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2012-09-22 03:57:40 PM
5 votes:
So what would happen if people reported on real names, but claimed they were fake? Would the false positives cause Facebook to reject the entire process as unreliable?
2012-09-22 04:18:12 PM
3 votes:
What I posted on fb:

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The right to call yourself anything you want (as long as you're not trying to defraud anyone) exists in meatspace. We should not relinquish it in e-space simply because a company wants to make more money than it already does.

This is my real online name. I was forced to choose it because Facebook didn't allow me to use my actual online name that I had been using since 1986. I have grown rather fond of it in addition to my other name.

The answer to this question, should you ever come across something like this anywhere, is "that's his real name." And yes, it will affect the person's account. That part in the dialog box is a huge lie.

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What I didn't post on FB: If I find out someone reports me as not being a real owl, that person will be defriended in meatspace too as "not to be trusted."
2012-09-22 05:11:08 PM
2 votes:
FTFA: Facebook's ongoing war on pseudonyms is well-documented. The company wants everyone to use their real name on the social network, and ideally this would be their only identity on the Internet.

This will NEVER happen. Ever. Anyone working at Facebook who thinks it will, deserves to be fired.
2012-09-22 05:05:52 PM
2 votes:
Oh please with the 'trying to make it a safer environment' garbage. This is being pursued more vigorously as Zuck is trying to convince investment houses that he really does have 100 Million actual users.

- Don't rat out my dog's page, please?
2012-09-22 04:52:48 PM
2 votes:

TsukasaK: Jesus, poison the well much?


Then let's go with what just happened in Syria.

The government was using FB and Twitter to find out who was circulating information, getting their real names, going to their houses, and shooting them.

Anonymity is a right. It is an *important* right.
2012-09-22 04:52:43 PM
2 votes:
While I do not use FB at all, I have a friend who tried to sign up using her real name and it wouldn't take it as it didn't think that was a "real" name. Ummm, that is an exceptionally common name in very old Norwegian families and throughout Iceland, and it's not a "real" name? Wtf? FB hates Nordic people? She ended up using an absolutely ridiculous pseudonym that isn't even close to her real name to get on there, just because she wanted to see what all the hubbub was about. She ended up trying to kill her account about a month later and that was a PITA, too. Zuckerberg and his psycho sis need someone to kick them in the chest so maybe their heads will finally pop out of their azzes.

/I wish the lovely Shaniquea luck with that name
//same with her BFF Britneigh
2012-09-22 04:12:37 PM
2 votes:
I'm not completely sure why they care as much as they do. Yeah, if I'm Sexxxxxy Q. Chunkybutt to my buddies on Facebook, then maybe I'm not going to use that as my one-size-fits-all internet ID.

But Sexxxxxy Q. Chunkybutt's consumer profile, ad clicks, and so forth are all as internally coherent as they'd be with my real name, and worth just as much for ad-sales and data-mining purposes.

Actually, maybe they just don't want me figuring out how many different people they're selling my information to, if I start getting junk mail and telemarketing calls for Mr. Chunkybutt. Not that I give Facebook my address and phone number, but some (stupid) people do.

/that's "Sexxxxxy" with five Xs
//friend me on Facebook!
2012-09-22 06:15:35 PM
1 votes:
wouldn't this whole scheme backfire ? I mean, most of FB's valuation is based on it's hugely inflated user count, which is from all the derelict fake accounts and people having 5 or more accounts on there. If they want to drop to "one account per real non-anonymous user" then they are really asking to have 800 million turn back into 40 million.

you think their valuation has dropped already..... just you wait.

I'm guessing new social media sites are already being created.
2012-09-22 05:30:37 PM
1 votes:
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2012-09-22 05:25:08 PM
1 votes:

TsukasaK: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: You could NOT use the product. That's an option.

Absolutely not! It's my god given farking RIGHT to use whatever name I want on a private website, nevermind what I promised I would do.

/agreed though
//don't like the rules of the party, don't join
///personal responsibility, what a novel concept!


Yup. I left in January 2009 when Facebook updated their privacy and security policies (did the full removal - deleting pics, untagging things, removing comments and uploads, then doing the complete account removal and sent a letter requesting the database be updated to reflect my leaving). So, I don't agree to their terms of use and don't use Facebook. I was not cool with Facebook before it was cool.

/Hipster shades
2012-09-22 05:08:21 PM
1 votes:

RoyBatty: Apos: And I want a three way with Bar Refaeli and Erin Heatherton.


Both scenarios have the same chances of resounding success.

Well, one of the answers is "I don't want to tell you", which sounds to me like Facebook will certainly interpret several of those answers regarding your facebook alt as a "no".

This is why my facebook alts have no friends. (Not an explanation for why my real alt has no friends :( )

And yes, I got some facebook alts at the same time they started allowing facebook to be used as a general web commenting system.


How soon before they send you a message "you've made no friends in several months. We're deleting your account."
2012-09-22 05:02:14 PM
1 votes:
You could NOT use the product. That's an option.
2012-09-22 04:58:50 PM
1 votes:

TsukasaK: So can anyone who hates Facebook for this policy compose an argument about why it's bad without invoking any fallacious reasoning?


How about you meet my middle finger and fark off?

Plonk.

Go be a brownshirt somewhere else.
2012-09-22 04:34:10 PM
1 votes:

bubo_sibiricus: He is for removing all anonymity everywhere. Never mind that people in real life sometimes need aliases to get away from abusers (male or female) as an example. No no, one must use one's real name because anything else is deception.


Jesus, poison the well much?

Let's go with your example, an abuser. You just got out of a shiatty relationship with your life and the clothes on your back. Fast forward a few years, you set up a new Facebook account. With your real name, as the service requires.

You then get a friend request out of nowhere from your abusive ex.

What do you do?

Do you:

A) Ignore the request and hit "I don't know this person", thereby blocking them and any further requests from them
B) Accept the request and grant the person access to your updated personal details

One of these things makes sense, one of them does not.
2012-09-22 04:21:23 PM
1 votes:

TsukasaK: G+ is probably the next big thing, but they have the same requirement.


I am on G+ too.

I once followed ESR on this issue. He calls it the "Sexygirl69 problem" because it offends him.

He is for removing all anonymity everywhere. Never mind that people in real life sometimes need aliases to get away from abusers (male or female) as an example. No no, one must use one's real name because anything else is deception.

fark him.
2012-09-22 04:12:58 PM
1 votes:
You jokers using fake names are turning Facebook into a place where personal information is no longer sacred.
2012-09-22 04:00:06 PM
1 votes:

RoyBatty: rebelyell2006: So what would happen if people reported on real names, but claimed they were fake? Would the false positives cause Facebook to reject the entire process as unreliable?

That's actually an excellent idea, but would probably never work unless you can get reddit or 4chan to campaign for that.


Oh yeah be real tough to get /b/ in on something like that... snicker.
2012-09-22 03:58:52 PM
1 votes:
Whatever. When I've had a farkbook account I've never used a real name, not mine and could never be a real name.
2012-09-22 03:57:45 PM
1 votes:

Apos: And I want a three way with Bar Refaeli and Erin Heatherton.


Both scenarios have the same chances of resounding success.


Well, one of the answers is "I don't want to tell you", which sounds to me like Facebook will certainly interpret several of those answers regarding your facebook alt as a "no".

This is why my facebook alts have no friends. (Not an explanation for why my real alt has no friends :( )

And yes, I got some facebook alts at the same time they started allowing facebook to be used as a general web commenting system.
2012-09-22 03:55:24 PM
1 votes:
It's amazing that this stock was just declared massively overvalued. I will buy a nice bottle of Lagavulin when this shiatbox finally myspaces.
 
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