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2012-09-22 09:47:52 AM
Um subby? Iranians don't do that. That would be the Saudis and some around Saudi Arabia.
 
2012-09-22 09:55:27 AM

WhyteRaven74: Um subby? Iranians don't do that. That would be the Saudis and some around Saudi Arabia.


In subby's world they're all Moose limb Ay-Rabs.
 
2012-09-22 10:09:17 AM
+1 headline Subby
 
2012-09-22 10:21:00 AM
So, how are they going to keep this country-wide intranet from hooking up to devices that happen to also be connected to satellite internet services?

They'd need to ban all computers not manufactured in Iran, and build their own semiconductor plant and develop in-house programming talent to make this work.

Alternatively, they could make every employee entering or leaving a centrifuge plant get hit with a strong EMP at the gate. Too bad for Iranians with pacemakers, but I doubt there are many of those in the first place.
 
2012-09-22 10:29:01 AM
Funnily enough, when you adjust for purchasing power parity, Iran has a stronger economy than Australia, according to the 2011 IMF data. What they lack in mineral deposits, they make up for with petrochemicals. Their weak currency increases the relative value of their exports.

I wonder how the sanctions are able to deal with their chief export being a global commodity that isn't easily traced. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Iran sold oil to Venezuela or similar friendly countries as part of a proxy run-around.
 
2012-09-22 10:32:16 AM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: So, how are they going to keep this country-wide intranet from hooking up to devices that happen to also be connected to satellite internet services?.


I came here to ask a similar question. essentially Iran wants to turn the entire country into a huge intranet....which is fine, I suppose...but there doesn't seem to be any way to make it completely walled off. Not without finding a way to completely lock down all communications NOT routed through government black boxes. that's cumbersome, to say the least. and unless they find a way to tag and track EVERY communications dish in the country, it's impractical as well.
 
2012-09-22 10:54:21 AM
"I noticed you searched for 'How to emigrate' -- did you mean 'How to endure a car battery hooked up to your testicles until such time you craft the correct apology to your Ayatollah?'"

Also, +1 subby!
 
2012-09-22 11:10:12 AM

WhyteRaven74: Um subby? Iranians don't do that. That would be the Saudis and some around Saudi Arabia.


IIRC, they do it more and more. Iranian society is getting more restrictive regarding it's treatment of women, which is a damn shame.
 
2012-09-22 12:57:49 PM
Awesome headline subby.
 
2012-09-22 01:00:02 PM
Okay, now if we could just convince Apple that Samsung is spelled "Iran"...
 
2012-09-22 01:02:42 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: "I noticed you searched for 'How to emigrate' -- did you mean 'How to endure a car battery hooked up to your testicles until such time you craft the correct apology to your Ayatollah?'"

Also, +1 subby!


Wait...they get that site for free?!
 
2012-09-22 01:03:15 PM
Iran would be a free and wonderful place if it weren't for those meddling USraelites.

/amidoingitrite?
 
2012-09-22 01:04:45 PM
Subby:

4.bp.blogspot.com

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-09-22 01:06:07 PM
Meh, Grateful Deadheads started 'Steal Your Face' book a couple minutes ago.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-22 01:06:59 PM

Weaver95: omnibus_necanda_sunt: So, how are they going to keep this country-wide intranet from hooking up to devices that happen to also be connected to satellite internet services?.

I came here to ask a similar question. essentially Iran wants to turn the entire country into a huge intranet....which is fine, I suppose...but there doesn't seem to be any way to make it completely walled off. Not without finding a way to completely lock down all communications NOT routed through government black boxes. that's cumbersome, to say the least. and unless they find a way to tag and track EVERY communications dish in the country, it's impractical as well.


I'm sure they'll give it the ol' college try.
 
2012-09-22 01:07:33 PM
Cute. Sounds like a throw-away line Seth Meyers would say on "Weekend Update."
 
2012-09-22 01:09:38 PM

StoneColdAtheist: Okay, now if we could just convince Apple that Samsung is spelled "Iran"...


That would make Apple "Israel."

/they both love lawyers and money.
 
2012-09-22 01:17:47 PM

Weaver95: omnibus_necanda_sunt: So, how are they going to keep this country-wide intranet from hooking up to devices that happen to also be connected to satellite internet services?.

I came here to ask a similar question. essentially Iran wants to turn the entire country into a huge intranet....which is fine, I suppose...but there doesn't seem to be any way to make it completely walled off. Not without finding a way to completely lock down all communications NOT routed through government black boxes. that's cumbersome, to say the least. and unless they find a way to tag and track EVERY communications dish in the country, it's impractical as well.


They have done this. Since satellite dishes are highly visible on the roof, they're exposed and easily hunted down by the Basij.
Basij are either volunteer jingoists for the regime, or merely paid, but they're civilians operating with a broad license of power handed out by the govt.
From what I can tell, its comparison could be anything from your HOA president dicking into your business to a full-on armed mob along the lines of that torch-wielding mob scene from Frankenstein.
 
2012-09-22 01:18:06 PM
FTFA Iran builds a self-contained version of the internet. Single women flock to the new social network, "You Must Completely Cover Your Face Book"


What the article really says:
the Iranian government has begun to lay out technical plans to build their own 

They haven't even bought a router yet let alone figure out how they are going to build it.
 
2012-09-22 01:19:07 PM

walkerhound: That would make Apple "Israel."

/they both love lawyers and money.


And that would make Android what? Russia? or China?

/I'm going to take Russia
 
2012-09-22 01:24:45 PM
Israel volunteered to put up the firewall just this week.
 
2012-09-22 01:29:07 PM

WhyteRaven74: Um subby? Iranians don't do that. That would be the Saudis and some around Saudi Arabia.


Wikipedia Women's Rights in Iran See Hijab.

Not as strict as Saudi, but close. No hijab = 70 lashes or 60 days in prison
 
2012-09-22 01:30:48 PM

swangoatman: Israel volunteered to put up the firewall just this week.


More like fire@wall
 
2012-09-22 01:32:33 PM

gingerjet: FTFA Iran builds a self-contained version of the internet. Single women flock to the new social network, "You Must Completely Cover Your Face Book"


What the article really says:
the Iranian government has begun to lay out technical plans to build their own 

They haven't even bought a router yet let alone figure out how they are going to build it.


First they need a metric buttload of tubes....
 
2012-09-22 01:35:11 PM

Twice Banned: WhyteRaven74: Um subby? Iranians don't do that. That would be the Saudis and some around Saudi Arabia.

Wikipedia Women's Rights in Iran See Hijab.

Not as strict as Saudi, but close. No hijab = 70 lashes or 60 days in prison


Hijab yes, covers face... no.
 
2012-09-22 01:37:10 PM

Weaver95: omnibus_necanda_sunt: So, how are they going to keep this country-wide intranet from hooking up to devices that happen to also be connected to satellite internet services?.

I came here to ask a similar question. essentially Iran wants to turn the entire country into a huge intranet....which is fine, I suppose...but there doesn't seem to be any way to make it completely walled off. Not without finding a way to completely lock down all communications NOT routed through government black boxes. that's cumbersome, to say the least. and unless they find a way to tag and track EVERY communications dish in the country, it's impractical as well.


I'm not sure they have to - they just need to make it sufficiently awkward that it's circumvented by few enough people to prevent any kind of critical mass forming. Same as in China.
 
2012-09-22 01:38:43 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Funnily enough, when you adjust for purchasing power parity, Iran has a stronger economy than Australia, according to the 2011 IMF data. What they lack in mineral deposits, they make up for with petrochemicals. Their weak currency increases the relative value of their exports.

I wonder how the sanctions are able to deal with their chief export being a global commodity that isn't easily traced. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Iran sold oil to Venezuela or similar friendly countries as part of a proxy run-around.


Oil is transported overseas in giant ships that can be seen from orbit by our satellites.
 
2012-09-22 01:40:27 PM

IronOcelot: Twice Banned: WhyteRaven74: Um subby? Iranians don't do that. That would be the Saudis and some around Saudi Arabia.

Wikipedia Women's Rights in Iran See Hijab.

Not as strict as Saudi, but close. No hijab = 70 lashes or 60 days in prison

Hijab yes, covers face... no.


As far as I'm concern that is pretty close to Saudi Arabia's standard. Yes, hijab allows face; but to give a woman 70 lashes for not dressing appropriately puts them in the same league as Saudi. There is no excuse for either county in this day in age.
 
2012-09-22 01:41:47 PM
"Sexy 18 year old female seeking partners for casual sex. Turn-ons include blasphemy, government insurrection, Israeli spies. Turn-offs: The Ahmadinejad regime. If interested please meet me Saturday next to town gallows. "
 
2012-09-22 01:48:53 PM
MDPV-fueled eat your face book
 
2012-09-22 01:51:32 PM

WhyteRaven74: Um subby? Iranians don't do that. That would be the Saudis and some around Saudi Arabia.


I laughed anyway.
 
2012-09-22 01:51:59 PM
Pardon my ignorance, please, but if I understand things correctly, the reason women wear the burkas is to not be so enticing to men? Or is there another reason? And why do the women there put up with it?
 
2012-09-22 01:53:51 PM

Twice Banned: IronOcelot: Twice Banned: WhyteRaven74: Um subby? Iranians don't do that. That would be the Saudis and some around Saudi Arabia.

Wikipedia Women's Rights in Iran See Hijab.

Not as strict as Saudi, but close. No hijab = 70 lashes or 60 days in prison

Hijab yes, covers face... no.

As far as I'm concern that is pretty close to Saudi Arabia's standard. Yes, hijab allows face; but to give a woman 70 lashes for not dressing appropriately puts them in the same league as Saudi. There is no excuse for either county in this day in age.


I agree completely.

We lived in Saudi for over a decade and the wife has traveled to nearly all those countries over the last two decades for her work.
It was shocking how the applications of laws were just so hit or miss all on who your connections were and who has paid off who recently.
Punishment varies a lot depending on if your has any clout with the Imams or they like you. Then it's a talking to or some minor crap now-be-a-goodie-two-shoes stuff.

If the Imams don't like your family, your family is not high enough up on the food chain to matter or worse your mentally deficient...
Then your lucky if it's just lashes.
 
2012-09-22 01:55:43 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: They'd need to ban all computers not manufactured in Iran, and build their own semiconductor plant and develop in-house programming talent to make this work.


ROFL! No they wouldn't. Networking, how does it work!?
 
2012-09-22 01:58:39 PM
A self contained internet? So they're going to upload AOL to all of the nation?
 
2012-09-22 02:05:35 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-22 02:14:54 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-22 02:23:24 PM

rudemix: A self contained internet? So they're going to upload AOL to all of the nation?


Not even the Iranians deserve AOL.
 
2012-09-22 02:40:52 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Funnily enough, when you adjust for purchasing power parity, Iran has a stronger economy than Australia, according to the 2011 IMF data. What they lack in mineral deposits, they make up for with petrochemicals. Their weak currency increases the relative value of their exports.

I wonder how the sanctions are able to deal with their chief export being a global commodity that isn't easily traced. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Iran sold oil to Venezuela or similar friendly countries as part of a proxy run-around.


Really? They have mad crazy inflation these days.
 
2012-09-22 02:50:17 PM
great headline
 
2012-09-22 03:01:26 PM

Satanic_Hamster: omnibus_necanda_sunt: Funnily enough, when you adjust for purchasing power parity, Iran has a stronger economy than Australia, according to the 2011 IMF data. What they lack in mineral deposits, they make up for with petrochemicals. Their weak currency increases the relative value of their exports.

I wonder how the sanctions are able to deal with their chief export being a global commodity that isn't easily traced. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Iran sold oil to Venezuela or similar friendly countries as part of a proxy run-around.

Oil is transported overseas in giant ships that can be seen from orbit by our satellites.


Does the manifest match the cargo?
 
2012-09-22 03:23:00 PM
So, it sounds like they are trying to build the equivalent of SIPRNet. If they get it up and running, methinks it won't be long until some government official carelessly connects a machine to the secure network and the public internet simultaneously and the US and Israel will be waiting to pounce on the opportunity with Stuxnet 2.0.
 
2012-09-22 03:27:16 PM

Satanic_Hamster: omnibus_necanda_sunt: Funnily enough, when you adjust for purchasing power parity, Iran has a stronger economy than Australia, according to the 2011 IMF data. What they lack in mineral deposits, they make up for with petrochemicals. Their weak currency increases the relative value of their exports.

I wonder how the sanctions are able to deal with their chief export being a global commodity that isn't easily traced. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Iran sold oil to Venezuela or similar friendly countries as part of a proxy run-around.

Oil is transported overseas in giant ships that can be seen from orbit by our satellites.


Satellites pointed in which direction? I'm gonna guess these aren't like, space ships.

/notsayingitwasaliens.jpg
 
2012-09-22 03:37:05 PM

WhyteRaven74: Um subby? Iranians don't do that. That would be the Saudis and some around Saudi Arabia.


i.imgur.com
Would like a word with you.
 
2012-09-22 03:46:35 PM

space_cadet_28: WhyteRaven74: Um subby? Iranians don't do that. That would be the Saudis and some around Saudi Arabia.

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Would like a word with you.


More like:

www.enduringamerica.com
 
2012-09-22 04:01:09 PM

runescorpio: Does the manifest match the cargo?


Does your mom's carpet match her drapes?

Hah hah, just kidding. biatch has hard wood floors.
 
2012-09-22 04:10:31 PM

runescorpio: Satanic_Hamster: omnibus_necanda_sunt: Funnily enough, when you adjust for purchasing power parity, Iran has a stronger economy than Australia, according to the 2011 IMF data. What they lack in mineral deposits, they make up for with petrochemicals. Their weak currency increases the relative value of their exports.

I wonder how the sanctions are able to deal with their chief export being a global commodity that isn't easily traced. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Iran sold oil to Venezuela or similar friendly countries as part of a proxy run-around.

Oil is transported overseas in giant ships that can be seen from orbit by our satellites.

Does the manifest match the cargo?


If you knew anything about ships, and in particular VLCC type tankers, any NATO warship can tell at a glance if a VLCC is loaded.

If you want an interesting web site about such things

http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/

 
2012-09-22 05:37:30 PM
Such an internal 'net could bring these attacks to a close and allow Iran to move without accountability or scrutiny.

Challenge Accepted
 
2012-09-22 05:54:55 PM

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Funnily enough, when you adjust for purchasing power parity, Iran has a stronger economy than Australia, according to the 2011 IMF data. What they lack in mineral deposits, they make up for with petrochemicals. Their weak currency increases the relative value of their exports.

I wonder how the sanctions are able to deal with their chief export being a global commodity that isn't easily traced. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Iran sold oil to Venezuela or similar friendly countries as part of a proxy run-around.


All oil is not the same. They vary regionally as to sulfur content API gravity and viscosity, hydrocarbon makeup etc.. These are all things sthat affect refining. In some cases it is even possible to narrow what oil field it was extracted by looking at these things. IIRC Iranian oil has a different sulfur content than Venezuelan

You cannot even refine some very heavy Venezuelan oil (tar like almost solid at room temp) in the same refinery as you would for a lighter crude.
 
2012-09-22 06:01:21 PM
docs.google.com
 
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