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(WWSB ABC 7)   Yes, the tape clearly shows me kicking a handcuffed suspect while he was on the ground, but who are you going to believe, your eyes or my cop friends? Great... now how about a three year paid vacation?   (mysuncoast.com) divider line 148
    More: Florida, Officer Christopher Childers, Sarasota Police officer, Sarasota Police Department, police misconduct, witness testimony, Adam Tebrugge, Police Chief Peter Abbott  
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2012-09-23 06:38:18 PM  
Thank goodness the police officers' union was able to put an end to this egregious abuse of the city's power to hire and fire employees it can trust to act responsibly.
 
2012-09-23 10:05:38 PM  
It's almost as if the police aren't our friends. It's almost as if they are not to be trusted, why do they try to fool us into being so distrustful of them? Why do the fine upstanding police officers try to make us afraid of them?

I'm merely a civilian, so I maybe i should not ask such questions.
 
2012-09-23 10:14:08 PM  
It seems it's nearly impossible to get a cop fired. Hell, here in Portland one shot an unarmed, fleeing man in the back and killed him. The mayor fired him but arbitrators insisted he be reinstated.
 
2012-09-23 10:17:46 PM  

fusillade762: It seems it's nearly impossible to get a cop fired. Hell, here in Portland one shot an unarmed, fleeing man in the back and killed him. The mayor fired him but arbitrators insisted he be reinstated.


Similar to Seattle. Cop was fired and the union got him rehired because it was discriminatory to let ONE cop go for abuse when so many others had not been fired.

Don't worry, the cop apologists will be in here momentarily.
 
2012-09-23 10:51:12 PM  
The City of Sarasota's Civil Service Board has overturned the firing of a Sarasota Police officer from a 2009 incident.

Wow! It's almost like the cop exercised his due process rights and an independent board comprised of non-cops found that he didn't do what he had originally been accused of doing! How unfair!
 
2012-09-23 10:52:18 PM  

fusillade762: It seems it's nearly impossible to get a cop fired. Hell, here in Portland one shot an unarmed, fleeing man in the back and killed him. The mayor fired him but arbitrators insisted he be reinstated.


Public school teachers are the same way.
 
2012-09-23 11:20:27 PM  

CruiserTwelve: The City of Sarasota's Civil Service Board has overturned the firing of a Sarasota Police officer from a 2009 incident.

Wow! It's almost like the cop exercised his due process rights and an independent board comprised of non-cops found that he didn't do what he had originally been accused of doing! How unfair!


Seattle's "citizens review board" is made up of one prosecutor, one cop, and one retired cop... they never find any merit in citizen complaints, which puts my mind at ease. I mean, they are impartial.
 
2012-09-23 11:50:43 PM  
Story with much detail. Link
 
2012-09-24 12:09:18 AM  
why isnt it required that we kill all the cops?
seriously
these "people" are the worst threat to america
period

WTF
 
2012-09-24 12:11:58 AM  

Lsherm: fusillade762: It seems it's nearly impossible to get a cop fired. Hell, here in Portland one shot an unarmed, fleeing man in the back and killed him. The mayor fired him but arbitrators insisted he be reinstated.

Public school teachers are the same way.


Public teachers shoot people in the back?
 
2012-09-24 12:53:34 AM  

CruiserTwelve: The City of Sarasota's Civil Service Board has overturned the firing of a Sarasota Police officer from a 2009 incident.

Wow! It's almost like the cop exercised his due process rights and an independent board comprised of non-cops found that he didn't do what he had originally been accused of doing! How unfair!


Is that water heavy?
 
2012-09-24 12:56:19 AM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-09-24 01:05:10 AM  
Is this the same fark that would ban people for openly criticizing police in 2002?
 
2012-09-24 01:06:13 AM  
BUT BUT BUT BUT MOST COPS ARE GOOD COPS

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2012-09-24 01:29:49 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Is this the same fark that would ban people for openly criticizing police in 2002?


They actually did that? Can't say I remember it.
 
2012-09-24 01:38:10 AM  

brianbankerus: Seattle's "citizens review board" is made up of one prosecutor, one cop, and one retired cop... they never find any merit in citizen complaints, which puts my mind at ease. I mean, they are impartial.


This wasn't a civilian review board, it was a civil service board.
 
2012-09-24 05:33:45 AM  

fusillade762: Because People in power are Stupid: Is this the same fark that would ban people for openly criticizing police in 2002?

They actually did that? Can't say I remember it.


me either.

/hates me some cops
 
2012-09-24 05:50:19 AM  
If we didn't have review boards or unions, none of this would have happened. Maybe we could create a force called the brown shirts. They would protect us.
 
2012-09-24 05:56:50 AM  
cop thread
 
2012-09-24 06:08:42 AM  
I'm hardly a police apologist, but I gotta say... I watched the video, and it really didn't look like the cop was using excessive force. The guy was clearly drunk and having a hard time standing up, and once he did get on his feet the cop pushed him back onto the ground with his foot. At first glance it looks sort of like a kick, but the guy doesn't react as if he'd just been kicked-instead, he actually continues to stand up. The second time, which immediately follows the first, he falls backwards onto the police car and tumbles to the ground, which is pretty much what you'd expect if he were extremely drunk and had just been pushed off balance.

This is hardly a case of the guy getting a severe beating despite obviously offering no resistance. He was clearly doing something he shouldn't have been doing, and given that he had just escaped from a patrol car and refusing orders to stay on the ground he was probably combative and would likely have bitten or spit on any officer who gave him a chance to do so. I think I might well have done the same thing in the cop's situation, and given the distance and angle of the camera it might well have looked like a kick.

Do everyone a favor, people--before you go crucifying this guy, take a look at the video and see if you might possibly have taken the same action that the cop did were you in his place. Let's save our righteous indignation for the pigs that truly deserve it, huh?
 
2012-09-24 06:14:39 AM  
Farking cops. Die.
 
2012-09-24 06:17:26 AM  
I just do not understand why people do not shoot cops at random.
 
2012-09-24 06:23:29 AM  

GuidoDelConfuso: I'm hardly a police apologist, but I gotta say... I watched the video, and it really didn't look like the cop was using excessive force. The guy was clearly drunk and having a hard time standing up, and once he did get on his feet the cop pushed him back onto the ground with his foot. At first glance it looks sort of like a kick, but the guy doesn't react as if he'd just been kicked-instead, he actually continues to stand up. The second time, which immediately follows the first, he falls backwards onto the police car and tumbles to the ground, which is pretty much what you'd expect if he were extremely drunk and had just been pushed off balance.

This is hardly a case of the guy getting a severe beating despite obviously offering no resistance. He was clearly doing something he shouldn't have been doing, and given that he had just escaped from a patrol car and refusing orders to stay on the ground he was probably combative and would likely have bitten or spit on any officer who gave him a chance to do so. I think I might well have done the same thing in the cop's situation, and given the distance and angle of the camera it might well have looked like a kick.

Do everyone a favor, people--before you go crucifying this guy, take a look at the video and see if you might possibly have taken the same action that the cop did were you in his place. Let's save our righteous indignation for the pigs that truly deserve it, huh?


You expect me to watch a video before I decide whether or not someone is guilty? Screw that! What are you this guys brother? Everyone knows cops are criminals and criminals are criminals. If they didn't do anything wrong, there wouldn't be an article on Fark about them. Obviously this cop is guilty. As are all cops!
 
2012-09-24 06:35:17 AM  

hestheone: I just do not understand why people do not shoot cops at random.



Dunno....maybe for the same reason that you haven't done it.

Hey! You could start a trend!
 
2012-09-24 06:37:04 AM  
Everyone hates the police until they need them, then it's "Why didn't you get here quicker?"
 
2012-09-24 06:40:35 AM  

blipponaut: Everyone hates the police until they need them, then it's "Why didn't you get here quicker?"


I've heard a lot of people make the same claim as you; but I don't know anyone who has actually said that.
 
2012-09-24 06:42:38 AM  
Forget the police. That website designer should be arrested and sentenced to life with no hope of parole
 
2012-09-24 06:42:47 AM  
This is what happens when you're caught being Mexican in Sarasota County.
However, to the assholes in the thread joking about shooting at cops......... you're assholes.
 
2012-09-24 06:48:37 AM  

brianbankerus: fusillade762: It seems it's nearly impossible to get a cop fired. Hell, here in Portland one shot an unarmed, fleeing man in the back and killed him. The mayor fired him but arbitrators insisted he be reinstated.

Similar to Seattle. Cop was fired and the union got him rehired because it was discriminatory to let ONE cop go for abuse when so many others had not been fired.

Don't worry, the cop apologists will be in here momentarily.


The very next poster, in fact.
 
2012-09-24 07:03:09 AM  

brianbankerus: fusillade762: It seems it's nearly impossible to get a cop fired. Hell, here in Portland one shot an unarmed, fleeing man in the back and killed him. The mayor fired him but arbitrators insisted he be reinstated.

Similar to Seattle. Cop was fired and the union got him rehired because it was discriminatory to let ONE cop go for abuse when so many others had not been fired.

Don't worry, the cop apologists will be in here momentarily.


Arent unions great! My parenst worked at the post office and one employee there was busted for stealing mail. Instead of being fired the union protected got her retrained and she ended up with a better job. She was clean and articulate too, so they may have had something to do with it as well, diversity being almost as wondeful as a union
 
2012-09-24 07:08:39 AM  
Suspect must have: a) tripped and fallen on the sidewalk (several times). b) fallen down the stairs (several times). c) hit his head on the door of the police cruiser (several times).

See? There's a reasonable explanation for everything!
 
2012-09-24 07:09:25 AM  

Onkel Buck: brianbankerus: fusillade762: It seems it's nearly impossible to get a cop fired. Hell, here in Portland one shot an unarmed, fleeing man in the back and killed him. The mayor fired him but arbitrators insisted he be reinstated.

Similar to Seattle. Cop was fired and the union got him rehired because it was discriminatory to let ONE cop go for abuse when so many others had not been fired.

Don't worry, the cop apologists will be in here momentarily.

Arent unions great! My parenst worked at the post office and one employee there was busted for stealing mail. Instead of being fired the union protected got her retrained and she ended up with a better job. She was clean and articulate too, so they may have had something to do with it as well, diversity being almost as wondeful as a union


Must be terrible being a persecuted white male like yourself.
 
2012-09-24 07:16:50 AM  

GuidoDelConfuso: Do everyone a favor, people--before you go crucifying this guy, take a look at the video and see if you might possibly have taken the same action that the cop did were you in his place.


Watched it.

Still wouldn't have stomped on the beat-up, pepper-sprayed drunk guy.
 
2012-09-24 07:23:59 AM  
+1 Stupid to a lot of people here.
 
2012-09-24 07:26:54 AM  

brianbankerus: fusillade762: It seems it's nearly impossible to get a cop fired. Hell, here in Portland one shot an unarmed, fleeing man in the back and killed him. The mayor fired him but arbitrators insisted he be reinstated.

Similar to Seattle. Cop was fired and the union got him rehired because it was discriminatory to let ONE cop go for abuse when so many others had not been fired.

Don't worry, the cop apologists will be in here momentarily.


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CruiserTwelve: The City of Sarasota's Civil Service Board has overturned the firing of a Sarasota Police officer from a 2009 incident.

Wow! It's almost like the cop exercised his due process rights and an independent board comprised of non-cops found that he didn't do what he had originally been accused of doing! How unfair!


That didn't take long
 
2012-09-24 07:30:54 AM  
FTFA: ""This was really not a strong force that was used," Shelin said, as the board deliberated. "The man was drunk as a skunk and he was going to topple over easily. And apparently, that's all he did. It was an easy push with his foot, and the man fell over."

Um, it doesn't matter if it was "an easy push" or not, it's still unnecessary force.

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2012-09-24 07:32:01 AM  

brianbankerus: fusillade762: It seems it's nearly impossible to get a cop fired. Hell, here in Portland one shot an unarmed, fleeing man in the back and killed him. The mayor fired him but arbitrators insisted he be reinstated.

Similar to Seattle. Cop was fired and the union got him rehired because it was discriminatory to let ONE cop go for abuse when so many others had not been fired.

Don't worry, the cop apologists will be in here momentarily.


I'd say there needs to be more civilian oversight with our police forces, but I guess that didn't help much here.

I'd also say that maybe Gov. Walker had the right idea limiting the power of public-employee unions, but I think he exempted police unions in this.

So...yeah.
 
2012-09-24 07:34:04 AM  

xanadian: I'd say there needs to be more civilian oversight with our police forces, but I guess that didn't help much here.


Actually in the article they mention that even with this case being overturned they are implementing new standards of handling incidents like this to ensure that oversight is used.
 
2012-09-24 07:40:28 AM  

CruiserTwelve: he didn't do what he had originally been accused of doing!


Of course he did. Video don't lie. But cops do.

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Also, "investigators concluded he violated five department policies."

Oh, and the little fact that he was fired.

But if you ignore all that, yeah, sure, he's completely innocent.

Oh, and regarding the claim the cop made about "not trying to hurt him or use any more force than necessary to keep him subdued."- Um, he's laying on the ground! How much more "subdued" do you want him?!?!

It's not like the cop was threatened at all- he was sauntering around with his hands in his pockets.
 
2012-09-24 08:06:29 AM  

GuidoDelConfuso: I'm hardly a police apologist, but I gotta say... I watched the video, and it really didn't look like the cop was using excessive force. The guy was clearly drunk and having a hard time standing up, and once he did get on his feet the cop pushed him back onto the ground with his foot. At first glance it looks sort of like a kick, but the guy doesn't react as if he'd just been kicked-instead, he actually continues to stand up. The second time, which immediately follows the first, he falls backwards onto the police car and tumbles to the ground, which is pretty much what you'd expect if he were extremely drunk and had just been pushed off balance.


Optics, optics, optics. It doesn't matter what you're doing, it matters what it LOOKS like you're doing. In practice this means you never touch a downed subject with your foot unless you actually intend to do what a still photo looks like you're about to do. My question is, what did the cop think was going to happen after he pushed the drunk guy with his foot? The guy's drunk and handcuffed, he can't protect himself when he falls. He's going to get hurt for basically no reason and you're responsible for it. That's a careless use of force. It's not like he bootfarked the guy, I'm not sure that warrants a firing, I definitely wasn't there, but it doesn't sound to me like that was a very good decision. Too bad the oversight board is so hilariously biased.

I now return you to your adolescent rage. Fark: Where advocating killing everyone in a single group is A-OK!
 
2012-09-24 08:08:07 AM  
And, just one headline above this, officers use excessive force (shooting) and unarmed, horny, peeping tom suspect who was casing a Utah neighborhood. His partner, nicknamed "The Squirrel", may have been there as well.

Them cops. Ya give'em power and they'll abuse it.
 
2012-09-24 08:08:17 AM  

fredklein: Um, he's laying on the ground! How much more "subdued" do you want him?!?!


http://gifs.gifbin.com/052010/1273487123_police-brutality.gif



Nevermind.
 
2012-09-24 08:11:23 AM  
www.newdisorder.com
 
2012-09-24 08:15:29 AM  
Childers will receive back pay for the last three years.

"Sweet! A boat load of lap dances from my snitch, some more free lobster and free fuel for the boat and finally get my landlord off my ass. It's great to be me."
A society of entitlement?

If you hadn't acted like a barbarian in the first place then . . . what?
 
2012-09-24 08:22:17 AM  
Florida- Who else will beat the hell out of you?
 
2012-09-24 08:24:00 AM  

fredklein: CruiserTwelve: he didn't do what he had originally been accused of doing!

Of course he did. Video don't lie. But cops do.

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Also, "investigators concluded he violated five department policies."

Oh, and the little fact that he was fired.

But if you ignore all that, yeah, sure, he's completely innocent.


The SPD also had to pay out 2 separate "Please don't sue us" settlements totaling over $130k because Sgt. Oinksalot was so innocent.

Wipe off your chin before you go on parking lot duty, Cruiser 12.
 
2012-09-24 08:24:36 AM  

namatad: why isnt it required that we kill all the cops?
seriously
these "people" are the worst threat to america
period

WTF


I agree that they are a threat to our liberties in America. I don't agree with a killing rampage, though. What we need is a real display of 'civil disobedience' to show those in power who are really in power. Cop and the government should fear the population but these days it's the other way around.
 
2012-09-24 08:37:57 AM  

CruiserTwelve: The City of Sarasota's Civil Service Board has overturned the firing of a Sarasota Police officer from a 2009 incident.

Wow! It's almost like the cop exercised his due process rights and an independent board comprised of non-cops found that he didn't do what he had originally been accused of doing! How unfair!


Kicking someone who is handcuffed is a farking pussy move. You condone this?
 
2012-09-24 08:42:14 AM  

devlin carnate: fredklein: CruiserTwelve: he didn't do what he had originally been accused of doing!

Of course he did. Video don't lie. But cops do.

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Also, "investigators concluded he violated five department policies."

Oh, and the little fact that he was fired.

But if you ignore all that, yeah, sure, he's completely innocent.


The SPD also had to pay out 2 separate "Please don't sue us" settlements totaling over $130k because Sgt. Oinksalot was so innocent.

Wipe off your chin before you go on parking lot duty, Cruiser 12.


heroes, every damn one of them
 
2012-09-24 08:52:06 AM  
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Cop: Stop falling down...
Perp: Ouch!
Cop: Stop falling down...
Perp: Ouch!
Cop: Stop falling down...
Perp: Ouch!
 
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