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2012-09-23 07:55:07 AM
Apple already limits supply to increase hype, so they don't like the hoarders jumping in on their gig.
 
2012-09-23 08:43:59 AM
I can't believe there are STILL people that get jacked at being FIRST! to buy an IPhone. Do they have any idea how retarded they look?

www.nypost.com
 
2012-09-23 08:45:41 AM
If people didn't go full retard every time a new one came out, this wouldn't be a problem.
 
2012-09-23 09:06:34 AM
Suckers. I couldn't believe the small AT&T store in my town had a line of people waiting outside at 7am on launch day for the iPhone.

And I laugh because two of the new features on this iPhone is overhyped at the moment. Apple Maps is disappointing, and though at first I was jealous of the Passbook app that Apple created (because it's an awesome idea for a phone) it does really have that many companies listed on it, including a few shown on some Passbook ads.
 
2012-09-23 09:07:58 AM
The window for making profit here is pretty damn small. Apple's faked supply drip-feed only lasts a few weeks, and the demographic who are willing to buy the phone above market price from some guy in an alley will already have an iPhone5...
 
2012-09-23 09:08:21 AM
There's one born every minute.
 
2012-09-23 09:16:16 AM

The BBC stories and examples of the Apple maps debacle are pretty funny.

www.zonkey.co.uk

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19659736
 
2012-09-23 09:19:14 AM

skinink: And I laugh because two of the new features on this iPhone is overhyped at the moment.


The news people around here were going apple stores and interviewing people in line as usual. Funny that everyone they asked about why they wanted on all said the same thing. "Um, it's thinner and has a bigger screen!". Idiots. You waited in line for three days for that? I doubt they knew anymore about it than that. Apple fans are just farking tarded.
 
2012-09-23 09:23:28 AM
They can't order it online?
 
2012-09-23 09:38:25 AM

abhorrent1: skinink: And I laugh because two of the new features on this iPhone is overhyped at the moment.

The news people around here were going apple stores and interviewing people in line as usual. Funny that everyone they asked about why they wanted on all said the same thing. "Um, it's thinner and has a bigger screen!". Idiots. You waited in line for three days for that? I doubt they knew anymore about it than that. Apple fans are just farking tarded.


www.aboyandhiscomputer.com
 
2012-09-23 09:42:31 AM

angrymonday: They can't order it online?


yes, but they can't have it NOW.

i bought one yesterday on a whim. i went into an AT&T store (not an apple store - smart) just to see. sure enough, they had them. i was due for an upgrade, so i got one for $199. i went right to game stop and sold my old iphone 4 for $150. so new iphone 5, no wait, $50. not bad.

it's an awfully nice phone, i must say. but i didn't act like an idiot when i got it.
 
2012-09-23 09:51:05 AM
The iphone 5 also comes pre-scratched, so you don't have to get all stressed out worrying about putting that first ding in it.

Link
 
2012-09-23 09:55:42 AM
damn, I should have thought of that.
 
2012-09-23 09:59:30 AM

FlashHarry: i went right to game stop and sold my old iphone 4 for $150


holy hell...$150...

That is 4 and not 4S? I guess I'm going to need to hurry and sell mine.
 
2012-09-23 10:30:05 AM

bulldg4life: FlashHarry: i went right to game stop and sold my old iphone 4 for $150

holy hell...$150...

That is 4 and not 4S? I guess I'm going to need to hurry and sell mine.


my friend sold her 4S for $295 yesterday at the same place. so her iphone 5 was free and then some.
 
2012-09-23 10:36:07 AM
Damn, I just checked Gazelle and you are right. $145 for a 4 that is in average condition. And here I was just thinking about keeping it and using it as a touch....guess I'll be paying for my new 5.
 
2012-09-23 10:52:22 AM
With the new maps being as awful as it is, I think I'll just upgrade my old 3 to ios 5.
 
2012-09-23 11:13:55 AM

Znuh: With the new maps being as awful as it is, I think I'll just upgrade my old 3 to ios 5.


it's not quite as bad as everyone says. still, it's nowhere near as good as google maps. but considering the project involved mapping the entire planet, i'll cut them some slack. still, they shouldn't be beta-testing it on their customers. they should've waited until it was ready for prime-time. once they work out the kinks, i think it'll be as good or better than google.

until then, there are workarounds to get google maps back on your phone.
 
2012-09-23 11:15:13 AM

bulldg4life: Damn, I just checked Gazelle and you are right. $145 for a 4 that is in average condition. And here I was just thinking about keeping it and using it as a touch....guess I'll be paying for my new 5.


i'd do it sooner rather than later. i'm guessing there will be a glut of 4's and 4S's on the market in the next few weeks.
 
2012-09-23 11:52:47 AM

FlashHarry: Znuh: With the new maps being as awful as it is, I think I'll just upgrade my old 3 to ios 5.

it's not quite as bad as everyone says. still, it's nowhere near as good as google maps. but considering the project involved mapping the entire planet, i'll cut them some slack. still, they shouldn't be beta-testing it on their customers. they should've waited until it was ready for prime-time. once they work out the kinks, i think it'll be as good or better than google.

until then, there are workarounds to get google maps back on your phone.


The PassBook feature is also pretty meh right now, despite what the demonstration model in the stores suggest. Not so much about me having a stack of plane tickets, hotel reservations, and concert tickets at the moment, but the mechanism/process of getting said things imported into it is not particularly straightforward.
 
2012-09-23 12:05:15 PM

Bungles: The BBC stories and examples of the Apple maps debacle are pretty funny.


So are Google's maps.

dl.dropbox.com

You can walk on water, can't you?
 
2012-09-23 12:10:59 PM
I'll wait on my Bumble bee phone
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-23 12:11:50 PM

skinink: And I laugh because two of the new features on this iPhone is overhyped at the moment.


Aside from it being the fastest smartphone on the planet, you mean?
 
2012-09-23 12:23:00 PM

BullBearMS: skinink: And I laugh because two of the new features on this iPhone is overhyped at the moment.

Aside from it being the fastest smartphone on the planet, you mean?


The bottleneck isn't the processor. It's the user.
 
2012-09-23 12:24:18 PM

BullBearMS: Bungles: The BBC stories and examples of the Apple maps debacle are pretty funny.

So are Google's maps.

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You can walk on water, can't you?


I just tried this myself on Google Maps, and it doesn't do it.
 
2012-09-23 12:31:49 PM
And the upside is that the recession / depression must be over !
 
2012-09-23 12:32:18 PM

finnished: BullBearMS: Bungles: The BBC stories and examples of the Apple maps debacle are pretty funny.

So are Google's maps.

[dl.dropbox.com image 460x285]

You can walk on water, can't you?

I just tried this myself on Google Maps, and it doesn't do it.


I just tried it again myself, and it still does.

Did you not select walking directions?
 
2012-09-23 12:35:17 PM

wildcardjack: The bottleneck isn't the processor. It's the user.


No. When processing video, the bottleneck is definitely the processor.

Your phone can edit the video it takes, can't it?
 
2012-09-23 12:47:11 PM

BullBearMS: skinink: And I laugh because two of the new features on this iPhone is overhyped at the moment.

Aside from it being the fastest smartphone on the planet, you mean?


That's the OS. Apple and Microsoft knows how to make it smooth as butter
 
2012-09-23 12:47:42 PM

Close2TheEdge: I can't believe there are STILL people that get jacked at being FIRST! to buy an IPhone. Do they have any idea how retarded they look?

[www.nypost.com image 300x300]


She looks like one of those people "in line" in the new Samsung commercial.
 
2012-09-23 12:57:13 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: BullBearMS: skinink: And I laugh because two of the new features on this iPhone is overhyped at the moment.

Aside from it being the fastest smartphone on the planet, you mean?

That's the OS. Apple and Microsoft knows how to make it smooth as butter


Apple and Microsoft definitely had the advantage of leveraging the GPU to handle the user interface elements from the first version of their respective OSes instead of having the CPU run the programs and draw the UI as Android did. It led to Android being a stuttery mess in comparison.

They finally have rewritten that part of the OS, but only one percent of the users have managed to install it after two months on the market.

However, that's not what's at play here. PC Magazine tested the both the CPU and the GPU on the iPhone 5 and found both to be the fastest available on any smartphone.
 
2012-09-23 01:10:39 PM
I played with one on Friday and honestly wasn't that impressed. Its definitely lighter (feels the same as my galaxy s3, which is bigger), and thinner. But overall its really not very different at all from the 4s, which with the latest os upgrade does everything the iphone 5 does, and less than the android phones do.

Personally, I don't see what the hoopla is about. It makes me even happier with my gs3.
 
2012-09-23 01:26:43 PM

BullBearMS:
Did you not select walking directions?


Oh no, I used the car directions. But I still don't see what the problem is.
 
2012-09-23 01:35:13 PM

WhoIsNotInMyKitchen: But overall its really not very different at all from the 4s, which with the latest os upgrade does everything the iphone 5 does


apart from having a bigger screen, much faster processor, and operating on an LTE network instead of 3G, rendering its network speed 10 times or more faster than that of the 4S. but apart from that....
 
2012-09-23 01:39:44 PM

finnished: BullBearMS:
Did you not select walking directions?

Oh no, I used the car directions. But I still don't see what the problem is.


Aside from instructing people to walk on water?

dl.dropbox.com
 
2012-09-23 01:47:46 PM

FlashHarry: WhoIsNotInMyKitchen: But overall its really not very different at all from the 4s, which with the latest os upgrade does everything the iphone 5 does

apart from having a bigger screen, much faster processor, and operating on an LTE network instead of 3G, rendering its network speed 10 times or more faster than that of the 4S. but apart from that....


Or the part where the phone with the much more powerful CPU and GPU can still browse the web over LTE for three hours longer than the Droid RAZR Maxx, despite the Maxx having a huge extended battery.

It's hardly impressive at all.
 
2012-09-23 01:47:56 PM
"I told her, 'I'm not getting in trouble for you!' " he said. "A lot of people are obviously here buying them to resell."

It is not illegal to resell the phones.


In other news John Colon, 27, of Brooklyn, is a fricking moron.

"I wouldn't miss it; I come and get one every time," said mechanical engineer Kevin Bennett, 35, who played hooky from work

lulz. I sure hope that's not his real name.

/NY Post is the journalistic equivlaent of that gossipy biatch you knew from high school
 
2012-09-23 01:51:18 PM

BullBearMS: Aside from instructing people to walk on water?

[dl.dropbox.com image 460x285]


No, it tells travelers to take a ferry, or ferries. Are you really this dense?
 
2012-09-23 02:03:50 PM

finnished: BullBearMS: Aside from instructing people to walk on water?

[dl.dropbox.com image 460x285]

No, it tells travelers to take a ferry, or ferries. Are you really this dense?


Because that's what it should do when you ask for walking directions?
 
2012-09-23 02:04:26 PM
It's funny that people get all worked up over something you can buy at Walmart.

Ha ha.
 
2012-09-23 02:32:49 PM
I'm as big an Apple fanboi as anyone, I guess, but I don't get the herd mentality whenever new products come out.
Maybe it's because I've been around Apple stuff so long that I am content to others work out the new bugs introduced in new stuff (see: maps). 

Also, the iPhone has been around for five years now; every new version is just a minor iteration over the last now. Nice to have, but no reason to lose one's shiat over.
 
2012-09-23 02:48:26 PM

BullBearMS: finnished: BullBearMS: Aside from instructing people to walk on water?

[dl.dropbox.com image 460x285]

No, it tells travelers to take a ferry, or ferries. Are you really this dense?

Because that's what it should do when you ask for walking directions?


I thought the problem was that it tells you to walk on water, rather than taking a ferry on water.
 
2012-09-23 03:04:44 PM

BullBearMS: finnished: BullBearMS: Aside from instructing people to walk on water?

[dl.dropbox.com image 460x285]

No, it tells travelers to take a ferry, or ferries. Are you really this dense?

Because that's what it should do when you ask for walking directions?


Yes. If you don't have a car

BullBearMS: finnished: BullBearMS: Aside from instructing people to walk on water?

[dl.dropbox.com image 460x285]

No, it tells travelers to take a ferry, or ferries. Are you really this dense?

Because that's what it should do when you ask for walking directions?


So you think it is odd that someone walking might want to take a ferry, but you don't find anything wrong with planning a 100 mile walking trip? I'd say taking public transportation makes a hell of a lot more sense than trying to walk the whole way. Google is all about picking the most efficient route. With the ferry the trip is cut down to 27 hours from the 35 hours it would take otherwise.
 
2012-09-23 03:33:46 PM
After trying to break Google maps a bit more by planning walking trips around the world, I noticed that Google really doesn't want me to walk into China. Even if I start in China, Google has me head directly out of China before continuing my journey all the way around.

As a patriot, I decided that I should visit our troops in Iraq, so I typed "USA to Iraq" with walking directions. It has me walk to Vancouver, boat to Hawaii, boat to Japan, walk around Japan, boat to China, walk North up the coast of China into Russian, and then over to Iraq. Even if I specify that I want to stop in China, it has me walk in and then back out as soon as possible.

Why does Google hate China?
 
2012-09-23 03:43:54 PM
i112.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-23 04:41:12 PM

BullBearMS: finnished: BullBearMS: Aside from instructing people to walk on water?

[dl.dropbox.com image 460x285]

No, it tells travelers to take a ferry, or ferries. Are you really this dense?

Because that's what it should do when you ask for walking directions?


There's two suggested routes, one with a ferry. If someone just wants to walk, then it takes about 2 seconds to click on the other suggested route (the one that has no ferry).

Not that difficult a concept.

For further explanation, It's looking algorithmically for what's the fastest route, and walking directions include ferries (because that allows people to go across bodies of water, it already assumes people aren't swimming great distances, and it doesn't want to keep islands out of your reach). So naturally, the first suggested route is going to be the one with 5 hours cut out of the travel time (because the ferry travels a lot faster than walking pace). And as I said, it does keep the other suggested route for people who don't want to go on the ferries.
 
2012-09-23 05:26:54 PM
The people who line up are a tiny fraction of iPhone users. We're talking less than 0.1 percent. But you losers keep on parroting the party line from Samsung, and you keep on believing you have an independent opinion.

Pathetic.
 
2012-09-23 05:33:29 PM

BullBearMS: FlashHarry: WhoIsNotInMyKitchen: But overall its really not very different at all from the 4s, which with the latest os upgrade does everything the iphone 5 does

apart from having a bigger screen, much faster processor, and operating on an LTE network instead of 3G, rendering its network speed 10 times or more faster than that of the 4S. but apart from that....

Or the part where the phone with the much more powerful CPU and GPU can still browse the web over LTE for three hours longer than the Droid RAZR Maxx, despite the Maxx having a huge extended battery.

It's hardly impressive at all.


It's really not, since the iPhone 5 saves a lot of battery by having a smaller, lower resolution screen than (for instance) the S3. Since screen is one of (if not the) top battery drains on a phone, having a smaller screen makes bigger battery life easy if you're willing to put up with the smaller, lower resolution image. That's a tradeoff that Apple decided to make, I guess. Android phones have been moving away from that due to customer demand *shrug* to each their own.
 
kab
2012-09-23 05:48:51 PM
*laughs at anyone who would wait in line for one of these, or any device like it, ever*
 
2012-09-23 08:11:07 PM
Our priorities are all wrong.
 
2012-09-23 10:11:28 PM

BullBearMS: Aside from instructing people to walk on water?


I assume you're aware that even if you select Google's pedestrian directions, that over water portion is on a ferry. Google doesn't tell you to swim any more, like their trans atlantic directions used to. On the other hand, directions from California to Honolulu do involve the use of a kayak.

Microsoft's mapping website (I forget what it was called 12 or so years ago) used to have some fun bugs. It once gave me directions from DC to Baltimore via Nova Scotia.
 
2012-09-23 10:15:47 PM
It's hard to believe that in a 10 year period or so, people have gone from making calls (and txts) to spending hours in line obsessing over a CELL PHONE, even though there are hundreds of similar devices that do more and don't have a shiny Apple logo in it.

\Should have bought Apple stock 10 years ago.
 
2012-09-23 10:24:43 PM
Probably same people that buy a new wardrobe every year. They aren't really interested in functionality, as the 5 doesn't do much the 4s doesn't, but they are of the belief that having the 5 makes them cooler than the rest of us.

I'll upgrade when my contract is up and I don't have to pay full price for a new phone.
 
2012-09-24 12:12:36 AM

Dokushin: It's really not, since the iPhone 5 saves a lot of battery by having a smaller, lower resolution screen


That's funny. Apple's screen got bigger and it's resolution increased, yet it's battery life went up, not down.

I guess what you are saying is that Apple really is magical after all?
 
2012-09-24 12:21:23 AM
Dave: "Google. I'd like you to give me walking directions from point A to point B."

dl.dropbox.com

Google: "I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't let you do that."
 
2012-09-24 02:33:26 AM

BullBearMS: Dokushin: It's really not, since the iPhone 5 saves a lot of battery by having a smaller, lower resolution screen

That's funny. Apple's screen got bigger and it's resolution increased, yet it's battery life went up, not down.

I guess what you are saying is that Apple really is magical after all?


New tech is better than old tech. We were talking about present-day smartphones, of which ones with a smaller, lower-resolution screen (like the iPhone 5) are going to have a power advantage since there is less display to drive. It probably factored into Apple's decision to go with a 4" screen not capable of 720p -- it extends battery life.
 
2012-09-24 03:24:01 AM

Dokushin: New tech is better than old tech.


Samsung's Galaxy S III didn't come out less than two months ago? Why yes it did.

So how did Apple's screen get bigger and it's resolution get higher while the battery life increased and the device got much thinner?

How does Apple's phone spank the Galaxy S III on CPU performance, GPU performance, and battery life all at the same time?
 
2012-09-24 03:51:05 AM

BullBearMS: Dokushin: New tech is better than old tech.

Samsung's Galaxy S III didn't come out less than two months ago? Why yes it did.

So how did Apple's screen get bigger and it's resolution get higher while the battery life increased and the device got much thinner?

How does Apple's phone spank the Galaxy S III on CPU performance, GPU performance, and battery life all at the same time?


Allow me to be more clear.

The S3 is a new phone. The iPhone 5 is a new phone. Therefore, their capabilities are comparable. The iPhone 4s is old tech, so it's capabilities are not interesting.

The iPhone 5 got better battery life than the iPhone 4s by being a newer phone.

Since the iPhone 5 and the S3 came out at similar times, their battery capabilities are more comparable. The iPhone 5 gains a battery life lead by having a lower-res, lower-contrast, smaller screen than the S3. As the screen is the item that typically consumes the most power, a sizable reduction in screen area (which is obvious when comparing the iPhone 5 to the S3) corresponds to a sizable increase in battery life.

CPU: Benchmarks are largely single-threaded; the S3 has a quad-core, which Android is better equipped to take advantage of. I'd say the benefit here is unclear until there's more real-world use.

GPU: The iPhone 5 has less than 80% of the pixels the S3 does, meaning that even with the same GPU it would seem faster. The margins are actually smaller than they should be; this is another area Apple clearly planned on leveraging when they planned to go with a smaller, lower resolution non-HD screen.
 
2012-09-24 04:18:59 AM

Dokushin: Since the iPhone 5 and the S3 came out at similar times, their battery capabilities are more comparable. The iPhone 5 gains a battery life lead by having a lower-res, lower-contrast, smaller screen than the S3.


The Galaxy S III has a much larger case and therefore has room for a much larger battery to make up for the difference in screen sizes. It still gets spanked on battery life by the new iPhone with it's much faster CPU and GPU.

Dokushin: CPU: Benchmarks are largely single-threaded


No. No they aren't. Web browsing in particular is multithreaded and Apple spanks Android on browsermark.

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Dokushin: the S3 has a quad-core


Not in the United States, it doesn't.

Dokushin: The iPhone 5 has less than 80% of the pixels the S3 does, meaning that even with the same GPU it would seem faster.


Also not true.

PC Magazine
Performance in the "onscreen" tests is dependent on a phone's graphics power but also on screen resolution (you can do more frames per second if you're pushing fewer pixels.) The "offscreen" tests are purely graphics-crunching power. The Galaxy S III has 26 percent more pixels than the iPhone 5 (921,600 to the iPhone's 727,400) but as you can see, in the "offscreen" measure of raw graphics performance, the iPhone 5 doubles the Galaxy S III's result. It's simply a more powerful phone.

My, that's a lot of false claims for one little post.
 
2012-09-24 06:02:23 AM

BullBearMS: Dokushin: Since the iPhone 5 and the S3 came out at similar times, their battery capabilities are more comparable. The iPhone 5 gains a battery life lead by having a lower-res, lower-contrast, smaller screen than the S3.

The Galaxy S III has a much larger case and therefore has room for a much larger battery to make up for the difference in screen sizes. It still gets spanked on battery life by the new iPhone with it's much faster CPU and GPU.

Dokushin: CPU: Benchmarks are largely single-threaded

No. No they aren't. Web browsing in particular is multithreaded and Apple spanks Android on browsermark.

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Dokushin: the S3 has a quad-core

Not in the United States, it doesn't.

Dokushin: The iPhone 5 has less than 80% of the pixels the S3 does, meaning that even with the same GPU it would seem faster.

Also not true.

PC Magazine
Performance in the "onscreen" tests is dependent on a phone's graphics power but also on screen resolution (you can do more frames per second if you're pushing fewer pixels.) The "offscreen" tests are purely graphics-crunching power. The Galaxy S III has 26 percent more pixels than the iPhone 5 (921,600 to the iPhone's 727,400) but as you can see, in the "offscreen" measure of raw graphics performance, the iPhone 5 doubles the Galaxy S III's result. It's simply a more powerful phone.

My, that's a lot of false claims for one little post.


You're seeing the marketing and not doing the research.

Battery: It's true that larger phones have more room for battery, but the space that a larger screen creates doesn't mean battery time "profit." A 20% larger screen doesn't make room for a 20% larger battery.

Browsermark: I can't believe how much hype this is getting. Browsermark is a browser benchmark; it runs in your browser. It has much more to do with the stock browsers on iOS and Android than it does with the hardware. It's not a hardware benchmark. One more time -- it's not a hardware benchmark. If you want to argue that the default iOS browser is better than the default Android one, that's fine by me; that's why I always install something else. (This all 100% applies to Sunspider, also, which is a javascript benchmark developed solely to test differing implementations of browsers -- nothing to do with hardware.)

The memory bandwidth tests are clearly in the iPhone's favor, and that's to their credit. That's not some magic decisive victory, though, and certainly not the "spanking" you keep calling it.

Quad core: I understand if you want to use the slower of the two S3 models for comparison, but the claim I keep hearing is the iPhone is faster than any phone. Has that been downgraded to "any US phone"? That's topical, since it's what PCMag did. (Dishonestly, too; see above.)

Pixels: You're really missing this. You quoted the part that says pixels matter for everything you can see. Scenes being rendered "off screen" don't matter. Indeed, it's something of a philosophical question as to what, exactly, is being measured. Modern GeForce cards will do sweet FA if you tell them to render off screen; I wonder what benchmark they would post?

So, yeah, no false claims. Look, I'm sorry that it upsets you that the iPhone 5 isn't full of alien magic and that it's made with the same materials, the same science, and the same limitations of all these other phones. Apple does not have a super seekrit lab where all the most bestest physicists, engineers, programmers, and chemists get whisked away to make sure Apple is the only one with "our-processor-is-farking-magic" tech. Indeed, Apple's primary strength appears to be (again) it's marketing.
 
2012-09-24 06:13:38 AM

Dokushin: Browsermark: I can't believe how much hype this is getting. Browsermark is a browser benchmark; it runs in your browser. It has much more to do with the stock browsers on iOS and Android than it does with the hardware.


How many false claims are you going to make in a row?

Sunspider, Browsermark, and Guimark 3 Bitmap all test Web browser performance. Sunspider is about JavaScript, Guimark is about interactive HTML5, and Browsermark is an overall browser benchmark. Different browsers will score differently on the same phone. We test with the default browser, because that's what most people use.

(Since you're wondering about Chrome, which is an optional download on Android phones, it gives similar Browsermark results to the default browser on the Samsung Galaxy S III.)


iPhone 5 nearly doubles the performance of Android devices in multi-threaded web browsing. Switching over to Chrome on Android didn't make a difference.

That is a complete and utter spanking.
 
2012-09-24 07:23:55 AM

BullBearMS: Dave: "Google. I'd like you to give me walking directions from point A to point B."

[dl.dropbox.com image 325x260]

Google: "I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't let you do that."


So, if I want driving directions to Martha's Vineyard, Google Maps should just give up and say that it can't, since it requires a ferry? I mean, that's not driving.
 
2012-09-24 07:32:21 AM

finnished: BullBearMS: Dave: "Google. I'd like you to give me walking directions from point A to point B."

[dl.dropbox.com image 325x260]

Google: "I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't let you do that."

So, if I want driving directions to Martha's Vineyard, Google Maps should just give up and say that it can't, since it requires a ferry? I mean, that's not driving.


What part of walking directions do you not understand?

Are you claiming it's impossible to walk from point A to point B?

dl.dropbox.com
 
2012-09-24 12:22:25 PM

BullBearMS: Dokushin: Browsermark: I can't believe how much hype this is getting. Browsermark is a browser benchmark; it runs in your browser. It has much more to do with the stock browsers on iOS and Android than it does with the hardware.

How many false claims are you going to make in a row?

Sunspider, Browsermark, and Guimark 3 Bitmap all test Web browser performance. Sunspider is about JavaScript, Guimark is about interactive HTML5, and Browsermark is an overall browser benchmark. Different browsers will score differently on the same phone. We test with the default browser, because that's what most people use.

(Since you're wondering about Chrome, which is an optional download on Android phones, it gives similar Browsermark results to the default browser on the Samsung Galaxy S III.)

iPhone 5 nearly doubles the performance of Android devices in multi-threaded web browsing. Switching over to Chrome on Android didn't make a difference.

That is a complete and utter spanking.


Or not, no real horse in this race myself... Link
 
2012-09-24 01:24:52 PM
The iPhone 4 was my first iPhone and I'm perfectly happy with it. I guess I'll upgrade at some point if my contract is up but really I'm in no rush.

Is there something wrong with me?
 
2012-09-24 01:30:12 PM

BullBearMS: finnished: BullBearMS: Dave: "Google. I'd like you to give me walking directions from point A to point B."

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Google: "I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't let you do that."

So, if I want driving directions to Martha's Vineyard, Google Maps should just give up and say that it can't, since it requires a ferry? I mean, that's not driving.

What part of walking directions do you not understand?

Are you claiming it's impossible to walk from point A to point B?

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Let's try this again. Google gives you two routes for that search. One includes a ferry; the other does not. The one with the ferry is included because it cuts out 5ish hours from the trip. The ferry is included because it's meant to allow even pedestrians to travel to islands. If however you just want to walk, then select the other trip that's only walking and doesn't include ferry travel. Clear?
 
2012-09-24 03:19:34 PM
Saw that there were a few people on here looking to sell an iphone 4 to pay for the upgrade. Just wanted to pass along that I was easily able to craigslist my iphone 4 16gb for $200. If you're just looking for the first offer you can get $160. But in less than a day my new phone was paid for.
 
2012-09-24 07:08:07 PM

sirrerun: Also, the iPhone has been around for five years now; every new version is just a minor iteration over the last now. Nice to have, but no reason to lose one's shiat over.


It's not just iPhones. I have an Android phone that's coming up to 2 years and nothing is making me feel like upgrading.

Phones are done. Jonny Ive and all those guys at Apple can keep using words like "incredible", but making a phone 2mm thinner is "new hat" on a Malibu Stacy doll. Even things like faster processors are irrelevant because most of the heavy lifting for phones is being done on servers. Give it maybe 3 years, and you'll see most people going towards owning phones outside of contracts because they'll only change them when they die, break or are at least 5 years old.
 
2012-09-25 03:16:00 AM

farkeruk: Even things like faster processors are irrelevant because most of the heavy lifting for phones is being done on servers.


They are absolutely relevant on phones.

Audio editing, Video editing. Photo editing.
 
2012-09-25 05:32:38 AM

BullBearMS:

Are you claiming it's impossible to walk from point A to point B?


Nope, but it is an overall shorter walking distance because the ferry carries you most of the way.
 
kab
2012-09-25 03:57:04 PM

balki1867: The iPhone 4 was my first iPhone and I'm perfectly happy with it. I guess I'll upgrade at some point if my contract is up but really I'm in no rush.

Is there something wrong with me?


I've had 2 iphones now, the 3 and 4. My contract ended on the 4 recently, and I simply downgraded to a monthly pre-paid card, only losing 3g access in the process. I'll simply use it in this fashion until it stops working at this point.

Were I to go back in time, I wouldn't have bothered to begin with. The smartphone is sort of neat, but the yearly cost of ownership makes it a complete waste of money for me. I don't have any pressing need for net access at every waking moment, and any of it's other capabilities are already covered by other, better products.

YMMV
 
kab
2012-09-25 03:58:22 PM

BullBearMS:
Audio editing, Video editing. Photo editing.


What are... 3 things I wouldn't bother doing on a phone, Alex.
 
2012-09-26 09:42:51 AM

BullBearMS: What part of walking directions do you not understand?


What part of "Walking directions (beta): use caution" is tripping you up?
 
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