall ophthalmologist. He told me about concussions I had had years earlier because he could see eye pigment blocking dear tucts or some such thing.


Anymore information on the MacGyver migraine medication?
 
2012-09-24 04:43:34 AM  

Confabulat: Genju: Confabulat: I know this all too well. I'm a BC powder addict and take two immediately upon waking up otherwise I know I'm doomed to a headache. Of course I drink a lot and each BC powder has about as much caffeine as a cup of coffee, so there's that too.

Try Goodie's powder. A little less aspirin and caffeine, but it also has acetaminophen. I used to eat the stuff straight out of the bag for hangovers long ago.

Goody's are no good for an alcoholic. acetaminophen will destroy what part of your liver you don't do yourself. BC is the healthy drunk's choice.


These days I just drink a Rockstar Recovery.
 
2012-09-24 04:49:27 AM  

Hermit Tard: RoyBatty:

The absolute best advice I ever got about managing migraines was from an ophthalmologist who told me how to MacGyver emergency migraine medication from Mountain Dew and some other OTC substances. It was a really cool exam and from a shopping mall ophthalmologist. He told me about concussions I had had years earlier because he could see eye pigment blocking dear tucts or some such thing.

Anymore information on the MacGyver migraine medication?


It was so long ago, and I no longer get migraines, so I've forgotten the rest, so I left it out, but I believe it was, and googling suggests, it was Migraine and Excedrin, or Migraine and OTC Migraine Meds. But ask around. It was the answer to the question of: I'm getting a migraine and I have no meds but I work in an office, what can I do for myself? And the answer was basically Mountain Dew and ask around for a tylenol and/or aspirin.

I wish it was uber cool like Mountain Dew + Chocolate but alas.

For me it was very helpful. I remember driving home 40 minutes one day when the aura hit because I'd rather drive on the freeway with aura vision than drive home with the migraine. Idiot me.
 
2012-09-24 04:53:28 AM  
Yeah, I'm not taking any advice from a doctor who recommends acupuncture as if it were a real treatment rather than a placebo.

From Wikipedia: A 2009 Cochrane Review of the use of acupuncture for migraine treatment concluded that "true" acupuncture wasn't more efficient than sham acupuncture, however, both "true" and sham acupuncture appear to be more effective than routine care in the treatment of migraines, with fewer adverse effects than prophylactic drug treatment." "A 2009 review of the highest quality clinical trials of acupuncture in the treatment of pain (in general), published in the British Medical Journal, reported a "small analgesic effect of acupuncture was found, which seems to lack clinical relevance and cannot be clearly distinguished from bias. Whether needling at acupuncture points, or at any site, reduces pain independently of the psychological impact of the treatment ritual is unclear."

Wow, people who suffer from headaches benefit from lying relaxed in a dim room whilst someone touches them gently. I am Bob's complete lack of surprise.

This guy's previously been on a similar panel which recommended acupuncture for back pain so I guess he has an agenda.
 
2012-09-24 05:23:52 AM  
Of course Painkiller causes headaches. What do you expect when playing it at 120db?

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2012-09-24 06:16:52 AM  
Obvious tag woulda been more suitable for this nice bit of non-news.
 
2012-09-24 06:29:12 AM  
Maybe this has something to do with the United Kingdom's new health minister being a total lunatic who believes homeopathy should be paid for by the government?

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22241-hail-jeremy-hunt-the-new- m inister-for-magic.html

Don't trust any new British medical discoveries for a while....
 
2012-09-24 07:29:33 AM  

Skr: antidepressants can cause (worsen) depression and lead to suicide as well.
Not that I think that having "side effects may include Death" on half the drugs commercialized on T.V. should be the norm when it seems it is.

Bad Cholesterol? take this drug that may kill you.
Bad heart? take this drug that may kill you.
Bad herp? take this drug that may kill you. etc
Ask your doctor if Slowpainfuldeathizam is right for you.


This.

I've had doctors prescribe anti-depressants for pain relief. For some reason the general belief seems to be that if you aren't depressed then you won't experience pain. What if you're not depressed (like me)? Anti-depressants made me feel depressed and they did shiat for pain. I refuse to take them. I'll stick with the pain, thanks.
 
2012-09-24 08:46:15 AM  

nmemkha: Let me get this straight:

All painkillers, regardless of method of action, create headaches? So acetaminophen and NSAIDs that work in completely different ways both cause headaches. Headaches that can be cured with expensive Chinese needles administered by anorexic Buddhist white women who extol the virtues of Lemon Grass enemas?

[www.exoterictrauma.com image 323x416]


Yes. Of course, the Chinese needles should be coated in opium first.
 
2012-09-24 08:58:49 AM  
Shhhhhhh! that's the point.
 
2012-09-24 10:03:32 AM  

AbbeySomeone: Vicodin gave me less awareness of the pain in my knee, acupuncture cured the situation.


Did ya take an arrow to it?
 
2012-09-24 10:13:57 AM  
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Only way this can cause headaches is when you're searching for some of those secrets.
 
2012-09-24 10:35:30 AM  
I'm surprised this is news - in my experience doctors in the UK will routinely discuss analgesic headache problems when prescribing painkillers. I've had 3 different types if painkiller prescribed at the same time, and told when and in what order to use them to avoid analgesic headaches.

Not surprised about the acupuncture though - if it works as a placebo for some people, doesn't matter why it's working, as long as it does. Does it make a difference if the person feels better at the end of it? Not for me, because I'm a cynical type and don't believe in holistic medicine, healing stones, reiki, homeopathic remedies, auras, horoscopes or unicorns (except in as much as belief in the aforesaid is a good way of identifying those you should avoid).
 
2012-09-24 10:37:17 AM  
As someone who has experienced this first hand let me tell you that there are no words to describe a severe case of what the doctor's called "rebound" headaches. I got them after being on Demerol IV for two weeks following back surgery. They were so intense that over the course of the month I was having them I took one ambulance ride to the hospital and was taken by family to the ER the times. The only thing that would make the headache stop was another big syringe full of Demerol or other strong painkiller. Ass soon SS it would wear of the headache would return. And not your typical headache, this was super ninja of headaches. Bad enough that on at least one occasion I thought about suicide, anything to make the pain stop. Hopefully these rebound headaches aren't as severe with lesser pain killers.
 
2012-09-24 11:13:30 AM  

Hermit Tard: RoyBatty:

The absolute best advice I ever got about managing migraines was from an ophthalmologist who told me how to MacGyver emergency migraine medication from Mountain Dew and some other OTC substances. It was a really cool exam and from a shopping mall ophthalmologist. He told me about concussions I had had years earlier because he could see eye pigment blocking dear tucts or some such thing.

Anymore information on the MacGyver migraine medication?


Farking A. I want more info, too.

\that mall doc sounds cool
\\was he this guy by chance?

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2012-09-24 11:18:01 AM  
In women with hormone-related migraines, tofu - really - can help modulate and prevent them.

Here's some generic advice regarding headache and foods.
 
2012-09-24 05:48:35 PM  
"Grin and bear it" should be top of the list for most pain, especially chronic pain (and most especially pain that's _perceived_ as chronic). You're not meant to pop NSAIDs as a regular 11 am snack.

/Plain paracetamol and booze will do me fine.
//That's acetametophen for you seppos.
///Byebye stomach lining.
 
2012-09-24 10:14:08 PM  

SomethingToDo: "Grin and bear it" should be top of the list for most pain, especially chronic pain (and most especially pain that's _perceived_ as chronic). You're not meant to pop NSAIDs as a regular 11 am snack.

/Plain paracetamol and booze will do me fine.
//That's acetametophen for you seppos.
///Byebye stomach lining.


Eh your stomach lining will be fine. It's your liver you have to worry about.
/Too many NSAIDs causes ulcers. Too much Tylenol causes liver failure.
//The more you know!
 
2012-09-25 02:14:02 AM  
Medical mj soothes your headache away.
 
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