vossiewulf: Those CFLs have a blue color we don't like? Um, he isn't aware they come in all sorts of color temps? Yeah, most of them are the 6000k blue type, but go on Amazon and search for CFL 2700K and you get nice warm yellow ones identical to old-fashioned incandescents. That's what I use.
EvilEgg: So what $150 a bulb?
Jamdug!: That's kind of cool, but LED lightbulbs are nothing new.
Sliding Carp: Plus a smartphone.
Canton: Yeah, the smart phone aspect makes this a "no" for me. The idea of programmable, color-changing LED bulbs is great. Meanwhile, not everyone has a smartphone. (I do, but still.) That narrows the market. Smartphone tech is continually evolving, and involves more than one OS. That's not going to stop. If the bulbs can last for 25 years, would this company be diligent about tweaking multiple versions of their app to match their customers' phones?They should have developed a dedicated control device to go with the bulbs, is what I'm saying.
stonicus: I think you guys are focusing too much on the "smartphone" app. If this product takes off, there will be apps for every platform of phone, tablet and PC.
maxheck: Once you put a microcontroller in something all sorts of things are possible, but some engineers never stop to think if those things are actually *desirable.*
maxheck: LesserEvil:I'd buy a smart bulb @ $20 a bulb, but not $70, and definitely not $150.Do all of them operate off of Wi-Fi? Why? Better to have one module that plugs into your wall outlet and run the networking over the power lines.Also not sure how they are supposed to operate if they are physically turned off by your switch.All-in-all, a very cool idea, but the price point has to be a lot lower, which means better engineering on the control mechanisms.I currently get good LED bulbs at Microcenter for $8 or $9 (dimmable). I realize these are not RGB LED bulbs... but as quantities manufactured goes up, costs would come down.Also, there needs to be moe than an iPhone app to control it. I'd propose control software for Android, Windows, Linux and OSX, at the very least.Oh... and like my old X-10 setup, it would be nice to have "virtual switches" instead of hard switches. One model could replace the old switch, the other could just be stuck to the wall, even using just batteries./Would be nice to have random light control when away on vacation//Even nicer to tie into sensors to provide light in the middle of the night without having to find a switchThe price is definitely high especially since they're using Kickstarter to pay for the development, but there are a couple of components to this that aren't going to get much cheaper through volume.Specifically the wireless module (COTS, already in every wireless gadget out there) and the digitally-controlled current regulators to vary the color and brightness. I'm guessing you *might* see this at $50 / bulb, but you're unlikely to see it at $20.I'm also curious to see how well it handles heat. Dumb power FETs don't mind running hot, but microcontrollers certainly do.I've never messed around with X10 through-the-wires controllers, but don't they have problems if you have the controller on a different breaker than the devices you're controlling? I know they have issues with surge protectors and other powe ...
stealthd: SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
evulc: i hope thats a really old video ;)
Giltric: I dont mind getting up from my chair and turning the light off via the switch on the wall...therfore I am better then you lazy ass I can do it from my smartphone idiots.
Sliding Carp: maxheck: Once you put a microcontroller in something all sorts of things are possible, but some engineers never stop to think if those things are actually *desirable.*Ask a biologist about computer-controlled autoclaves. Stupidest over-techologizing EVAR!A lot of the basics in this presentation really are interesting, and would be great, if they were cheap and if the entire system had an absolutely failsafe and idiot-proof fallback for the controls. Like, I don't know, light switches that just turn the lights on, when you want it bright, and off when you don't.
Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Know how I know you didn't watch the whole thing?
Sliding Carp: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Know how I know you didn't watch the whole thing?I tried, honest to God, I tried. But that video was more tedious and mind-numbing than Coldplay opening for Radiohead, and I just couldn't slog through to the end. Light switches involved somewhere, then?
RoxtarRyan: So.. a multi-color LED light that can do a strobe effect, smooth transition, fades and can be controlled from a remote device?[www.thinkgeek.com image 300x300]Thinkgeek has been selling these for years.
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