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(Kitsap Sun)   Employees at a day care center call the cops after they spot marijuana growing in a nearby yard. Which is a big relief because you never know when those pot plants could have gotten loose and gobbled up all the kiddos   (kitsapsun.com) divider line 31
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2012-09-23 08:07:56 AM
3 votes:

Ker_Thwap: RockofAges: You're a fearmongering retard. I hope you never influence public policy in any way, shape, or form in your entire life, and that you never disseminate your opinions to an impressionable mind.

My, what a pleasure to see such a thoughtful and coherent response. In point of fact however, I am not a fearmongering retard. I'm a somewhat past middle aged man who has had some experience with pot myself, who has seen first hand the damage that recreational drugs has done to friends, family and neighbors. I've seen some stoners who handle it responsibly, and also seen the ones who are brutal criminals to support their habits. Maybe when you get out of high school and see a bit more of the world, you'll realize that it's wrong to demonize everyone who doesn't share your narrow minded opinions. But.. I have little hope in your case.


Yeah, but the issue is not whether pot is a "good thing" - the issue is whether it is in society's interest to engage in prohibition of all things that are not deemed "good things". The argument that society needs to protect adults from all "bad things" is especially peculiar in that it often emanates from those who profess to believe in "small government" and "low taxes". You can't have a small, cheap government that child-proofs the whole world.
But I certainly don't think your being wrong about this makes you a "demon".
Perhaps you could lighten up, Francis.
You might find yoyrself getting over it.
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2012-09-23 02:50:48 PM
2 votes:
25K for bail? For three freaking pot plants? WTF? This boggles my mind. I am neither for or against pot as a substance to be consumed by people. But the government has no right to limit or penalize what people do on their own property, while on their own time. I don't care if people grow and manufacture their own cocaine, if there is not a monetary transaction...... Then there are no tax implications..... therefore there is no need for a government to get involved.

I know there is crime associated with addicts. I know addiction hurts people and their families. If a coke addict is a coke addict and he has a good job but you put him in jail simply for possessing coke and his family goes on welfare while he is in jail who the fu*c does that help? It costs taxpayers money for the jail time and for the extended welfare and family benefits. Fighting the war on drugs is not productive in the way they are doing it now. It hurts everybody involved. Not just the user but the family and the taxpayer.

The government needs to get real and get out of this war. Follow the example of Portugal. They stopped the war and concentrated on treatment with great success. At least from a financial point of view. I don't use drugs but if my neighbour did I would not want him in jail for simply using drugs. If he stole my car to support it then that would be a different story. But for smoking weed in his own house? WTF kind of society do we live in when what people do in their own house, all by themselves, ,not involving the harm of others, is something that can be controlled and penalized by the government?

If I made my own crystal meth and used it at home and went to work and paid my taxes what right would the government have to tell me I have to be put in jail? I have not hurt anyone. I have just been a private citizen that has a hobby. Hurts no one but me.
2012-09-23 12:03:40 PM
2 votes:
The fact that Pot is illegal leads to this kind of crap:
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Which means that if I ran a daycare next to a house growing pot, I'd be thinking about calling it in. BUT, didn't read the full article, did it say how much pot? Was it a freaking farm, or just a couple plants? That makes a difference.
2012-09-23 09:26:59 AM
2 votes:

James F. Campbell: Ker_Thwap
Account created: 2012-05-24 10:18:08

Next time I'll look first before I reply -- and continue my policy of automatically ignoring any accounts from 2012 that say stupid shiat.


I've never understood this criticism. How old is old enough? I've been jabbed with it before. I lurked for about 5 years before signing up. I got tired of that name after about a year and then dropped it for another. And really, it's not like you'll ever know who he is anyway. He's a name on a screen just like the rest of us.
2012-09-23 08:30:51 AM
2 votes:
Oh, hey guys.
While you were debating on whether plants should be allowed to grow, elsewhere in the world there were murders, rapes, robberies, home invasions, hostage crises, politicians stealing our money, rapes, some guy walking naked through central park, shady wars over increasing energy demands, riots about cartoons, and the planet generally falling apart around us.

...But please don't let that distract you from the drug war which has cost thousands of lives this year alone while destroyed millions of citizens reputations and bilking the government for billions of dollars over a bunch of common weeds.
Now get back to throwing that old lady in the slammer for watering plants, cuz you damn well know she deserves it.
2012-09-23 08:19:05 AM
2 votes:

Ker_Thwap: Well, I've always said it's pointless to argue with stoners. So, rather than continue to be insulted by rude children, I'll bow out of this thread. Claim your hollow victory.


Yes, anyone who thinks it's ridiculous to arrest someone and set their bond at 25k for three plants must be a stoner. That's the only explanation. And anyone who points out that you're somewhat of a moron must also be a stoner. I picture you as a grumpy old man, blaming junk mail and the electronics in you car you can't understand on stoners. Ker Thwap must be the sound the few thoughts bouncing around in your noggin make. I will celebrate this hollow victory with waffles and bacon.
2012-09-23 08:00:59 AM
2 votes:

Ker_Thwap: RockofAges: You're a fearmongering retard. I hope you never influence public policy in any way, shape, or form in your entire life, and that you never disseminate your opinions to an impressionable mind.

My, what a pleasure to see such a thoughtful and coherent response. In point of fact however, I am not a fearmongering retard. I'm a somewhat past middle aged man who has had some experience with pot myself, who has seen first hand the damage that recreational drugs has done to friends, family and neighbors. I've seen some stoners who handle it responsibly, and also seen the ones who are brutal criminals to support their habits. Maybe when you get out of high school and see a bit more of the world, you'll realize that it's wrong to demonize everyone who doesn't share your narrow minded opinions. But.. I have little hope in your case.


Hopefully you would have grown up by now, but it seems you are still thinking like a child.
2012-09-23 07:57:45 AM
2 votes:

RockofAges: You're a fearmongering retard. I hope you never influence public policy in any way, shape, or form in your entire life, and that you never disseminate your opinions to an impressionable mind.


My, what a pleasure to see such a thoughtful and coherent response. In point of fact however, I am not a fearmongering retard. I'm a somewhat past middle aged man who has had some experience with pot myself, who has seen first hand the damage that recreational drugs has done to friends, family and neighbors. I've seen some stoners who handle it responsibly, and also seen the ones who are brutal criminals to support their habits. Maybe when you get out of high school and see a bit more of the world, you'll realize that it's wrong to demonize everyone who doesn't share your narrow minded opinions. But.. I have little hope in your case.
2012-09-23 07:53:15 AM
2 votes:

Ker_Thwap: Not all people who drink are happy go lucky friendly people who drink responsibly safely in the comfort of their living room. Let's not forget the one's driving under the influence, and carrying guns.


Now see if it makes as much sense to you, bootlicker.
2012-09-23 07:45:39 AM
2 votes:
Drug laws in this country are farking insane.
2012-09-23 07:44:24 AM
2 votes:
I totally believe the homeowner. What possible motive could she have for lying to the police?

Not all stoners are happy go lucky friendly people who smoke responsibly safely in the comfort of their living room. Let's not forget the one's driving under the influence, and carrying guns to protect their shady cash transactions. Good for the daycare owners for letting the police sort out what kind of stoner was growing next door to them.
2012-09-23 07:36:37 AM
2 votes:
Land of the free, baby. Land of the free.
2012-09-23 10:00:55 PM
1 votes:
Wow, Day Care's run on thin ice own their own, one screw up or anonymous call and they're out.

Maybe the Day Care busy body could have gone over to the neighbor and said "Hey there's a few pot plants in view and I run a day care, would you do something with those plants as I do not want to run into issues with the toddler's parents".

That would have been a neighborly thing to do, don't get the cops involved unless the neighbors a psycho.
2012-09-23 05:50:55 PM
1 votes:

Holden C: Yeah, "zero victims". Because EVERYONE grows their own. I'm in favor of legalization, but until then, stop pretending your little addiction is harmless. I think there are a few cartel victims who would beg to differ.

Pot Growers Destroying National Forests


The stuff you're talking about is ONLY a by product of the prohibition on marijuana.
Marijuana needs to be illegal!!
Why? Because it's bad! Why? Because it is illegal! Why? Why? Because it's bad! Why? Because it is illegal! Why? Because it's bad! Why? Because it is illegal! Why? Because it's bad! Why? Because it is illegal! Why? Because it's bad! Why? Because it is illegal! Why? Because it's bad! Why? Because it is illegal! Why? Because it's bad! Why? Because it is illegal! ... and so on, and so on...
2012-09-23 03:47:09 PM
1 votes:

Holden C: My point is about illegal marijuana use in general (since we ARE debating the larger issue here), not this particular story. And the "you don't agree with me so you're a troll" mindset will only work so far. At some point you may have to actually acknowledge a fault in your reasoning.

Or not, ignorance (and being perpetually high) is bliss. (THAT'S a troll, see the difference?)


No, we're actually just debating this situation. We're not debating abut what drug cartels are doing to the environment. That's another issue entirely that you brought up on your own. The rest of us are talking about grandma being able to grow some weed in her garden. You're not even on topic.

With that being said, where is the fault in my reasoning? You haven't even pointed it out, which I can only assume is because you have no sound reasoning, while simultaneously perpetuating your own straw-man argument for reasons only known to yourself. It's really kind of pointless on your part.
2012-09-23 03:25:14 PM
1 votes:
upload.wikimedia.org
/which really sounds like the dumbest way you could start explaining cannabis to kids
//Deadly nightshade is also "just a plant"
2012-09-23 02:43:42 PM
1 votes:
I'd like those of you who think people shouldn't grow weed out in the open to get to the back of the bus right now.
2012-09-23 02:07:40 PM
1 votes:
$25,000 bail, for a few pot plants??? Are you farking kidding me???
And what's with the "manufacturing" charge? Sounds she had a weed assembly line in her garage... "That's not my garden, that's my manufacturing facilities."
2012-09-23 12:47:25 PM
1 votes:

mbillips: Weed doesn't hurt anyone, but weed dealers attract dope jackers, who most certainly do.


It's almost as if these 'dope-jackers' know that the grower would fear calling the authorities for help because of draconian laws...

On the other hand, good thing no one ever 'jacks' liquor and cigarettes from these 'dealers of LEGAL goods
leftcoastvoices.files.wordpress.com
'... right...


/maybe we can just admit that criminals will exist no matter the laws, and go from there
2012-09-23 12:07:01 PM
1 votes:
Sorry but I am not at all sympathetic. If you dont want to do the time then dont do the crime. The last thing we need is folk growing poisonous substances next to school houses.
2012-09-23 11:52:24 AM
1 votes:

Cast: Sorry, but if you are implying pot has turned some of your friends and family into 'brutal criminals', you're full of it. I know a legion of smokers, and the worst of the side effects is turning somone into a forgetful, lazy, cheeto munching TV junkie


Now I know what is wrong with many of the people I know. They are potheads.
2012-09-23 11:17:45 AM
1 votes:
Its funny watching potheads try to justify themselves.
2012-09-23 10:30:37 AM
1 votes:

Ker_Thwap: RockofAges: You're a fearmongering retard. I hope you never influence public policy in any way, shape, or form in your entire life, and that you never disseminate your opinions to an impressionable mind.

My, what a pleasure to see such a thoughtful and coherent response. In point of fact however, I am not a fearmongering retard. I'm a somewhat past middle aged man who has had some experience with pot myself, who has seen first hand the damage that recreational drugs has done to friends, family and neighbors. I've seen some stoners who handle it responsibly, and also seen the ones who are brutal criminals to support their habits. Maybe when you get out of high school and see a bit more of the world, you'll realize that it's wrong to demonize everyone who doesn't share your narrow minded opinions. But.. I have little hope in your case.


Sorry, but if you are implying pot has turned some of your friends and family into 'brutal criminals', you're full of it. I know a legion of smokers, and the worst of the side effects is turning somone into a forgetful, lazy, cheeto munching TV junkie. Those people aren't a risk to anyone but themselves and their cardiovascular systems.

/old
//sensitive bullshiat detector
2012-09-23 09:57:04 AM
1 votes:

LDM90: James F. Campbell: Ker_Thwap
Account created: 2012-05-24 10:18:08

Next time I'll look first before I reply -- and continue my policy of automatically ignoring any accounts from 2012 that say stupid shiat.

I've never understood this criticism. How old is old enough? I've been jabbed with it before. I lurked for about 5 years before signing up. I got tired of that name after about a year and then dropped it for another. And really, it's not like you'll ever know who he is anyway. He's a name on a screen just like the rest of us.


As someone who tends to switch handles pretty often yet has been hanging around this site since the day it became more than squirrel balls, must agree that account age alone is not a very good indicator of anything at all.

I took Ker_Thwap's post to be entirely serious and his replies did not seem any less sincere. I don't think he's a troll, personally. The problem is that it is almost impossible to tell someone who sincerely clings to wrong-headed notions and is willing to profess and defend them aloud from someone simply trying to incite anger in sensible people for fun because the end result is often the same.

For the record "it's illegal, duh" brings nothing to the conversation. It is also incorrect at this point in time, because what we are discussing is only situationally illegal. This indicates that there is in fact a debate about the sensibility of prohibition in general and as noted in the article, the cops looked for a posting claiming the grow to be medicinal which in many cases would have exempted the grower from prosecution entirely. It's never actually a valid argument when debating the efficacy or validity of a given law but in the instance in particular it is no more than the functional equivalent of "la la la I can't hear you".

Which brings us back to how people get labelled as trolls...
2012-09-23 09:33:56 AM
1 votes:

namegoeshere: You have to be a special kind of stupid to grow your pot in an open garden visible from a daycare.


FTFA---"They got a search warrant and confiscated the plants, noting there were no postings stating the plants were medical marijuana
This denotes a state where it is LEGAL to grow under certain circumstances. Lazy for not educating themselves on how to work within the established rules? Yes.
Stupid for growing in a state where it's supposedly legal? Not so much.
2012-09-23 09:16:42 AM
1 votes:
You have to be a special kind of stupid to grow your pot in an open garden visible from a daycare.
2012-09-23 08:16:52 AM
1 votes:
Ker_Thwap
Account created:
2012-05-24 10:18:08

Next time I'll look first before I reply -- and continue my policy of automatically ignoring any accounts from 2012 that say stupid shiat.
2012-09-23 08:16:17 AM
1 votes:
$25,000 bail? Really? Stupid tag applies to this as well. I'm sure the homeowner is a real flight risk. Should have been more like $500, if that.
2012-09-23 08:09:44 AM
1 votes:

Ker_Thwap: . Might I suggest a logic 101 course? The reality of the situation is that weed is currently criminal..



The weed is currently criminal, arrest the weed!
2012-09-23 07:37:13 AM
1 votes:
From the comments.

"Thank God we ended this evil and diabolical criminal enterprise before it came to fruition. It looks like our heroes swooped in to her lair in the nick of time to foil this dastardly child of Satan before she could (gulp) get high or something. I'm going hug my kids just a little tighter tonight knowing that next time we may not be able to stop the next madman with a green thumb and a spritzer bottle. What then, I ask you, what then?"
2012-09-23 07:35:06 AM
1 votes:
FTA: Police talked to the home's resident, who said the plants were not hers but belonged to someone who didn't live there anymore. When asked why she still tended to the plants, she reportedly told police she "waters all her plants."

Thank god this godless, law-breaking criminal scum has been taken off the streets. I feel so much safer. Don't you?

/I'm shocked they didn't arrest the person who recognized the plants to begin with.
 
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