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2012-09-23 12:47:24 AM

GavinTheAlmighty: Testiclaw: FARK YOU JONES, PIECE OF SHIAT.

The tears of Jones haters sustain me.

He's the best. Deal with it.


I don't hate him. I just want him to lose a time or two.
 
2012-09-23 12:47:36 AM

FireZs: Klippoklondike: He's the best fighter and also a worthless piece of shiat of a human being.

For what, being cocky? Drinking and driving? I'm curious what the worst thing he's done is.


Add me to that list. What has he done to make him a worthless piece of shiat?
 
2012-09-23 12:47:47 AM

Ham Sandvich: LegacyDL: Jones can win as many fights as he can but he doesn't show any heart as a fighter.

He doesn't have to if no one can pressure him.


I thought he showed some heart fighting through that arm-bar.
 
2012-09-23 12:47:59 AM

libranoelrose: violentsalvation: I guess Dana is still pissed and didn't want to put the belt on him.

Something about a poker winner getting to put the belt on the winner.



Convenient.
 
2012-09-23 12:48:17 AM
So who can beat Jones?
 
2012-09-23 12:48:22 AM
No prelims?
 
2012-09-23 12:48:31 AM
That right arm is starting to hurt now, I think it probably is broken
 
2012-09-23 12:49:02 AM

cookiefleck: So who can beat Jones?


A telephone pole came close.
 
2012-09-23 12:49:04 AM

cookiefleck: So who can beat Jones?


heavyweights. It's the weight class he belongs in anyway, though he'd still beat most of them at least he'd be challenged
 
2012-09-23 12:49:07 AM

cookiefleck: So who can beat Jones?


Nick Diaz

the fire is lit, now to run away giggling
 
2012-09-23 12:49:31 AM

libranoelrose: LegacyDL: Jones can win as many fights as he can but he doesn't show any heart as a fighter.

He just went 3 rounds with a dislocated elbow, what do you mean?


In other words he doesn't have that "any fight, anywhere" mentality that I think champions and fighters should have, he's cold and calculating when he has his matches and for the most part it seems almost routine. Maybe it's his opponents, but I think Jones needs a fight where he knows he's gonna be in for a tough night not a fight where his elbows will come to the rescue.
 
2012-09-23 12:50:24 AM

Klippoklondike: cookiefleck: So who can beat Jones?

heavyweights. It's the weight class he belongs in anyway, though he'd still beat most of them at least he'd be challenged


Why does he "belong" there? You sound white.
 
2012-09-23 12:50:25 AM

LegacyDL: Jones can win as many fights as he can but he doesn't show any heart as a fighter.


Jones is a farking awesome fighter and a farking hell of a human being. If you don't get that, it's your loss.
 
2012-09-23 12:50:27 AM

Klippoklondike: cookiefleck: So who can beat Jones?

heavyweights. It's the weight class he belongs in anyway, though he'd still beat most of them at least he'd be challenged


He will never be a heavyweight with those chicken legs.
 
2012-09-23 12:50:57 AM

cookiefleck: So who can beat Jones?


Junior Dos Santos?
 
2012-09-23 12:51:08 AM

ongbok: FireZs: Klippoklondike: He's the best fighter and also a worthless piece of shiat of a human being.

For what, being cocky? Drinking and driving? I'm curious what the worst thing he's done is.

Add me to that list. What has he done to make him a worthless piece of shiat?


I keep hearing that he's "fake", like he's trying to be something that he isn't. I don't really see it. He gives shiatty interviews and is vaguely philosophical, but he's under Greg Jackson so that comes with the territory.
 
2012-09-23 12:52:35 AM

NorCalLos: Klippoklondike: cookiefleck: So who can beat Jones?

heavyweights. It's the weight class he belongs in anyway, though he'd still beat most of them at least he'd be challenged

Why does he "belong" there? You sound white.


He's huge, that's why. And he has the longest reach in the entire UFC. If Fedor can be legendary at 235 pounds, Jones can successful at that weight as well since that about what he'd weigh if he didn't need a weight cut.

And what the hell does being white have anything to do with anything?
 
2012-09-23 12:52:42 AM

cookiefleck: So who can beat Jones?


http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/9/14/3325592/killing-the-king-jon-jon e s-UFC-152

That's not an answer so much as one guy's hypothetical gameplan.
 
2012-09-23 12:53:00 AM

LegacyDL: In other words he doesn't have that "any fight, anywhere" mentality that I think champions and fighters should have, he's cold and calculating when he has his matches and for the most part it seems almost routine. Maybe it's his opponents, but I think Jones needs a fight where he knows he's gonna be in for a tough night not a fight where his elbows will come to the rescue.


I expect that you feel the same about GSP?
 
2012-09-23 12:53:19 AM

ongbok: FireZs: Klippoklondike: He's the best fighter and also a worthless piece of shiat of a human being.

For what, being cocky? Drinking and driving? I'm curious what the worst thing he's done is.

Add me to that list. What has he done to make him a worthless piece of shiat?


I don't see how someone can hate Jones, he is a class guy that's just talented as hell. I want someone to beat him but damn I have a hard time hating him.
 
2012-09-23 12:54:01 AM

LegacyDL: libranoelrose: LegacyDL: Jones can win as many fights as he can but he doesn't show any heart as a fighter.

He just went 3 rounds with a dislocated elbow, what do you mean?

In other words he doesn't have that "any fight, anywhere" mentality that I think champions and fighters should have, he's cold and calculating when he has his matches and for the most part it seems almost routine. Maybe it's his opponents, but I think Jones needs a fight where he knows he's gonna be in for a tough night not a fight where his elbows will come to the rescue.


I honestly don't have any idea what you just said.

No offense.
 
2012-09-23 12:54:43 AM

mikeray: ongbok: FireZs: Klippoklondike: He's the best fighter and also a worthless piece of shiat of a human being.

For what, being cocky? Drinking and driving? I'm curious what the worst thing he's done is.

Add me to that list. What has he done to make him a worthless piece of shiat?

I don't see how someone can hate Jones, he is a class guy that's just talented as hell. I want someone to beat him but damn I have a hard time hating him.


That's something people will never agree on. I don't find him classy, you do, we'll never agree. I do agree he's a phenomenal fighter.
 
2012-09-23 12:54:47 AM
I think people just hate Jones because a) he's good/haters gonna hate; and c) he's "bigger" than everyone else in his weight class. It's just like how people used to hate on Shaq: "I'd be NBA MVP if I was 7'-1" and 300 lbs."

All in all, a good night of fights and pleasantly surprising main event.
 
2012-09-23 12:55:04 AM

cookiefleck: So who can beat Jones?


Time will beat him. It's hard to say who will be standing there when it happens.
 
2012-09-23 12:55:39 AM
i798.photobucket.com 

None of us did all that fantastic but congrats to Carlos and blasto for coming in first place, good picks.
 
2012-09-23 12:56:42 AM

trippdogg: LegacyDL: Jones can win as many fights as he can but he doesn't show any heart as a fighter.

Jones is a farking awesome fighter and a farking hell of a human being. If you don't get that, it's your loss.


I'm not saying he's a bad fighter or a bad human being. It's just that since he refused to fight Sonnen I look at him differently now. On one hand you have a guy who says "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face" and on the next hand you have a guy who refused to fight because 3 days wasn't enough time to train.

Just boggles my mind, if you claim that as a fighter you adapt to any situation combined with the fact that you are both champion and obviously in good shape then a fight is a fight (Not that I'm saying Sonnen would have beat him or anything, but it's the principle that counts).
 
2012-09-23 12:56:46 AM

ongbok: FireZs: Klippoklondike: He's the best fighter and also a worthless piece of shiat of a human being.

For what, being cocky? Drinking and driving? I'm curious what the worst thing he's done is.

Add me to that list. What has he done to make him a worthless piece of shiat?


ongbok: FireZs: Klippoklondike: He's the best fighter and also a worthless piece of shiat of a human being.

For what, being cocky? Drinking and driving? I'm curious what the worst thing he's done is.

Add me to that list. What has he done to make him a worthless piece of shiat?


He probably lost Klippoklondiker money. Nothing like seeing a guy bet on sports and witnessing his rage firsthand in the following hours after losing.
 
2012-09-23 12:56:48 AM
The whole rashad Evans saga kinda made him look bad.. it made me appreciate rampage, somehow.

/that and pulling a Lindsay Lohan and drunkenly driving into a pole
 
2012-09-23 12:56:50 AM

Klippoklondike: NorCalLos: Klippoklondike: cookiefleck: So who can beat Jones?

heavyweights. It's the weight class he belongs in anyway, though he'd still beat most of them at least he'd be challenged

Why does he "belong" there? You sound white.

He's huge, that's why. And he has the longest reach in the entire UFC. If Fedor can be legendary at 235 pounds, Jones can successful at that weight as well since that about what he'd weigh if he didn't need a weight cut.

And what the hell does being white have anything to do with anything?


You do realize just because you weight a certain amount doesn't mean that you will be successful at fighting at that weight? Nobody fights in the weight class that they would be in at their walk around weight. It is just stupid to suggest that because somebody walks around at one weight, that they should fight at that weight.
 
2012-09-23 12:57:01 AM

Klippoklondike: And what the hell does being white have anything to do with anything?


I was mostly joking, but I do think it takes a certain sense of white entitlement for you to think it's your job to decide where another man belongs, particularly a black man. Where does Stefan Struve belong?
 
2012-09-23 12:57:59 AM

Klippoklondike: mikeray: ongbok: FireZs: Klippoklondike: He's the best fighter and also a worthless piece of shiat of a human being.

For what, being cocky? Drinking and driving? I'm curious what the worst thing he's done is.

Add me to that list. What has he done to make him a worthless piece of shiat?

I don't see how someone can hate Jones, he is a class guy that's just talented as hell. I want someone to beat him but damn I have a hard time hating him.

That's something people will never agree on. I don't find him classy, you do, we'll never agree. I do agree he's a phenomenal fighter.


I agree that we will never agree but can't we all just hate Steve Spurrier and call it night.
 
2012-09-23 12:58:34 AM

Testiclaw: GavinTheAlmighty: He's the best. Deal with it.

He's a wicked fighter.

But I still hate him and think he's a piece of shiat who should die in a fire.

But yes, the best LHW currently.


Why is he such a horrible human being? Because he wouldn't take a fight on 8 days notice? Is that the measuring stick now for human decency?

What about the time he ran down that mugger and beat the shiat out of him? That's overruled by not taking a fight on 8 days notice?
 
2012-09-23 12:58:42 AM

violentsalvation: [i798.photobucket.com image 609x433] 

None of us did all that fantastic but congrats to Carlos and blasto for coming in first place, good picks.


It's been a while since I've had my predictions turn out that shiatty.
 
2012-09-23 12:58:56 AM
http://www.tapology.com/profiles/flragnararch/predictions/13140-ufc-15 2

Not too shabby at the end there. Missed the sub by 54 seconds.
 
2012-09-23 12:59:18 AM

ongbok: Klippoklondike: NorCalLos: Klippoklondike: cookiefleck: So who can beat Jones?

heavyweights. It's the weight class he belongs in anyway, though he'd still beat most of them at least he'd be challenged

Why does he "belong" there? You sound white.

He's huge, that's why. And he has the longest reach in the entire UFC. If Fedor can be legendary at 235 pounds, Jones can successful at that weight as well since that about what he'd weigh if he didn't need a weight cut.

And what the hell does being white have anything to do with anything?

You do realize just because you weight a certain amount doesn't mean that you will be successful at fighting at that weight? Nobody fights in the weight class that they would be in at their walk around weight. It is just stupid to suggest that because somebody walks around at one weight, that they should fight at that weight.


Fedor fought at 235, Cro Cop fought at 235, Cain fights at 240. Jones can put on 5 pounds and fight at 235. He's already got a longer reach than everyone other than 6'11" Stefan Struve. I'm not saying he should've started at heavyweight, but it is time to move there now. Who else would you have him fight? What is left at 205 for him? he's already beaten everyone. If he wants to be the greatest of all time like he says then he has to continue getting challenged and that ain't going to happen at LHW.
 
2012-09-23 12:59:48 AM
cookiefleck: So who can beat Jones?

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2012-09-23 01:00:21 AM

NorCalLos: Klippoklondike: And what the hell does being white have anything to do with anything?

I was mostly joking, but I do think it takes a certain sense of white entitlement for you to think it's your job to decide where another man belongs, particularly a black man. Where does Stefan Struve belong?


Struve weighs 260 pounds...so, are you serious or trolling?
 
2012-09-23 01:02:12 AM

LegacyDL: libranoelrose: LegacyDL: Jones can win as many fights as he can but he doesn't show any heart as a fighter.

He just went 3 rounds with a dislocated elbow, what do you mean?

In other words he doesn't have that "any fight, anywhere" mentality that I think champions and fighters should have, he's cold and calculating when he has his matches and for the most part it seems almost routine. Maybe it's his opponents, but I think Jones needs a fight where he knows he's gonna be in for a tough night not a fight where his elbows will come to the rescue.


Fighting Shogun, Rashad, Rampage, Machida, and Bader isn't good enough? He makes great fighters look like chumps. That's a testament to how amazing he is, not that he carefully chooses opponents.
 
2012-09-23 01:02:30 AM

Klippoklondike: Fedor fought at 235, Cro Cop fought at 235, Cain fights at 240. Jones can put on 5 pounds and fight at 235. He's already got a longer reach than everyone other than 6'11" Stefan Struve. I'm not saying he should've started at heavyweight, but it is time to move there now. Who else would you have him fight? What is left at 205 for him? he's already beaten everyone. If he wants to be the greatest of all time like he says then he has to continue getting challenged and that ain't going to happen at LHW.


This makes no sense. If he wants to be the best of all time, he has to fight guys who can't make the same weight class he can? You can't blame him for there not being anyone in his weight class who can beat him. I think it's funny, too, how Dana always says "I hate seeing guys fight out of their weight class" when it's convenient for him.
 
2012-09-23 01:02:41 AM

Klippoklondike: ongbok: Klippoklondike: NorCalLos: Klippoklondike: cookiefleck: So who can beat Jones?

heavyweights. It's the weight class he belongs in anyway, though he'd still beat most of them at least he'd be challenged

Why does he "belong" there? You sound white.

He's huge, that's why. And he has the longest reach in the entire UFC. If Fedor can be legendary at 235 pounds, Jones can successful at that weight as well since that about what he'd weigh if he didn't need a weight cut.

And what the hell does being white have anything to do with anything?

You do realize just because you weight a certain amount doesn't mean that you will be successful at fighting at that weight? Nobody fights in the weight class that they would be in at their walk around weight. It is just stupid to suggest that because somebody walks around at one weight, that they should fight at that weight.

Fedor fought at 235, Cro Cop fought at 235, Cain fights at 240. Jones can put on 5 pounds and fight at 235. He's already got a longer reach than everyone other than 6'11" Stefan Struve. I'm not saying he should've started at heavyweight, but it is time to move there now. Who else would you have him fight? What is left at 205 for him? he's already beaten everyone. If he wants to be the greatest of all time like he says then he has to continue getting challenged and that ain't going to happen at LHW.


Did you say the same about Rampage, Ortiz or Liddel? And why didn't they move up? It is probably because they knew they wouldn't be successful fighting at that weight. Newsflash, fighters know what weight they fight best at and will stick with that weight.
 
2012-09-23 01:03:14 AM
so we know jones isn't getting sotn because 151 fiasco, so vinny sotn swanson ko, dunham Grant fotn.
 
2012-09-23 01:03:30 AM
lol @ "white entitlement" this irony is delicious
 
2012-09-23 01:03:59 AM

Klippoklondike: NorCalLos: Klippoklondike: And what the hell does being white have anything to do with anything?

I was mostly joking, but I do think it takes a certain sense of white entitlement for you to think it's your job to decide where another man belongs, particularly a black man. Where does Stefan Struve belong?

Struve weighs 260 pounds...so, are you serious or trolling?


So, why doesn't he just put on five pounds and be forced to not fight anyone? Because he isn't better than everyone in his weight class?
 
2012-09-23 01:04:06 AM

CreativeFarkHandle: violentsalvation: [i798.photobucket.com image 609x433] 

None of us did all that fantastic but congrats to Carlos and blasto for coming in first place, good picks.

It's been a while since I've had my predictions turn out that shiatty.


Yeah, I've been in a kinda shiatty slump myself, I guess it just happens sometimes. You usually pick really well.
 
2012-09-23 01:05:36 AM

NorCalLos: Klippoklondike: NorCalLos: Klippoklondike: And what the hell does being white have anything to do with anything?

I was mostly joking, but I do think it takes a certain sense of white entitlement for you to think it's your job to decide where another man belongs, particularly a black man. Where does Stefan Struve belong?

Struve weighs 260 pounds...so, are you serious or trolling?

So, why doesn't he just put on five pounds and be forced to not fight anyone? Because he isn't better than everyone in his weight class?


Lol. You make absolutely no sense. It is like talking to a brick wall. I am done. Have a good night.
 
2012-09-23 01:06:36 AM

Klippoklondike: NorCalLos: Klippoklondike: NorCalLos: Klippoklondike: And what the hell does being white have anything to do with anything?

I was mostly joking, but I do think it takes a certain sense of white entitlement for you to think it's your job to decide where another man belongs, particularly a black man. Where does Stefan Struve belong?

Struve weighs 260 pounds...so, are you serious or trolling?

So, why doesn't he just put on five pounds and be forced to not fight anyone? Because he isn't better than everyone in his weight class?

Lol. You make absolutely no sense. It is like talking to a brick wall. I am done. Have a good night.


I make no sense because I'm using YOUR argument.
 
2012-09-23 01:07:03 AM
This thread is going full sherdog.

press conference link
and on facebook
 
2012-09-23 01:07:48 AM

violentsalvation: This thread is going full sherdog.

press conference link
and on facebook


Yeah, sorry, I gotta stop replying to the trolls. My picks sucked tonight though.
 
2012-09-23 01:08:23 AM
Alright folks, it's been real. See ya next week.
 
2012-09-23 01:10:21 AM

violentsalvation: This thread is going full sherdog.

press conference link
and on facebook


Sheerdog is the/b/ of martial arts discussion


Pistols at dawn, sir.
 
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