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(Yahoo)   Pirates front office orders their minor league instructors in an email to train their prospects using "Navy SEALs" methods and to "Dream and be creative like a Hippie. Be crazy and take risks like the Hells Angels"   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line 26
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2012-09-22 02:45:06 PM  
FTA: but nonetheless underscored the danger in having baseball players throw punches and kicks at each other.
Good grief, they have bats and they're punching and kicking? No wonder they're losing.
 
2012-09-22 03:45:36 PM  
"Dream and be creative like a Hippie. Be crazy and take risks like the Hells Angels."

Hippies and Hell's Angels - how well did that work out?
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2012-09-22 03:46:00 PM  

simplicimus: FTA: but nonetheless underscored the danger in having baseball players throw punches and kicks at each other.
Good grief, they have bats and they're punching and kicking? No wonder they're losing.


To be fair, the Pirates are a great minor league farm system for teams like the Red Sox and Yankees. These methods are really great at moving prospects along for when they are ready to join a real team.
 
2012-09-22 03:48:05 PM  
You're either a sheep or a shark. Anyone who's a sheep is fired. Who's a sheep?
 
2012-09-22 04:06:49 PM  
Do 10,000 push ups
Drop acid
Touch penises with a neighbor boy
 
2012-09-22 04:07:39 PM  
It's starting to become clear why the Pirates suck.
 
2012-09-22 04:35:54 PM  

Gosling: You're either a sheep or a shark. Anyone who's a sheep is fired. Who's a sheep?


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2012-09-22 04:53:31 PM  

puckrock2000: "Dream and be creative like a Hippie. Be crazy and take risks like the Hells Angels."

Hippies and Hell's Angels - how well did that work out?
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Hells Angels got more hits than the Pirates did
 
2012-09-22 05:18:20 PM  
No mention of any actual hitting, pitching or fielding training in the article.

Maybe that's the problem.
 
2012-09-22 05:21:02 PM  
So the Poughkeepsie Pirates are going to stab a kid?
 
2012-09-22 05:32:26 PM  
Obscure baseball rule translation please?

Watching the Tigers/Twins game. 1 out, runner on 2b, batter pops the ball up and it's going to land right next to second base. Runner on second stands on the base, the fielder bumps into him and knocks the runner over, tripping over him in the process. Ball drops to the ground cleanly. Runner on 2nd called out for interference? Batter goes to first since it dropped, but...what? The announcers are of no help.
 
2012-09-22 05:40:01 PM  
To add to that, the runner on 2nd wasn't attempting to interfere. He had his back to the fielder, head looking down, honestly, he looked like he was waiting for the bus.

Though maybe I answered my own question...maybe it's because he wasn't paying attention to the play?
 
2012-09-22 06:02:13 PM  

Scruffinator: Obscure baseball rule translation please?

Watching the Tigers/Twins game. 1 out, runner on 2b, batter pops the ball up and it's going to land right next to second base. Runner on second stands on the base, the fielder bumps into him and knocks the runner over, tripping over him in the process. Ball drops to the ground cleanly. Runner on 2nd called out for interference? Batter goes to first since it dropped, but...what? The announcers are of no help.


Scruffinator: To add to that, the runner on 2nd wasn't attempting to interfere. He had his back to the fielder, head looking down, honestly, he looked like he was waiting for the bus.

Though maybe I answered my own question...maybe it's because he wasn't paying attention to the play?


Having not seen it, I can only guess. Either the umpire thought the runner had stepped off the base (in which case that's a correct ruling) OR they thought he intentionally interfered (in which case the batter should've ALSO been out). The former is more likely since it doesn't involve a blatantly incorrect ruling.
 
2012-09-22 06:08:24 PM  
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"and never make the last out at third."
 
2012-09-22 06:08:48 PM  

DeWayne Mann: Having not seen it, I can only guess. Either the umpire thought the runner had stepped off the base (in which case that's a correct ruling) OR they thought he intentionally interfered (in which case the batter should've ALSO been out). The former is more likely since it doesn't involve a blatantly incorrect ruling.


From what I saw he was both on the base, and was clearly not intentionally interfering. Can't find the video, but both Fox national broadcasters and Tigers Radio broadcasters were pretty confused.
 
2012-09-22 06:17:25 PM  

Scruffinator: DeWayne Mann: Having not seen it, I can only guess. Either the umpire thought the runner had stepped off the base (in which case that's a correct ruling) OR they thought he intentionally interfered (in which case the batter should've ALSO been out). The former is more likely since it doesn't involve a blatantly incorrect ruling.

From what I saw he was both on the base, and was clearly not intentionally interfering. Can't find the video, but both Fox national broadcasters and Tigers Radio broadcasters were pretty confused.


I've looked around a few other places. Far as I can tell, the umps just flat out didn't know the rule at all. Here it is from the rulebook:

7.08: The runner is out when--
...
(b)He intentionally interferes with a thrown ball; or hinders a fielder attempting to make a play on a batted ball;

Rule 7.08(b) Comment: A runner who is adjudged to have hindered a fielder who is attempting to make a play on a batted ball is out whether it was intentional or not.
If, however, the runner has contact with a legally occupied base when he hinders the fielder, he shall not be called out unless, in the umpire's judgment, such hindrance, whether it occurs on fair or foul territory, is intentional. If the umpire declares the hindrance intentional, the following penalty shall apply: With less than two out, the umpire shall declare both the runner and batter out. With two out, the umpire shall declare the batter out.
 
2012-09-22 06:22:32 PM  
Somehow the Romney campaign ended up with that email.
 
2012-09-22 06:25:57 PM  

DeWayne Mann: I've looked around a few other places. Far as I can tell, the umps just flat out didn't know the rule at all. Here it is from the rulebook:


Alright, thanks. Luckily it doesn't make much of a difference in a 8-0 game.
 
2012-09-22 07:03:17 PM  
They played video of the ump explaining it to Morneau the next inning. The base is not a safety zone basically. The runner has to attempt to get out of the way but this guy pretended he didn't see the ball and tried to play innocent. He knew he was in the way and didn't move.
 
2012-09-22 07:08:03 PM  

forstmeister: They played video of the ump explaining it to Morneau the next inning. The base is not a safety zone basically. The runner has to attempt to get out of the way but this guy pretended he didn't see the ball and tried to play innocent. He knew he was in the way and didn't move.


And if any of that was supported by the rulebook, that'd be a great explanation.

If it was intentional, Span should've been out too. If it wasn't intentional, there's no out.
 
2012-09-22 07:09:14 PM  

forstmeister: They played video of the ump explaining it to Morneau the next inning. The base is not a safety zone basically. The runner has to attempt to get out of the way but this guy pretended he didn't see the ball and tried to play innocent. He knew he was in the way and didn't move.


Right, but getting out of the way means getting off the base, which could lead to him getting doubled up. I get what you're saying, but I'd rather be called out on interference than causing an inning-ending double play.

Still seemed stupid. But again, 8-0 at the time, and the Twins have already been eliminated, so no big deal. Just going to bother me until I'm too drunk to remember.

/go Angels!
//Detroit needs your help!
 
2012-09-22 08:13:08 PM  

puckrock2000: "Dream and be creative like a Hippie. Be crazy and take risks like the Hells Angels."

Hippies and Hell's Angels - how well did that work out?
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The Angels stopped a drug-crazed dude with a gun from shooting someone, while the hippies scattered. Not the fault of either or of them "working together".

/and to kids these days "Hells Angels," and "Hippies" belong to roughly the same historical period as the Crusades and the reign of King Tut, so why not toss them together?
 
2012-09-23 01:12:47 AM  
Wait a second - the Pittsburgh Pirates are sending mixed messages to their organization? Get out of town!
 
2012-09-23 03:13:13 AM  
All I know is that Pittsburgh is home to an annual Furry Convention that is held at the same hotel that Bob Uecker stays at.
 
2012-09-23 08:00:04 AM  

gameshowhost: Somehow the Romney campaign ended up with that email.


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2012-09-24 11:45:28 AM  
Not that anyone cares any more, but the Umpires said after the game that they got that call wrong.
 
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