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(Open Secrets)   After spending $1.3 million on his advisors, Gary Johnson spends a whopping $900 on media buys. Or just under 0.05% of his total campaign budget   (opensecrets.org) divider line 96
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2012-09-23 08:12:00 AM  
No point in media buys unless you have huge whopping bucketloads of cash. $1.3m is an okay fundraising afternoon by Obamney standards.
 
2012-09-23 08:19:47 AM  
...?
 
2012-09-23 10:00:20 AM  
What does $900 even get you in media buys? That might be like one commercial at 4am in between infomercials.
 
2012-09-23 10:07:49 AM  

dletter: What does $900 even get you in media buys? That might be like one commercial at 4am in between infomercials.


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2012-09-23 10:13:36 AM  
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ThatGuyFromTheInternet: dletter: What does $900 even get you in media buys? That might be like one commercial at 4am in between infomercials.

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Damnit!

*shakes tiny fist*
 
2012-09-23 10:16:32 AM  
Well at least his buddies got paid.
 
2012-09-23 10:25:19 AM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: dletter: What does $900 even get you in media buys? That might be like one commercial at 4am in between infomercials.

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+1.
 
2012-09-23 10:26:11 AM  
Ah yes, so he's going the traditional Ron Paul route, and conning libertarian rubes out of their bootstrap-earned cash. Good one, Gary.
 
2012-09-23 10:32:50 AM  

MacEnvy: Ah yes, so he's going the traditional Ron Paul route, and conning libertarian rubes out of their bootstrap-earned cash. Good one, Gary.


Both sides are bad, so vote for the Republican that got flattened in the primary.
 
2012-09-23 10:34:39 AM  
Ah yes... Fiscal Responsibility.
 
2012-09-23 10:44:57 AM  
I don't understand why he (and Ron Paul before him) don't go the Ross Perot route and buy themselves an infomercial instead of blimps and sh*t.
 
2012-09-23 10:45:08 AM  
I see a bright future for Gary Johnson. After Ron Paul dies, he can be the constant loser who has a rabid fan base yet will never be without cash as long as there's delusional young people out there constantly pissed about paying taxes.
 
2012-09-23 10:56:02 AM  

Guntram Shatterhand: I see a bright future for Gary Johnson. After Ron Paul dies, he can be the constant loser who has a rabid fan base yet will never be without cash as long as there's delusional young people out there constantly pissed about paying taxes.


He also has to pay lipservice about legalizing weed.
 
2012-09-23 10:57:43 AM  
Supporters: You're our libertarian champion, Gary! Fight for us!

Johnson: Meh, that sounds like hard work. How little money can I get away with spending?
 
2012-09-23 11:14:20 AM  
$1.3 million on "advisors"? Is that what they're calling dealers these days?
 
2012-09-23 11:14:54 AM  

MacEnvy: Ah yes, so he's going the traditional Ron Paul route, and conning libertarian rubes out of their bootstrap-earned cash. Good one, Gary.


Yep, and handing it over to cronies under the guise of "advisors".

Business as usual.
 
2012-09-23 11:15:37 AM  
Bed sheets, stencils, and spray paint can't be that expensive.
 
2012-09-23 11:16:35 AM  

Great_Milenko: Yep, and handing it over to cronies family members under the guise of "advisors".


Fixed it
 
2012-09-23 11:18:04 AM  
His ads were all over the 2+2 poker website for a while, promising to legalize online poker. That might have set him back a couple of hundo.
 
2012-09-23 11:18:17 AM  
All you self-righteous Johnson supporters should have just cut checks to his immediate family and cut out the middle-man. You still can if you want - there doesn't even need to be an election going on.
 
2012-09-23 11:19:23 AM  

SnarfVader: Newspa...

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: dletter: What does $900 even get you in media buys? That might be like one commercial at 4am in between infomercials.

Newspaper personals:

Ex-Gov for POTUS
Fmr Gvnr of SW state
seeks 4 yrs in WH
libertarian,3rd party
email for more info

Damnit!

*shakes tiny fist*


They'd get more mileage by spamming CL rants and raves pages.
 
2012-09-23 11:19:32 AM  
So everybody around him got paid, regardless of his chances of winning any election.
He's a river to his people, like nearly all politicians.
That's how it works in adult world.
 
2012-09-23 11:19:34 AM  

stoli n coke: Guntram Shatterhand: I see a bright future for Gary Johnson. After Ron Paul dies, he can be the constant loser who has a rabid fan base yet will never be without cash as long as there's delusional young people out there constantly pissed about paying taxes.

He also has to pay lipservice about legalizing weed.


One thing fark has taught me, people don't care if you are going to make official goverment religions, ban sexuals acts you don't like, ban abortions if you are pro-weed you be called a civil libertarian and the pot heads will vote for you.
 
2012-09-23 11:20:47 AM  
Another Campaign where consultants loot the Libertarian Party

....UNPOSSIBLE

This is part of why I am not a Libertarian Party member anymore
 
2012-09-23 11:28:17 AM  

Corvus: pot heads will vote for you.


Well, this is the problem here... they'll say they're going to vote for you.
 
2012-09-23 11:29:38 AM  

dletter: What does $900 even get you in media buys? That might be like one commercial at 4am in between infomercials.


WANTED: Someone to go back in time with me....
 
2012-09-23 11:32:02 AM  
So wot's this?

GJ managed to liberate 1.3 million in cash from his supporters and then funneled it into the pockets of his advisers (read: friends, family, long time cronies) all except for 900 bucks spent presumably on a guy in a chicken suit handing out pro Johnson pamphlets for a couple of hours in front of a 7-11?

Well, that's politics now, innit? 

/American Libertarianism is a very odd duck.
 
2012-09-23 11:33:57 AM  
He's the new Ross Perot. Although he probably won't hurt either Romney or Obama too much. He'll get a fair share of votes from pro-legalization liberals or Ron Paul conservatives.
 
2012-09-23 11:36:57 AM  

quatchi: GJ managed to liberate 1.3 million in cash from his supporters and then funneled it into the pockets of his advisers (read: friends, family, long time cronies) all except for 900 bucks spent presumably on a guy in a chicken suit handing out pro Johnson pamphlets for a couple of hours in front of a 7-11?.


The guy in the chicken suit is probably Johnson himself.
 
2012-09-23 11:48:51 AM  

Corvus: stoli n coke: Guntram Shatterhand: I see a bright future for Gary Johnson. After Ron Paul dies, he can be the constant loser who has a rabid fan base yet will never be without cash as long as there's delusional young people out there constantly pissed about paying taxes.

He also has to pay lipservice about legalizing weed.

One thing fark has taught me, people don't care if you are going to make official goverment religions, ban sexuals acts you don't like, ban abortions if you are pro-weed you be called a civil libertarian and the pot heads will vote for you.


No we won't.
 
2012-09-23 11:48:51 AM  
I'm still voting for him. Just because he can't raise much cash in our oligarchic system doesn't mean he's not still a better choice than either Obama or Romney. Because he is.
 
2012-09-23 11:50:05 AM  
To be fair, Gary Johnson seems a little more sane than Ron "Let's go back to the Gold Standard" Paul.
 
2012-09-23 11:52:03 AM  
Yep, he's totally a serious candidate guys!
 
2012-09-23 11:53:02 AM  

mongbiohazard: I'm still voting for him. Just because he can't raise much cash in our oligarchic system doesn't mean he's not still a better choice than either Obama or Romney. Because he is.


Point

You.
 
2012-09-23 11:55:20 AM  
Libertarianism is nothing more than greed hidden in the rhetoric of individual liberty and small government.

They take "fark you, I got mine" to heart. It might as well be their only platform
 
2012-09-23 11:56:09 AM  

badhatharry: He's the new Ross Perot.


Ross Perot actually had a campaign plan and blitzed television with infomercials.
 
2012-09-23 11:56:23 AM  

mongbiohazard: I'm still voting for him. Just because he can't raise much cash in our oligarchic system doesn't mean he's not still a better choice than either Obama or Romney. Because he is.


...

After he dumps over a million into advisers and does next to nothing to advertise during this election? Sounds like this guy not only would make an effective US President but also the perfect representative for the libertarian cause. Great to see he's got a "stellar" understanding of how the real world works and just isn't trying to hook his buddies up, which totally isn't what libertarianism totally isn't about or would fall into if tried IRL.

/Not crazy about Obama but I realize he's not Superman or even Batman, and your emperor has no clothes
 
2012-09-23 11:58:20 AM  

stoli n coke: Guntram Shatterhand: I see a bright future for Gary Johnson. After Ron Paul dies, he can be the constant loser who has a rabid fan base yet will never be without cash as long as there's delusional young people out there constantly pissed about paying taxes.

He also has to pay lipservice about legalizing weed.


And does jack sh#t about it, just like RP

(I know you implied that with lip service, but the Aspergery people who support either candidate wouldn't pick up on that)
 
2012-09-23 11:58:53 AM  
Must be fun spending other peoples money on things you dont need.
 
2012-09-23 12:02:17 PM  

sno man: Well at least his buddies got paid.


Pretty much this. Maybe ask for a 10% kickback for good measure.
 
2012-09-23 12:06:26 PM  

Spanky_McFarksalot: Libertarianism is nothing more than greed hidden in the rhetoric of individual liberty and small government.

They take "fark you, I got mine" to heart. It might as well be their only platform


Libertarians are all for letting the colossus of corporate enterprise steam-roll over everyone's rights, trusting the "free-market" to set it all straight (nevermind the fact that this has never actually happened in all of the world's history).

Unless it's the decision of corporate enterprise to not let Gary Johnson into the debates. Then he goes crying to the big bad government to give him what he thinks is fair. We're not allowed to do that under a Johnson administration, of course, because it's not the role of government to meddle in the business affairs of the corporations. But his case is special.
 
2012-09-23 12:09:54 PM  

Spanky_McFarksalot: Libertarianism is nothing more than greed hidden in the rhetoric of individual liberty and small government.

They take "fark you, I got mine" to heart. It might as well be their only platform


One of the complaints about poor people voting Republican is that they are stupidly voting against their own self interest.To be consistent, shouldn't the complaint against Libertarians be that they are ignorant of where their self interest really lies, rather than they are greedy for pursuing it?
 
2012-09-23 12:13:36 PM  
His expenditures look pretty much the same as the other third-party candidates listed on the site, you know, if you bother to look at the data.
 
2012-09-23 12:26:56 PM  
All the stupid money pissed away in all these campaigns. Icing on the idiotic cake of misery and disgrace.
 
2012-09-23 12:37:44 PM  
What are the consultants/advisers actually doing? He could probably buy a 30 minute infomercial, Perot-style with the $1.3 million -- if not on a regular network then certainly some of the more-watched cable networks.

At the least you're getting your message out there to voters.
 
2012-09-23 12:40:45 PM  
Awesome play. Spend less money on media than the average ambulance chaser advertising during Jerry Springer reruns and then cry about the two-party system when when the media (and, by extension, the public) don't take notice of you.

It's the Libertarian way!
 
2012-09-23 12:50:25 PM  

stpickrell: What are the consultants/advisers actually doing?


Gettin' paaaaaaaaaaid. I wish I had the complete lack of morals necessary to run a Libertarian campaign. I could use the money. And the pool of easy marks is just going to grow as more and more republicans get fed up with their goofy Christofacist party and look for something else to be bitterly obsessed with.
 
2012-09-23 01:21:30 PM  
I was seriously considering voting for Gary Johnson, but this has killed my enthusiasm.

Jill Stein it is.
 
2012-09-23 01:21:35 PM  
You guys do realize that people dont work for free, right?

If you want to run a successful campaign then you gotta attract top talent

Besides, its not like he is pulling a Ron Paul taking his donor money and using to fund a book he wrote
 
2012-09-23 01:23:03 PM  

my lip balm addiction: Corvus: stoli n coke: Guntram Shatterhand: I see a bright future for Gary Johnson. After Ron Paul dies, he can be the constant loser who has a rabid fan base yet will never be without cash as long as there's delusional young people out there constantly pissed about paying taxes.

He also has to pay lipservice about legalizing weed.

One thing fark has taught me, people don't care if you are going to make official goverment religions, ban sexuals acts you don't like, ban abortions if you are pro-weed you be called a civil libertarian and the pot heads will vote for you.

No we won't.


They do for Ron Paul
 
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