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(Yahoo)   The bad news for for dairy cattle is that corn feed is scarcer and costlier than ever. The good news is they are being fed cookies, gummy worms, marshmallows, and fruit loops. The best news is it's a great time to be a bovine dentist   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 68
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2012-09-23 03:25:22 PM  
So... cows might start giving chocolate milk?
 
2012-09-23 04:30:17 PM  
Instead of feeding them corn they're feeding them corn syrup. Sweet.
 
2012-09-23 04:32:12 PM  
That's what you get for turning so much corn into fuel for cars.
 
2012-09-23 04:32:22 PM  
If only there were plants that grew in the ground naturally for the cows to eat.
 
2012-09-23 04:34:40 PM  
img.wikinut.com
Yummy!
 
2012-09-23 04:36:53 PM  
Sweet, sweet cows.
 
2012-09-23 04:38:50 PM  
Corn here in mid-west Indiana was looking like crap in July. It looks fine now. I don't know if the bad start will affect the yeilds but it looks like a normal year from the road.
 
2012-09-23 04:39:28 PM  
Good. Feed them all the fruit loops until Kellogg's goes back to the original formula.
 
2012-09-23 04:40:04 PM  
oops I mean Froot Loops®
 
2012-09-23 04:41:27 PM  

kidsizedcoffin: If only there were plants that grew in the ground naturally for the cows to eat.

THIS!
What a bunch of idiots. Letting your cows graze on grass makes for healthy cows and tastier healthier meat. Go back to nature you fools. Stop feeding corn to your cows, and you'll avoid tons of problems and costs. You won't have to waste money to pump them with medicine just to keep them alive.
 
2012-09-23 04:43:51 PM  

SuburbanCowboy: kidsizedcoffin: If only there were plants that grew in the ground naturally for the cows to eat.
THIS!
What a bunch of idiots. Letting your cows graze on grass makes for healthy cows and tastier healthier meat. Go back to nature you fools. Stop feeding corn to your cows, and you'll avoid tons of problems and costs. You won't have to waste money to pump them with medicine just to keep them alive.


Maybe they don't have grass to feed them... you know, because of the drought?
 
2012-09-23 04:45:51 PM  
So what if farmers are pumping their stupid obese cattle full of starchy crap barely fit for human consumption and then pumping them full of antibiotics until every microbe on Earth is immune to them all ... wait , that sounds familiar, where have I heard that business plan before?

Oh, well. it makes a change from their usual herbivorous diet of fish meal, fallen comrades, soya byproduct and roadkill.

I don't know whether Soylent Green would be worse than this system of industrialized agriculture--it would cut out the middle man (so to speak), and there would be no danger of the movie Black Sheep becoming a mockumentary. Also, it would reverse the relationship between the size limits of the population and the food supply.
 
2012-09-23 04:46:27 PM  
Four out of five bovine dentists recommend sugarless cud for their patients who chew cud.
 
2012-09-23 04:49:20 PM  

sallys: [img.wikinut.com image 400x399]
Yummy!


That is the smuggest cow I have ever seen. I want to punch the cow through my monitor.
 
2012-09-23 04:50:19 PM  
Does eating animal crackers make Elsie a cannibal?
 
2012-09-23 04:53:01 PM  
There's a potato chip factory near me that also raises cattle out back. Whatever chips fall on the floor in the factory or chips that get overcooked/undercooked, or ones that don't get the right amount of seasoning, will get fed to the cattle. It's kind of sad to think of cows eating a mixture of cheese puffs, tortilla chips, pretzels, BBQ chips, and about 20 other flavors of chips and snack food.
 
2012-09-23 04:55:06 PM  

kidsizedcoffin: If only there were plants that grew in the ground naturally for the cows to eat.


Do you know how much room it takes to grow enough grass to satisfy the 95 million cattle in the U.S.? I don't
 
2012-09-23 04:57:02 PM  

SuburbanCowboy: kidsizedcoffin: If only there were plants that grew in the ground naturally for the cows to eat.
THIS!
What a bunch of idiots. Letting your cows graze on grass makes for healthy cows and tastier healthier meat. Go back to nature you fools. Stop feeding corn to your cows, and you'll avoid tons of problems and costs. You won't have to waste money to pump them with medicine just to keep them alive.


Good grief. Where do you live? Seriously. There was a serious drought this year. Some Cattle are just dropping dead in the pastures from eating drought stressed grass....if there is anything to even graze in the first place.
 
2012-09-23 04:57:25 PM  

phansen: kidsizedcoffin: If only there were plants that grew in the ground naturally for the cows to eat.

Do you know how much room it takes to grow enough grass to satisfy the 95 million cattle in the U.S.? I don't


We're constantly finding new places to raise cattle under those pesky rainforests.
 
2012-09-23 04:59:36 PM  

phansen: kidsizedcoffin: If only there were plants that grew in the ground naturally for the cows to eat.

Do you know how much room it takes to grow enough grass to satisfy the 95 million cattle in the U.S.? I don't


Corn is a grass. Big juicy grass.
 
2012-09-23 05:01:32 PM  

phansen: kidsizedcoffin: If only there were plants that grew in the ground naturally for the cows to eat.

Do you know how much room it takes to grow enough grass to satisfy the 95 million cattle in the U.S.? I don't


Obviously, this is part of the problem. Cheap corn has made it really easy to feed a lot of cattle and satiate your dog's demand for steak.
 
2012-09-23 05:02:39 PM  

phansen: kidsizedcoffin: If only there were plants that grew in the ground naturally for the cows to eat.

Do you know how much room it takes to grow enough grass to satisfy the 95 million cattle in the U.S.? I don't


A quick google says 1-10 acres/month. depending on the quality of the land/feed.

95m * 1acre/month * 12 months = 1.14 billion acres

So somewhere on the order of 1-11 billion acres. This doesn't take into account that you can grow cows bigger in less time with corn.
 
2012-09-23 05:09:38 PM  

RogermcAllen: phansen: kidsizedcoffin: If only there were plants that grew in the ground naturally for the cows to eat.

Do you know how much room it takes to grow enough grass to satisfy the 95 million cattle in the U.S.? I don't

A quick google says 1-10 acres/month. depending on the quality of the land/feed.

95m * 1acre/month * 12 months = 1.14 billion acres

So somewhere on the order of 1-11 billion acres. This doesn't take into account that you can grow cows bigger in less time with corn.


You guys got me curious... so
A PDF from USDA has a rule of thumb at about 1.5 - 2 acres per cow per year. So under 200m acres...
 
2012-09-23 05:09:45 PM  
i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-09-23 05:10:13 PM  

Bonzo_1116: phansen: kidsizedcoffin: If only there were plants that grew in the ground naturally for the cows to eat.

Do you know how much room it takes to grow enough grass to satisfy the 95 million cattle in the U.S.? I don't

Corn is a grass. Big juicy grass.


Yes, I know but I assumed he meant he wanted the cows to free range graze. And I just don't think that's physically possible unless our cattle population was significantly smaller. Plus the fact that the drought killed all grasses not just corn.
 
2012-09-23 05:11:33 PM  
Just what we need diabetic cows.
 
2012-09-23 05:12:53 PM  
Calm down fools. There is enough corn to around for everyone, it just costs more. Because the value of the dollar has gone down.
 
2012-09-23 05:17:54 PM  
Moo, I say. Moo.
 
2012-09-23 05:18:28 PM  

sno man: RogermcAllen: phansen: kidsizedcoffin: If only there were plants that grew in the ground naturally for the cows to eat.

Do you know how much room it takes to grow enough grass to satisfy the 95 million cattle in the U.S.? I don't

A quick google says 1-10 acres/month. depending on the quality of the land/feed.

95m * 1acre/month * 12 months = 1.14 billion acres

So somewhere on the order of 1-11 billion acres. This doesn't take into account that you can grow cows bigger in less time with corn.

You guys got me curious... so
A PDF from USDA has a rule of thumb at about 1.5 - 2 acres per cow per year. So under 200m acres...


Texas is about 172m Acres. Pretty dry grazing land though...
 
2012-09-23 05:22:57 PM  

phansen:

Yes, I know but I assumed he meant he wanted the cows to free range graze. And I just don't think that's physically possible unless our cattle population was significantly smaller. Plus the fact that the drought killed all grasses not just corn.


Not to mention the fact that free range grazing makes almost zero sense for dairy cattle.
 
2012-09-23 05:25:25 PM  
Its all the Count Chocula left over from the 90's????
 
2012-09-23 05:29:55 PM  
I like to wonder about the peripheral industries this is going to affect. For instance, a lot of bovine-based products are used in cell-based research (both mammalian and bacterial). Some bio companies have already tried to lock-in prices for these products, but with a potential looming bovine shortage, the cost of doing biological research may increase, and biomedical/pharmaceutical companies will undoubtedly pass the costs on to the consumer. It's more than just your steak at risk.
 
2012-09-23 05:46:22 PM  
Sooo... this is the first time cookies and Fruit Loops have been used to MAKE milk? Needs the [IRONIC] tag.
farm5.staticflickr.com
 
2012-09-23 05:56:50 PM  

kidsizedcoffin: phansen: kidsizedcoffin: If only there were plants that grew in the ground naturally for the cows to eat.

Do you know how much room it takes to grow enough grass to satisfy the 95 million cattle in the U.S.? I don't

We're constantly finding new places to raise cattle under those pesky rainforests.


And with less rainforests we have more CO2 in the atmosphere causing more droughts destroying more corn crops. It's the circle of life.
 
2012-09-23 05:57:09 PM  
OK, did anyone else click on the "Facts about Corn: Did you know...."?

I must say it was very interesting. Check it out.

\wtf?
 
2012-09-23 06:22:06 PM  

fusillade762: kidsizedcoffin: phansen: kidsizedcoffin: If only there were plants that grew in the ground naturally for the cows to eat.

Do you know how much room it takes to grow enough grass to satisfy the 95 million cattle in the U.S.? I don't

We're constantly finding new places to raise cattle under those pesky rainforests.

And with less rainforests we have more CO2 in the atmosphere causing more droughts destroying more corn crops. It's the circle of life.


I'm not sure you got that last word right... :^(
 
2012-09-23 06:30:44 PM  

Bonzo_1116: phansen:

Yes, I know but I assumed he meant he wanted the cows to free range graze. And I just don't think that's physically possible unless our cattle population was significantly smaller. Plus the fact that the drought killed all grasses not just corn.

Not to mention the fact that free range grazing makes almost zero sense for dairy cattle.


Aren't we not supposed to drink cow milk anyways?
 
2012-09-23 06:31:15 PM  

Pick: Calm down fools. There is enough corn to around for everyone, it just costs more. Because the value of the dollar has gone down.

of GREEDY SPECULATORS.
 
2012-09-23 06:36:43 PM  

belhade: Bonzo_1116: phansen:

Yes, I know but I assumed he meant he wanted the cows to free range graze. And I just don't think that's physically possible unless our cattle population was significantly smaller. Plus the fact that the drought killed all grasses not just corn.

Not to mention the fact that free range grazing makes almost zero sense for dairy cattle.

Aren't we not supposed to drink cow milk anyways?


I'm sorry if you didn't get the genetic upgrade to adlut lactose tolerance. It's awesome, and as a bonus: CHEESE. Lots and lots of CHEESE.
 
2012-09-23 06:49:16 PM  

Bonzo_1116: belhade: Bonzo_1116: phansen:

Yes, I know but I assumed he meant he wanted the cows to free range graze. And I just don't think that's physically possible unless our cattle population was significantly smaller. Plus the fact that the drought killed all grasses not just corn.

Not to mention the fact that free range grazing makes almost zero sense for dairy cattle.

Aren't we not supposed to drink cow milk anyways?

I'm sorry if you didn't get the genetic upgrade to adlut lactose tolerance. It's awesome, and as a bonus: CHEESE. Lots and lots of CHEESE.


You missed the obvious. Hire human mothers for their milk. A whole new industry is waiting for the sqeamishness barrier to be broken.
 
2012-09-23 06:50:32 PM  

Optimal_Illusion:

You missed the obvious. Hire human mothers for their milk. A whole new industry is waiting for the sqeamishness barrier to be broken.




I think you can already get that on Craigslist. Locally sourced, too.
 
2012-09-23 07:06:12 PM  
Sick
 
2012-09-23 07:08:50 PM  
Actually, that's the best news, considering that cows stomachs cannot process corn.
 
2012-09-23 07:26:02 PM  
You know how milk can change flavors depending on what the cows are eating? How sometimes you can just tell they've been eating turnips or something? (It's not pleasant when that happens.) I wonder how artificially-flavored confections will alter the taste of the milk...

/Could be good, could be awful.
//I'm drinking soy milk lately, anyway.
 
2012-09-23 07:31:17 PM  
My uncle, who owned a bakery and a hobby farm, used to feed his cows with a kind of slop made from cookies.

He used to bellow "COOOOOKIES!" out over the field and the cows would come GALLOPING in.

Was quite funny.
 
2012-09-23 07:32:03 PM  

Bonzo_1116:

Not to mention the fact that free range grazing makes almost zero sense for dairy cattle. 

 

Seriously? Grass-fed milk cows produce better milk hands down. Better nutrition in the milk (healthy fats and omega fatty acids), better quality milk, better flavor, healthier heifer, healthier everyone all around.

In a grass pasture she's not standing in a feed lot up to her knees in wet, mucky feces that is rampant with antibiotic-resistant bacteria. She's not injected with the same antibiotics to keep the constant infections she's got going under control. Her gut is healthy because she isn't eating corn meal, which cows cannot digest and it creates ulcers and other "souring" of the gut and more gut and intestinal infections which she's then given antibiotics for. Her teats aren't covered in the feces and bacteria from the lot, which can contaminate milk when the milking contraption is put on her.

Driving through Greeley, Colorado put me off CAFO beef forever. I buy local beef and milk products now. I spend a bit more, but it's worth it to support local folks who care about their herd and the quality of the food they're selling.
 
2012-09-23 08:10:00 PM  

Alphakronik: Actually, that's the best news, considering that cows stomachs cannot process corn.


So all those feedlot cattle are actually starving to death? Doesn't seem like a very smart way to run a business.
 
2012-09-23 08:34:05 PM  

Canton: You know how milk can change flavors depending on what the cows are eating? How sometimes you can just tell they've been eating turnips or something? (It's not pleasant when that happens.) I wonder how artificially-flavored confections will alter the taste of the milk...

/Could be good, could be awful.
//I'm drinking soy milk lately, anyway.


Did you read the shrinkage threads in the last few days?
You know soy milk has estrogen emulators?

/not helping your own cause you are.
 
2012-09-23 08:37:50 PM  

Poowaddins: Bonzo_1116:

Not to mention the fact that free range grazing makes almost zero sense for dairy cattle.   

Seriously? Grass-fed milk cows produce better milk hands down. Better nutrition in the milk (healthy fats and omega fatty acids), better quality milk, better flavor, healthier heifer, healthier everyone all around.

In a grass pasture she's not standing in a feed lot up to her knees in wet, mucky feces that is rampant with antibiotic-resistant bacteria. She's not injected with the same antibiotics to keep the constant infections she's got going under control. Her gut is healthy because she isn't eating corn meal, which cows cannot digest and it creates ulcers and other "souring" of the gut and more gut and intestinal infections which she's then given antibiotics for. Her teats aren't covered in the feces and bacteria from the lot, which can contaminate milk when the milking contraption is put on her.

Driving through Greeley, Colorado put me off CAFO beef forever. I buy local beef and milk products now. I spend a bit more, but it's worth it to support local folks who care about their herd and the quality of the food they're selling.


In a perfect world, yeah you'd grass feed the dairy cattle. But can you grass feed enough dairy cattle, get the milk out of the cows before their teats pop and get the milk to the dairy/cheesemaking factory before it spoils.....to the tune of 3.9 million metric tons a year?
Linkity-poppo to pdf from some gov't cheese agency

I'd love to know how much it would be a pound. If it's on the order $5/lb (including grocery store profits) we should do it.

/pdf says we make more mozarella than anything else.
//1.3million metric tons of mozarella
///holy shiat that's a lot of pizza
 
2012-09-23 08:41:03 PM  

sno man: Canton: You know how milk can change flavors depending on what the cows are eating? How sometimes you can just tell they've been eating turnips or something? (It's not pleasant when that happens.) I wonder how artificially-flavored confections will alter the taste of the milk...

/Could be good, could be awful.
//I'm drinking soy milk lately, anyway.

Did you read the shrinkage threads in the last few days?
You know soy milk has estrogen emulators?

/not helping your own cause you are.


Uhhh, what cause? I eat dairy, too, primarily in cheese form. I'm just experimenting with my personal dietary habits a little. Varying my protein intake, you know. Also, I'm a woman, so I'm not sure what sort of shrinkage you mean?
 
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