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(Talking Points Memo)   GOP at the RNC: We're going to make this election about the last four years and how terrible Obama has been. GOP today: Uh...turns out the last four years weren't so bad, so you should make this about the next four years   (2012.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 171
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2012-09-23 03:06:26 PM  
The Romney campaign has premised much of its message on Obama's economic record and has repeatedly refused to flesh out detailed policy proposals on issues from tax reform to immigration reform. The Romney campaign recently promised to reveal more specifics about what Romney would do in office, but has been slow to provide them.

Aren't the details supposed to be secret, but he'll reveal them once he's President?
 
2012-09-23 03:09:35 PM  
I have been assured that Obama is going to take all my guns away if he wins. I have a relative that is pissed at me for not taking him seriously in this matter.

This is going to be good.
 
2012-09-23 03:13:36 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I have been assured that Obama is going to take all my guns away if he wins. I have a relative that is pissed at me for not taking him seriously in this matter.

This is going to be good.


Sometimes I have to remind myself how lucky I am that none of my relatives are like that.
 
2012-09-23 03:15:42 PM  

St_Francis_P: Marcus Aurelius: I have been assured that Obama is going to take all my guns away if he wins. I have a relative that is pissed at me for not taking him seriously in this matter.

This is going to be good.

Sometimes I have to remind myself how lucky I am that none of my relatives are like that.


You are indeed blessed in that regard.
Silver lining: Holiday gift list is shorter this year.
 
2012-09-23 03:21:30 PM  
There is only one number that the Obama campaign needs to repeat anytime someone starts claiming Obama is a failure- 750,000. That's the number of jobs we were losing PER MONTH when Obama took office. The fact that he and congress stopped that freefall and reversed it, should automatically get him another term.

BTW, in 1980 when Saint Reagan elected, the economy GAINED 267,000 jobs. In 2008, when Obama was elected, the economy LOST 3,603,000 jobs. So tell us again how Reagan was so much better at creating jobs.
 
2012-09-23 03:25:14 PM  

St_Francis_P: The Romney campaign has premised much of its message on Obama's economic record and has repeatedly refused to flesh out detailed policy proposals on issues from tax reform to immigration reform. The Romney campaign recently promised to reveal more specifics about what Romney would do in office, but has been slow to provide them.

Aren't the details supposed to be secret, but he'll reveal them once he's President?


that's part of the problem. With a lot of politicians today (moreso republicans) this secrecy is a means of making sure the electorate does NOT know what you intend to do because it ultimately goes against their wishes. There was a governor several years ago (Damn I forget his name) that came out and said that was his campaign advise to republicans. DON'T tell the elctorate what you're going to do becuase they won't vote for you.

Or shorter: Democracy is for suckers.
 
2012-09-23 03:27:46 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I have been assured that Obama is going to take all my guns away if he wins. I have a relative that is pissed at me for not taking him seriously in this matter.

This is going to be good.


So he's going to vote for the guy who signed a permanent assault weapons ban into law while governor of Massachusetts??
 
2012-09-23 03:28:42 PM  
Oh,GOP. Your capacity to amuse is never-ending.
 
2012-09-23 03:29:24 PM  

St_Francis_P: Marcus Aurelius: I have been assured that Obama is going to take all my guns away if he wins. I have a relative that is pissed at me for not taking him seriously in this matter.

This is going to be good.

Sometimes I have to remind myself how lucky I am that none of my relatives are like that.


Or, if you find yourself NOT so blessed, relief is just a not-phone call away.

To paraphrase Ron Swanson, there are certain members of my fox-news-loving, Limbaugh-fellating extended family that I haven't talked to in years, and in that time they've become some of my favorite relatives. We still never talk sometimes.

Helps that they live 3,000 miles away though.
 
2012-09-23 03:32:07 PM  
Obama's a lazy good for nothing but he's going to impose socialism on us during a second term? Wat.
 
2012-09-23 03:37:10 PM  
For a brief moment this summer, the GOP was unable to avoid reality. Polling showed them that the "are you better than you were 4 years ago?" question was answered by a majority of Americans as either "yes" or "about the same." Obama wins 90% of the "better off" voters, and among voters who feel things are the same, Obama has more than a 20-point lead over Rmoney.

It's refreshing to see the GOP realize their story about Obama being a disaster was total bullshiat, and not shared by a majority of the country. From inside the bubble, they really thought this was an easily-winnable election. And of course now it's going to be Romney's fault when/if they lose, instead of pointing the finger at their intellectually-bankrupt extremist political party.
 
2012-09-23 03:51:16 PM  
Wow, they must be running scared. Bill Kristol is talking like a moderate conservative.
 
2012-09-23 03:51:56 PM  
If this election's just about the last four years, that's a muddy verdict

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This is fantastic.
 
2012-09-23 04:02:16 PM  
Dear lord, when Bill Kristol is forced to say "yeah, the Democratic President handled the economy pretty well" you know you're right screwed using that line of attack.
 
2012-09-23 04:08:08 PM  

Lorelle: Marcus Aurelius: I have been assured that Obama is going to take all my guns away if he wins. I have a relative that is pissed at me for not taking him seriously in this matter.

This is going to be good.

So he's going to vote for the guy who signed a permanent assault weapons ban into law while governor of Massachusetts??


Way to go, Lorelle. Now look what you did

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2012-09-23 04:08:50 PM  
So, how's the stock market doing?

If we have to look at the bottom line here, isn't that one of the big ones? Freefall vs stronger than ever?

How'd Mass fare as Romney left office?

At this point, Romney must really be regretting not having someone like McCain steal his thunder this time around...
 
2012-09-23 04:09:30 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I have been assured that Obama is going to take all my guns away if he wins. I have a relative that is pissed at me for not taking him seriously in this matter.

This is going to be good.


Make a bet with him with really high stakes
 
2012-09-23 04:19:53 PM  

nmrsnr: Dear lord, when Bill Kristol is forced to say "yeah, the Democratic President handled the economy pretty well" you know you're right screwed using that line of attack.


I'm confused. If Bill Kristol says that and he's always wrong - what does that mean? Maybe the Dems did fark everything up. Maybe the US would be better off with Romney in charge.
 
2012-09-23 04:30:57 PM  

mrshowrules: nmrsnr: Dear lord, when Bill Kristol is forced to say "yeah, the Democratic President handled the economy pretty well" you know you're right screwed using that line of attack.

I'm confused. If Bill Kristol says that and he's always wrong - what does that mean? Maybe the Dems did fark everything up. Maybe the US would be better off with Romney in charge.


No no no, it's like that riddle with the guards, one who always lies and one who always tells the truth, you can get the right answer from the liar, even though he's lying.

See, since Romney consistently lies, and Kristol is always wrong, then when Romney says that we're worse off than four years ago, he's lying, but Kristol disagrees with the lie, which is the truth, so that... aww, fark it, just look at Sliding Carp's post.
 
2012-09-23 04:38:17 PM  

nmrsnr: mrshowrules: nmrsnr: Dear lord, when Bill Kristol is forced to say "yeah, the Democratic President handled the economy pretty well" you know you're right screwed using that line of attack.

I'm confused. If Bill Kristol says that and he's always wrong - what does that mean? Maybe the Dems did fark everything up. Maybe the US would be better off with Romney in charge.

No no no, it's like that riddle with the guards, one who always lies and one who always tells the truth, you can get the right answer from the liar, even though he's lying.

See, since Romney consistently lies, and Kristol is always wrong, then when Romney says that we're worse off than four years ago, he's lying, but Kristol disagrees with the lie, which is the truth, so that... aww, fark it, just look at Sliding Carp's post.


I know this one. Assuming you can only ask potato questions, the question you ask is "What would the other guard say is the herp to derp?". Whatever derp the guards point to, you herp the other derp.
 
2012-09-23 04:54:13 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Wow, they must be running scared. Bill Kristol is talking like a moderate conservative.


The really bad news is that he's still talking.

And breathing.

Thanks again for Sarah, Bill.
 
2012-09-23 04:57:52 PM  
Make this about the future .... cue Newt and his moon bases.
 
2012-09-23 05:08:56 PM  
Brooks argued that Obama's greatest weakness is a lack of a second-term agenda and that Romney can exploit that fact.

Wait, Romney has a first term agenda? News to me. So far, he's just running on the 'I'm not Obama' platform....

As for Obama's second term agenda, wouldn't it pretty much be to finish putting out the fire that Bush lit?
 
2012-09-23 05:09:59 PM  
The last 4 years has been horrible. Nice to see subby is a media tool.
 
2012-09-23 05:10:27 PM  

teabaggingforjesus: Make this about the future .... cue Newt and his moon bases.


That, or highlight Herman Cain's brave stand against the Moon Nazis.
 
2012-09-23 05:10:31 PM  
Change your campaign message just 6 weeks out from the election. Can't Lose!
 
2012-09-23 05:11:08 PM  
S&P 500 is up over 80% since Obama took office.
 
2012-09-23 05:11:47 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I have been assured that Obama is going to take all my guns away if he wins. I have a relative that is pissed at me for not taking him seriously in this matter.

This is going to be good.


And once again, ammo prices will go through the roof, for no farking reason at all while all the lemmings panic.
 
2012-09-23 05:12:38 PM  

milesl: The last 4 years has been horrible. Nice to see subby is a media tool.


Our economy was on it's death bed when Obama took the wheel. It has been recovering by every measure since then. Only partisan tools don't see this.
 
2012-09-23 05:12:47 PM  

St_Francis_P:
Sometimes I have to remind myself how lucky I am that none of my relatives are like that.


Mine could give a shiat about guns, but they are furious they are not clearing a million dollars a year yet. Their families pull in around 200-300k, they live in absurd McMansions, they drive multiple new cards and have kids that get one of everything. And they are angry all of them time. They get angry when they hear about poor people having food stamps or healthcare or job placement assistance. "No one ever helped me!" they shout, forgetting how our great-grandmother arrived in Michigan after fleeing her home country of Armenia during the Turkish Genocide. How this country opened its arms to refugees with nothing but the clothes they wore and memories of dead villages.

They have everything, fume over people with nothing, and forget their own history as they curse immigrants. Christmas should be interesting this year.
 
2012-09-23 05:13:23 PM  

milesl: The last 4 years has been horrible. Nice to see subby is a media tool.


We are all sorry you haven't been laid in 4 years, but that really isn't Obamas fault.
 
2012-09-23 05:15:14 PM  
Republicans have almost no reason to be as annoyed with Obama. Almost everything he's done was either something Republican leadership dreamed up, or something they were in favor of in the past.

Liberals have way more reason to be angry than conservatives.
 
2012-09-23 05:16:03 PM  

St_Francis_P: Aren't the details supposed to be secret, but he'll reveal them once he's President?


The details are actually inscribed on a set of golden plates. The problem is Obama has stolen the Seer Stone they need to translate it. Once they win the election they'll be able to get it back.
=Smidge=
 
2012-09-23 05:16:04 PM  

vartian: "No one ever helped me!" they shou


And I'm betting they grew up in a decent house in a decent neighborhood, with two parents, always had enough food, went to decent schools, and probably had help getting their first job from Dad.
 
2012-09-23 05:16:35 PM  

TimonC346: Republicans have almost no reason to be as annoyed with Obama. Almost everything he's done was either something Republican leadership dreamed up, or something they were in favor of in the past.

Liberals have way more reason to be angry than conservatives.


That....is actually true.
 
2012-09-23 05:16:37 PM  
 
2012-09-23 05:20:37 PM  
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2012-09-23 05:22:29 PM  
It is absolutely vital that Romney provide specifics on economic policies.

The economy is the soft underbelly of the Obama administration and Romney has the intelligence and financal background to distance himself from the president.

Fixing a farked up economy is the ticket, not empty rhetoric where Democrats are allowed to drive the talking points.

It still could happen. But it better happen quickly.
 
2012-09-23 05:23:34 PM  

Lorelle: Marcus Aurelius: I have been assured that Obama is going to take all my guns away if he wins. I have a relative that is pissed at me for not taking him seriously in this matter.

This is going to be good.

So he's going to vote for the guy who signed a permanent assault weapons ban into law while governor of Massachusetts??


I've had this discussion my with family's tea partier. When I bring up the fact that only Romney has restricted gun use, I'm told it's a liberal media lie. Even if I use specific facts like the AWB, it doesn't matter.

People that exist in the Fox News echo chamber simply attribute any contradiction in facts to liberal lies. Either the facts agree with their views, or they're not really facts.
 
2012-09-23 05:23:57 PM  
So after 4 years they field a horrible candidate expect him to run on a hate Obama campaign platform
then discover that's the wrong thing to do with only 40+ days left till the election. Way to go Einstein.
 
2012-09-23 05:25:26 PM  
So does this mean that the GOP is basically conceding the race? It seems a bit late for a major tactical shift like this, if you ask me...
 
2012-09-23 05:26:23 PM  
I can't believe the GOP's entire cunning plan was to dig in their heels, act like petulant children and then point to the mess they largely created and never lifted a finger to clean up and say "Obama's fault, vote for us".

Sad thing is how many morans this crap actually works on.
 
2012-09-23 05:28:53 PM  

Cletus C.: It is absolutely vital that Romney provide specifics on economic policies.


So you're saying he may as well give up then?

If Mitt provides specifics on his real economic policies his poll numbers will kamikaze.
 
2012-09-23 05:29:05 PM  

quatchi: I can't believe the GOP's entire cunning plan was to dig in their heels, act like petulant children and then point to the mess they largely created and never lifted a finger to clean up and say "Obama's fault, vote for us".

Sad thing is how many morans this crap actually works on.


By and large, humanity is a disappointment.
 
2012-09-23 05:29:48 PM  

Mikey1969: So does this mean that the GOP is basically conceding the race? It seems a bit late for a major tactical shift like this, if you ask me...


I think they conceded the race a year ago. Just look at the group they allowed to dominate the primaries. There wasn't a single electable person among them. They simply accepted the least batshiat-insane candidate.

The real question will be what the GOP does after the election. Do they try to get back to the middle and abandon the tea partiers? Or do they give in completely and the sane Republicans jump ship to something like the Libertarian Party.
 
2012-09-23 05:30:28 PM  
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"Perhaps it would confuse it if we ran away more..."
 
2012-09-23 05:30:44 PM  
Romney camp just couldn't resist the 1980/Reagan "Are you better off than you were four years ago?" line. Unfortunately, it just ended up reminding independents and Democrats to be mad about what happened four years ago when there was still a Republican president.

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2012-09-23 05:31:00 PM  
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I'm voting Romney simply because he has the courage to wear mom-jeans.
 
2012-09-23 05:31:31 PM  
I like how the first quote in the article, from Walker, says that "I think Mitt Romney has got that plan". So, you spent how many farking months raising person after person after person onto pedestals, making a mockery of your core voting block, secured your place as the Bible Party, and even after all that, these people still aren't sure if he has a farking plan??? He is supposedly the best of the best of the Republican party, and they "think" he has a plan.

Either they gave up on this election years ago and are trolling us all, or they really have no goddamn clue.
 
2012-09-23 05:31:37 PM  

quatchi: Cletus C.: It is absolutely vital that Romney provide specifics on economic policies.

So you're saying he may as well give up then?

If Mitt provides specifics on his real economic policies his poll numbers will kamikaze.


Someone just needs to get him to admit what tax deductions he'd close. It's already been determined that his "plan" is not feasible without either raising rates on the middle class or getting rid of some very popular deductions.

Every interviewer should be doing their best to try to force him to answer that question.
 
2012-09-23 05:32:16 PM  

ultraholland: [nyc.3432.voxcdn.com image 480x336]


I'm voting Romney simply because he has the courage to wear mom-jeans.


cannot be unseen.
 
2012-09-23 05:35:21 PM  

milesl: The last 4 years has been horrible. Nice to see subby is a media tool.


Really? I got a small raise, but I got a house cheap, my 401K has soared over 30%, and the new Obamacare rules guarantee that if I do lose my job, my pre-existing conditions will still be covered. Oh, and they've stopped laying off at my workplace.

How are you doing?
 
2012-09-23 05:36:29 PM  

ultraholland: [nyc.3432.voxcdn.com image 480x336]


I'm voting Romney simply because he has the courage to wear mom-jeans.


Oh good lord. Reminds me of my elementary school music teacher, who pulled her pants up to midway between her waist and breasts. Looked like her vagina was HUGE.
 
2012-09-23 05:37:05 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I have been assured that Obama is going to take all my guns away if he wins. I have a relative that is pissed at me for not taking him seriously in this matter.

This is going to be good.


There is only one candidate who has signed an assault weapons ban into law.
 
2012-09-23 05:38:28 PM  

NeoCortex42: quatchi: Cletus C.: It is absolutely vital that Romney provide specifics on economic policies.

So you're saying he may as well give up then?

If Mitt provides specifics on his real economic policies his poll numbers will kamikaze.

Someone just needs to get him to admit what tax deductions he'd close. It's already been determined that his "plan" is not feasible without either raising rates on the middle class or getting rid of some very popular deductions.

Every interviewer should be doing their best to try to force him to answer that question.


I agree. Without specifics, people could jump to conclusions like raising taxes on the middle class. His promise to close loopholes to make up the difference doesn't add up, so draw your own conclusions, Democrats. Gladly, say Democrats.

If he were a Democrat with that plan Republicans would probably conclude he plans to shut down the Department of Defense. Speak up, Romney.
 
2012-09-23 05:39:58 PM  

TimonC346: Republicans have almost no reason to be as annoyed with Obama. Almost everything he's done was either something Republican leadership dreamed up, or something they were in favor of in the past.

Liberals have way more reason to be angry than conservatives.


But Obama is the most liberal of liberals to ever liberal the white house with his liberalism!!! Why he is a full socialist who will force everyone worship the state. Oh and he is a black kenyan muslim who is trying to resurrect the Ottoman Empire.
 
2012-09-23 05:45:28 PM  

vartian: They have everything, fume over people with nothing, and forget their own history as they curse immigrants.


That seems to be pretty much par for the course for 3rd/4th generation immigrants at this point.
 
2012-09-23 05:46:50 PM  
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2012-09-23 05:48:12 PM  

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2012-09-23 05:49:54 PM  

Cletus C.: NeoCortex42: quatchi: Cletus C.: It is absolutely vital that Romney provide specifics on economic policies.

So you're saying he may as well give up then?

If Mitt provides specifics on his real economic policies his poll numbers will kamikaze.

Someone just needs to get him to admit what tax deductions he'd close. It's already been determined that his "plan" is not feasible without either raising rates on the middle class or getting rid of some very popular deductions.

Every interviewer should be doing their best to try to force him to answer that question.

I agree. Without specifics, people could jump to conclusions like raising taxes on the middle class. His promise to close loopholes to make up the difference doesn't add up, so draw your own conclusions, Democrats. Gladly, say Democrats.

If he were a Democrat with that plan Republicans would probably conclude he plans to shut down the Department of Defense. Speak up, Romney.


He would, except if he does get into specifics it would actually be worse.
 
2012-09-23 05:51:14 PM  

shower_in_my_socks:


To be fair, Ted isn't the best thinker.
 
2012-09-23 05:53:59 PM  

Cletus C.: The economy is the soft underbelly of the Obama administration


Really? Would that be the economy that was losing 750,000 jobs per month when Obama took office? Would that be the economy that lost 3,600,000 jobs the year before Obama took office? Would that be the economy that is creating an average of 130,000 jobs per month under Obama? Would that be the economy that even while Europe and the rest of the world is struggling, we have still created 4.5 million jobs?
 
2012-09-23 05:55:32 PM  

Dinki: Cletus C.: The economy is the soft underbelly of the Obama administration

Really? Would that be the economy that was losing 750,000 jobs per month when Obama took office? Would that be the economy that lost 3,600,000 jobs the year before Obama took office? Would that be the economy that is creating an average of 130,000 jobs per month under Obama? Would that be the economy that even while Europe and the rest of the world is struggling, we have still created 4.5 million jobs?


You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.
 
2012-09-23 05:56:34 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: NeoCortex42: quatchi: Cletus C.: It is absolutely vital that Romney provide specifics on economic policies.

So you're saying he may as well give up then?

If Mitt provides specifics on his real economic policies his poll numbers will kamikaze.

Someone just needs to get him to admit what tax deductions he'd close. It's already been determined that his "plan" is not feasible without either raising rates on the middle class or getting rid of some very popular deductions.

Every interviewer should be doing their best to try to force him to answer that question.

I agree. Without specifics, people could jump to conclusions like raising taxes on the middle class. His promise to close loopholes to make up the difference doesn't add up, so draw your own conclusions, Democrats. Gladly, say Democrats.

If he were a Democrat with that plan Republicans would probably conclude he plans to shut down the Department of Defense. Speak up, Romney.

He would, except if he does get into specifics it would actually be worse.


Yet another conclusion we can jump to until he provides specifics.
 
2012-09-23 05:56:45 PM  

Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.


Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.
 
2012-09-23 05:57:30 PM  

Cletus C.: Yet another conclusion we can jump to until he provides specifics


It's September. When, exactly, do you expect Romney to magically come up with some specifics? If he didn't do it during the conventions, what makes you think he's capable of doing it now?
 
2012-09-23 05:58:46 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I have been assured that Obama is going to take all my guns away if he wins. I have a relative that is pissed at me for not taking him seriously in this matter.

This is going to be good.


Don't forget after of all of our guns are taken away, he'll call his secret mooslim friends to take our babby Jebus and our freedums away. And they will be on secret unmarked flying carpets.
 
2012-09-23 06:00:15 PM  
Best part from Scott Walker: "it's time to move FORWARD." Because the best way to defeat a candidate is to steal one of his campaign slogans.
 
2012-09-23 06:00:20 PM  
Romney and Ryan and Ryan both suffer from the same problem - the more you get to know them the less appealing they are. Both the party elite and Romney were counting on him being able to run as Generic Republican. I'm not sure why they thought this would pass muster. Ryan has almost the same problem in reverse - he wants to run as a Generic Movement Conservative, but the facts are he's just another amoral power seeker like Romney who is willing to jettison or adopt beliefs as the moment suits ("Ayn Rand? Never heard of her"). The fact that they are both thin skinned and especially peevish when reminded of their shared propensity for exaggeration and outright fabrication. If Obama were white, they wouldn't make 40% of the vote.
 
2012-09-23 06:03:55 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.


Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.
 
2012-09-23 06:04:54 PM  

ultraholland: I'm voting Romney simply because he has the courage to wear mom-jeans.


That's not what's horrifying about that picture. With all the scratch Romney has lying around, that's the stereo he bought?
 
2012-09-23 06:08:36 PM  

A Terrible Human: Asked how he planned to turn things around, Romney told CBS 60 Minutes: "Well, it doesn't need a turnaround." He added: "I've got a very effective campaign. It's doing a very good job."


But it's liberals who are in denial.
 
2012-09-23 06:08:53 PM  

Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.


Yeah, the downturn was one of the worst in history.
 
2012-09-23 06:09:03 PM  

Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.


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2012-09-23 06:09:17 PM  

Cletus C.: Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.



Recovery from what? I'm trying to remember... Hmmm... Oh yeah, the REPUBLICAN RECESSION. Started in 2007. You may remember McCain suspending his campaign because he was so scared shiatless about the REPUBLICAN RECESSION that was destroying the country. Sorry the guy you and your anti-American teahadist @ssholes have opposed at every turn didn't clean up your shiat sandwich fast enough. Farking moron trolls.

/ignored
 
2012-09-23 06:10:17 PM  

Guntram Shatterhand: Best part from Scott Walker: "it's time to move FORWARD." Because the best way to defeat a candidate is to steal one of his campaign slogans.


Doesn't his state have one of the slowest growing economies in the country right now?

He really doesn't have much room to talk.
 
2012-09-23 06:13:48 PM  
The US economy is the Titanic. Bush was the Captain and ran it into the iceberg. He and his first mate got fired and Obama took over a badly listing, close to sinking ship. Four years later instead of resting at the bottom of the sea the ship is getting closer to it's original cruising speed as it nears the harbor but instead of being grateful and learning from their mistakes, the GOP is claiming that not only could they have fixed it too, but they would now turn it into a speedboat if given another chance.
 
2012-09-23 06:24:18 PM  

Cletus C.: Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.


That's what America gets for voting in a bunch of Teatards in 2010.

Hopefully enough people have figured that out by now.

Not you, of course, just saying.
 
2012-09-23 06:26:44 PM  
The Republicans don't have a compelling economic message; thank goodness they can fall back on their foreign policy successes.
 
2012-09-23 06:29:00 PM  

jst3p: Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.

Yeah, the downturn was one of the worst in history.


Bush. Worked in 2008, new and improved for 2012.
 
2012-09-23 06:29:01 PM  
All I know is that four years ago I was working for a company that I hated. Got canned, spent a year living off of unemployment (thank you government), and now have the best job of my life. I love my current job, and while I don't make as much money, I also don't dread going to work every day.

So fark yeah, I'm better off than I was four years ago.
 
2012-09-23 06:29:08 PM  

ultraholland: [nyc.3432.voxcdn.com image 480x336]


I'm voting Romney simply because he has the courage to wear mom-jeans.

 

i.imgur.com

Well, there goes my ability to get a boner. Worst part... forever.
 
2012-09-23 06:29:26 PM  

Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.


Dumbest. Most-Inbred. Most-OBSTRUCTIONIST. Republican. Minorty. in. Senate. EVER. (ELLIPSES FOR EFFECT... ... ... ....)
 
2012-09-23 06:30:48 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Cletus C.: Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.


Recovery from what? I'm trying to remember... Hmmm... Oh yeah, the REPUBLICAN RECESSION. Started in 2007. You may remember McCain suspending his campaign because he was so scared shiatless about the REPUBLICAN RECESSION that was destroying the country. Sorry the guy you and your anti-American teahadist @ssholes have opposed at every turn didn't clean up your shiat sandwich fast enough. Farking moron trolls.

/ignored


If Obama wins a second term will it finally be his?
 
2012-09-23 06:34:43 PM  

Cletus C.: shower_in_my_socks: Cletus C.: Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.


Recovery from what? I'm trying to remember... Hmmm... Oh yeah, the REPUBLICAN RECESSION. Started in 2007. You may remember McCain suspending his campaign because he was so scared shiatless about the REPUBLICAN RECESSION that was destroying the country. Sorry the guy you and your anti-American teahadist @ssholes have opposed at every turn didn't clean up your shiat sandwich fast enough. Farking moron trolls.

/ignored

If Obama wins a second term will it finally be his?


Only if the trolls in the GOP don't actively pledge to thwart EVERYTHING he does like they did in Round 1.

Dude, this is the 1919 White Sox and the Eight Men Out are Boehner, Cantor, Rubio, McConnell, Rove, DeMint, Ryan and Armey. They have completely thrown the game for failure while simultaneously convincing simple folk that they haven't.
 
2012-09-23 06:35:44 PM  

themindiswatching: Obama's a lazy good for nothing but he's going to impose socialism on us during a second term? Wat.


Depends if he's sworn in on an odd or even day.
 
2012-09-23 06:36:12 PM  

Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.


Republican logic:
After playing with a vase and dropping it, Cletus C. says: "Hey, it only took me a couple seconds to break it. Why the hell is it taking you so long to glue it back together!?!"
 
2012-09-23 06:37:29 PM  

Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.


Hi, I'd like to introduce you to the Great Depression.
 
2012-09-23 06:40:17 PM  

Urbn: Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.

Republican logic:
After playing with a vase and dropping it, Cletus C. says: "Hey, it only took me a couple seconds to break it. Why the hell is it taking you so long to glue it back together!?!"


Perfect
 
2012-09-23 06:40:47 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.

Hi, I'd like to introduce you to the Great Depression.


The Great Depression will be his use of Paxil in 20 years once he realizes how f*cking atrocious his conservative leaders have been these past 4 years and how much they slowed the recovery.

Just remember trolls: Bush, 33rd best president ever and Obama, 14th best president according to historians.
 
2012-09-23 06:42:02 PM  

vartian: St_Francis_P:
Sometimes I have to remind myself how lucky I am that none of my relatives are like that.

Mine could give a shiat about guns, but they are furious they are not clearing a million dollars a year yet. Their families pull in around 200-300k, they live in absurd McMansions, they drive multiple new cards and have kids that get one of everything. And they are angry all of them time. They get angry when they hear about poor people having food stamps or healthcare or job placement assistance. "No one ever helped me!" they shout, forgetting how our great-grandmother arrived in Michigan after fleeing her home country of Armenia during the Turkish Genocide. How this country opened its arms to refugees with nothing but the clothes they wore and memories of dead villages.

They have everything, fume over people with nothing, and forget their own history as they curse immigrants. Christmas should be interesting this year.


I can tell your a real Armenian because even your fark handle ends in -ian
 
2012-09-23 06:43:06 PM  

Cletus C.: If Obama wins a second term will it finally be his?


Both sides own their own words and actions.

Obama has a record to run on.

The GOP have nothing.

Nada, bupkiss, zilch, squat, zip.

Deal with it.
 
2012-09-23 06:44:39 PM  

Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.


And yet Obama's running away with the election. How 'bout that?
 
2012-09-23 06:50:11 PM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.

And yet Obama's running away with the election. How 'bout that?


It's that goddamn liberal media! Reporting on facts, rather than Invisible Obama!
 
2012-09-23 06:51:01 PM  
Now wait a minute, I've been assured by the Republicans' smartest people that the economy is still in a recession and everyone is worse off because Hussein is trying to cripple our country so that the UN can take it over and confiscate our guns. Which I thought was strange because not only did I find another job, most of my friends did as well.

Who didn't get their jobs back? High school dropouts and black people. Best of luck winning the latter. Really.
 
2012-09-23 06:51:32 PM  

coeyagi: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.

Hi, I'd like to introduce you to the Great Depression.

The Great Depression will be his use of Paxil in 20 years once he realizes how f*cking atrocious his conservative leaders have been these past 4 years and how much they slowed the recovery.

Just remember trolls: Bush, 33rd best president ever and Obama, 14th best president according to historians.


No, no, no. Bush was the 33rd best president ever, but Obama is the 30th worst.
 
2012-09-23 06:51:40 PM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.

And yet Obama's running away with the election. How 'bout that?


Then how come all the liberal lamestream media types tell me the race is neck and neck?

Ratings? Nah, they don't care about that.
 
2012-09-23 06:58:28 PM  

indylaw: Now wait a minute, I've been assured by the Republicans' smartest people that the economy is still in a recession and everyone is worse off because Hussein is trying to cripple our country so that the UN can take it over and confiscate our guns. Which I thought was strange because not only did I find another job, most of my friends did as well.

Who didn't get their jobs back? High school dropouts and black people. Best of luck winning the latter. Really.


I am, in fact, financially better off than I was 4 years ago, thanks for asking Mitt!
 
2012-09-23 07:08:17 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: vartian: They have everything, fume over people with nothing, and forget their own history as they curse immigrants.

That seems to be pretty much par for the course for 3rd/4th generation immigrants at this point.


We had nothing and we made it! So can you!

Uh...why did you start with nothing?

My great-grandparents came over here in the bottom of a cattle boat from Italy! My granddad worked 50 years in the coal mines thanks to the United Mineworkers Union! My dad went to college on the GI Bill! I went to college on an athletic scholarship and got my MBA! We had NOTHING! Nobody helped us! We worked our asses off for everything!! I hate those immigrant freeloading scum! They shouldn't get any breaks!

Uh...okay. I'll just go sit over here.
 
2012-09-23 07:09:27 PM  

Urbn: Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.

Republican logic:
After playing with a vase and dropping it, Cletus C. says: "Hey, it only took me a couple seconds to break it. Why the hell is it taking you so long to glue it back together!?!"


I like to think of it as someone judging the performance of a fireman by a picture of what their house looked like before it started to burn.
 
2012-09-23 07:10:43 PM  
But being reductive, vague, obstructionists has worked so WELL for the last four years. Whattya mean we actually need to start talking about WHAT we'd do differently and not just cast blame???
 
2012-09-23 07:11:14 PM  
cameroncrazy1984: It's that goddamn liberal media!

I'm actually convinced Romney is a liberal plant and the modern GOP was taken over by Dems to ensure reelection. It's so diabolically fiendish.
 
2012-09-23 07:13:50 PM  

Dinki: vartian: "No one ever helped me!" they shou

And I'm betting they grew up in a decent house in a decent neighborhood, with two parents, always had enough food, went to decent schools, and probably had help getting their first job from Dad.


Bingo.
 
2012-09-23 07:16:57 PM  

Cletus C.: Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.


That's a very important word there, RECOVERY.
 
2012-09-23 07:17:13 PM  

quatchi: Cletus C.: If Obama wins a second term will it finally be his?

Both sides own their own words and actions.

Obama has a record to run on.

The GOP have nothing.

Nada, bupkiss, zilch, squat, zip.

Deal with it.


Don't be absurd! Romney is running on his record as a pro-choice, Northeastern moderate who supports gun control, stem-cell research, raising the minimum wage, regulation of greenhouse gas emissions and gay marriage. Oh, and I think he did something nice involving health care as governor, but I can't remember all the details. There's no way he can lose with a record like that to run on, which is why the Republican base is so fired up!
 
2012-09-23 07:19:38 PM  

theorellior: ultraholland: I'm voting Romney simply because he has the courage to wear mom-jeans.

That's not what's horrifying about that picture. With all the scratch Romney has lying around, that's the stereo he bought?


Yeah, I was wondering about that myself... Jesus, I think that thing went for abut a C-Note back in '88 when I graduated...
 
2012-09-23 07:19:47 PM  

ultraholland: cameroncrazy1984: It's that goddamn liberal media!

I'm actually convinced Romney is a liberal plant and the modern GOP was taken over by Dems to ensure reelection. It's so diabolically fiendish.


No, it's much more complicated than that.
 
2012-09-23 07:21:50 PM  

Cletus C.: If Obama wins a second term will it finally be his?


Nope, because the Recession has been over since summer of '09. The recovery will be his, and the fact that you are willing to admit that there IS a recovery is all that matters.
 
2012-09-23 07:23:50 PM  

Paul Baumer: Urbn: Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.

Republican logic:
After playing with a vase and dropping it, Cletus C. says: "Hey, it only took me a couple seconds to break it. Why the hell is it taking you so long to glue it back together!?!"

I like to think of it as someone judging the performance of a fireman by a picture of what their house looked like before it started to burn.


While slashing the fire-hose to prove his point about the ineffectiveness of the Fire Department.
 
2012-09-23 07:24:17 PM  

milesl: The last 4 years has been horrible. Nice to see subby is a media tool.


Yeah, climbing out of the bush depression has been hell, and now that things are starting to get better, the people who got us in trouble want a do-over, only this time, they want to pull us into equally messy war.
 
2012-09-23 07:25:11 PM  

Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.


GOP Mission Accomplished.
 
2012-09-23 07:25:51 PM  

Cletus C.: If Obama wins a second term will it finally be his?


NO. Do you realize that a "recession" is a mathematically defined term? Do you understand that it began in 2007 and ended in June of 2009? That's not a matter of opinion -- it's based on how the term "recession" is defined. Do you get that something that happened on someone else's watch and was over, BY DEFINITION, just a few months after Obama took office is not, and never will be, "Obama's Recession"?

We are not in a recession now. We haven't been in one for most of Obama's term. You don't even know what a recession is, so stop typing, and go read a farking book.
 
2012-09-23 07:27:46 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.

Hi, I'd like to introduce you to the Great Depression.


I'm reading about the Pennsylvania Railroad and the Panic of 1873 was still severely limiting business in 1879 because there was no way to control rampant speculation and dirty dealings in railroad stocks. They bounced the economy around like a pingpong ball into the 1880s.
 
2012-09-23 07:28:13 PM  
The Republican challenge was: are you better off than four years ago?

Our IRA was down 40% during the final 18 months of the Bush administration. It began to recover immediately after the election and within six months of Obama taking office had largely regained its full value.

It is up 10% this year -- except for the international stocks which are up only about 2%. And the dollar is stronger (one reason international stocks have lagged for two years).

They'd probably be stronger but John Boehner now says he wasn't serious about previous deficit reduction agreements.
 
2012-09-23 07:28:40 PM  

Lorelle: Marcus Aurelius: I have been assured that Obama is going to take all my guns away if he wins. I have a relative that is pissed at me for not taking him seriously in this matter.

This is going to be good.

So he's going to vote for the guy who signed a permanent assault weapons ban into law while governor of Massachusetts??


Doesn't matter. They all know how Obama really feels about guns in his heart of hearts, and that matters much more than any petty actions the candidates might of might not have taken.
 
2012-09-23 07:29:45 PM  

NeoCortex42: Lorelle: Marcus Aurelius: I have been assured that Obama is going to take all my guns away if he wins. I have a relative that is pissed at me for not taking him seriously in this matter.

This is going to be good.

So he's going to vote for the guy who signed a permanent assault weapons ban into law while governor of Massachusetts??

I've had this discussion my with family's tea partier. When I bring up the fact that only Romney has restricted gun use, I'm told it's a liberal media lie. Even if I use specific facts like the AWB, it doesn't matter.

People that exist in the Fox News echo chamber simply attribute any contradiction in facts to liberal lies. Either the facts agree with their views, or they're not really facts.


I have an aunt like this. She drinks up the Fox News milkshake and chases it with a a shot of Breitbart Kool Aid. Anything negative about Obama is automatically true, and anything that contradicts it are "lies coked up by the Socialist Atheist Gay Muslim conspiracy".

If Sean Hannity said that Obama was really a transsexual alien dwarf, I bet she'd believe that too.

I suspect she was dropped on her head several times as a baby and ate paint chips as a toddler.
 
2012-09-23 07:30:12 PM  

St_Francis_P: The Romney campaign has premised much of its message on Obama's economic record and has repeatedly refused to flesh out detailed policy proposals on issues from tax reform to immigration reform. The Romney campaign recently promised to reveal more specifics about what Romney would do in office, but has been slow to provide them.

Aren't the details supposed to be secret, but he'll reveal them once he's President?


Even then, you'll need Seer Stones to decode the documents.
 
2012-09-23 07:32:37 PM  
FTA: New York Times columnist David Brooks advised Romney take an "extremely wonky" approach.

won·ky/ˈwäNGkē/
Adjective:

Crooked; off-center; askew.
(of a thing) Unsteady; shaky: "sitting on wonky stools".


So, this is different how?
 
2012-09-23 07:34:38 PM  

Cletus C.: If Obama wins a second term will it finally be his?


I don't know... Maybe.

If eight years of 'buh...buh...BUT CLINTON!!!' during the entire Bush administration are any indication, maybe not.
 
2012-09-23 07:34:47 PM  

HighOnCraic: quatchi: Cletus C.: If Obama wins a second term will it finally be his?

Both sides own their own words and actions.

Obama has a record to run on.

The GOP have nothing.

Nada, bupkiss, zilch, squat, zip.

Deal with it.


Don't be absurd! Romney is running on his record as a pro-choice, Northeastern moderate who supports gun control, stem-cell research, raising the minimum wage, regulation of greenhouse gas emissions and gay marriage. Oh, and I think he did something nice involving health care as governor, but I can't remember all the details. There's no way he can lose with a record like that to run on, which is why the Republican base is so fired up!


I LOL'd.

Hey, ya know what would make it a lot easier for people to find out if Mitt Romney is doing better now than he was 4 years ago?

^__^
 
2012-09-23 07:44:09 PM  

Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.


It's hard to clean up a gigantic pile of shiat when the people responsible for the pile of shiat keep trying to take away the shovel.
 
2012-09-23 07:47:58 PM  

Skanque: ultraholland: [nyc.3432.voxcdn.com image 480x336]


I'm voting Romney simply because he has the courage to wear mom-jeans.

Oh good lord. Reminds me of my elementary school music teacher, who pulled her pants up to midway between her waist and breasts. Looked like her vagina was HUGE.


Are you saying Romney has a huge vagina?
 
2012-09-23 07:48:04 PM  

quatchi: I can't believe the GOP's entire cunning plan was to dig in their heels, act like petulant children and then point to the mess they largely created and never lifted a finger to clean up and say "Obama's fault, vote for us".

Sad thing is how many morans this crap actually works on.


Earth sucks.
 
2012-09-23 07:59:14 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Cletus C.: If Obama wins a second term will it finally be his?

NO. Do you realize that a "recession" is a mathematically defined term? Do you understand that it began in 2007 and ended in June of 2009? That's not a matter of opinion -- it's based on how the term "recession" is defined. Do you get that something that happened on someone else's watch and was over, BY DEFINITION, just a few months after Obama took office is not, and never will be, "Obama's Recession"?

We are not in a recession now. We haven't been in one for most of Obama's term. You don't even know what a recession is, so stop typing, and go read a farking book.


We have a "smartest" and a "funniest" button. I think Cletus C was begging for a "stupidest" and thank you to showers_in_socks for pointing out why.
 
2012-09-23 08:04:26 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.

Hi, I'd like to introduce you to the Great Depression.

I'm reading about the Pennsylvania Railroad and the Panic of 1873 was still severely limiting business in 1879 because there was no way to control rampant speculation and dirty dealings in railroad stocks. They bounced the economy around like a pingpong ball into the 1880s.


Oh yeah. If the great depression had not happened, we would definitely still be talking about that one.
 
2012-09-23 08:20:13 PM  
Mittens had better drop his cock and grab his socks if he wants a chance to win in November.
 
2012-09-23 08:22:29 PM  

quatchi: Cletus C.: If Obama wins a second term will it finally be his?

Both sides own their own words and actions.

Obama has a record to run on.

The GOP have nothing.


No, no, the GOP do have a record to run on - it's just happens to be awful.

Anyone who says that Obama, being a Democrat, is destroying the economy, let me point out that there have been three recessions in the past 30 years - 1982, 1990, and 2007, and all three occurred under Republican presidents. The only real period of massive economic growth in there happened in the mid-late 1990s, under ... who? A Democrat. The Republicans have no credibility - none - when it comes to the economy, and their supporters may kindly STFU now.
 
2012-09-23 08:36:09 PM  
"Be a PowerPoint guy" must be the worst advice to a presidential candidate ever. NOBODY likes PowerPoint. NOBODY.
 
2012-09-23 09:12:18 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Dwight_Yeast: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.

Hi, I'd like to introduce you to the Great Depression.

I'm reading about the Pennsylvania Railroad and the Panic of 1873 was still severely limiting business in 1879 because there was no way to control rampant speculation and dirty dealings in railroad stocks. They bounced the economy around like a pingpong ball into the 1880s.

Oh yeah. If the great depression had not happened, we would definitely still be talking about that one.


And then, of course, came the Panic of 1893.
 
2012-09-23 09:18:42 PM  
Romney's economic plan is as clear as Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.
 
2012-09-23 09:29:49 PM  

Bschott007: Romney's economic plan is as clear as Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.


Shaka, when the taxes fell.
 
2012-09-23 09:32:18 PM  

Bschott007: Romney's economic plan is as clear as Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.


I have a different episode in mind:


Reporter: Why are you running for president?

Romney: We look for things.

Reporter: What were you looking for?

Reporter: Things we need.

Reporter: Can you be more specific?

Romney: Things that make economy go. We need help.
 
2012-09-23 09:33:14 PM  

Bschott007: Romney's economic plan is as clear as Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.


Obama, his army with fists open.
 
2012-09-23 09:33:51 PM  
Tonight my dyed in the wool teabagger co-worker conceded the election.

It's over.
 
2012-09-23 09:44:48 PM  

Tor_Eckman: Tonight my dyed in the wool teabagger co-worker conceded the election.

It's over.



Come on! Give some details! What happened--did he slug his wife? Gnash his teeth and wail to the heavens? Fall over drunk and sobbing? Put on his pillowcase hat? Come on!!
 
2012-09-23 09:46:44 PM  
LordJiro:

It's hard to clean up a gigantic pile of shiat when the people responsible
for the pile of shiat keep trying to take away the shovel.
 
2012-09-23 09:47:04 PM  

LasersHurt: Bschott007: Romney's economic plan is as clear as Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.

Shaka, when the taxes fell.


HighOnCraic: Bschott007: Romney's economic plan is as clear as Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.

I have a different episode in mind:


Reporter: Why are you running for president?

Romney: We look for things.

Reporter: What were you looking for?

Reporter: Things we need.

Reporter: Can you be more specific?

Romney: Things that make economy go. We need help.


Kumana Wanalaia: Bschott007: Romney's economic plan is as clear as Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.

Obama, his army with fists open.


Bschott, his soft drink on the screen.

/funnied and greened all
 
2012-09-23 10:06:58 PM  

Mikey1969: Cletus C.: Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.

That's a very important word there, RECOVERY.


As opposed to the freefall that he was presented with...

The same freefall conditions that Romney favors. You know, because if companies go under, and there aren't American firms to absorb their competitors, it's good when foreign or multinats come in to scoop up properties and assets, because the cash that exports does Americans so much good when it's socked away in foreign banks. It's science. Especially when those same banks don't really invest much here, save in the derivatives and less than actual financial devices...
 
2012-09-23 10:12:27 PM  

Bschott007: Shaka


55secretstreet.typepad.com
 
2012-09-23 10:13:24 PM  

Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.


Thanks in no small part to the GOP in Congress who have done everything they can to stop any sort of legislation to help improve the economy. The latest one? The $1 billion veterans jobs bill that FOUR GOP senators were involved in co-writing, which these same four senators then voted against and forced the legislation to die in cloture. Yeah, if you want to maket he recovery more robust and faster, don't vote for any of the GOP congresscritters.
 
2012-09-23 10:27:22 PM  

Cargo: Tor_Eckman: Tonight my dyed in the wool teabagger co-worker conceded the election.

It's over.


Come on! Give some details! What happened--did he slug his wife? Gnash his teeth and wail to the heavens? Fall over drunk and sobbing? Put on his pillowcase hat? Come on!!


I truly don't know what the tipping point was. I have been avoiding conversations with him lately because he is such a nut. But he's been off for a week or so, and when he came in tonight he just said without provocation that he's given up on supporting this ticket. He said he still plans on going postal after the election (his exact words), but he now knows that Obama is going to have a second term. It was very strange. But he is a pretty good example of the anyone but Obama crowd, and for him to give up now is a pretty good indication that Romney doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell.
 
2012-09-23 10:44:51 PM  

dericwater: Cletus C.: cameroncrazy1984: Cletus C.: You are correct. It would be the economy with an 8.3 percent unemployment rate. That's the one.

Ah yes, the one that was at 9.7% before the stimulus. Thanks for pointing that out.

Slowest. Most Sluggish. Most Fragile. Recovery. Ever.

Thanks in no small part to the GOP in Congress who have done everything they can to stop any sort of legislation to help improve the economy. The latest one? The $1 billion veterans jobs bill that FOUR GOP senators were involved in co-writing, which these same four senators then voted against and forced the legislation to die in cloture. Yeah, if you want to maket he recovery more robust and faster, don't vote for any of the GOP congresscritters.


They'll see America completely destroyed before they do anything to help while Obama's in office. It's truly amazing the shiat they've pulled the last four years then turn around and scream about Obama not getting done.

Of course, what else do you expect form the people who said the #1 most important job ever was to make Obama's presidency a one-term deal?
 
2012-09-23 10:48:01 PM  

Bschott007: Kumana Wanalaia: Bschott007: Romney's economic plan is as clear as Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.

Obama, his army with fists open.

Bschott, his soft drink on the screen.

/funnied and greened all



Romney, his lemon wet good.
 
2012-09-23 10:59:55 PM  

hubiestubert: As opposed to the freefall that he was presented with...


Yep, the recovery may not be stellar, but at least it is a recovery. These GOP asshats are harming the country more than any political group has in the last 50 years, IMHO.
 
2012-09-23 11:13:10 PM  
Romney, his taxes unfurled!
 
2012-09-23 11:31:14 PM  

Herb Utsmelz: FTA: New York Times columnist David Brooks advised Romney take an "extremely wonky" approach.

won·ky/ˈwäNGkē/
Adjective:

Crooked; off-center; askew.
(of a thing) Unsteady; shaky: "sitting on wonky stools".

So, this is different how?


So far, it's not been an "approach". More like a wobble.
 
2012-09-23 11:44:34 PM  
Is ther a Fark HOF for the headline least related to the acutal story?
 
2012-09-24 12:10:25 AM  

Mikey1969: So does this mean that the GOP is basically conceding the race? It seems a bit late for a major tactical shift like this, if you ask me...


Concede? In their moment of triumph?
 
2012-09-24 12:41:42 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: I have been assured that Obama is going to take all my guns away if he wins. I have a relative that is pissed at me for not taking him seriously in this matter.

This is going to be good.


I own an assault rifle. I am not worried in the least. It's absurd to think Obama's going to take away our guns.
 
2012-09-24 01:07:28 AM  

vygramul: Marcus Aurelius: I have been assured that Obama is going to take all my guns away if he wins. I have a relative that is pissed at me for not taking him seriously in this matter.

This is going to be good.

I own an assault rifle. I am not worried in the least. It's absurd to think Obama's going to take away our guns.


I don't own any guns....but doesn't the mere fact that you own one sort of preclude anyone "taking" it away from you, except from your cold dead hands?
 
2012-09-24 01:17:11 AM  
mscleo


I don't know how long you have been paying into it but,.......... it's INSURANCE, man. You paid for it. It's not an "entitlement". I was forced to take it in 2009, after AMD shipped my entire division to Shanghai. The CEO got a 2 million dollar bonus for being forced to retire after taking the company from 5 billion to 800 million. This was after he destroyed Motorola.

/Hector the sector wrecker.....
 
2012-09-24 01:22:57 AM  

Thigvald the Big-Balled: Mikey1969: So does this mean that the GOP is basically conceding the race? It seems a bit late for a major tactical shift like this, if you ask me...

Concede? In their moment of triumph?


You know what's truly farked up about that story? The most unbelievable part? The fact that after this obvious bullshiat the race in Florida would be considered 'close' among the Latino community. What in God's name does the GOP have to offer them, except insults and harassment?

I just don't understand people sometimes.
 
2012-09-24 02:54:41 AM  
Republicans have figured out that now they have a Fox news in their back pocket they can do anything they want when in office and can spin it any way. As Gov Scott Walker, you can do anything as long as it isn't illegal and stay in office even after a recall
 
2012-09-24 05:12:00 AM  
Why would a person vote for the guy the cast of Honey Boo Boo would vote for? That more than anything should keep anybody with more than a middle school education far away from the GOP ticket.
 
2012-09-24 06:04:40 AM  
I'm still baffled as to how the well-oiled, disciplined machine that is the GOP has picked such weak candidates 2 (or 3) times in a row. They're completely capable of knee-capping congress and framing the media's topics on a day-to-day basis, but their presidents (and vice presidents) lack charisma to the point of being unelectable? Who's in charge of this beast?
 
2012-09-24 07:12:35 AM  
Is it just me or is Reince Priebus making Michael Steele look competent as RNC Chairman? Seriously.
 
2012-09-24 07:58:40 AM  
The issue as I see it is that his "plan" is pretty grim:

1. Roll back health care reform. Now, Obamacare is unpopular, but few people want a complete repeal, with pre-existing conditions preventing coverage and all that. But that's what Romney offers.

2. Means testing Social Security and Medicare - this might be the dumbest idea ever. It disincentivizes retirement planning and turns two popular social insurance programs into welfare programs.

3. Increase military spending. Outside of Hampton Roads, San Diego, and the wackiest part of his base, this rings exceedingly flat.
 
2012-09-24 08:01:54 AM  

moothemagiccow: I'm still baffled as to how the well-oiled, disciplined machine that is the GOP has picked such weak candidates 2 (or 3) times in a row. They're completely capable of knee-capping congress and framing the media's topics on a day-to-day basis, but their presidents (and vice presidents) lack charisma to the point of being unelectable? Who's in charge of this beast?


Limbaugh and people of his ilk. If you can stir 25% of the people in the country to some sort of daily outrage, it gets good ratings, and allows for a lot roadblocks. But you can't win elections with a platform driven by that shiat.
 
2012-09-24 08:37:29 AM  

St_Francis_P: The Romney campaign has premised much of its message on Obama's economic record and has repeatedly refused to flesh out detailed policy proposals on issues from tax reform to immigration reform. The Romney campaign recently promised to reveal more specifics about what Romney would do in office, but has been slow to provide them.

Aren't the details supposed to be secret, but he'll reveal them once he's President?


He is going to use John McCain's secret plan to fix the economy. You know, the one that he didn't get to implement because he lost the election.
 
2012-09-24 09:37:35 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: I'm reading about the Pennsylvania Railroad and the Panic of 1873 was still severely limiting business in 1879 because there was no way to control rampant speculation and dirty dealings in railroad stocks. They bounced the economy around like a pingpong ball into the 1880s.


Dirty dealings in railroad stocks? Approves:
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-09-24 09:51:56 AM  

Gyrfalcon: vygramul: Marcus Aurelius: I have been assured that Obama is going to take all my guns away if he wins. I have a relative that is pissed at me for not taking him seriously in this matter.

This is going to be good.

I own an assault rifle. I am not worried in the least. It's absurd to think Obama's going to take away our guns.

I don't own any guns....but doesn't the mere fact that you own one sort of preclude anyone "taking" it away from you, except from your cold dead hands?


They can't take away my guns if I don't own any.
 
2012-09-24 09:53:40 AM  

Babwa Wawa: The issue as I see it is that his "plan" is pretty grim:

1. Roll back health care reform. Now, Obamacare is unpopular, but few people want a complete repeal, with pre-existing conditions preventing coverage and all that. But that's what Romney offers.

2. Means testing Social Security and Medicare - this might be the dumbest idea ever. It disincentivizes retirement planning and turns two popular social insurance programs into welfare programs.

3. Increase military spending. Outside of Hampton Roads, San Diego, and the wackiest part of his base, this rings exceedingly flat.


2. You and I must have very different understandings of what means testing means.
 
2012-09-24 09:54:56 AM  
All Obama really needs to do is keep hammering on the "You didn't built it"- drum. The arrogance of the rich in denying it is better than any other wedge issue could be. The problem lies in the articulation. After the rich offer their rebuttal, all that needs to be said is, "Sure, you risked the money. But where would you be without everybody and everything you've invested your money to exploit?"
 
2012-09-24 10:17:03 AM  

vygramul: 2. You and I must have very different understandings of what means testing means.


Yeah, I don't understand how means testing SS would "disincentivize retirement planning" any more than the current situation.
 
2012-09-24 10:25:01 AM  

vygramul: 2. You and I must have very different understandings of what means testing means.


You don't really make much of a point, but "means test" were words that Mitt used on 60 minutes last night to describe his plan, and has used repeatedly lately. The people in their mid-30s through their 40s right now are going to get f*cked pretty badly - already my expected benefits are ~60% of my contribution (even without considering the loss of investment opportunity). Still it's something. Under Mitten's plan, retirement income I have will be offset by a decrease in SS/Medicare benefits. It a pretty clear disincentive to saving for retirement.

But the real long term danger is this: the more you decouple contributions from benefits, the more it looks and acts like a welfare program rather than a social insurance program. Once SS and Medicare look and act like welfare, it will be cut like a welfare program - repeatedly and viciously until only a shell of it remains.
 
2012-09-24 10:37:52 AM  

Babwa Wawa: vygramul: 2. You and I must have very different understandings of what means testing means.

You don't really make much of a point, but "means test" were words that Mitt used on 60 minutes last night to describe his plan, and has used repeatedly lately. The people in their mid-30s through their 40s right now are going to get f*cked pretty badly - already my expected benefits are ~60% of my contribution (even without considering the loss of investment opportunity). Still it's something. Under Mitten's plan, retirement income I have will be offset by a decrease in SS/Medicare benefits. It a pretty clear disincentive to saving for retirement.

But the real long term danger is this: the more you decouple contributions from benefits, the more it looks and acts like a welfare program rather than a social insurance program. Once SS and Medicare look and act like welfare, it will be cut like a welfare program - repeatedly and viciously until only a shell of it remains.


Ah - I see. I know Democrats made this proposal, too, but the means test was so high, it didn't affect anyone who needed it. ie - if you make $1m gross income from all sources per year, you don't get SS or Medicare. I doubt THAT means test would lead to a welfare state.
 
2012-09-24 11:00:16 AM  

vygramul: Ah - I see. I know Democrats made this proposal, too, but the means test was so high, it didn't affect anyone who needed it. ie - if you make $1m gross income from all sources per year, you don't get SS or Medicare. I doubt THAT means test would lead to a welfare state.


It's a bad idea no matter who proposes it.

The moral thing to do is to couple future benefits to contributions at a generational level. The boomers, who deliberately and knowingly undercontributed to SS by 27% and caused the crisis, should see their benefits reduced accordingly.

More realistically, it'll be the following generation that pays for it through increased taxes, or reduced benefits. We should not structurally change the program just because the boomer generation decided to vote themselves a break.
 
2012-09-24 01:39:32 PM  

FlippityFlap: mscleo

I don't know how long you have been paying into it but,.......... it's INSURANCE, man. You paid for it. It's not an "entitlement". I was forced to take it in 2009, after AMD shipped my entire division to Shanghai. The CEO got a 2 million dollar bonus for being forced to retire after taking the company from 5 billion to 800 million. This was after he destroyed Motorola.

/Hector the sector wrecker.....


Wrong. I usually post the California EDD's explanation, but I found the Texas one, just for you.

What is Unemployment Insurance (UI)?
Unemployment Insurance (UI) is an employer-paid program that pays benefits to qualified workers unemployed through no fault of their own. The Texas Workforce Commission (TWC) pays temporary financial help based on workers' previous earnings, while they are looking for other work. Employer taxes and reimbursements support the Unemployment Trust Fund. Employers cannot deduct any money from employees' paychecks to pay for this program. Apply for UI benefits anytime online or call the TWC Tele-Center nearest you.

/tired of hearing people spout this bit of misinformation like it's gospel
 
2012-09-24 09:29:38 PM  

Babwa Wawa: The issue as I see it is that his "plan" is pretty grim:

1. Roll back health care reform. Now, Obamacare is unpopular, but few people want a complete repeal, with pre-existing conditions preventing coverage and all that. But that's what Romney offers.


Nobody said a word of negativity when Romney installed Romneycare in Massachusetts. But the moment Obama looked at it, liked it, and decided to make it national, the right went batshiat insane. It's seriously some of the craziest shiat I've ever seen, the way Romney and every other right-winger immediately denounced "Obamacare" as something the Devil created when it was Romney inspired by a neutral group that created it in the first place, and Obama changed nary a thing about it. And when you explain the nuances of Romneycare to people against it who don't know about it, most of them go from anti- to pro-.

It's just more of the "do anything to make Obama look bad and ruin America in the process" bullshiat the GOP and right insist on doing instead of anything intelligent.
 
2012-09-24 10:29:33 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: It's just more of the "do anything to make Obama look bad and ruin America in the process" bullshiat the GOP and right insist on doing instead of anything intelligent.


There are good reasons not to like Obamacare. Hell, I don't really like it - it's a handout to insurance companies, does little to control costs, and is not truly universal. I'd have much preferred single payer or at least Obamacare with a public option.

The general consensus, however, is that there are problems with our health care market. Romney is willing to go on 60 Minutes and explain his stance on universal health care with amounts to:

"Well, we do provide care for people who don't have insurance, people -- we -- if someone has a heart attack, they don't sit in their apartment and -- and die. We -- we pick them up in an ambulance, and take them to the hospital, and give them care."

That simply doesn't pass the sniff test for anyone outside of his most conservative base. But he's handcuffed. He can't even admit to deficiencies in our health care market, much less propose any sort of reform, because he's hostage to his base. And this holds true for pretty much every divisive issue - immigration, abortion, defense spending. The GOP platform positions on all of these are incredibly out of touch.

As such, it's no wonder the GOP is having such a hard time unseating a relatively weak incumbent.
 
2012-09-25 02:43:18 AM  

Babwa Wawa: Keizer_Ghidorah: It's just more of the "do anything to make Obama look bad and ruin America in the process" bullshiat the GOP and right insist on doing instead of anything intelligent.

There are good reasons not to like Obamacare. Hell, I don't really like it - it's a handout to insurance companies, does little to control costs, and is not truly universal. I'd have much preferred single payer or at least Obamacare with a public option.

The general consensus, however, is that there are problems with our health care market. Romney is willing to go on 60 Minutes and explain his stance on universal health care with amounts to:

"Well, we do provide care for people who don't have insurance, people -- we -- if someone has a heart attack, they don't sit in their apartment and -- and die. We -- we pick them up in an ambulance, and take them to the hospital, and give them care."

That simply doesn't pass the sniff test for anyone outside of his most conservative base. But he's handcuffed. He can't even admit to deficiencies in our health care market, much less propose any sort of reform, because he's hostage to his base. And this holds true for pretty much every divisive issue - immigration, abortion, defense spending. The GOP platform positions on all of these are incredibly out of touch.

As such, it's no wonder the GOP is having such a hard time unseating a relatively weak incumbent.


With the way the right stonewalls and filibusts everything Obama tries to do, it's a miracle Romneycare managed to get through. Pretty sure he'd like to do more, but with the assholes in the legislative branch anything more ambitious is gonna have to wait.

Considering Romney came up with it, I'm sure it has some flaws. But Obama thought it was good enough for the country, and no one complained about it at the state level. If it was so horrible you think people would have said something in Massachusetts. As it stands Romneycare is better than what we've got right now, and the rough spots can be smoothed over over time (if the retards allow it to be).
 
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