And we wonder why Texans turn out to be... well, Texans.

/Waits for shiatstorm from Tx Farkers...

FTA: "Watch video here"

Well, chit. That was just the video of her blathering on TV. Where's the other vid... What -- 15? Oh, nevermind.

/ disapoint all around

I have the distinction of being a child of a man that got four weeks of detention and later a suspension for, on two separate occasions, smacking the teacher back when he tried. First time, he allegedly grabbed the paddle in mid swing, wrenched it out of the teacher's hand, and threw it back at him. Second time, he just took the direct route and punched the guy in the chin.

This was the 70s, the very tail end of the acceptability of "smack the kids around I public school to make them respect you.". My dad says it was Vietnam that killed that kind of activity. That the Vietnam era really woke younger generations up to the fact that blind respect for one's elders is probably stupid, since they should earn it like anyone else, and that a lot of times the elders are as completely full of shiat as anyone else.

From there, he said it was a small leap to realize that his 17 year old, hormone driven body built from lifting car fenders and engines every day after school at my grandfather's auto shop could probably take down an overweight, middle aged chain smoker who sits down at a desk all day. Then he advised me that if I ever did anything like that, he would personally kick my ass for being as stupid as he was.

/my father is a man of contradictions...

Shadowknight: I have the distinction of being a child of a man that got four weeks of detention and later a suspension for, on two separate occasions, smacking the teacher back when he tried. First time, he allegedly grabbed the paddle in mid swing, wrenched it out of the teacher's hand, and threw it back at him. Second time, he just took the direct route and punched the guy in the chin.

This was the 70s, the very tail end of the acceptability of "smack the kids around I public school to make them respect you.". My dad says it was Vietnam that killed that kind of activity. That the Vietnam era really woke younger generations up to the fact that blind respect for one's elders is probably stupid, since they should earn it like anyone else, and that a lot of times the elders are as completely full of shiat as anyone else.

From there, he said it was a small leap to realize that his 17 year old, hormone driven body built from lifting car fenders and engines every day after school at my grandfather's auto shop could probably take down an overweight, middle aged chain smoker who sits down at a desk all day. Then he advised me that if I ever did anything like that, he would personally kick my ass for being as stupid as he was.

/my father is a man of contradictions...

Haha most parents are in that sense. "Ha ha there was this one hilarious time when I was young we *insert story about stupid thing they did*... but if you ever do anything like that I'll kill you." It's pretty damned common, honestly. Parents will look back on and glorify their youthful transgressions with a sort of tongue-in-cheek approach, because they've already learned from whatever it was. But parents instinctively want to protect their kids from having to make the same mistakes and learn the hard way, hence the "do as I say, not as I did." Thing is, it's something that kids have to do for themselves. Teens especially need to figure out acceptable risk taking behaviors, plus they're getting into the swing of competing for social status at that point, thus no matter how many times mom/dad say "You'd better farking not," you can pretty much guarantee they're going to try.

So how far did you end up going to rebel against a teacher, out of curiousity? Did you back off a bit and learn from your dad, or did you go full on "FARK YOU, YOU DON'T OWN ME!" on them?

Oh my god....

Rather than reprimanding the vice principal, WFAA reported that Springtown ISD Superintendent Mike Kelley was going to ask the school board to abolish the same-gender policy, claiming that adhering to it can be difficult on some campuses because of the ratio of male to female teachers.

Also, she chose to be spanked so she wouldn't get suspended. She was worried about her grades. That's farked up.

No word on what happened to the person who benefited from her homework and copied it. My guess, probably one of the football players ... so nothing.

Shadowknight: Then he advised me that if I ever did anything like that, he would personally kick my ass for being as stupid as he was.

It's stupid to try to defend yourself against someone physically abusing you?

weave: Shadowknight: Then he advised me that if I ever did anything like that, he would personally kick my ass for being as stupid as he was.

It's stupid to try to defend yourself against someone physically abusing you?

His words, not mine. But I think he was talking about dropping a teacher out. If the teacher tried t hit me first, he'd probably cheer me on and want to help.

batcookie: Shadowknight: I have the distinction of being a child of a man that got four weeks of detention and later a suspension for, on two separate occasions, smacking the teacher back when he tried. First time, he allegedly grabbed the paddle in mid swing, wrenched it out of the teacher's hand, and threw it back at him. Second time, he just took the direct route and punched the guy in the chin.

This was the 70s, the very tail end of the acceptability of "smack the kids around I public school to make them respect you.". My dad says it was Vietnam that killed that kind of activity. That the Vietnam era really woke younger generations up to the fact that blind respect for one's elders is probably stupid, since they should earn it like anyone else, and that a lot of times the elders are as completely full of shiat as anyone else.

From there, he said it was a small leap to realize that his 17 year old, hormone driven body built from lifting car fenders and engines every day after school at my grandfather's auto shop could probably take down an overweight, middle aged chain smoker who sits down at a desk all day. Then he advised me that if I ever did anything like that, he would personally kick my ass for being as stupid as he was.

/my father is a man of contradictions...

Haha most parents are in that sense. "Ha ha there was this one hilarious time when I was young we *insert story about stupid thing they did*... but if you ever do anything like that I'll kill you." It's pretty damned common, honestly. Parents will look back on and glorify their youthful transgressions with a sort of tongue-in-cheek approach, because they've already learned from whatever it was. But parents instinctively want to protect their kids from having to make the same mistakes and learn the hard way, hence the "do as I say, not as I did." Thing is, it's something that kids have to do for themselves. Teens especially need to figure out acceptable risk taking behaviors, plus they're getting into the swing of competing for social status at that point, thus no matter how many times mom/dad say "You'd better farking not," you can pretty much guarantee they're going to try.

So how far did you end up going to rebel against a teacher, out of curiousity? Did you back off a bit and learn from your dad, or did you go full on "FARK YOU, YOU DON'T OWN ME!" on them?

Honestly? I was that student that barely passed, even though I aced every test and exam, because I refused to do homework my entire high school career. I looked at it as I put in my eight hours, and can pass you're tests, so if you wanted more work out of me you'd better pay me.

Looking back, it would have been a lot easier to do the farking homework and not been grounded perpetually for four years. But that's what those teen years do to you. Now I'm doing the same thing with my daughter, who is in third grade and keeps "forgetting" her homework at school.

The wheel, it keeps a turnin'...

I can pass you're tests...

Oh, the irony. It was the auto correct, I swear...

I'd paddle it.

Bonanza Jellybean: I'd paddle it.

FTA said Jorgensen, who took photographs of the damage as evidence.

Child porn?

But she said she 'came unglued' when she saw the welts on her daughter's bottom and found out that a man was responsible.

Tomorrow's headline: "Mom arrested for checking out daughter's ass".

Oh no. Another snowflakes meets reality thread. When I was that age my dad use to stick a tent stake slathered in hot sauc in my ear and whack it with a hammer when I didn't take out the trash. Did it hurt? Hell yeah it did. It hurt as bad as all the times he'd make me line in the driveway while he did a burn out on the small of my back with his Escalade. But you know what? It was good for me! Now I'm a better person for it, not like these coddled dish rags they call "kids" these days.

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Oh no. Another snowflakes meets reality thread. When I was that age my dad use to stick a tent stake slathered in hot sauc in my ear and whack it with a hammer when I didn't take out the trash. Did it hurt? Hell yeah it did. It hurt as bad as all the times he'd make me line in the driveway while he did a burn out on the small of my back with his Escalade. But you know what? It was good for me! Now I'm a better person for it, not like these coddled dish rags they call "kids" these days.

Don't feed this troll....

Shadowknight: I have the distinction of being a child of a man that got four weeks of detention and later a suspension for, on two separate occasions, smacking the teacher back when he tried. First time, he allegedly grabbed the paddle in mid swing, wrenched it out of the teacher's hand, and threw it back at him. Second time, he just took the direct route and punched the guy in the chin.

This was the 70s, the very tail end of the acceptability of "smack the kids around I public school to make them respect you.". My dad says it was Vietnam that killed that kind of activity. That the Vietnam era really woke younger generations up to the fact that blind respect for one's elders is probably stupid, since they should earn it like anyone else, and that a lot of times the elders are as completely full of shiat as anyone else.

From there, he said it was a small leap to realize that his 17 year old, hormone driven body built from lifting car fenders and engines every day after school at my grandfather's auto shop could probably take down an overweight, middle aged chain smoker who sits down at a desk all day. Then he advised me that if I ever did anything like that, he would personally kick my ass for being as stupid as he was.

/my father is a man of contradictions...

Wow, sounds like my dad. The reason I almost never got away with anything was he pretty much did it all and knew what to look for.

Day_Old_Dutchie: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Oh no. Another snowflakes meets reality thread. When I was that age my dad use to stick a tent stake slathered in hot sauc in my ear and whack it with a hammer when I didn't take out the trash. Did it hurt? Hell yeah it did. It hurt as bad as all the times he'd make me line in the driveway while he did a burn out on the small of my back with his Escalade. But you know what? It was good for me! Now I'm a better person for it, not like these coddled dish rags they call "kids" these days.

Don't feed this troll....

No No. It's all true. Hot sauce, tent stakes, Escalade, the works. That all really happened. (rolls eyes)

When Parents spank their kids out of love, in a non abusive manner, fine. Anybody else takes a paddle to my kids, will see a Fathers rage from the receiving end.

It won't be benign...

Whoa Texas...u mad. I was starting to think that Texas just gets a bad rap and doesn't deserve it but...corporal punishment? How many men would just let it go if their daughter got spanked by some guy? Principal or not

SBinRR: But she said she 'came unglued' when she saw the welts on her daughter's bottom and found out that a man was responsible.

Tomorrow's headline: "Mom arrested for checking out daughter's ass".

She took pictures. That's child pornography. Burn her house down and sow the ground with salt. Lock her in a cement block and toss away the jack hammer. For the children!

Seriously though, this whole story is yet another case where it's fail all around.

The daughter got caught cheatin' (NEVER GET CAUGHT) and opted for the paddlin' but then told her mom (SNITCHES GET STITCHES) Fail count: 2

The principle paddled her. (NEVER HIT A GIRL) Fail count: 3

The mom went full retard. (YOU NEVER GO FULL RETARD) Fail count: 4

Seriously. It's like people don't think things through anymore. (DOGLOVER FORGOT PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IDIOTS) Fail count 5.

Shadowknight: I have the distinction of being a child of a man that got four weeks of detention and later a suspension for, on two separate occasions, smacking the teacher back when he tried. First time, he allegedly grabbed the paddle in mid swing, wrenched it out of the teacher's hand, and threw it back at him. Second time, he just took the direct route and punched the guy in the chin.

This was the 70s, the very tail end of the acceptability of "smack the kids around I public school to make them respect you.". My dad says it was Vietnam that killed that kind of activity. That the Vietnam era really woke younger generations up to the fact that blind respect for one's elders is probably stupid, since they should earn it like anyone else, and that a lot of times the elders are as completely full of shiat as anyone else.

From there, he said it was a small leap to realize that his 17 year old, hormone driven body built from lifting car fenders and engines every day after school at my grandfather's auto shop could probably take down an overweight, middle aged chain smoker who sits down at a desk all day. Then he advised me that if I ever did anything like that, he would personally kick my ass for being as stupid as he was.

/my father is a man of contradictions...

That's all well and good. But my late grandfather was kicked out of high school for farking his teacher sometime back around 1900. We both deserve to be proud.

Day_Old_Dutchie: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Oh no. Another snowflakes meets reality thread. When I was that age my dad use to stick a tent stake slathered in hot sauc in my ear and whack it with a hammer when I didn't take out the trash. Did it hurt? Hell yeah it did. It hurt as bad as all the times he'd make me line in the driveway while he did a burn out on the small of my back with his Escalade. But you know what? It was good for me! Now I'm a better person for it, not like these coddled dish rags they call "kids" these days.

Don't feed this troll....

Sarcasm is trolling now?

bighairyguy: I was in 5th and 6th grades in Australia in the mid-60s. Getting smacked on the palm or knuckles for a variety of infractions like talking or not doing your homework. You'd have to dodge an eraser or piece of chalk now and then too. Insolence could draw a yardstick to the leg and for severe offenses, the headmaster had a cane. Other than the cane, the punishments were used more as attention-getters and embarrassments. The guy in the article went way over the line with how hard he the girl. I'd say he needs to be on the receiving end of a brutal spanking but he'd probably enjoy it.

Oh hell, the chalk-dodge was part of a solid education when I was growing up! Not actual assault, though. That wasn't done. And, oh lookie! My state, the one that didn't beat the kids, was number one in education.

Let's see how Texas is doing with that...

Chances she turns to stripping or S&M to "pay" for college?

She's probably been spanked before and liked it and that's why she picked that as her "punishment".

SBinRR: But she said she 'came unglued' when she saw the welts on her daughter's bottom and found out that a man was responsible.

Tomorrow's headline: "Mom arrested for checking out daughter's ass".

Yep. Or the start of a Penthouse Letter....

Dear Penthouse...I was in the shower the other day when my mom came barging in as I soaped up my tender bottom....

'It was bright red. I still have welts on me today,' Taylor added, 48 hours after the paddling.

Pics or didn't happen.

bestie1: 'It was bright red. I still have welts on me today,' Taylor added, 48 hours after the paddling.

Pics or didn't happen.

You know those women who liked to get spanked until their bottoms are red? And yes, they do exist, as I am sure some of the farkers that don't live in their mother's basement can attest. Guess where they got that idea? If this is outlawed that won't happen anymore. That would be an outrage!

/Not my thing.

.......qualtrough: as I am sure some of the farkers that don't live in their mother's basement can attest.

I think I've spotted the flaw in your reasoning.

Shadowknight: batcookie: Shadowknight: I have the distinction of being a child of a man that got four weeks of detention and later a suspension for, on two separate occasions, smacking the teacher back when he tried. First time, he allegedly grabbed the paddle in mid swing, wrenched it out of the teacher's hand, and threw it back at him. Second time, he just took the direct route and punched the guy in the chin.

This was the 70s, the very tail end of the acceptability of "smack the kids around I public school to make them respect you.". My dad says it was Vietnam that killed that kind of activity. That the Vietnam era really woke younger generations up to the fact that blind respect for one's elders is probably stupid, since they should earn it like anyone else, and that a lot of times the elders are as completely full of shiat as anyone else.

From there, he said it was a small leap to realize that his 17 year old, hormone driven body built from lifting car fenders and engines every day after school at my grandfather's auto shop could probably take down an overweight, middle aged chain smoker who sits down at a desk all day. Then he advised me that if I ever did anything like that, he would personally kick my ass for being as stupid as he was.

/my father is a man of contradictions...

Haha most parents are in that sense. "Ha ha there was this one hilarious time when I was young we *insert story about stupid thing they did*... but if you ever do anything like that I'll kill you." It's pretty damned common, honestly. Parents will look back on and glorify their youthful transgressions with a sort of tongue-in-cheek approach, because they've already learned from whatever it was. But parents instinctively want to protect their kids from having to make the same mistakes and learn the hard way, hence the "do as I say, not as I did." Thing is, it's something that kids have to do for themselves. Teens especially need to figure out acceptable risk taking behaviors, plus they're getting ...



I hate to tell you but you're not passing anyone's tests if you don't know the difference between your and you're. But you knew that already.

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When I was in elementary school, in the early 80's, I had a 1st grade teacher that was downright sadistic with corporal punishment.

That was the only punishment she had, the only thing she knew how to do to keep order in the classroom. She'd been teaching for 20+ years, and she spent more time with a wooden paddle in her hands than chalk.

Talk out of turn. 3 licks with the paddle.
Messy desk. 3 licks with the paddle.
Talking back. 3 licks with the paddle.
Talking without permission. 3 licks with the paddle.

Seriously, it was like that Simpsons bit with "that's a paddlin'" I got paddled 3 or 4 times a day sometimes.

In the worst example I can remember, I'd just got paddled the day before for being late for returning from recess (i.e. she thought I dawdled in the hall, so being last child back in, I had to go out into the hall and get paddled). So, next day coming back from recess I make sure to be one of the first students back, but she's standing at the door to the classroom on one side, talking to another teacher on the other side of the door. The only way to enter the classroom was to walk between them. Big mistake, she went more nuclear than usual at the idea of a child walking between to adults having a conversation. Instead of the usual 3 licks with the paddle, I got 6 licks with a paddle for daring to walk between adults talking to each other.

Somebody with that much hatred of small children should not be teaching 1st grade.

My mother was at the school practically every day, yelling at the principal to put an end to this, saying it was abusive and savage. My mom was never a fan of corporal punishment, but in the early 1980's in rural Kentucky, that was a very unorthodox position and schoolteachers had wide discretion in physically assaulting students for disciplinary purposes.

When our state banned corporal punishment in schools, she retired immediately.

CSB time.

In junior high I had a social studied teacher who thought it was fun to hit his students with a board regularly. Shop students would make him various shapes and forms of paddles. He had dozens. One Friday night following one more paddling he had dispensed me and a couple buddies decided to find our way into the school and rid ourselves of his paddles. We proceeded to carve them into pieces on his desk. We left with no other damage done.

There was a pretty good shiarstorm come Monday morning with cops and principals and such. Never got caught and that was the end of the paddles.

I went to school, maybe 20 minutes or so away from there. Corporal punishment was still active back in 2002.

Silverstaff: When I was in elementary school, in the early 80's, I had a 1st grade teacher that was downright sadistic with corporal punishment.

That was the only punishment she had, the only thing she knew how to do to keep order in the classroom. She'd been teaching for 20+ years, and she spent more time with a wooden paddle in her hands than chalk.

Talk out of turn. 3 licks with the paddle.
Messy desk. 3 licks with the paddle.
Talking back. 3 licks with the paddle.
Talking without permission. 3 licks with the paddle.

Seriously, it was like that Simpsons bit with "that's a paddlin'" I got paddled 3 or 4 times a day sometimes.

In the worst example I can remember, I'd just got paddled the day before for being late for returning from recess (i.e. she thought I dawdled in the hall, so being last child back in, I had to go out into the hall and get paddled). So, next day coming back from recess I make sure to be one of the first students back, but she's standing at the door to the classroom on one side, talking to another teacher on the other side of the door. The only way to enter the classroom was to walk between them. Big mistake, she went more nuclear than usual at the idea of a child walking between to adults having a conversation. Instead of the usual 3 licks with the paddle, I got 6 licks with a paddle for daring to walk between adults talking to each other.

Somebody with that much hatred of small children should not be teaching 1st grade.

My mother was at the school practically every day, yelling at the principal to put an end to this, saying it was abusive and savage. My mom was never a fan of corporal punishment, but in the early 1980's in rural Kentucky, that was a very unorthodox position and schoolteachers had wide discretion in physically assaulting students for disciplinary purposes.

When our state banned corporal punishment in schools, she retired immediately.

corporal punishment?

You know, assuming the results were as bad as reported, if a parent did this and it somehow become known to certain authorities, said parent would be in some serious trouble.

Or not, I dunno, this is Texas.

Ponygirl thread late last night, spanking thread this morning.

Freak flags flyin' high.

heili skrimsli: At what age does spanking/paddling become unacceptable?

Clearly you can't paddle an adult employee for missing a deadline or coming in late. Adults have the right to use the force necessary to stop a physical assault.

So for those of you who think there's nothing wrong with physical punishment, at what age is it no longer acceptable to hit a person as punishment? When they're big enough to defend themselves effectively? When they're old enough to use other forms of consequences? Where's the line where they obtain the right to use force to stop an assault?

Or is it, as I've heard some proponents of spanking say, always acceptable to hit your own offspring, even when they are adults?
I don't know, at 17 my stepdad tried to punch me. It ended in a stalemate pretty much, and he never tried to do it again.

I know she's 15 but I'm going to have to go with giggity. Too bad mom has such bad case of biatch face because the fact that she has a tit tat and thinks it's appropriate to have it hanging out while being morally outraged probably means they'll be tag teaming some lucky guys in 2014 or sooner depending on the age of consent in Texas.

Is everyone missing the more important story on that page?