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(Toledo Blade)   Election season is in the air, as newspaper-reading conservatives begin their ritual letters-to-the-editor complaining about "Doonesbury"   (toledoblade.com) divider line 171
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2012-09-23 05:03:36 PM

jenlen: It was explained, just read The Death Cookie


whatsupchuck: Do they still run Johnny Hart's B.C.? That was frequently on the conservative side.


If you stop reading after the first two panels then all of fundies are equally burned by that tract.
 
2012-09-23 05:05:02 PM

REO-Weedwagon: There's a horrible Romney ad running here in my battleground state of an old man sitting in a warehouse complaining that with Obama it's hard to know what's "coming down the pike." What is a "pike", and why is the term used almost exclusively by whiny old people?


Did he have an onion on his belt?
 
2012-09-23 05:07:01 PM

Lionel Mandrake: St_Francis_P: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Given that even the Catholic Church gave it's a-okay to Evolution by Natural Selection and the Big Bang Theory (almost typed "Big Band Theory", which I'd be okay with, too), any thinking Christian should be fairly convinced at this point that "creationism" is not synonymous with being Christian.

Don't be silly, Catholics aren't even Christians. Jack Chick explains: Are Roman Catholics Christians?

Yeah, that's a pretty good one, but it's no DEATH COOKIE


Chick explains it all so well!
 
2012-09-23 05:07:48 PM

Malacon: jenlen:

It was explained, just read The Death Cookie


*clicks*
*reads*

No, it wasn't.


In short, protestants took out the books of the bible that interfered with their worldview, decided they wanted their holy men to be able to hit dat ass like the angry fist of God, and saw that this was good and that everyone else was wrong. And going to hell. The end.
 
2012-09-23 05:07:53 PM

jaytkay: gee I don't understand why conservative comics don't get better distribution

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zipmeme.com
 
2012-09-23 05:08:09 PM

King Something: /yes, Mormons are Christians
//it may be a very bizarre and unorthodox interpretation of Christianity, what with the magic bloomers, the gold plates, heaven being a galaxy with a stupid number of planets, and the whole thing about Native Americans being a long-lost tribe of Israelites, but they still self-identify as Christians


I could self-identify as a walrus but that doesn't make it true.
 
2012-09-23 05:08:25 PM
t2.gstatic.com
Toledoan Helen Kieswetter is upset with Doonesbury for a different reason. She was "mortally offended" by last Sunday's strip, which featured a parody of a science teacher forced to teach what those opposed to the theory of evolution call creationism.
 
2012-09-23 05:09:14 PM

jaytkay: gee I don't understand why conservative comics don't get better distribution

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I love this, where can i see more?
 
2012-09-23 05:10:12 PM

CanuckInCA: jaytkay: gee I don't understand why conservative comics don't get better distribution

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I love this, where can i see more?


It can be found in the bowels of the internet, you must search the shadow from whence it came
 
2012-09-23 05:10:13 PM

MacEnvy: Malacon: jenlen:

It was explained, just read The Death Cookie


*clicks*
*reads*

No, it wasn't.

Did you read the whole thing? It's an extended explanation for why evangelicals consider Catholics to be idol-worshipers and Papists, not Christians. It's kooky, but it's a pretty standard viewpoint for those folks.


Maybe I just don't know anything about Evangicals, because that "comic" seems to suggest that Catholicism isn't legit because they using communion wafer and wine as representations of of the Body and Blood of Jesus, and the idea that it's just a wafer until the Priest blesses it.

My confusion here arises from the fact that just about everyone I know who is not Catholic, but is still some denomination of Christianity, has Holy Communion, where they engage is virtually identical rituals. I've been to my friends churches and was also struck by how so much was different, but the Eucharist was damn near spot on (though my Lutheran friends got to drink the wine).
 
2012-09-23 05:14:10 PM

jaytkay: gee I don't understand why conservative comics don't get better distribution

[gopusa.com image 500x398]

[www.gopusa.com image 500x398]


Is this some sort of parody of lefties making fun of the Liberal most conservatives have in their head? If so, then bravo.

/My daughter is going to dress up as baby Lenin this year. The most adorable Commie.
 
2012-09-23 05:14:59 PM

bindlestiff2600: i suppose theres a chance
that republicans could regain the status of past days
but i doubt it

as for now

republican=butthurt


Republicans have become braindead on-off machines in the tradition of theìr King Limbaugh l. Democrats bad; Republicans good. Stick it to the libs! Who needs a brain when it's more fun to torment those who want to do good for America? Do-gooders deserve to be bullied! Like that pìpsqueak Sandra Fluke. Shut! Slut! Slut!
 
2012-09-23 05:15:24 PM

REO-Weedwagon: There's a horrible Romney ad running here in my battleground state of an old man sitting in a warehouse complaining that with Obama it's hard to know what's "coming down the pike." What is a "pike", and why is the term used almost exclusively by whiny old people? They're the same types who call the phone a "horn" and write letters to the editor complaining about mundane crap.


Don't you understand? With Obama in the White House, our traditional ability to tell the future has been obscured. Our National Oracle is in a coma. Only by removing the most attractive couple ever to grace the Executive Branch can we right this ship.
 
2012-09-23 05:16:11 PM

Malacon: MacEnvy: Malacon: jenlen:

It was explained, just read The Death Cookie


*clicks*
*reads*

No, it wasn't.

Did you read the whole thing? It's an extended explanation for why evangelicals consider Catholics to be idol-worshipers and Papists, not Christians. It's kooky, but it's a pretty standard viewpoint for those folks.

Maybe I just don't know anything about Evangicals, because that "comic" seems to suggest that Catholicism isn't legit because they using communion wafer and wine as representations of of the Body and Blood of Jesus, and the idea that it's just a wafer until the Priest blesses it.

My confusion here arises from the fact that just about everyone I know who is not Catholic, but is still some denomination of Christianity, has Holy Communion, where they engage is virtually identical rituals. I've been to my friends churches and was also struck by how so much was different, but the Eucharist was damn near spot on (though my Lutheran friends got to drink the wine).


Catholics believe that the wafer and wine is ACTUALLY the body and blood of Christ because the priest spoke some words over it.

Protestants mostly (I'm not sure about Methodists) believe it's symbolic of the body and blood of Christ.

Also at the church I grew up in we didn't do wine, we had grape juice. lol
 
2012-09-23 05:16:26 PM

Malacon: jenlen:

It was explained, just read The Death Cookie


*clicks*
*reads*

No, it wasn't.


I guess Chick ascribes to the belief that saying a hail mary is praying to Mary instead of God and that lighting candles is idolatry.

I read as far as something about 'evil spirits' and communion wafers. He must stand by the baptist version of the last supper - that you can't use wine in communion services because then people will get drunk and be unable to make a sober choice to follow the Lord.

Real communions are done the Southern Baptist way - using the same things Jesus Christ himself did. Welches grape juice and crushed Saltine crackers.
 
2012-09-23 05:19:42 PM
Karac:

Real communions are done the Southern Baptist way - using the same things Jesus Christ himself did. Welches grape juice and crushed Saltine crackers.

We used Nilla wafers and grape juice, not saltines. lol YAY being raised Southern Baptist.... um well maybe not so much YAY after all.
 
2012-09-23 05:19:57 PM

Karac:

Real communions are done the Southern Baptist way - using the same things Jesus Christ himself did. Welches grape juice and crushed Saltine crackers.




Here's a question---if the communion is supposed to be recreating the last supper, shouldn't the "bread" be matzohs? I thought the last supper took place during Passover.
 
2012-09-23 05:22:20 PM

Malacon: MacEnvy: Malacon: jenlen:

It was explained, just read The Death Cookie


*clicks*
*reads*

No, it wasn't.

Did you read the whole thing? It's an extended explanation for why evangelicals consider Catholics to be idol-worshipers and Papists, not Christians. It's kooky, but it's a pretty standard viewpoint for those folks.

Maybe I just don't know anything about Evangicals, because that "comic" seems to suggest that Catholicism isn't legit because they using communion wafer and wine as representations of of the Body and Blood of Jesus, and the idea that it's just a wafer until the Priest blesses it.

My confusion here arises from the fact that just about everyone I know who is not Catholic, but is still some denomination of Christianity, has Holy Communion, where they engage is virtually identical rituals. I've been to my friends churches and was also struck by how so much was different, but the Eucharist was damn near spot on (though my Lutheran friends got to drink the wine).


So, two things. First I think that the other denominations that participate in the Eucharist are mostly Episcopal and Lutheran. I've never heard of such a thing in evangelical churches.

Second, if you're looking for rational discussion in a Chick tract, you're barking up the wrong tree.
 
2012-09-23 05:26:06 PM

MacEnvy: So, two things. First I think that the other denominations that participate in the Eucharist are mostly Episcopal and Lutheran. I've never heard of such a thing in evangelical churches.


What? Every Baptist and Methodist church I've ever heard of practiced the Lord's Supper. Granted, none of them used that high-falutin' fancy-pants elitist latin name for it.
 
2012-09-23 05:26:26 PM

REO-Weedwagon: There's a horrible Romney ad running here in my battleground state of an old man sitting in a warehouse complaining that with Obama it's hard to know what's "coming down the pike." What is a "pike", and why is the term used almost exclusively by whiny old people? They're the same types who call the phone a "horn" and write letters to the editor complaining about mundane crap.


It's an old expression from one of those inbred states. Farmers were getting all the sheep, and the fishermen, well they were getting frustrated. And everyone knows you don't allow women on ships, and god forbid that sodomy stuff (smells like arse). Anyways a couple fishermen found out that p*ssy smells like fish, or vice-versa, and decided to try a few different types. Anyways, turns out it was pike, and ever since then if someone asked how long you would be in the head for, you would just say "cumming down the pike, almost done".
 
2012-09-23 05:27:27 PM

Rapmaster2000: [t2.gstatic.com image 254x198]
Toledoan Helen Kieswetter is upset with Doonesbury for a different reason. She was "mortally offended" by last Sunday's strip, which featured a parody of a science teacher forced to teach what those opposed to the theory of evolution call creationism.


Can anyone provide a link to that strip please?
 
2012-09-23 05:29:52 PM
www.toonpool.com
 
2012-09-23 05:31:27 PM

Bonzo_1116: Karac:

Real communions are done the Southern Baptist way - using the same things Jesus Christ himself did. Welches grape juice and crushed Saltine crackers.



Here's a question---if the communion is supposed to be recreating the last supper, shouldn't the "bread" be matzohs? I thought the last supper took place during Passover.


Eat your wafer and shut up.

This is religion there's no room for reason.
 
2012-09-23 05:31:45 PM

mjjt: Rapmaster2000: [t2.gstatic.com image 254x198]
Toledoan Helen Kieswetter is upset with Doonesbury for a different reason. She was "mortally offended" by last Sunday's strip, which featured a parody of a science teacher forced to teach what those opposed to the theory of evolution call creationism.

Can anyone provide a link to that strip please?


whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-23 05:34:14 PM

Bonzo_1116: Karac:

Real communions are done the Southern Baptist way - using the same things Jesus Christ himself did. Welches grape juice and crushed Saltine crackers.



Here's a question---if the communion is supposed to be recreating the last supper, shouldn't the "bread" be matzohs? I thought the last supper took place during Passover.


It was a Passover supper in Matthew, Mark and Luke, but in John it took place just before Passover. So if you believe that the Bible is infallible, logically the events of the Gospels must be taking place in two or more separate parallel universes.
 
x23
2012-09-23 05:34:15 PM

King Something: /yes, Mormons are Christians
//it may be a very bizarre and unorthodox interpretation of Christianity, what with the magic bloomers, the gold plates, heaven being a galaxy with a stupid number of planets, and the whole thing about Native Americans being a long-lost tribe of Israelites, but they still self-identify as Christians


fairly certain that is a recent thing. like something they only started doing in the past 20-30 years or something. based on how the church is structured they are able to make quick changes like that.
 
2012-09-23 05:34:42 PM

Kevin72: [www.thismodernworld.org image 600x502]


"This Modern World" is brilliant. Just brilliant.
 
2012-09-23 05:37:08 PM

mjjt: Rapmaster2000: [t2.gstatic.com image 254x198]
Toledoan Helen Kieswetter is upset with Doonesbury for a different reason. She was "mortally offended" by last Sunday's strip, which featured a parody of a science teacher forced to teach what those opposed to the theory of evolution call creationism.

Can anyone provide a link to that strip please?


"Mortally offended?" So she was so offended that now she's dying somehow?
 
2012-09-23 05:42:41 PM

malaktaus: mjjt: Rapmaster2000: [t2.gstatic.com image 254x198]
Toledoan Helen Kieswetter is upset with Doonesbury for a different reason. She was "mortally offended" by last Sunday's strip, which featured a parody of a science teacher forced to teach what those opposed to the theory of evolution call creationism.

Can anyone provide a link to that strip please?

"Mortally offended?" So she was so offended that now she's dying somehow?


We can only hope.
 
2012-09-23 05:45:19 PM

malaktaus: Bonzo_1116: Karac:

Real communions are done the Southern Baptist way - using the same things Jesus Christ himself did. Welches grape juice and crushed Saltine crackers.



Here's a question---if the communion is supposed to be recreating the last supper, shouldn't the "bread" be matzohs? I thought the last supper took place during Passover.

It was a Passover supper in Matthew, Mark and Luke, but in John it took place just before Passover. So if you believe that the Bible is infallible, logically the events of the Gospels must be taking place in two or more separate parallel universes.


Oh yeah, and on a semi-related note: Passover always occurs when the moon is full, solar eclipses only occur during a new moon, yet there was a total eclipse after the crucifixion. Which wasn't mentioned by any contemporary writers, despite the fact that the Bible describes it as being exceptionally long (three hours). Lolwut.
 
2012-09-23 05:48:01 PM
assets.amuniversal.com

My favorite Doonesbury from the 1988 Democratic Primary.
After this, even Gore's own campaign team started referring to him as "Prince"
 
2012-09-23 05:50:48 PM

x23: King Something: /yes, Mormons are Christians
//it may be a very bizarre and unorthodox interpretation of Christianity, what with the magic bloomers, the gold plates, heaven being a galaxy with a stupid number of planets, and the whole thing about Native Americans being a long-lost tribe of Israelites, but they still self-identify as Christians

fairly certain that is a recent thing. like something they only started doing in the past 20-30 years or something. based on how the church is structured they are able to make quick changes like that.


Ummmm, you think members of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" didn't consider themselves Christians?
 
2012-09-23 05:52:13 PM

Karac: Granted, none of them used that high-falutin' fancy-pants elitist latin name for it.


Greek, actually.
 
2012-09-23 05:52:37 PM

Bonzo_1116: Here's a question---if the communion is supposed to be recreating the last supper, shouldn't the "bread" be matzohs? I thought the last supper took place during Passover.


Communion wafer are unleavened, and I think some fringe sects do use matzoh.
 
2012-09-23 05:53:35 PM

Satanic_Hamster: I could self-identify as a walrus but that doesn't make it true.


Huh, you learn something new every day. I never had you pegged for otherkin.
 
2012-09-23 05:54:39 PM

PostApocalypticTribe: We used Nilla wafers and grape juice


O.o

That's just wrong. It's supposed to be a solemn holy sacrament, not snack time at a preschool.
 
2012-09-23 05:54:56 PM

Karac: mjjt: Rapmaster2000: [t2.gstatic.com image 254x198]
Toledoan Helen Kieswetter is upset with Doonesbury for a different reason. She was "mortally offended" by last Sunday's strip, which featured a parody of a science teacher forced to teach what those opposed to the theory of evolution call creationism.

Can anyone provide a link to that strip please?

[whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com image 600x833]


I found that one with Google but it was dated July 2011

Article referred to last Sunday's strip?
 
2012-09-23 05:56:43 PM

malaktaus: mjjt: Rapmaster2000: [t2.gstatic.com image 254x198]
Toledoan Helen Kieswetter is upset with Doonesbury for a different reason. She was "mortally offended" by last Sunday's strip, which featured a parody of a science teacher forced to teach what those opposed to the theory of evolution call creationism.

Can anyone provide a link to that strip please?

"Mortally offended?" So she was so offended that now she's dying somehow?


She like... literally died.
 
2012-09-23 06:05:37 PM

Malacon: MacEnvy: Malacon: jenlen:

It was explained, just read The Death Cookie


*clicks*
*reads*

No, it wasn't.

Did you read the whole thing? It's an extended explanation for why evangelicals consider Catholics to be idol-worshipers and Papists, not Christians. It's kooky, but it's a pretty standard viewpoint for those folks.

Maybe I just don't know anything about Evangicals, because that "comic" seems to suggest that Catholicism isn't legit because they using communion wafer and wine as representations of of the Body and Blood of Jesus, and the idea that it's just a wafer until the Priest blesses it.

My confusion here arises from the fact that just about everyone I know who is not Catholic, but is still some denomination of Christianity, has Holy Communion, where they engage is virtually identical rituals. I've been to my friends churches and was also struck by how so much was different, but the Eucharist was damn near spot on (though my Lutheran friends got to drink the wine).


Protestants believe that the bread and wine SYMBOLIZE the body and blood of Christ. Catholics and Orthodox Christians actually believe in transubstantiation. So, in a way, Orthodox Christians and Catholics practice ritual cannibalism and vampirism.

/recovering Catholic
//former Protestant fundie
 
2012-09-23 06:07:22 PM

PostApocalypticTribe: Catholics believe that the wafer and wine is ACTUALLY the body and blood of Christ because the priest spoke some words over it.

Protestants mostly (I'm not sure about Methodists) believe it's symbolic of the body and blood of Christ.


I was raised Catholic.

I did the 3 C's (Christening, Communion, Confirmation). I went to CCD from 1st grade until 9th. I went to Catholic High School.

It was always presented to me that we believe it is the ACTUAL body of Christ the same way we believe it took 168 hours to create Earth and everything in it. As in... not really. But kinda.

Was I raised a secret Protestant?
 
2012-09-23 06:08:05 PM

King Something: /yes, Mormons are Christians


Mormons are about as Christian as Muslims, in my view. Both their holy books are heavily copied from Christian documents, both claim a new prophet, and both are heresies but have the same basic idea as the Christians.
 
2012-09-23 06:15:30 PM
Theocrats force religion sideways into the school curriculum and then say people pointing out the fact are attacking Christianity?

At some point they are gonna hafta figure out that they can't play the bully and the victim simultaneously without looking seriously unhinged.

/I'm not telling them.
 
2012-09-23 06:15:43 PM

Malacon: MacEnvy: Malacon: jenlen:

It was explained, just read The Death Cookie


*clicks*
*reads*

No, it wasn't.

Did you read the whole thing? It's an extended explanation for why evangelicals consider Catholics to be idol-worshipers and Papists, not Christians. It's kooky, but it's a pretty standard viewpoint for those folks.

Maybe I just don't know anything about Evangicals, because that "comic" seems to suggest that Catholicism isn't legit because they using communion wafer and wine as representations of of the Body and Blood of Jesus, and the idea that it's just a wafer until the Priest blesses it.

My confusion here arises from the fact that just about everyone I know who is not Catholic, but is still some denomination of Christianity, has Holy Communion, where they engage is virtually identical rituals. I've been to my friends churches and was also struck by how so much was different, but the Eucharist was damn near spot on (though my Lutheran friends got to drink the wine).


Many of the evangelicals and southern denominations don't consider Catholics as being Christian, and even if they do, have a very negative view of them. Look at some footage from Kennedy's 1960 campaign. Notice the similarity to Romney's current predicament.
 
2012-09-23 06:15:48 PM

REO-Weedwagon: What is a "pike"


Short for "turnpike road", meaning toll road. A turnpike is a rotating barrier.
 
2012-09-23 06:18:32 PM

ilambiquated: King Something: /yes, Mormons are Christians

Mormons are about as Christian as Muslims, in my view. Both their holy books are heavily copied from Christian documents, both claim a new prophet, and both are heresies but have the same basic idea as the Christians.


Imagine how the Jews feel.
 
2012-09-23 06:20:58 PM

St_Francis_P: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Given that even the Catholic Church gave it's a-okay to Evolution by Natural Selection and the Big Bang Theory (almost typed "Big Band Theory", which I'd be okay with, too), any thinking Christian should be fairly convinced at this point that "creationism" is not synonymous with being Christian.

Don't be silly, Catholics aren't even Christians. Jack Chick explains: Are Roman Catholics Christians?


Well, for that matter, they aren't too fond of Mormons, either.
 
2012-09-23 06:22:28 PM

PostApocalypticTribe: Catholics believe that the wafer and wine is ACTUALLY the body and blood of Christ because the priest spoke some words over it.


But sadly, I learned at my first communion that I was allowed to get any of the blood because it contains alcohol. Had to wait til I was old enough. One of my great disappointments in life.

Apparently Jeebus is such a drunk that you can get drunk drinking his blood.
 
2012-09-23 06:24:51 PM

bulldg4life: Yes, making fun of creationism in science class is an attack on Christianity. More specifically, the radical nutjobs of the religion that feel it has a place in education.

Keep your stupid religious ideas in your church.

I don't try to get evolution taught in Sunday school.


Hell, I went to a Christian elementary and junior high school and they taught us about the evolution of australopithecines and hominids. Creationism is solely for the unintelligent and uncurious among us.
 
2012-09-23 06:25:08 PM

theorellior: Huh, you learn something new every day. I never had you pegged for otherkin.


Beholderkin?
 
2012-09-23 06:25:40 PM

ScreamingHangover: ilambiquated: King Something: /yes, Mormons are Christians

Mormons are about as Christian as Muslims, in my view. Both their holy books are heavily copied from Christian documents, both claim a new prophet, and both are heresies but have the same basic idea as the Christians.

Imagine how the Jews feel.


Heh, my superjewish sister-in-law would probably disembowel you in some highly kosher way if you dared to say "Judeo-Christian" in her presence.
 
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