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(Seattle Times)   Right now three states are trying to legalize marijuana, and what happens the morning after Election Day is anybody's guess   (seattletimes.com) divider line 106
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2012-09-23 04:39:43 AM
Many people start to make plans to move?
 
2012-09-23 05:55:04 AM
what happens the morning after ...

The respective state legislatures pass laws to delay, obstruct, and if possible repeal, the will of the people.
 
2012-09-23 06:46:26 AM
Look at the states that legalized gay marriage! Riots in the stre..... never mind.
 
2012-09-23 07:03:33 AM
As the article states, it ultimately doesn't matter. Federal law cannot be changed because the DEA must continue to be thrown at non-violent SUSPECTS so they don't have to be used in the actual war on drugs. Conservatives don't care about a bunch of potheads until someone tells them to, which is getting pretty under the wire with overcrowding in prisons reaching fever pitch and actual violent offenders in some states being sent back into the population.

Weed makes people too lazy to commit real crimes! C'mon, this is less than logic here!
 
2012-09-23 07:05:39 AM
Hell I'd be happy if the DEA would reschedule marijuana, I've yet to see a good reason for it to be schedule I
 
2012-09-23 07:12:45 AM

Girion47: Hell I'd be happy if the DEA would reschedule marijuana, I've yet to see a good reason for it to be schedule I


there's another rescheduling hearing set for Oct 16th. I wouldn't hold my breath though
 
2012-09-23 07:15:40 AM

Hobodeluxe: Girion47: Hell I'd be happy if the DEA would reschedule marijuana, I've yet to see a good reason for it to be schedule I

there's another rescheduling hearing set for Oct 16th. I wouldn't hold my breath though


I was told you're supposed to hold your breath after taking a hit.
 
2012-09-23 07:17:33 AM

Girion47: Hobodeluxe: Girion47: Hell I'd be happy if the DEA would reschedule marijuana, I've yet to see a good reason for it to be schedule I

there's another rescheduling hearing set for Oct 16th. I wouldn't hold my breath though

I was told you're supposed to hold your breath after taking a hit.


go for it. we'll see you on the 16th. or not. :P
 
2012-09-23 07:22:31 AM

Hobodeluxe: Girion47: Hobodeluxe: Girion47: Hell I'd be happy if the DEA would reschedule marijuana, I've yet to see a good reason for it to be schedule I

there's another rescheduling hearing set for Oct 16th. I wouldn't hold my breath though

I was told you're supposed to hold your breath after taking a hit.

go for it. we'll see you on the 16th. or not. :P


Oh I can't, working for the federal government keeps me from ever indulging since some agencies will write you off if you've ever used. But I'm all for the legalization of marijuana. I'm betting it's the only way I'll ever be able to use and keep my job.
 
2012-09-23 07:25:59 AM
If history is our teacher then we should expect Obama to sue the state of Washington.
 
2012-09-23 07:39:04 AM
I love how Mcaffrey looks so high in the picture.
 
2012-09-23 07:42:57 AM
I say 70 - 30 chance the Feds step in with an injunction. Given how they're treating medical cannabis I think they'll come down hard to..... nip this in the bud.
 
2012-09-23 07:47:28 AM
How timely an article! We've got about a month or so until harvest in the Emerald Triangle, which isn't too terribly far from me. I'm not a pot smoker, but I do have some problems with my back and hip from decades of mosh pits and skateboard parks. I'd love to get my hands on some of the "shake" (I think that's what they call it) and experiment with cannabis butter. I'm a wonderful cook, so the biggie would be what to make first once I got the butter part nailed. Hmmm....
 
2012-09-23 07:48:50 AM
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."
 
2012-09-23 07:49:51 AM

scotto: I love how Mcaffrey looks so high in the picture.


Barry McAffery is a tyrant when it comes to this subject. I suspect he's getting paid by big Pharma.
 
2012-09-23 07:51:03 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: How timely an article! We've got about a month or so until harvest in the Emerald Triangle, which isn't too terribly far from me. I'm not a pot smoker, but I do have some problems with my back and hip from decades of mosh pits and skateboard parks. I'd love to get my hands on some of the "shake" (I think that's what they call it) and experiment with cannabis butter. I'm a wonderful cook, so the biggie would be what to make first once I got the butter part nailed. Hmmm....


brownies :)
 
2012-09-23 07:53:28 AM

Fail in Human Form: I say 70 - 30 chance the Feds step in with an injunction. Given how they're treating medical cannabis I think they'll come down hard to..... nip this in the bud.


yeah they will. but we have to keep fighting. inch by inch we will eventually win this battle of attrition.
 
2012-09-23 07:53:34 AM
Marijuana addiction is a chronic problem.
 
2012-09-23 07:55:43 AM
Fail in Human Form I say 70 - 30 chance the Feds step in with an injunction. Given how they're treating medical cannabis I think they'll come down hard to..... nip this in the bud.

It's going to be more difficult for states to tax and regulate. Were they to simply decriminalize it, it would merely become the feds responsibility to enforce it (I'm not sure you can get a court order to force the state to pass a law or to require the state use resources to enforce something that isn't a law). In states that want to become the distributor of it, they're ignoring federal law, which is no better than Arizona and their border shenanigans. Besides, from what I understand, states that only sell liquor at state-owned shops have their own issues. Tax it? You bet. Be the sole distributor for the state? May be time to rethink that.
 
2012-09-23 07:57:20 AM
 
2012-09-23 08:00:30 AM
What would happen?

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2012-09-23 08:01:54 AM

Sgygus: what happens the morning after ...

The respective state legislatures pass laws to delay, obstruct, and if possible repeal, the will of the people.


Where's the "Sad But True" button?

Seriously, the "smaller gubbmint" assholes will never get this.
 
2012-09-23 08:02:35 AM
but what about employers that demand that employees pass random drug testss?

marijuana makes u stupid so u can't fly a plane correctly. and makes you see demons
 
2012-09-23 08:07:17 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: so the biggie would be what to make first once I got the butter part nailed. Hmmm....


Making butter is fairly easy, after straining through cheesecloth, I would put the melted butter/water into the freezer. Once frozen, it is a you break off the butter from the ice, and it is nicely seperated and most of the particulate matter that the cheesecloth didnt catch, is caught with this method.

I have also made infused olive oil for cooking. Same principle as making butter.
 
2012-09-23 08:08:42 AM

Madduck: Real Women Drink Akvavit: so the biggie would be what to make first once I got the butter part nailed. Hmmm....

Making butter is fairly easy, after straining through cheesecloth, I would put the melted butter/water into the freezer. Once frozen, it is a you break off the butter from the ice, and it is nicely seperated and most of the particulate matter that the cheesecloth didnt catch, is caught with this method.

I have also made infused olive oil for cooking. Same principle as making butter.


earth to stoopid person: nobody KNOWS WHAT CHEESE CLOTH IS
 
2012-09-23 08:10:22 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: but what about employers that demand that employees pass random drug testss?


nothing. they could still fire you or not hire you for testing hot.
but they would perhaps find themselves in legal battles as their tests currently do not test for being under the influence of mj only if there's traces of it in the system. and those traces can exist for weeks after use.
I see them having to legally prove influence if there's no law breaking going on.
right now they have the cover of "well this person is a criminal" therefore we're safe getting rid of/not hiring them.

so I think they'd be forced to change their tests.
 
2012-09-23 08:10:54 AM
I have absolutely no problem with legalizing weed. I used to puff bales of it back in the day. It's a harmless recreational drug. My deal is, being a recovering alcoholic, that this stuff IS legal, and should be under more scrutiny. The fact that the gubment makes millions off of taxes on it, and BILLIONS off of incarcerating casual weed smokers, means that it just plain won't happen. But, people that drive while stoned still get into wrecks; much less than drunk drivers, but it still happens.

I have no issue with what people do in the privacy of their own homes. My wife smokes weed, to my detriment, since I'm in recovery and have no support from her whatsoever. I told her not to bring it in the house, and she does anyway, and goes out to smoke as well. She's driving while impaired, and I have a serious problem with that, being as I have 2 DUI's under my belt. I had to get legal action to stop her from driving with the kids while she was stoned, since "our kids are friends with their kids". I called bullshiat, and got a lawyer. Bottom line is, if you want to get high, by all means, have at it. But if you're in a relationship with someone in recovery and still want to get high, you are doing SERIOUS damage.

/end rant
 
2012-09-23 08:11:18 AM
Maybe we start obeying the 9th and 10th Amendments and leave to the States all authority not granted to the feds? You know, like how Alcohol required an Amendment to prohibit at the federal level?

Wait, that's just crazy talk. Obey the Constitution? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHhHhCOUGHCOUGHWHEEEEZE
 
2012-09-23 08:16:17 AM

qsblues: I have absolutely no problem with legalizing weed. I used to puff bales of it back in the day. It's a harmless recreational drug. My deal is, being a recovering alcoholic, that this stuff IS legal, and should be under more scrutiny. The fact that the gubment makes millions off of taxes on it, and BILLIONS off of incarcerating casual weed smokers, means that it just plain won't happen. But, people that drive while stoned still get into wrecks; much less than drunk drivers, but it still happens.

I have no issue with what people do in the privacy of their own homes. My wife smokes weed, to my detriment, since I'm in recovery and have no support from her whatsoever. I told her not to bring it in the house, and she does anyway, and goes out to smoke as well. She's driving while impaired, and I have a serious problem with that, being as I have 2 DUI's under my belt. I had to get legal action to stop her from driving with the kids while she was stoned, since "our kids are friends with their kids". I called bullshiat, and got a lawyer. Bottom line is, if you want to get high, by all means, have at it. But if you're in a relationship with someone in recovery and still want to get high, you are doing SERIOUS damage.

/end rant


so weed makes u drink alcohol?
 
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2012-09-23 08:18:26 AM
when our gov't gets so bad off for tax revenue they will legalize it and tax the jesus out of it. a joint will cost $10
 
2012-09-23 08:20:16 AM

tomWright: Maybe we start obeying the 9th and 10th Amendments and leave to the States all authority not granted to the feds? You know, like how Alcohol required an Amendment to prohibit at the federal level?

Wait, that's just crazy talk. Obey the Constitution? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHhHhCOUGHCOUGHWHEEEEZE


The problem is, the 9th and 10th Amendments have become excuses as to why we can't have nice things and invest in infrastructure and the social safety net.
 
2012-09-23 08:21:02 AM

qsblues: I have absolutely no problem with legalizing weed. I used to puff bales of it back in the day. It's a harmless recreational drug. My deal is, being a recovering alcoholic, that this stuff IS legal, and should be under more scrutiny. The fact that the gubment makes millions off of taxes on it, and BILLIONS off of incarcerating casual weed smokers, means that it just plain won't happen. But, people that drive while stoned still get into wrecks; much less than drunk drivers, but it still happens.

I have no issue with what people do in the privacy of their own homes. My wife smokes weed, to my detriment, since I'm in recovery and have no support from her whatsoever. I told her not to bring it in the house, and she does anyway, and goes out to smoke as well. She's driving while impaired, and I have a serious problem with that, being as I have 2 DUI's under my belt. I had to get legal action to stop her from driving with the kids while she was stoned, since "our kids are friends with their kids". I called bullshiat, and got a lawyer. Bottom line is, if you want to get high, by all means, have at it. But if you're in a relationship with someone in recovery and still want to get high, you are doing SERIOUS damage.

/end rant


Walk away, man, FAST, she is going to fark you up, and laugh while she's doing it. And for Jebus' sake don't talk to her of touch her. The local DA will ram it up high and break it off short, and as someone with a Y chromosome, you can't do shiat.

Later you can get the kids from her by proving her a stoner, if she doesn't kill them first while DUI.

(Life is hard, and the kids come first, but you can't help them if she puts you in jail.)

 
2012-09-23 08:22:24 AM

Madduck: Real Women Drink Akvavit: so the biggie would be what to make first once I got the butter part nailed. Hmmm....

Making butter is fairly easy, after straining through cheesecloth, I would put the melted butter/water into the freezer. Once frozen, it is a you break off the butter from the ice, and it is nicely seperated and most of the particulate matter that the cheesecloth didnt catch, is caught with this method.

I have also made infused olive oil for cooking. Same principle as making butter.


I had not considered the ice part, but it's a good tip. Thanks!

Hobodeluxe:

brownies :)


I'm more into salty foods than sweets or the two combined, so I was thinking cheddar and red pepper flake scones. That's some nomage right there. I will probably do the olive oil infused suggested above and then one of my lovely homemade pizzas. Problem would be keeping my adult son out of it. lol!
 
2012-09-23 08:25:35 AM
Washington Huskies become a football powerhouse.
 
2012-09-23 08:25:45 AM

Sgygus: what happens the morning after ...

The respective state legislatures pass laws to delay, obstruct, and if possible repeal, the will of the people.


The Feds led by OBAMA, will come down on the state like the Wrath of God. Check what happened when Cali passed medical possession. The Guv doesn't like states giving out freedom, if the Guv doesn't profit from it.
 
2012-09-23 08:28:06 AM

daxxenos: qsblues: I have absolutely no problem with legalizing weed. I used to puff bales of it back in the day. It's a harmless recreational drug. My deal is, being a recovering alcoholic, that this stuff IS legal, and should be under more scrutiny. The fact that the gubment makes millions off of taxes on it, and BILLIONS off of incarcerating casual weed smokers, means that it just plain won't happen. But, people that drive while stoned still get into wrecks; much less than drunk drivers, but it still happens.

I have no issue with what people do in the privacy of their own homes. My wife smokes weed, to my detriment, since I'm in recovery and have no support from her whatsoever. I told her not to bring it in the house, and she does anyway, and goes out to smoke as well. She's driving while impaired, and I have a serious problem with that, being as I have 2 DUI's under my belt. I had to get legal action to stop her from driving with the kids while she was stoned, since "our kids are friends with their kids". I called bullshiat, and got a lawyer. Bottom line is, if you want to get high, by all means, have at it. But if you're in a relationship with someone in recovery and still want to get high, you are doing SERIOUS damage.

/end rant

Walk away, man, FAST, she is going to fark you up, and laugh while she's doing it. And for Jebus' sake don't talk to her of touch her. The local DA will ram it up high and break it off short, and as someone with a Y chromosome, you can't do shiat.Later you can get the kids from her by proving her a stoner, if she doesn't kill them first while DUI. (Life is hard, and the kids come first, but you can't help them if she puts you in jail.)


My DUI's were over 10 years ago, and I've been to rehab, so no worries there. Celebrated 2 years sober a few months back. Problem is, I'm the primary provider for the house. I don't hold any ill will towards her, but it does cause serious problems in our relationship. Just a word of precaution; nothing wrong with getting high, but be well aware of how it affects other people, that's all.

I'm not going to leave her or throw her out over weed, since I support legalizing it. It's ALCOHOL I have a problem with, since I've suffered the worst that it has to offer, besides cirrhoses and death. THAT stuff KILLS people, and is far worse than cigarettes, IMHO.

When someone in a relationship is in recovery, then you're BOTH in recovery.

/end 2nd rant
 
2012-09-23 08:28:32 AM
 
2012-09-23 08:33:04 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Madduck: Real Women Drink Akvavit: so the biggie would be what to make first once I got the butter part nailed. Hmmm....

Making butter is fairly easy, after straining through cheesecloth, I would put the melted butter/water into the freezer. Once frozen, it is a you break off the butter from the ice, and it is nicely seperated and most of the particulate matter that the cheesecloth didnt catch, is caught with this method.

I have also made infused olive oil for cooking. Same principle as making butter.

I had not considered the ice part, but it's a good tip. Thanks!

Hobodeluxe:

brownies :)

I'm more into salty foods than sweets or the two combined, so I was thinking cheddar and red pepper flake scones. That's some nomage right there. I will probably do the olive oil infused suggested above and then one of my lovely homemade pizzas. Problem would be keeping my adult son out of it. lol!


you have to be careful with temp though. too high and you'll destroy the THC. there's all sorts of youtubes out there with info.
 
2012-09-23 08:34:36 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: I'm voting for real change.


me too but only because I'm in a deep red state and it's my way of making a statement.
if I were in a battleground state I'd have to vote Obama. That's who I sent money to.
 
2012-09-23 08:38:19 AM

Hobodeluxe: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Madduck: Real Women Drink Akvavit: so the biggie would be what to make first once I got the butter part nailed. Hmmm....

Making butter is fairly easy, after straining through cheesecloth, I would put the melted butter/water into the freezer. Once frozen, it is a you break off the butter from the ice, and it is nicely seperated and most of the particulate matter that the cheesecloth didnt catch, is caught with this method.

I have also made infused olive oil for cooking. Same principle as making butter.

I had not considered the ice part, but it's a good tip. Thanks!

Hobodeluxe:

brownies :)

I'm more into salty foods than sweets or the two combined, so I was thinking cheddar and red pepper flake scones. That's some nomage right there. I will probably do the olive oil infused suggested above and then one of my lovely homemade pizzas. Problem would be keeping my adult son out of it. lol!

you have to be careful with temp though. too high and you'll destroy the THC. there's all sorts of youtubes out there with info.


at least u won't destroy the sausage

that's the most important part
 
2012-09-23 08:46:51 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: How timely an article! We've got about a month or so until harvest in the Emerald Triangle, which isn't too terribly far from me. I'm not a pot smoker, but I do have some problems with my back and hip from decades of mosh pits and skateboard parks. I'd love to get my hands on some of the "shake" (I think that's what they call it) and experiment with cannabis butter. I'm a wonderful cook, so the biggie would be what to make first once I got the butter part nailed. Hmmm....


Ahhh dude, no.
"Shake" is the cruddy little bits left at the bottom of the bag. It's weed crumbs. Usually stems and seeds with little THC content. Although if you're good at rolling, you can make it useful.
I thought about looking for trimwork/gave the idea some consideration once but I didn't have a card, prefer not getting into shady biz, and I wasn't going to hitch up and down the 101 endlessly looking for an in, especially after it got so blown up.
 
2012-09-23 08:47:04 AM

Hobodeluxe: I were in a battleground state I'd have to vote Obama. That's who I sent money to.


I don't give money to politicians. Especially ones that say they are going to do something for me.
 
2012-09-23 08:52:11 AM

m2313: Real Women Drink Akvavit: How timely an article! We've got about a month or so until harvest in the Emerald Triangle, which isn't too terribly far from me. I'm not a pot smoker, but I do have some problems with my back and hip from decades of mosh pits and skateboard parks. I'd love to get my hands on some of the "shake" (I think that's what they call it) and experiment with cannabis butter. I'm a wonderful cook, so the biggie would be what to make first once I got the butter part nailed. Hmmm....

Ahhh dude, no.
"Shake" is the cruddy little bits left at the bottom of the bag. It's weed crumbs. Usually stems and seeds with little THC content. Although if you're good at rolling, you can make it useful.
I thought about looking for trimwork/gave the idea some consideration once but I didn't have a card, prefer not getting into shady biz, and I wasn't going to hitch up and down the 101 endlessly looking for an in, especially after it got so blown up.


s3.amazonaws.com
 
2012-09-23 08:58:53 AM

UNC_Samurai: tomWright: Maybe we start obeying the 9th and 10th Amendments and leave to the States all authority not granted to the feds? You know, like how Alcohol required an Amendment to prohibit at the federal level?

Wait, that's just crazy talk. Obey the Constitution? BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHhHhCOUGHCOUGHWHEEEEZE

The problem is, the 9th and 10th Amendments have become excuses as to why we can't have nice things and invest in infrastructure and the social safety net.


1) In the 20th/21st centuries, when have the 9th or 10th Amercements had any use other than toilet paper?
2) Are you saying that funding infrastructure and a social safety net can only be accomplished at the federal level?
 
2012-09-23 09:01:08 AM
www.simpsoncrazy.com
 
2012-09-23 09:02:27 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: but what about employers that demand that employees pass random drug testss?

marijuana makes u stupid so u can't fly a plane correctly. and makes you see demons


Apparently religion will do that too.
 
2012-09-23 09:03:03 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: m2313: Real Women Drink Akvavit: How timely an article! We've got about a month or so until harvest in the Emerald Triangle, which isn't too terribly far from me. I'm not a pot smoker, but I do have some problems with my back and hip from decades of mosh pits and skateboard parks. I'd love to get my hands on some of the "shake" (I think that's what they call it) and experiment with cannabis butter. I'm a wonderful cook, so the biggie would be what to make first once I got the butter part nailed. Hmmm....

Ahhh dude, no.
"Shake" is the cruddy little bits left at the bottom of the bag. It's weed crumbs. Usually stems and seeds with little THC content. Although if you're good at rolling, you can make it useful.
I thought about looking for trimwork/gave the idea some consideration once but I didn't have a card, prefer not getting into shady biz, and I wasn't going to hitch up and down the 101 endlessly looking for an in, especially after it got so blown up.

[s3.amazonaws.com image 480x360]


Why is there a phone photoshopped into the picture?
 
2012-09-23 09:07:24 AM

demonwolf04: Fail in Human Form I say 70 - 30 chance the Feds step in with an injunction. Given how they're treating medical cannabis I think they'll come down hard to..... nip this in the bud.

It's going to be more difficult for states to tax and regulate. Were they to simply decriminalize it, it would merely become the feds responsibility to enforce it (I'm not sure you can get a court order to force the state to pass a law or to require the state use resources to enforce something that isn't a law). In states that want to become the distributor of it, they're ignoring federal law, which is no better than Arizona and their border shenanigans. Besides, from what I understand, states that only sell liquor at state-owned shops have their own issues. Tax it? You bet. Be the sole distributor for the state? May be time to rethink that.


This is one thing I have been wondering about with the feds vs states. What will happen if all 50 states legalize it yet it is still illegal at the federal level? Other than us becoming a laughing stock to the rest of the world, would the federal law have to disappear? I would hope at that point congress critters would eventually view it as politically safe to legalize it on the federal level, but who knows with those idiots.
 
2012-09-23 09:07:41 AM

m2313: Jon iz teh kewl: m2313: Real Women Drink Akvavit: How timely an article! We've got about a month or so until harvest in the Emerald Triangle, which isn't too terribly far from me. I'm not a pot smoker, but I do have some problems with my back and hip from decades of mosh pits and skateboard parks. I'd love to get my hands on some of the "shake" (I think that's what they call it) and experiment with cannabis butter. I'm a wonderful cook, so the biggie would be what to make first once I got the butter part nailed. Hmmm....

Ahhh dude, no.
"Shake" is the cruddy little bits left at the bottom of the bag. It's weed crumbs. Usually stems and seeds with little THC content. Although if you're good at rolling, you can make it useful.
I thought about looking for trimwork/gave the idea some consideration once but I didn't have a card, prefer not getting into shady biz, and I wasn't going to hitch up and down the 101 endlessly looking for an in, especially after it got so blown up.

[s3.amazonaws.com image 480x360]

Why is there a phone photoshopped into the picture?


sharetv.org
 
2012-09-23 09:10:44 AM
Well I know that out in Colorado they're having a vote to "free the weed" man. I know this because my brother in law lives out there and I'm pretty sure he is into the lifestyle just judging by his clothing and musical preferences. My wife and I went out to Denver over the Summer and we couldn't believe the things we saw regarding marijuana. There are literally stores everywhere selling it. We even saw a girl in a bikini with marijuana leaves for the top and she was holding a sign pointing to a store selling it. We still laugh calling it the "mile high city". Weird people out there. But we don't need your legalized drugs messing up our kids.
 
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