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2012-09-23 03:21:52 PM
content9.flixster.com

stands ready to lend his Nazi-nabbing expertise.
 
2012-09-23 03:25:11 PM
No, there isn't subby. Some crimes cannot be forgotten.
 
2012-09-23 03:25:45 PM
You know who else didn't have a statute of limitations?
 
2012-09-23 03:32:07 PM
Shocking news: Just like civilian murder* war crimes have no statue of limitations.

*99.999% of the time 
 
2012-09-23 03:34:33 PM
Not that there should be a statute of limitations, but what do they hope to accomplish by tracking and trying men in their 80s and 90s for things they may or may not have done 70 years ago?
 
2012-09-23 03:38:04 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Not that there should be a statute of limitations, but what do they hope to accomplish by tracking and trying men in their 80s and 90s for things they may or may not have done 70 years ago?


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2012-09-23 03:44:06 PM

Darth_Lukecash: No, there isn't subby. Some crimes cannot be forgotten.


Sheesh, it was 10 years ago and they even got a movie. Let it go, dude.
 
2012-09-23 03:45:22 PM

Krieghund: Benevolent Misanthrope: Not that there should be a statute of limitations, but what do they hope to accomplish by tracking and trying men in their 80s and 90s for things they may or may not have done 70 years ago?


Were the Lulz at Auschwitz too? Sad
 
2012-09-23 04:08:26 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Not that there should be a statute of limitations, but what do they hope to accomplish by tracking and trying men in their 80s and 90s for things they may or may not have done 70 years ago?


Nazis are Nazis. I'm sure the Jews, gypsies, homosexuals and cripples who were slaughtered to purify the human race would hope that this behavior is inexcusable-and should never be let off because they lived to an old age. There is no "safe" in human travesty.
 
2012-09-23 04:15:37 PM

MoonPirate: Were the Lulz at Auschwitz


Here I was, getting ready to screw off and make jokes all day. Photoshop MS Paint open and everything.

Then, all of a sudden, Auschwitz.

Mood is killed.

/logging off.
 
2012-09-23 04:36:19 PM
Ah hell? Really? Well I'll be damned.
 
2012-09-23 04:58:26 PM
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No, it is never safe.
 
2012-09-23 05:12:20 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Not that there should be a statute of limitations, but what do they hope to accomplish by tracking and trying men in their 80s and 90s for things they may or may not have done 70 years ago?


I wonder if some day other countries will be as diligent in punishing US war crimes as we have been diligent in punishing the crimes of others...? yeah, yeah, I know - the old 'OMG he questioned the US! traitor!' but...consider the war on drugs and the war on terror. two things that are run with LOTS of money and almost no oversight. allegations of torture, abuse, kidnapping, and murder. some day all that is going to surface, and some day the people who committed all those crimes are going to have to answer for them.
 
2012-09-23 05:14:28 PM

Weaver95: Benevolent Misanthrope: Not that there should be a statute of limitations, but what do they hope to accomplish by tracking and trying men in their 80s and 90s for things they may or may not have done 70 years ago?

I wonder if some day other countries will be as diligent in punishing US war crimes as we have been diligent in punishing the crimes of others...? yeah, yeah, I know - the old 'OMG he questioned the US! traitor!' but...consider the war on drugs and the war on terror. two things that are run with LOTS of money and almost no oversight. allegations of torture, abuse, kidnapping, and murder. some day all that is going to surface, and some day the people who committed all those crimes are going to have to answer for them.


Oh, in the US, the perps will just pay a token amount and go on a book deal.
 
2012-09-23 05:24:20 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Weaver95: Benevolent Misanthrope: Not that there should be a statute of limitations, but what do they hope to accomplish by tracking and trying men in their 80s and 90s for things they may or may not have done 70 years ago?

I wonder if some day other countries will be as diligent in punishing US war crimes as we have been diligent in punishing the crimes of others...? yeah, yeah, I know - the old 'OMG he questioned the US! traitor!' but...consider the war on drugs and the war on terror. two things that are run with LOTS of money and almost no oversight. allegations of torture, abuse, kidnapping, and murder. some day all that is going to surface, and some day the people who committed all those crimes are going to have to answer for them.

Oh, in the US, the perps will just pay a token amount and go on a book deal.


problem is...we sorta opened the book on running snatch and grab operations in other countries. we've both looked the other way AND run operations that snatched people out of their home countries. so we're not going to be able to really complain about it when someone decides that hey - the guys who ran Gitmo need to be identified, snatched up and taken to Iran for a little 'justice'.

but this is perhaps a digression. I understand why we need to hunt down nazi camp guards even after all this time, and I agree with those reasons. i'm just trying to take a step back and figure out if THIS country has acted in accordance with our higher ideals or if we're just being deluded about our sense of justice.
 
2012-09-23 05:24:46 PM
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I for one do not willkommen mein dunklen Überlords
 
2012-09-23 05:25:35 PM
Going after a guard is ridiculous unless there's some evidence that he was involved in the killing of prisoners. The guy had orders to be at the camp and would have been shot for desertion had he left.
 
2012-09-23 05:25:47 PM
I'm a little bit Nazi,
And I'm a little bit Rock and Roll...
 
2012-09-23 05:26:18 PM
Doesn't matter. Nazism is free speech in this country. We often defend such inexcusable bigotry using that loophole.
 
2012-09-23 05:27:14 PM
The suspect?
 
2012-09-23 05:29:15 PM
Won't you come home Hans Breyer? Won't you come home?
 
2012-09-23 05:30:12 PM
Also, many of you might not know this, but:

Horst Wessel lied.
 
2012-09-23 05:30:25 PM
Franz Schlechtnacht unavailable for comment.
 
2012-09-23 05:33:44 PM
If you had any part in the Final Solution we have a problem with you.
 
2012-09-23 05:34:07 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Going after a guard is ridiculous unless there's some evidence that he was involved in the killing of prisoners. The guy had orders to be at the camp and would have been shot for desertion had he left.


Yeah honestly at this point unless they were actively involved in the planning (high ranking office type) or some especially nasty butcher, there should be a statute.
 
2012-09-23 05:37:12 PM
All nazis should be like rounded up and murdered or something
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2012-09-23 05:37:56 PM

ha-ha-guy: Popcorn Johnny: Going after a guard is ridiculous unless there's some evidence that he was involved in the killing of prisoners. The guy had orders to be at the camp and would have been shot for desertion had he left.

Yeah honestly at this point unless they were actively involved in the planning (high ranking office type) or some especially nasty butcher, there should be a statute.


So you're suggesting there should be a statute of limitations on accessory to murder?

/That's not a facetious or rhetorical question, I honestly want to know
 
2012-09-23 05:39:47 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Not that there should be a statute of limitations, but what do they hope to accomplish by tracking and trying men in their 80s and 90s for things they may or may not have done 70 years ago?


If some group systematically killed most of my friends and family, I'd be all for hunting them down forever.
 
2012-09-23 05:41:43 PM

thunderbird8804: ha-ha-guy: Popcorn Johnny: Going after a guard is ridiculous unless there's some evidence that he was involved in the killing of prisoners. The guy had orders to be at the camp and would have been shot for desertion had he left.

Yeah honestly at this point unless they were actively involved in the planning (high ranking office type) or some especially nasty butcher, there should be a statute.

So you're suggesting there should be a statute of limitations on accessory to murder?

/That's not a facetious or rhetorical question, I honestly want to know


Where do we stop? How about German civilians who worked in munitions factories? How about German civilians who baked bread or otherwise provided food for the Nazis? Do we just kill everyone?
 
2012-09-23 05:42:06 PM
I donno.

I'm as vengeful as the next person but I think, unless there is some ironclad evidence, that it's just too hard to make case.

If there is ironclad evidence - hang him.
 
2012-09-23 05:42:24 PM
I find it a travesty that they are even investigating Breyer for a non existent, fabricated holocaust. Plus the fact that he makes damn good ice cream.
 
2012-09-23 05:45:25 PM

jimmyego: Shocking news: Just like civilian murder* war crimes have no statue of limitations.

*99.999% of the time


What a statue of limitations might look like:

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/oddly enough, should also be tried for war crimes
 
2012-09-23 05:45:28 PM

Darth_Lukecash: No, there isn't subby. Some crimes cannot be forgotten.


Really? You want to dig up any buried Nazis who escaped justice and desecrate their corpses in the name of fairness?

That's not facetious or rhetorical, btw. There are lots and lots of old men and women who successfully hid their pasts, lived long and respectable lives, and died. Where do you want to draw the line? Or do you want there never to be a line, and continue hunting anyone who might have participated or been complicit, their families, their estates and descendents even unto the 7th generation?

If that sounds crazy, recall that that was the same mindset that drove the Inquisition to try "defunct" heretics and dispossess their families--because some crimes cannot be forgotten.
 
2012-09-23 05:46:30 PM
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2012-09-23 05:46:47 PM
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I have eliminated all the juice? 

GANGNAM STYLE
 
2012-09-23 05:48:07 PM
Don't get me wrong, if there's anything that links this guy to actually committing these crimes, string him up, but I'm not entirely sure that "being German at Auschwitz" is worth pursuing him to the ends of the earth over. There's justice and there's vengeance, and this seems more like the latter to me (as I said, barring any evidence to the contrary). My grandfather served in the first unit to enter Dachau, the pictures he brought back from this were the most horrifying I've ever seen, but I have to believe not everyone in that camp personally killed a prisoner, and evil as the place was, it was a military operation, and I have it on good authority that the Nazis weren't particularly keen on people saying "nah I don't want to work there, because what we're doing is bullshiat".

Then again, the guy felt what he did was shameful enough that he fled his home country, so maybe he did do something worthy of severe punishment, I don't know, but "accessory" sounds a lot like "was there".
 
2012-09-23 05:49:43 PM
I dunno what Hitler had against the Juice. I mean OJ wasn't even born yet. How did Hitler even know about him? I guess that dude REALLY hated football.
 
2012-09-23 05:50:09 PM

James F. Campbell: thunderbird8804: ha-ha-guy: Popcorn Johnny: Going after a guard is ridiculous unless there's some evidence that he was involved in the killing of prisoners. The guy had orders to be at the camp and would have been shot for desertion had he left.

Yeah honestly at this point unless they were actively involved in the planning (high ranking office type) or some especially nasty butcher, there should be a statute.

So you're suggesting there should be a statute of limitations on accessory to murder?

/That's not a facetious or rhetorical question, I honestly want to know

Where do we stop? How about German civilians who worked in munitions factories? How about German civilians who baked bread or otherwise provided food for the Nazis? Do we just kill everyone?


Where do we stop? That's up in the air, a case by case issue I suppose. WHere we don't stop is the SS. If you're in the SS, you're more than just a factory working joe who works where he or she works for a living.
 
2012-09-23 05:51:48 PM
Weaver95:
we're not going to be able to really complain about it when someone decides that hey - the guys who ran Gitmo need to be identified, snatched up and taken to Iran for a little 'justice'.

Complain? No. Orgy of destruction? Yes.
 
2012-09-23 05:51:58 PM
So when they come for the poor enlisted shmucks standing watch at Gitmo are we going to be this concerned about justice?
 
2012-09-23 05:53:39 PM

James F. Campbell: thunderbird8804: ha-ha-guy: Popcorn Johnny: Going after a guard is ridiculous unless there's some evidence that he was involved in the killing of prisoners. The guy had orders to be at the camp and would have been shot for desertion had he left.

Yeah honestly at this point unless they were actively involved in the planning (high ranking office type) or some especially nasty butcher, there should be a statute.

So you're suggesting there should be a statute of limitations on accessory to murder?

/That's not a facetious or rhetorical question, I honestly want to know

Where do we stop? How about German civilians who worked in munitions factories? How about German civilians who baked bread or otherwise provided food for the Nazis? Do we just kill everyone?


This guy was a guard for a place whose only function was murder. It wasn't for baking bread...and murder, and it wasn't for making munitions...and murder. Just murder, all the time, and every participant in the camp from the guards to the fuhrer either a murderer, or an accessory to murder.
 
2012-09-23 05:55:45 PM

LordOfThePings:


it was supposed to be a full square but the budget got cut.
 
2012-09-23 05:55:50 PM
Here's a picture of the suspect:

averagechris.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-23 05:59:31 PM
I'm a fan of how the Hungarians have gone about things with publically shaming the folks who were in their secret police. At the Terror Museum right in the heart of Budapest, they have all of their names and photos placed at eye level ringing the building at the sidewalk. One cannot walk past the building without seeing them.

After enough time i think that's probbably more fitting that trying to track down all the onces who dissapeared into the night and are either dead or elderly.

A horrible circumstance to be sure, but at some point looking forward and remembering the past is more important that vengeance.
 
2012-09-23 06:00:24 PM
You know, the Nazis were meticilious record-keepers, but the one group of records which were completely destroyed before the end of the war were any related to the operation of the concentration camps.

Wonder why that was.
 
2012-09-23 06:01:07 PM

Dwight_Yeast: You know, the Nazis were meticilious record-keepers, but the one group of records which were completely destroyed before the end of the war were any related to the operation of the concentration camps.

Wonder why that was.


Because it didn't happen. Duh!
 
2012-09-23 06:02:23 PM
Arrest the Aufseherinnen also.

The Aufseherinnen were female guards in Nazi concentration camps during The Holocaust. Of the 55,000 guards who served in Nazi concentration camps, about 3,700 were women. In 1942, the first female guards arrived at Auschwitz and Majdanek from Ravensbrück. The year after, the Nazis began conscripting women because of a guard shortage.
 
2012-09-23 06:02:27 PM

Treize26: Don't get me wrong, if there's anything that links this guy to actually committing these crimes, string him up, but I'm not entirely sure that "being German at Auschwitz" is worth pursuing him to the ends of the earth over. There's justice and there's vengeance, and this seems more like the latter to me (as I said, barring any evidence to the contrary). My grandfather served in the first unit to enter Dachau, the pictures he brought back from this were the most horrifying I've ever seen, but I have to believe not everyone in that camp personally killed a prisoner, and evil as the place was, it was a military operation, and I have it on good authority that the Nazis weren't particularly keen on people saying "nah I don't want to work there, because what we're doing is bullshiat".

Then again, the guy felt what he did was shameful enough that he fled his home country, so maybe he did do something worthy of severe punishment, I don't know, but "accessory" sounds a lot like "was there".


This is my question as well. I'm not entirely certain that "Being German at Auschwitz", or even "Being in the SS" is worth this long a pursuit. Any more than some other nation should one day hunt down the guards standing post at Gitmo or the members of the Ranger Regiment (or some other elite unit, since we have no real equivalent to the SS in the US - Blackwater/XE/Academi, maybe?).

And I don't think these low-level grunts fleeing Germany and hiding for the rest of their lives proves they know they did something worthy of terrible punishment. I think it's far more likely they understood immediately that "being in the SS" would be enough to get them in very deep, very hot water, if not killed.
 
2012-09-23 06:02:57 PM

Dwight_Yeast: You know, the Nazis were meticilious record-keepers, but the one group of records which were completely destroyed before the end of the war were any related to the operation of the concentration camps.

Wonder why that was.


They were destroyed because they didn't want the Allies to figure out their secrets to success.
 
2012-09-23 06:03:32 PM

whither_apophis: LordOfThePings:

it was supposed to be a full square but the budget got cut.

 

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