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(The New York Times)   Idiot columnist who has apparently never heard of the "off button" thinks that the invention of the iPhone and Facebook now means that eight hours of uninterrupted sleep is now physically unpossible   (nytimes.com) divider line 70
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2012-09-23 10:03:24 AM
/submitted after 8 hours of beautiful, beautiful sleep
 
2012-09-23 10:24:15 AM
I turn my phone on silent when i go to bed. I'm not a doctor and nothing is so important I can't wait to hear about it later. Seems like that should be common sense.
 
2012-09-23 10:38:07 AM
Yesterday I worked a first shift after having worked third shift the night before. Three hours sleep in between. Not a fun day.

/killed a fifth of vodka on the bus after work
//made a depressed friend laugh with my drunkeness
 
2012-09-23 10:49:22 AM
I will say that my attention span for most television has dropped precipitously. I'll find myself half watching half surfing. However, I never feel a need to check anything during my hours of sleep. I have no issue about unplugging for at least 8 hours a day.
 
2012-09-23 11:20:04 AM

Nefarious: I will say that my attention span for most television has dropped precipitously. I'll find myself half watching half surfing. However, I never feel a need to check anything during my hours of sleep. I have no issue about unplugging for at least 8 hours a day.


I have the same problem. I pretty much *cannot* make it straight through a movie anymore. I don't know if it's an age thing, a movie quality thing, a cell phone thing, or what.
 
2012-09-23 11:39:27 AM

whistleridge: Nefarious: I will say that my attention span for most television has dropped precipitously. I'll find myself half watching half surfing. However, I never feel a need to check anything during my hours of sleep. I have no issue about unplugging for at least 8 hours a day.

I have the same problem. I pretty much *cannot* make it straight through a movie anymore. I don't know if it's an age thing, a movie quality thing, a cell phone thing, or what.


Yeah, I "watch TV" with a laptop on my lap going concurrently, generally. It's rare that I put it away and just watch.
 
2012-09-23 11:51:26 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: whistleridge: Nefarious: I will say that my attention span for most television has dropped precipitously. I'll find myself half watching half surfing. However, I never feel a need to check anything during my hours of sleep. I have no issue about unplugging for at least 8 hours a day.

I have the same problem. I pretty much *cannot* make it straight through a movie anymore. I don't know if it's an age thing, a movie quality thing, a cell phone thing, or what.

Yeah, I "watch TV" with a laptop on my lap going concurrently, generally. It's rare that I put it away and just watch.


Yep, same here...
 
2012-09-23 01:49:27 PM
Looks like that columnist doesn't know that iOS 6 comes with a "Do Not Disturb" feature which will silence all notifications. Or he could just turn the phone off.
 
2012-09-23 02:05:25 PM
When my girlfriend had an iphone it had to be charged every day. We don't have any plugs near the bed so she'd leave it in the living room and use an old phone as her alarm clock.
 
2012-09-23 02:08:27 PM
On the other hand, people seem to think that because they themselves stay chained to their communication device, that everyone else they know has to do the same. "OMG WHY DIDN'T YOU ANSWER MY TEXTS!?" I was working an 8 hour shift and didn't take my phone with me. Farking chill.
 
2012-09-23 02:36:20 PM
I got 12 hours of sleep friday night. I did have to get up and pee, but I was right back out as soon as I got back to bed. It was awesome.
 
2012-09-23 02:39:26 PM
Wait until he finds out TV and the internet operate 24 hours a day. Will this man ever rest?
 
2012-09-23 02:42:34 PM
But if he turned them off, how would he know when the poop is coming out?

i.cdn.turner.com
 
2012-09-23 02:43:46 PM

Confabulat: I turn my phone on silent when i go to bed. I'm not a doctor and nothing is so important I can't wait to hear about it later. Seems like that should be common sense.


Main reason i don't have a cellphone at all. Feels like i'm on a leash.
 
2012-09-23 03:18:03 PM
Nice trolling headline, Subby. You managed to hook almost everyone.
 
2012-09-23 03:31:38 PM

offmymeds: But if he turned them off, how would he know when the poop is coming out?

[i.cdn.turner.com image 617x468]


art.penny-arcade.com
 
2012-09-23 04:02:02 PM
tng.trekcore.com

Sleep
 
2012-09-23 04:18:22 PM
best feature of iOS6 is the 'do not disturb' option.

followed by 'no advertisments'

then by 'use a song' for the alarm clock

then 'if you ain't on my contacts list you can bother me' option
 
2012-09-23 04:21:44 PM
Since Guild Wars 2 came out, I've noticed a change in my sleep cycle
 
2012-09-23 04:25:22 PM

MarkMartinFan: then by 'use a song' for the alarm clock


Check out the free "Alarmed" app... It lets you use a playlist for the alarm clock, and can also slowly ramp up the volume over minutes. I use it when I travel.
 
2012-09-23 04:25:39 PM

MarkMartinFan: best feature of iOS6 is the 'do not disturb' option.

followed by 'no advertisments'

then by 'use a song' for the alarm clock

then 'if you ain't on my contacts list you can bother me' option


+1 funny
 
2012-09-23 04:30:06 PM
My parents live on a gorgeous, forested island. When I go to visit them, I turn off my cellphone and check my email once a day to make sure nothing terrible has happened. It's NOT THAT HARD to send yourself hurdling back to the mysterious, nebulous time of 1994.
 
2012-09-23 04:30:31 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: whistleridge: Nefarious: I will say that my attention span for most television has dropped precipitously. I'll find myself half watching half surfing. However, I never feel a need to check anything during my hours of sleep. I have no issue about unplugging for at least 8 hours a day.

I have the same problem. I pretty much *cannot* make it straight through a movie anymore. I don't know if it's an age thing, a movie quality thing, a cell phone thing, or what.

Yeah, I "watch TV" with a laptop on my lap going concurrently, generally. It's rare that I put it away and just watch.


I'm doing that right now, watching the Steelers game and posting on Fark before heading into work.

/go Stillers!
 
2012-09-23 04:34:15 PM
Author of the article is an idiot. Number one, sleep needs vary from person to person. One person can get by on four hours of sleep while the next may need ten. Number two, there are tons of other things that interfere with sleep patterns such as medications, light from outside, stress and having an old mattress, oh, and either watching tv or working in the bedroom. We build up a sleep debt when we don't get enough sleep. Our bodies let us know what's right for us. Number three, research about sleep is changing constantly. So what we know today could be something completely different tomorrow.
 
2012-09-23 04:50:58 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: whistleridge: Nefarious: I will say that my attention span for most television has dropped precipitously. I'll find myself half watching half surfing. However, I never feel a need to check anything during my hours of sleep. I have no issue about unplugging for at least 8 hours a day.

I have the same problem. I pretty much *cannot* make it straight through a movie anymore. I don't know if it's an age thing, a movie quality thing, a cell phone thing, or what.

Yeah, I "watch TV" with a laptop on my lap going concurrently, generally. It's rare that I put it away and just watch.


More than a decade of doing that here. Just got netflix, so things have already changed.
/except the amount of beer.
 
2012-09-23 05:04:04 PM

MarkMartinFan: best feature of iOS6 is the 'do not disturb' option.

followed by 'no advertisments'

then by 'use a song' for the alarm clock

then 'if you ain't on my contacts list you can bother me' option


Gee... My G1 does all that...
 
2012-09-23 05:04:15 PM

PsyLord: Since Guild Wars 2 came out, I've noticed a change in my sleep cycle


fark ncsoft.
 
2012-09-23 05:13:51 PM
"Invention of the iPhone"? That's like saying "invention of the Honda Accord"...
 
2012-09-23 05:24:22 PM

PsyLord: Since Guild Wars 2 came out, I've noticed a change in my sleep cycle

 
2012-09-23 05:27:03 PM
Apropos of sleep, that sinister adventure of all our nights, we may say that men go to bed daily with an audacity that would be incomprehensible if we did not know that it is the result of ignorance of the danger. -Baudelaire.
 
2012-09-23 05:29:01 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: "Invention of the iPhone"? That's like saying "invention of the Honda Accord"...


I've seen this phrasing used more than once by iTards. I think it speaks volumes.

/didn't really want to get into an Apple/Android flameware
//but here it is
 
2012-09-23 05:29:17 PM
It puzzles me how some people are practically glued to their mobile devices. It puzzles me even more how they can't fathom me not caring enough to be the same.
 
2012-09-23 05:41:55 PM

fluffy2097: MarkMartinFan: best feature of iOS6 is the 'do not disturb' option.

followed by 'no advertisments'

then by 'use a song' for the alarm clock

then 'if you ain't on my contacts list you can bother me' option

Gee... My G1 does all that...


I'm surprised Apple don't make you pay to use a song as the alarm sound the way they make you pay to use a song you already own as a ringtone.
 
kab
2012-09-23 05:42:04 PM

Gergesa: It puzzles me how some people are practically glued to their mobile devices. It puzzles me even more how they can't fathom me not caring enough to be the same.


I've been to fairly large employee dinners where everyone sits down, and the majority proceeds to hold their smart phones at lap level, and text each other.. and this wasn't just a one off occurrence. Really one of the most bizarre scenario's I've ever witnessed.

FTA: Sound familiar?

No, not really, because I have enough common sense to know how to shut such annoyances off when I'm sleeping.
 
2012-09-23 05:42:30 PM

Empty Matchbook: It's NOT THAT HARD to send yourself hurdling back to the mysterious, nebulous time of 1994.


Try telling that to my co-workers. I have no idea who they're texting at 6am during the week, but I can't imagine whoever is on the other end appreciates it.
 
2012-09-23 05:48:56 PM
What? No love for the airplane mode? I put my phone on airplane mode when I meditate and when I sleep so I don't get disturbed. Who needs to turn the phone off then have to wait for it to start up?
 
2012-09-23 05:49:23 PM

Empty Matchbook: My parents live on a gorgeous, forested island. When I go to visit them, I turn off my cellphone and check my email once a day to make sure nothing terrible has happened. It's NOT THAT HARD to send yourself hurdling back to the mysterious, nebulous time of 1994.


i2.listal.com

It was the clowns that would prevent you from sleeping.
 
2012-09-23 05:53:10 PM

Flint Ironstag: fluffy2097: MarkMartinFan: best feature of iOS6 is the 'do not disturb' option.

followed by 'no advertisments'

then by 'use a song' for the alarm clock

then 'if you ain't on my contacts list you can bother me' option

Gee... My G1 does all that...

I'm surprised Apple RIAA don't make you pay to use a song as the alarm sound the way they make you pay to use a song you already own as a ringtone.


They will come after you from singing in the shower
/soon...
 
2012-09-23 06:04:21 PM

Mantour: Flint Ironstag: fluffy2097: MarkMartinFan: best feature of iOS6 is the 'do not disturb' option.

followed by 'no advertisments'

then by 'use a song' for the alarm clock

then 'if you ain't on my contacts list you can bother me' option

Gee... My G1 does all that...

I'm surprised Apple RIAA don't make you pay to use a song as the alarm sound the way they make you pay to use a song you already own as a ringtone.

They will come after you from singing in the shower
/soon...


They'd have to identify the song first. With my singing? Good luck with that....
 
2012-09-23 06:12:12 PM
I got into it with my old boss about this.

"I tried to call you early this morning but you didnt pick up, i needed you to come in early"

"Yeah, sorry, i just got your message an hour ago, i dont sleep with my phone in my room."

"Well wtf do you use for an alarm?"

"Uh... an alarm clock"

"Well im gonna need you to start keeping your phone on your nightstand."

"Are you going to start paying me to be on call?"

/retail management...
 
2012-09-23 06:32:12 PM
Problem solved:

i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-23 06:42:01 PM

Cyno01: I got into it with my old boss about this.

"I tried to call you early this morning but you didnt pick up, i needed you to come in early"

"Yeah, sorry, i just got your message an hour ago, i dont sleep with my phone in my room."

"Well wtf do you use for an alarm?"

"Uh... an alarm clock"

"Well im gonna need you to start keeping your phone on your nightstand."

"Are you going to start paying me to be on call?"

/retail management...


This.

If you want me to be on call, you can damn well pay me. That includes weekend email. Just because you haven't nailed your wife in years and have nothing better to do doesn't mean the rest of us don't.

Working 60 hours a week because there's a big problem with the Jones account that makes up 40% of our income = ok; executing me to drop everything and respond to routine calls/email on the weekend because you gave me a Blackberry = you're dreaming.
 
2012-09-23 06:47:07 PM

whistleridge: Cyno01: I got into it with my old boss about this.

"I tried to call you early this morning but you didnt pick up, i needed you to come in early"

"Yeah, sorry, i just got your message an hour ago, i dont sleep with my phone in my room."

"Well wtf do you use for an alarm?"

"Uh... an alarm clock"

"Well im gonna need you to start keeping your phone on your nightstand."

"Are you going to start paying me to be on call?"

/retail management...

This.

If you want me to be on call, you can damn well pay me. That includes weekend email. Just because you haven't nailed your wife in years and have nothing better to do doesn't mean the rest of us don't.

Working 60 hours a week because there's a big problem with the Jones account that makes up 40% of our income = ok; executing me to drop everything and respond to routine calls/email on the weekend because you gave me a Blackberry = you're dreaming.


Plus, them calling you with no notice telling you they need you to come in early? Try calling them an hour before you're due at work and asking for the day off and see how they like it....

My boss often asks me to work extra, come in on days off etc and four out of five times I say okay. The other time I say I can't, just so they don't take me for granted.
 
2012-09-23 07:06:42 PM
CyanogenMod quiet hours. Set it and forget it. There since CM7? Been a while, in any case.
 
2012-09-23 07:15:22 PM
My phone is on vibrate, and almost all of my electronics stay in the computer room. My bedroom is electronics free (except for the kindle and the alarm clock).

// speaking of which, I'm looking for a new alarm clock, something with rosewood or black, clean lines, and doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Do you know how farking hard it is to find a decent alarm clock these days?

Everything I find either has a huge amount of space devoted to an iPod dock (I don't have an iphone or ipod, so it's a useless feature to me, and most of those things get bad ratings anyway, I think by including the dock, they cut corners elsewhere) OR is geared toward corporate gift desk junk (do a GIS for rosewood clock radio and see the sort of shiat that comes up).

There was a really nice alarm clock that I saw online once, but it was just a render and it doesn't look like it ever made it to production :(

Sadly, just a render :(
walyou.com

Although it has an ipod dock, this is along the lines of what I'm looking for. BUT, it's over $500. Too much for an alarm clock radio.
coolmaterial.com

This is not a clock radio (it's an amplifier), but it's what I would want a clock radio to look like (with a black face, and obviously, a clock).
P.S. The amplifier is $1800 on amazon.
ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2012-09-23 07:16:41 PM
Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah, I "watch TV" with a laptop on my lap going concurrently, generally. It's rare that I put it away and just watch.

There are very few movies these days that demand my full attention.

// but when breaking bad is on ... I'm watching breaking bad and doing nothing else.
 
2012-09-23 07:24:13 PM

ChubbyTiger: CyanogenMod quiet hours. Set it and forget it. There since CM7? Been a while, in any case.


Yep. It's one of their best features, and it's why I switched to CM from the stock ROM.
 
2012-09-23 07:52:00 PM
If only there was a feature called "put the farking phone in another farking room when you go to bed"
 
2012-09-23 08:57:20 PM
Did any of you people read the article?
 
2012-09-23 09:18:06 PM

Basily Gourt: Did any of you people read the article?


You must be new here...
 
2012-09-23 10:22:06 PM
Actually, 8 straight hours of sleep is a relatively recent thing, the more "natural" sleep pattern is 4 hours, waking up for a bit, then 4 hours again.

So Facebook is apparently returning us to the biological "norm" of pre-electric humanity, if that's the kind of thing you go for.

//I don't care, loads of people have tried loads of sleep patterns and apparently none of them kill you (except complete insomnia) and few even impair you significantly in any practical way unless you take arbitrary psych tests for a living.

Tax Boy: If only there was a feature called "put the farking phone in another farking room when you go to bed"


I know that in my case, my alarm is on the phone, so nah.

However, it's not exactly rocket science to train yourself to respond differently to different sounds. The message beep doesn't wake me up, the telephone ring brings me to enough wakefulness to read the caller ID and not much more, and the alarm sound results in two snoozes and then full wakefulness.
 
2012-09-23 10:28:38 PM
At least I am not alone.
 
2012-09-23 10:37:30 PM
Ooooh. Michael J Fox in 8 minutes! I'm shaking with anticipation
 
2012-09-23 10:38:05 PM

Tax Boy: Ooooh. Michael J Fox in 8 minutes! I'm shaking with anticipation


oops wrong thread
 
2012-09-23 10:50:17 PM

Tax Boy: Tax Boy: Ooooh. Michael J Fox in 8 minutes! I'm shaking with anticipation

oops wrong thread


I'm scared to ask what thread you meant to post in....
 
2012-09-23 11:03:30 PM

Tax Boy: oops wrong thread


Actually you had the most sensible comment of anyone here.
 
2012-09-23 11:35:21 PM

Scruffinator: Empty Matchbook: It's NOT THAT HARD to send yourself hurdling back to the mysterious, nebulous time of 1994.

Try telling that to my co-workers. I have no idea who they're texting at 6am during the week, but I can't imagine whoever is on the other end appreciates it.


Ah-heh, yeah I've got a couple of friends who text at odd hours. Haaaaaaaate it.

Mantour: Empty Matchbook: My parents live on a gorgeous, forested island. When I go to visit them, I turn off my cellphone and check my email once a day to make sure nothing terrible has happened. It's NOT THAT HARD to send yourself hurdling back to the mysterious, nebulous time of 1994.

[i2.listal.com image 480x360]

It was the clowns that would prevent you from sleeping.


FLASHBACKS! Can't sleep...clown'll eat me...
 
2012-09-23 11:54:41 PM
Eight hours of uninterrupted sleep an impossibility? Don't need my iPhone for this. My brain has started mimicking fire and monoxide alarm noises, so every few days I will wake in a panic either from sleep paralysis or phantom alarms. Hard to get back to sleep after. Now to try for six hours!
 
2012-09-24 12:56:31 AM
Turning the phone off is for amateurs and old people.
I just use Tasker to silence all my notifications and ringers unless they are from certain people on my contacts list that I have to be available to 24/7. I don't even need to turn that off and on. Tasker knows that if it's a certain time of day, my phone is plugged in, and the GPS tells it that I'm at home, it triggers these setting automatically until the next scheduled event (like my alarm) returns my notifications/ringer to the normal voume.
 
2012-09-24 01:35:20 AM
Love the knee-jerk responses we get from the iHaters just because the iPhone was mentioned in the article, or the headline, or the thread. Wipe the froth off your lips, back away from the computer, and grow the f**k up.
 
2012-09-24 03:05:20 AM
Oh look, another iPhone thread.


Suck it droidtards.
 
2012-09-24 03:09:46 AM
Someone forgot to finish reading the article
gawd
 
2012-09-24 03:35:03 AM

bingethinker: Love the knee-jerk responses we get from the iHaters just because the iPhone was mentioned in the article, or the headline, or the thread. Wipe the froth off your lips, back away from the computer, and grow the f**k up.


fark off.
 
2012-09-24 08:21:57 AM
Sold my iphone 3years ago and switched to android.. MUCH better.. and i don't use facebook.. its silly.. so no issues sleeping.. plus jacking it before bed is like natures sleeping pill:)
 
2012-09-24 08:53:38 AM

Confabulat: I turn my phone on silent when i go to bed. I'm not a doctor and nothing is so important I can't wait to hear about it later. Seems like that should be common sense.


I don't even do that. Just sleep right through any texts or rings.
 
2012-09-24 09:23:30 AM

APE992: bingethinker: Love the knee-jerk responses we get from the iHaters just because the iPhone was mentioned in the article, or the headline, or the thread. Wipe the froth off your lips, back away from the computer, and grow the f**k up.

fark off.


Troll account, dude.
 
2012-09-24 09:59:01 AM
I used to sleep with my phone on non-silent right next to my bed, til one day I woke to find a text message on it informing me that my then-girlfriend had dumped me.

Turns out she'd phoned me in the middle of the night, 2AM or so, and my sleep addled brain apparently gets viciously rude when woken up in such a way.

To this day I have no idea of what I said to her, complete blank spot, but whatever it was it was enough to get her to kick my ass to the kerb.

So yeah, now I make sure that my phone stays on silent every night - stays close to the bed though as it's my alarm clock.
 
2012-09-24 10:25:49 AM

Cyno01: I got into it with my old boss about this.

"I tried to call you early this morning but you didnt pick up, i needed you to come in early"

"Yeah, sorry, i just got your message an hour ago, i dont sleep with my phone in my room."

"Well wtf do you use for an alarm?"

"Uh... an alarm clock"

"Well im gonna need you to start keeping your phone on your nightstand."

"Are you going to start paying me to be on call?"

/retail management...


Hell, I'm a doctor and I wouldn't stand for that. If I'm on call, I'm on call. If I'm not, though, don't call me. Period. There is a resident on call 24-7-365, and you don't need to call me just because you thought of a question you wanted to ask.

I might, *might* do a short-notice time swap for a colleague if they asked and had good reason, but doing such with no prior notice? Nope.

Personal favorite is when I got a call from one of the local home health aide services at about 11pm. Apparently one of their patients hadn't taken his multivitamin at lunch, and they needed a doctor to say it was okay. For some reason, calling during anything resembling business hours was a totally foreign concept.
 
2012-09-24 11:13:20 AM
I only sleep 8 hours because I get woken up. I`d sleep for 10-12 beautiful uninterrupted hours per day if left alone.
 
2012-09-24 01:29:34 PM

Empty Matchbook: My parents live on a gorgeous, forested island. When I go to visit them, I turn off my cellphone and check my email once a day to make sure nothing terrible has happened. It's NOT THAT HARD to send yourself

hurdling back to the mysterious, nebulous time of 1994.

www.mememaker.net 

Really?
Oooookay.
 
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