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(Some Guy)   Psychologists studying Furries find... well, the Fark admins backing away slowly in horror, for one thing   (flayrah.com) divider line 294
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Xai
2012-09-24 08:14:59 AM

Cyno01: fluffy2097: //Ask any furry about Yiff and its "oh god, you saw that CSI episode. It's not like that."

In my experience with the furries i know online and IRL... it is. Granted thats not all its about, and not every furry is a furvert... but i think its probably something like this.

[i.imgur.com image 562x562]


you know what is really funny, is that change the names in the circle to 'people' and 'perverts' and you suddenly realise that furries have the same demographics as regular internet users
 
2012-09-24 08:18:52 AM
weknowmemes.com
 
2012-09-24 08:28:56 AM

Lsherm: That's a creepy-ass looking Easter Bunny.


I think it's the Ice Cream Bunny.
 
2012-09-24 09:02:09 AM

TheDumbBlonde: Weaver95: TheDumbBlonde: WTF is a "bronie"?

I can live a long life and die happy never knowing the answer to that question.

I have, until now. Still, I'd like to know what this term means. Also, who the fark funds something called an "Anthropomorphic Research Project"?


Social psychologists study any and every stratum of society...almost always one with the same characteristics as the researcher. In my department (I study neuroscience within my school's psych department), it's not uncommon to see poster presentations hung up about the experience of gay Christian Latinos, or something else odd like that, conducted by that odd androgynous Venezuelan dude that eyerapes you daily.

/how much easier grad school would be for me if my research was just making surveys
 
2012-09-24 09:18:25 AM
Just got here -- hope I didn't miss the oatmeal party!!!
 
2012-09-24 10:18:12 AM
 
2012-09-24 10:51:08 AM

abb3w: To be viciously unfair, that's more or less how I stopped leaning libertarian. I encountered an alarming fraction of sociopaths, and re-examined my predisposition from first principles.


Heh. I look at libertarianism the same way I look at most major religions: a set of good ideas to inspire people to be better than they are, but not a working technical manual for civilisation. I regard libertarianism as a set of worthwhile ideals to aspire to on a personal level -- responsibility, self-reliance, the commerce of integrity, and so on -- but not a workable roadmap for a society made out of human beings who are not all Robert Heinlein. That's just asking for more than people can deliver.

Anyway, the same sort of thing gradually pushed me out of radio operations, too. I loved doing it myself, and it was incredibly rewarding on the rare occasions I got to do it with like-minded people; but far too much of the time, it's a huge collection of idiots and crazy people who all thing they're very special and doing something really special, when they're mostly just stroking their own egos. I got sick of that and moved into policy and lobbying, but then realised that wasn't much different -- same fools, I just didn't have to share coffee and doughnuts with them anymore. Some of them smarter, most of them not; and a lot of them even crazier. I also went back to first principles, and reviewed everything from the ground up: What is it? What does it do? What is it for? And so on. Now I wander back into those same forums as the cranky old lady who tells everyone they're fools. But because I went throught that introspective process, I've also now become the person they don't like who has the extremely annoying habit of usually being right.

What that has in common with your experiences with libertarianism is that these are necessarily shared experiences. (Though I'm currently working on a solution to that for radio. Stay tuned.) I was probably harsh in acting as if brony fandom is not, because now that I really think it through, I realised that it probably is. In that case, I owe that guy an apology. But I still stand by my principle that liking things for how they appeal to you personally and individually, regardless of how others act, is most valid.
 
2012-09-24 10:58:05 AM

abb3w: So, the existence gender norms are more instinctively fundamental than the existence of Gods?
That does make some sense.


I'd break it down a bit more than that. The mistake our culture makes is in conflating masculinity with maleness. They are very objectively not the same thing. A six-year-old boy is not masculine, because no child that age really can be. But he's just as male as Hulk Hogan, and no one would deny that. It's that conflation, more than anything else, I think, that leads to all the social stress and idiotic bullshiat we habitually characterise as gender fear. As if a drag queen literally loses her penis while performing, instead of merely concealing it. That's a moranic conflation, I think anyone would agree. But it's that same kind of thinking, perhaps on a less conscious level, that makes some men freak out over other men enjoying a cartoon about anthromorphic ponies.
 
2012-09-24 10:58:08 AM

Tainted1:
I CAN'T CLOP TO THIS!


Careful now, don't wanna end up like this guy did!

rooftop235: Shut up woman get on my horse


i.imgur.com

I think you'll find that Equestria pretty much covers everything...
 
2012-09-24 11:01:31 AM
Pony pussy has flecks of shiat on it. Just so you know.

They're not sanitary animals.
 
2012-09-24 11:13:15 AM

if_i_really_have_to: Don't really know why people hate furries so much; did the school mascot rape you? Non-furries get up to far more bizarre stuff in the bedroom than a bit of yiffing in a squirrel suit. As long as everyone's having fun and everyone's consenting I've not the slightest interest in what people do with their tingly bits.

/How is being a furry worse than watersports
//Or BDSM (the hipster perversion)


People are, by and large, pretty childish, unsophisticated, and narrow-minded. Just look at the world around you. Furries are subjectively 'weird' to a fairly large majority of people, and so they assume that that's the same thing as being *objectively* weird. Without ever asking themselves to explain: It's enough for them that there's at least a superficial degree of difference apparently -- or at least presumably -- exceeding the degree they'd expect from the company they normally keep.

This is the basis of my "Everyone Is a Freak" maxim: Put a gang of street toughs and a klatch of business executives on either side of a room, and ask them who's the freak in the room. They'll all give the same answer: those other guys. Try it with any pair of groups who all think they're normal, or normal enough, but very different from the other. I promise you'll get the same result every time. Whether all or none of them are right becomes academic at that point, and thus the question itself becomes academic, which is really the point I want to get at: It does not matter. It never did, and never will, and everything people make of their differences with other people is meaningless noise. I don't mean that it's meaningless to talk about -- it's not, differences are interesting -- but that it's meaningless to consider or pursue any deeper relevance to it. There isn't any. Yet people actually get killed over this bullshiat, which makes me want to go live on another planet, maybe one populated by grown-ups. To me it's all extremely childish and heartbreaking.
 
2012-09-24 11:29:04 AM
Oh fark it. Let's get this over with:

"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!"
"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!"
"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!"

It can't be worse and maybe it will be over quickly.
 
2012-09-24 11:49:29 AM
I find it fascinating that for several pages that brones were just being brought up because people hate them, and then people were biatching about how ubiquitous bronies are. In my experience, bronie hate is everywhere, and even the slightest mention of them brings upon pages/hours of vitriol.
 
2012-09-24 12:11:33 PM

whcgonzo4: Oh fark it. Let's get this over with:

"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!"
"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!"
"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!"


... So early in the morning!
 
2012-09-24 12:35:53 PM

airsupport: Pony pussy has flecks of shiat on it. Just so you know.

They're not sanitary animals.


Every animal either has flecks of shiat all over it or has licked them off. Including humans prior to technological advancements. You don't think for millions of years we were getting all good and cleaned up for sex?
 
2012-09-24 01:06:13 PM

Ed Grubermann: whcgonzo4: Oh fark it. Let's get this over with:

"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!"
"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!"
"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!"

... So early in the morning!


farm7.static.flickr.com

IA! IA!, the cuteness rises,
IA! IA!, the cuteness rises,
IA! IA!, the cuteness rises,
Early in the morning!!

My Little Elder Gods: Friendship is Madness...
 
2012-09-24 01:10:54 PM

fluffy2097: Bronies, those that go to cons, are not that mature as a subculture yet, and have not realized the PR value of not talking about farking plush toys in full view of the public.


That's called a plushie as far as I know. I always felt they were pretty harmless.

Beluga Heights: And let's be honest. Even the most "normal" among us has probably wanted to things they'd never publicly admit to.


I thought the issue here was that people are too willing to publicly admit to wanting to do stuff that makes other people uncomfortable.
 
2012-09-24 01:22:46 PM

Therion: Cyno01: Queen? I didnt vote for her.

The queen of the ponies is a nice Jewish girl who looks like this?

[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 600x450]

Do the rest of us get to vote?


Hint: She's the voice actress of the main character

/Also Raven from Teen Titans
//and both Toot and Clara of Drawn Together
//And like a billion other things
 
2012-09-24 02:02:04 PM

Lsherm: Shadow Blasko: Lsherm: Shadow Blasko: I'm a brony. Proud of it. Don't give a damn if anyone else likes it or not.

I'm also a kinkster. Proud of it. Don't give a damn if anyone else likes it or not.

I'm also a Rennie, SCAdian, LARPer, gamer, trekkie, petrolhead, sewing nut, corseter, techie, farker, bNer, slashdotter, etc etc etc..

Wait, what?

*looks up corseter on teh intarwebs*

I can't tell if you make them, wear them, or put them on someone else.

Add sell to that, and the answer is "Yes".

Good lord, why would you want to wear a corset? Women hated them so much it became part of the suffrage movement.

Whips, handcuffs, the occasional slap, maybe even a taser - I can understand that. Corsets are just farking torture. You may as well admit to liking waterboarding.

Or are we talking about decorative corsets that don't actually torture the wearer? I can't tell. Some people get off on being ridiculously uncomfortable.


The point is you don't wear them for long :)

On a more serious note, most people today are using them as a fashion statement. Not to force themselves to give them an unnaturally small sized waist.
 
2012-09-24 02:29:44 PM

Braindeath: fluffy2097: Bronies, those that go to cons, are not that mature as a subculture yet, and have not realized the PR value of not talking about farking plush toys in full view of the public.

That's called a plushie as far as I know. I always felt they were pretty harmless.

Beluga Heights: And let's be honest. Even the most "normal" among us has probably wanted to things they'd never publicly admit to.

I thought the issue here was that people are too willing to publicly admit to wanting to do stuff that makes other people uncomfortable.


This.

Though it's not the willingness it's the insistence that I personally have a problem with. Everyone has kinks, but bronies talk about theirs all the farking time. There is nothing you can talk about that won't be steered towards farking ponies. It's insufferable.
 
2012-09-24 03:33:59 PM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Cyno01: pollardy: Bronies are more I want to actually fark a pony as it will be my waifu, otherkin believe they are the pony where as most furries are just roleplaying and aware of that.

Woah woah woah.... cant some of us just enjoy the show in its ironic sincerity and not want to fark anything?


Except them, id fark them.

[img3.etsystatic.com image 850x612]

Not because theyre dressed as characters from the show though, but because theyre attractive human womens.

I will fark as many plushies as it takes to tap that Applejack. Just saying.

/Pervert
//Also a Brony
///Was a pervert LONG before I became a Brony


Shes pretty cute, but...

i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-24 03:58:43 PM
What.the.balls
 
2012-09-24 06:09:49 PM
"see back in the day when holidays revolved round cartoon characters with a capitalist flair that's what kids became..."

some lyric from somewhere.
 
2012-09-24 07:47:55 PM

RatOmeter: I *almost* like these threads, but only because I can identify persons from a very narrow demographic, those who repeatedly post pony pics on Fark, to put on ignore.

/troll on


Nobody cares who you have on ignore.
 
2012-09-24 07:53:01 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope:
I have no idea. having only heard of it on a radio show that tests whether men are bronies, I assume it's normal fandom - watching the cartoons, knowing all the details. If there's slashfic or Adult cosplay involved, I do not wish to be informed.


Don't ever, ever GIS anything that may be My Little Pony related with safesearch off.

My "my little pony related", I mean basically any search term possible.
 
2012-09-24 07:55:57 PM

violentsalvation: I am so sick of those goddamm colorful horses all over fark threads.


Would you say that you've had it with the MLP takes in your Monday farking threads?
 
2012-09-24 08:04:32 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Nobody cares who you have on ignore.


Apparently, they do:

thatboyoverthere: /Lets' see if I get on another ignore list due to a pony thread.

 
2012-09-24 08:06:14 PM

Ghastly: [www.ghastlycomic.com image 500x292]
When will the persecution end?


Thank you sir for posting the one remotely SFW panel with him in it.

/yiff macht frei always cracked me up
 
2012-09-24 08:19:56 PM

spamdog: Bathia_Mapes: Nobody cares who you have on ignore.

Apparently, they do:

thatboyoverthere: /Lets' see if I get on another ignore list due to a pony thread.


They really don't.
 
2012-09-24 08:32:20 PM

doglover: They really don't.


Well, if you say so!
 
2012-09-24 09:23:00 PM

doglover: spamdog: Bathia_Mapes: Nobody cares who you have on ignore.

Apparently, they do:

thatboyoverthere: /Lets' see if I get on another ignore list due to a pony thread.

They really don't.



I still don't understand that. If you believe some number of posters are spamming nonpony threads with large numbers of pony pictures, feel free to ignore those posters. Don't go into the pony threads and block anyone and everyone, including the haters yelling at the bronies. That doesn't even accomplish its stated purpose.

Wouldn't it be easier to simply not go into the pony threads in the first place?
It's as if one went into a barbecue pork restaurant, and started yelling at the patrons, full of vitriol, because they actually serve pigs there! ... Were you expecting something different?
 
2012-09-24 09:26:59 PM

Cyno01: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Cyno01: pollardy: Bronies are more I want to actually fark a pony as it will be my waifu, otherkin believe they are the pony where as most furries are just roleplaying and aware of that.

Woah woah woah.... cant some of us just enjoy the show in its ironic sincerity and not want to fark anything?


Except them, id fark them.

[img3.etsystatic.com image 850x612]

Not because theyre dressed as characters from the show though, but because theyre attractive human womens.

I will fark as many plushies as it takes to tap that Applejack. Just saying.

/Pervert
//Also a Brony
///Was a pervert LONG before I became a Brony

Shes pretty cute, but...

[i.imgur.com image 673x1024]


But what? Sharp knees? What?
 
2012-09-24 09:32:24 PM

Mister Peejay: Benevolent Misanthrope:
I have no idea. having only heard of it on a radio show that tests whether men are bronies, I assume it's normal fandom - watching the cartoons, knowing all the details. If there's slashfic or Adult cosplay involved, I do not wish to be informed.

Don't ever, ever GIS anything that may be My Little Pony related with safesearch off.

My "my little pony related", I mean basically any search term possible.


Did it. Not troubled by anything I saw. Because I'm a farking grown-up.
 
2012-09-24 09:33:21 PM

Sim Tree: Don't go into the pony threads and block anyone and everyone, including the haters yelling at the bronies.


Is that what somebody was doing? Because I don't see it.
 
2012-09-24 09:44:26 PM

spamdog: Sim Tree: Don't go into the pony threads and block anyone and everyone, including the haters yelling at the bronies.

Is that what somebody was doing? Because I don't see it.


When an A Lister tells someone doing exactly that nobody cares, and you disagree with said A Lister and then claim not to see the behavior the dork was being called out on, maybe it's because you don't read the posts before disagreeing.

I like Monty Python sketches too, but I didn't come here for an argument!
 
2012-09-24 09:47:57 PM

doglover: A Lister


An ....A Lister?
 
2012-09-24 09:53:24 PM

spamdog: Sim Tree: Don't go into the pony threads and block anyone and everyone, including the haters yelling at the bronies.

Is that what somebody was doing? Because I don't see it.


No worries. It happened in the last pony thread. Someone posted screenshots of themselves ignoring large swaths of posters in the thread. Near the end of the thread, they came back trying to complain to Drew that fark.com wouldn't let him ignore more than 999 people or somesuch. I'm still not entirely sure whether it was an elaborate joke or not. It seemed an awful lot of trouble to go through either way.
 
2012-09-24 10:11:35 PM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Mister Peejay: Benevolent Misanthrope:
I have no idea. having only heard of it on a radio show that tests whether men are bronies, I assume it's normal fandom - watching the cartoons, knowing all the details. If there's slashfic or Adult cosplay involved, I do not wish to be informed.

Don't ever, ever GIS anything that may be My Little Pony related with safesearch off.

My "my little pony related", I mean basically any search term possible.

Did it. Not troubled by anything I saw. Because I'm a farking grown-up.


Doesn't bother me much, either. (Hell, I was a regular reader of Ghastly's, and Sexy Losers. And Jack.)

Just helping someone who wants to remain in the dark, remain in the dark, you know?
 
2012-09-24 10:12:53 PM

Sim Tree: No worries. It happened in the last pony thread. Someone posted screenshots of themselves ignoring large swaths of posters in the thread. Near the end of the thread, they came back trying to complain to Drew that fark.com wouldn't let him ignore more than 999 people or somesuch. I'm still not entirely sure whether it was an elaborate joke or not. It seemed an awful lot of trouble to go through either way.


Well that's dumb. Still, I think some people haven't experienced how annoying some bronies can be. They have some kind of MLP monomania, where anything and everything becomes an excuse to post ponies. They literally do not talk about anything else. It can get really annoying. Some of them seem to really revel in the opportunity to be annoying. And the original person who mentioned putting people on ignore, Ratometer, put qualifiers on his comment:

only because I can identify persons from a very narrow demographic, those who repeatedly post pony pics on Fark, to put on ignore.

Being annoyed by repetitive behavior is a very human trait. Maybe some people aren't aware of the phenomenon on the wider internet, but I am, and I don't fault people for being annoyed by a very small vocal minority. If they want to voice that annoyance in a Fark thread, what does it matter?
 
2012-09-24 10:44:58 PM

spamdog: doglover: A Lister

An ....A Lister?


VIP. Someone with a rep as solid good people, the exact details of which are a million classy posts over years and years. Someone everyone worth knowing on this little link farm respects as good people.
 
2012-09-24 10:46:04 PM

spamdog: only because I can identify persons from a very narrow demographic, those who repeatedly post pony pics on Fark, to put on ignore.

Being annoyed by repetitive behavior is a very human trait. Maybe some people aren't aware of the phenomenon on the wider internet, but I am, and I don't fault people for being annoyed by a very small vocal minority. If they want to voice that annoyance in a Fark thread, what does it matter?


Oh, of course; it reminded me of that guy.

I don't understand complaining about ponies being in a pony thread. If you find spammers of anything in any unrelated thread, by all means, ignore away. But in the pony threads there are going to be pony pictures. This is obvious. I'd thought it was a marvelous schema on the part of the fark admins, to help draw out the ponies from the regular threads and concentrate them instead in one place fortnightly. And yet, people who apparently abjectly abhor ponies will come into pony threads anyway, and then protest the presence of ponies there for some reason, where they have already been sorted out of the regular threads explicitly for that reason. This defeats the entire purpose of the drawing out and sorting conversation into one place. 

Why not go into the Doctor Who threads and tell people to watch Battlestar Galactica? Or go into the Battlestar Galactica threads and tell people to watch Doctor Who? It makes about as much sense.
 
2012-09-24 11:03:53 PM

Mister Peejay: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Mister Peejay: Benevolent Misanthrope:
I have no idea. having only heard of it on a radio show that tests whether men are bronies, I assume it's normal fandom - watching the cartoons, knowing all the details. If there's slashfic or Adult cosplay involved, I do not wish to be informed.

Don't ever, ever GIS anything that may be My Little Pony related with safesearch off.

My "my little pony related", I mean basically any search term possible.

Did it. Not troubled by anything I saw. Because I'm a farking grown-up.

Doesn't bother me much, either. (Hell, I was a regular reader of Ghastly's, and Sexy Losers. And Jack.)

Just helping someone who wants to remain in the dark, remain in the dark, you know?


Mm. Probably for the best.
 
2012-09-24 11:20:36 PM

doglover: spamdog: doglover: A Lister

An ....A Lister?

VIP. Someone with a rep as solid good people, the exact details of which are a million classy posts over years and years. Someone everyone worth knowing on this little link farm respects as good people.


You take that back. We are Farkers, and NONE of us provide classy, insightful posts!
 
2012-09-24 11:51:15 PM

Sim Tree: spamdog: only because I can identify persons from a very narrow demographic, those who repeatedly post pony pics on Fark, to put on ignore.

Being annoyed by repetitive behavior is a very human trait. Maybe some people aren't aware of the phenomenon on the wider internet, but I am, and I don't fault people for being annoyed by a very small vocal minority. If they want to voice that annoyance in a Fark thread, what does it matter?

Oh, of course; it reminded me of that guy.

I don't understand complaining about ponies being in a pony thread. If you find spammers of anything in any unrelated thread, by all means, ignore away. But in the pony threads there are going to be pony pictures. This is obvious. I'd thought it was a marvelous schema on the part of the fark admins, to help draw out the ponies from the regular threads and concentrate them instead in one place fortnightly. And yet, people who apparently abjectly abhor ponies will come into pony threads anyway, and then protest the presence of ponies there for some reason, where they have already been sorted out of the regular threads explicitly for that reason. This defeats the entire purpose of the drawing out and sorting conversation into one place. 

Why not go into the Doctor Who threads and tell people to watch Battlestar Galactica? Or go into the Battlestar Galactica threads and tell people to watch Doctor Who? It makes about as much sense.


Personally, I try to keep ponies contained to Sports discussion threads, politics, and pony threads.

Sports, because Peyton is Magic.

Pony threads? That's obvious.

Politics? The Pony memes are usually the most intelligent posts in the middle of the Derp(y) storm.

i6.photobucket.com
 
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