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(Amtrak)   Marketing experts at Starbucks conclude that consumers are willing to pay $199 to burn their own coffee at home   (smartmoney.com) divider line 46
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2012-09-22 09:58:24 AM  
uncrate.com

Hot like the home made latte I'm sipping
 
2012-09-22 10:20:13 AM  
All you need is an aeropress or french press - usually less than $30 and they don't require electricity or counterspace...
 
2012-09-22 10:39:51 AM  
People who will buy this aren't buying a latte machine, they're buying the name. And it will be the same people who don't get "coffee". They get "Starbucks".

/And eat "organic popcorn".
 
2012-09-22 11:21:35 AM  
Starbucks isn't even that good to begin with.
 
2012-09-22 11:34:12 AM  
And experts say consumers could brew just as good a cup using a much cheaper espresso machine than the ones Starbucks sells -- even espresso makers under $100 do the trick and rarely need replacing, say experts.

You don't say.
 
2012-09-22 12:04:28 PM  

Calmamity: Starbucks isn't even that good to begin with.


Starbucks is pretty far below 'not very good.'
 
2012-09-22 12:27:46 PM  
www.greenmountaincoffee.com

Seriously, this is all you need + good coffee, which, to be fair, is hard to come by in the U.S. imho. Starbucks coffee sucks so bad I can't say it enough.
 
2012-09-22 12:54:27 PM  
I've got an old Black & Decker 2-cup coffeemaker and I buy Folgers ( or any other cheap supermarket brand)

/ ...and I live in the Pacific Northwest, so drinking what I drink amounts to heresy
// paid $15 for the coffeemaker years ago, IIRC
 
2012-09-22 01:04:21 PM  
I'm not a major coffee snob or anything but I've yet to try a cup of keurig style coffee that didn't tasted like freeze dried ass.
 
2012-09-22 01:04:43 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: I've got an old Black & Decker 2-cup coffeemaker and I buy Folgers ( or any other cheap supermarket brand)

/ ...and I live in the Pacific Northwest, so drinking what I drink amounts to heresy
// paid $15 for the coffeemaker years ago, IIRC


I would take Folgers over Starbucks coffee. Seriously, when did the whole burnt taste become so popular? Gross.
 
2012-09-22 01:32:15 PM  

Elzar: All you need is an aeropress or french press - usually less than $30 and they don't require electricity or counterspace...


Have both. The Aeropress was a gift, and it's nifty for when I don't want grinds in the coffee like I get with the French Press. Just bought some Sumatran coffee from the new Trader Joe's in town. Was $7 or $8 for the 16oz container of beans. Will give it a go tomorrow morning.
 
2012-09-22 01:40:29 PM  
Starbucks just needs to sell the cups with the logo on them, because the kind of people who go to starbucks are the kind of people don't go for good coffee, they go because they want you to know they go to starbucks.
 
2012-09-22 01:52:37 PM  
my coffee snob moment.

i269.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-22 02:10:06 PM  
They will get bought and put in a cupboard. Then they will line up in their car for 5 mins to order a cup every morning.

People are lazy.
 
2012-09-22 02:22:15 PM  

Spanky_McFarksalot: my coffee snob moment.

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Vietnamese? Nice.

I tried, a little while ago, to get in the Starbucks gravy train. I couldn't do it, I just could not. I mean, I have a sweet tooth, but that stuff I ordered was just too much, and then, yeah, the coffee is kinda burnt. So I'll keep making my poor man's mocha.
 
2012-09-22 02:41:03 PM  
I've no idea what they do to their coffee so that it tastes like coffee-flavored gelatinous hot milk-shake. You can see them making it... everything looks normal. Yet that same weird consistency, anywhere you go.

Do they use some sort of sunflower oil synthetic milk or something?
 
2012-09-22 02:44:19 PM  
Starbucks coffee hate is identical to iPhone hate.

Contrarian hipsters hating things that other people like.

Welcome to Fark.
 
2012-09-22 03:02:26 PM  
Starbucks is to coffee as Hydroxycut is to weightloss. Everyone knows the simple formula to lose weight or make good coffee, most want a shortcut or some kind of hyper experience to make it seem better and easier.
 
2012-09-22 03:03:53 PM  
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2012-09-22 03:08:14 PM  

justtray: Starbucks coffee hate is identical to iPhone hate.

Contrarian hipsters hating things that other people like.

Welcome to Fark.


There are plenty of good reasons to hate Apple and Starbucks. It doesn't make you a hipster to hate them.
 
2012-09-22 03:13:20 PM  

CygnusDarius: Vietnamese? Nice.


yup, best coffee in the world. Brought back half my suitcase full of Vietnamese coffee.
 
2012-09-22 03:21:43 PM  

Spanky_McFarksalot: CygnusDarius: Vietnamese? Nice.

yup, best coffee in the world. Brought back half my suitcase full of Vietnamese coffee.


I would've just gotten the thingamajigs to make it, but how different is the viet coffee bean from the rest?.
 
2012-09-22 03:31:08 PM  
Your Starbucks must suck. All you. I love my coffee, but when I order a drip from Starbucks I know it will not be the best so I adulterate it with shots. The Clover cups are pretty amazing though, but I hear there are only a few SB in the world with those machines.

I might be more addicted to the service I receive though. I've never paid full price from my coffee there, they always start prepping my cup when I walk in the door, and I enjoy a Cheers like reputation there. Everyone f'in knows your name.

It is good to be a teacher sometimes...
 
2012-09-22 03:35:47 PM  
I know this sounds outrageous, but does the US have the new McDonalds coffee yet, that's been test marketed in mainland Europe for a while in their redesigned "coffee house" restaurants?

Not as good as your genuine coffee house or proper restaurant, but a country mile ahead of the coffee chains. And half the price of Starbucks.
 
2012-09-22 03:47:06 PM  

CygnusDarius: Spanky_McFarksalot: CygnusDarius: Vietnamese? Nice.

yup, best coffee in the world. Brought back half my suitcase full of Vietnamese coffee.

I would've just gotten the thingamajigs to make it, but how different is the viet coffee bean from the rest?.


Vietnamese coffee has chicory in it.

Go buy some Cafe du Monde beans from New Orleans and save yourself a really long flight.
 
2012-09-22 03:52:22 PM  

justtray: Starbucks coffee hate is identical to iPhone hate.

Contrarian hipsters hating things that other people like.

Welcome to Fark.


No, not really. I like coffee. From can-see to can't-see. Black. In a dirty cup. With a cigarette. Just like grampa used to make. Starbucks users are 99% metrosexual. NTTAWWT.
 
2012-09-22 03:53:15 PM  

justtray: Starbucks coffee hate is identical to iPhone hate.

Contrarian hipsters hating things that other people like.

Welcome to Fark.



Umm, Starbucks hate is mainly because their coffee isn't very good and their ubiquity often leads to other coffee houses closing down, and iPhone hate is usually because Apple have done a slew of rather wicked things (such as industry-wide eBook price rigging and aggressive legislation aimed at retarding innovation).

Both reasons are quite different and quite reasonable.
 
2012-09-22 05:08:25 PM  
You know what's better than Starbucks in the morning?

chanceseales.files.wordpress.com

I've always thought Starbucks made for a nifty place to meet. You can get a non-alcoholic drink and grab some conversation time and if you have to meet with multiple people throughout the day you can fake interest over coffee much easier than that fifth lunch.
 
2012-09-22 05:42:59 PM  

Calmamity: Starbucks isn't even that good to begin with.


THIS! It's even worse than the "Fair-Trade" and "Organic" and "We Don't Filter Out The Animal Turds" coffee that coffee shops like Bridgehead and my university serve. And that is saying a heck of a lot.

/also, it's bloody expensive shiat. If you drink as much coffee as I do, and you haven't won the lottery, you don't drink Starbucks.
 
2012-09-22 06:01:00 PM  

justtray: Starbucks coffee hate is identical to iPhone hate.

Contrarian hipsters hating things that other people like.

Welcome to Fark.


Yeah no.

Starbucks coffee is burnt shiat. I've tried to drink it - heck, I used to get a free 10 cup take out with about 7 cups left in it after a monthly meeting of executives, as only the committee chair drank Starbucks and she always ordered a huge one. I tried about 5 different kinds, at a half dozen Starbucks since friends of mine loved to go. I gave it a hell of a chance, and not one blend of coffee there tasted good.

Apple I dislike because of the old version of iTunes, which I installed years ago and had to end up formatting my HD because I couldn't remove file associations. As I was working as a computer tech at the time, I was well acquainted with troubleshooting techniques, researching problems on the internet, calling for tech support, etc. And since I only use my phone for three purposes (1 - texting. 2 - telephone calls. 3 - radio when my MP3 player is out of juice), I've never needed a iPhone, wanted a smartphone or cared about checking on who's replied to me on Fark while I'm getting a lap dance.
 
2012-09-22 06:10:08 PM  

Tax Boy: Vietnamese coffee has chicory in it.

Go buy some Cafe du Monde beans from New Orleans and save yourself a really long flight.


not so much.from wiki:

Availability in other countries

In the USA, Vietnamese-style coffee is sometimes confused with that brewed in Louisiana with French roast coffee with chicory. Vietnamese immigrants who came to the state in the late 20th century adopted New Orleans-style coffee because they were unable to get Vietnamese-grown coffee.[5] The French roast style popular in Louisiana was similar to Vietnamese coffee in its relatively coarse grind; therefore it made an excellent substitute for traditional brewing in the single-serving filter/brewer. In Vietnam, however, locally produced coffees are characterized by medium roast and don't contain chicory.[6]
 
2012-09-22 06:11:37 PM  

Spanky_McFarksalot: my coffee snob moment.

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Loves my Viet filter. Got the "fancy" one at Great Wall for $4.
 
2012-09-22 06:19:18 PM  
I have 7 coffee makers/pots/filters/presses. This is about enthusiasm, not snobbery. My favorite coffee maker is my Senseo, which I can operate at 5am before my eyes open, and with the right pod makes a nice cuppa. Suck it, haters. My Melitta CuppaJoe is my second favorite (more suckits for the haters), which will take coffee of any grind you like and accept hot water over it. The biggest difference between the two? I have to actually pay attention while pouring for the CuppaJoe.
My new office has an espresso machine right outside the door (awful), a real espresso machine in the basement (2 Soles for a cappuccino, about 65 cents), Starbucks, Dunkin' Donuts, and McD's Cafe across the street. God, I love this place.
 
2012-09-22 06:23:56 PM  

Techhell: justtray: Starbucks coffee hate is identical to iPhone hate.

Contrarian hipsters hating things that other people like.

Welcome to Fark.

Yeah no.

Starbucks coffee is burnt shiat. I've tried to drink it - heck, I used to get a free 10 cup take out with about 7 cups left in it after a monthly meeting of executives, as only the committee chair drank Starbucks and she always ordered a huge one. I tried about 5 different kinds, at a half dozen Starbucks since friends of mine loved to go. I gave it a hell of a chance, and not one blend of coffee there tasted good.


I actually drank quite a bit of Starbucks this summer, as that's what they had at my summer work. The only stuff I could drink was the breakfast stuff, and even then I had to dump sugar into it to make it drinkable. I think it came close to giving me a stomach ulcer too. I drink mostly Folgers and Dunkin Donuts at home and neither of them do that to me, even though I drink more at home. Starbucks destroys good coffee by making it burnt, bitter and unnecessarily harsh by pointlessly overroasting the coffee.
 
2012-09-22 06:26:52 PM  

wildcardjack: You know what's better than Starbucks in the morning?

[chanceseales.files.wordpress.com image 720x540]

I've always thought Starbucks made for a nifty place to meet. You can get a non-alcoholic drink and grab some conversation time and if you have to meet with multiple people throughout the day you can fake interest over coffee much easier than that fifth lunch.


Is that QuikTrip? If so, the butter pecan creamer out of that flavor center is bada$$
 
2012-09-22 07:01:51 PM  
Oil for the lamps of China.
 
2012-09-22 07:11:46 PM  
As a coffee aficionado, I would just like to nominate Holiday Stations that have their Dark Roast.

Failing that, Maxwell House Signature Dark.
 
2012-09-22 07:17:11 PM  

Bungles: I've no idea what they do to their coffee so that it tastes like coffee-flavored gelatinous hot milk-shake. You can see them making it... everything looks normal. Yet that same weird consistency, anywhere you go.

Do they use some sort of sunflower oil synthetic milk or something?


They burn the milk. I like their coffee for icing though - it's so charred some extra ice and fresh cream balances it out nicely.
 
2012-09-22 07:58:52 PM  
I used to live in an area with quicktrip, yep their coffee is the best of the convienience store variety. It is pretty good stuff.
 
2012-09-22 09:14:27 PM  

justtray: Starbucks coffee hate is identical to iPhone hate.

Contrarian hipsters hating things that other people like.

Welcome to Fark.


sorry, i don't agree. i'm not a hipster. i could care less about someones choice of cell phone.

bottom line: i've tried Starbucks coffee. found it to taste simply awful, and it was very expensive.

we live in a country where many people pay more for light beer, which is less a product than regular beer at a better price. advertising and marketing is huge, and people are easily swayed.

i consider Starbucks to be one of those light beer less for more easily swayed things.
 
2012-09-22 09:35:44 PM  

Elzar: All you need is an aeropress or french press - usually less than $30 and they don't require electricity or counterspace...


I use an electric kettle on my counter to boil water for my french press ;)
I do find it the best way to make fresh tasting coffee though.

We have a keurig at my office which is quick and convenient but I'm not impressed by the quality of the coffee, even after trying dozens of different kinds of the little cups.
Better than stuff that's been sitting around in a heated pot but still unimpressive.
 
2012-09-22 11:41:39 PM  
Starbucks coffee tastes like shiate. I'm not a snob or a hater, I drink any type of coffee, but I cant wrap my head around how Starbucks is so successful serving such crap. I guess it goes well with the dessert drinks they serve.
 
2012-09-23 03:06:40 AM  

justtray: Starbucks coffee hate is identical to iPhone hate.

Contrarian hipsters hating things that other people like.

Welcome to Fark.


Contrarian hipsters? Maybe. But Starbucks coffee is...not good. Their signature roasts are mostly "burned to a crisp."
 
2012-09-23 05:20:30 AM  
While a pound of beans ranges from about $8 to $15 from a high-end roaster, the equivalent of one pound of coffee in pods costs $60 to $70

Wow. Spend money so you have to spend more money.
 
2012-09-23 02:38:30 PM  

Elzar: All you need is an aeropress or french press - usually less than $30 and they don't require electricity or counterspace...


That doesn't exactly do the same kind of coffee than an espresso machine, or a Bialetti Italian coffee maker. The French press is great for ''long coffee'' (I don't know how to say it in English, sorry), for breakfast and so on, but when you want the jolt of a ''short coffee'' like an espresso, those won't do at all.

Anyway, they are trying to get the same kind of market that Nestlé managed to get in Europe with their Nespresso machines.
 
2012-09-24 07:06:12 AM  
So I guess this means that Starbucks tried to buy Green Mountain, they said no and this is their way to get a bigger share of that market. I don't see other roasters using starbuck's single cup system, which is why the K-cup platform is as popular as it is.
 
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