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(CNN)   Brian Wilson can't understand why Mike Love doesn't want to tour with him as the real Beach Boys instead of playing county fairs and singing Kokomo for the 50,000th time   (cnn.com) divider line 41
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2012-09-22 07:27:35 AM  
I saw them on the 50th tour and they put on a good show for a bunch of old dudes, but Mike Love was the epitome of the embarrassing old uncle at the family picnic and he spent every break between songs shilling for merchandise.
 
2012-09-22 08:31:37 AM  
Love the Beach Boys music. More specifically, Brian Wilson's music. Pet Sounds is my favorite album of all time - it's flawless to me; it is musical perfection.

I saw Brian Wilson perform a year ago and his backing band was absolutely outstanding. Wilson looked a little out of it, but I expected that anyways. He sounded good and it was a very memorable show.

I skipped out on this 50th Anniversary Tour though and I've never given a dime to Mike Love's bastardization of "The Beach Boys." He is the absolute worst.
 
2012-09-22 09:11:12 AM  

DontBeSoDigital: Love the Beach Boys music. More specifically, Brian Wilson's music. Pet Sounds is my favorite album of all time - it's flawless to me; it is musical perfection.

I saw Brian Wilson perform a year ago and his backing band was absolutely outstanding. Wilson looked a little out of it, but I expected that anyways. He sounded good and it was a very memorable show.

I skipped out on this 50th Anniversary Tour though and I've never given a dime to Mike Love's bastardization of "The Beach Boys." He is the absolute worst.


They managed to capture the only times he has ever sung on key on the recordings. He is Anthony Kiedis. He is Stephen Jenkins. He blows live.

And he's a farking clown.

I saw Brian Wilson ten years ago. He was great, and his band was stunning.
 
2012-09-22 09:24:20 AM  
mike love, 1966: "pet sounds sucks. i don't get it."
mike love, 2012: "pet sounds was my idea."

fark you, mike.
 
2012-09-22 09:47:57 AM  
Saw them at Bonnaroo this year.

Mike Love is awkward, embarrassing, and awkwardly embarrassing. If he wants credit as the workhorse, then fine. But that doesn't mean what he's done all these years is a good thing.
 
2012-09-22 10:13:16 AM  
Interesting that I have never read anything complimentary about Mike Love. Ever. 

//at least as a person
///sings alright, though
 
2012-09-22 11:23:59 AM  
Brian wilson is a musical juggernaut. I'm a metal head and old school gangsta rap lover.. And I love his music..he can just flat out write. Guy is without equal in terms of knowing how to make cohesion out of a bunch of elements and make a grand song. Check this out.

Link
 
2012-09-22 11:58:44 AM  
Saw Brian touring with his own band, and it sounded better than the last six Beach Boys concerts I attended. Mike is a douche, apparently always has been. I have no opinion on Jardine, but if you offer me two alleged Beach Boys experiences, I will always go with whichever one has Brian. He's the American Mozart of his time.
 
2012-09-22 12:01:28 PM  
Oh look, a Mike Love hatred thread. How original.

And completely awesome!

Mike Love is a piece of shiat. Brian Wilson is a modern day Mozart and Mike Love is the peasant who is barely worthy to clean his chamber pot.
 
2012-09-22 12:30:59 PM  
why would Wilson want Mike Love on the same tour as him anyway? I thought Mike tried to sue Wilson and the other Beach Boys and stuff.


/drove downtown in the rain, 9:30 on a tuesday night. just to check out the late night record shop
 
2012-09-22 12:54:06 PM  

DontBeSoDigital: Love the Beach Boys music. More specifically, Brian Wilson's music. Pet Sounds is my favorite album of all time - it's flawless to me; it is musical perfection.

I saw Brian Wilson perform a year ago and his backing band was absolutely outstanding. Wilson looked a little out of it, but I expected that anyways. He sounded good and it was a very memorable show.

I skipped out on this 50th Anniversary Tour though and I've never given a dime to Mike Love's bastardization of "The Beach Boys." He is the absolute worst.


Brian is lucky to be onstage at all. He fried his brain out on LSD and who knows what else and literally turned into a raving lunatic and then had a total douchebag for a doctor who had him on who knows what kind of pysch meds (I think Brian even received some EST). The doc had Brian under his complete control, to the point where he had Brian sign all of his publishing royalties over to him, took the family years to get them back. At one time, Brian used to wrap his head with aluminum foil because he believed Paul McCartney was somehow reading his brain and stealing his song ideas; it turned into a competition between Brian, The Beatles and The Stones in Brian's mind. He lived in a tent next to his pool for a year living on candy bars and masturbation.

Nick Kent wrote a great piece about Brian, it's in his book "The Dark Stuff." Possibly one of the best things ever written regarding a rock/pop superstar.
 
2012-09-22 01:13:59 PM  
Could anyone explain wtf is going on in this thread? Beach Boys...hate? I don't understand...Born in 83 so way before my time, and the BB were always just that nice sounding band in the background a few times.

And anyone recommend any of their songs to learn to play? Something fun to play, and medium difficulty?
 
2012-09-22 01:18:00 PM  
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Seriously depressing book.

Also, fark Mike Love. He's the worst.
 
2012-09-22 01:39:46 PM  
Mike Love is a douchebag with a nice voice.

Brian Wilson wrote what might be the greatest pop song in the history of modern music not to mention he is lucky to be alive, much less performing as a functioning, touring musician.
 
2012-09-22 01:41:11 PM  
Not sure why I linked to the song's wikipedia page.

actual song
 
2012-09-22 01:48:01 PM  

kroonermanblack: Could anyone explain wtf is going on in this thread? Beach Boys...hate? I don't understand...Born in 83 so way before my time, and the BB were always just that nice sounding band in the background a few times.

And anyone recommend any of their songs to learn to play? Something fun to play, and medium difficulty?


No, Mike Love's Beach Boys hate... big difference.
 
2012-09-22 01:48:44 PM  

kroonermanblack: Could anyone explain wtf is going on in this thread? Beach Boys...hate? I don't understand...Born in 83 so way before my time, and the BB were always just that nice sounding band in the background a few times.

And anyone recommend any of their songs to learn to play? Something fun to play, and medium difficulty?


Here's a place to start.

Had difficulty finding a "simple 3 chord song", so good luck there.
 
2012-09-22 01:53:35 PM  
Could anyone explain wtf is going on in this thread? Beach Boys...hate? I don't understand...Born in 83 so way before my time, and the BB were always just that nice sounding band in the background a few times.

Brian Wilson, the main composer for the Beach Boys in their original incarnation, was easily the equal of Lennon/McCartney in terms of raw musical ability. However, his career was derailed by serious mental problems beginning in the late 1960s. The band was subsequently taken over by vastly less talented people, which is why we don't hear many post-1970ish Beach Boys songs on the radio other than 'Kokomo.' Don't know if it's still in print, but the book 'Heroes and Villains' is a great biography.

/Born in 73 and I can still remember my father playing 'In My Room' on the stereo when I was a toddler -- that song is a farking masterpiece
 
2012-09-22 02:11:55 PM  
If Wilson had a writing composing partner equal to him they way McCartney had Lennon, the world would have been blessed with so much more amazing music. There would be an actual debate about who was the greatest band of all time. That Wilson was able to do Pet Sounds, basically by himself, is a testament to the man's genius. And that Mike Love didn't "get it" is testament to his idiocy.

Sadly, Wilson had no partner, and he had mental illness long before he fried his brain on drugs and quack psychotherapy.

With a clear mind and a similar genius to bounce ideas off? Good Lord what could have been.
 
2012-09-22 02:31:32 PM  

Skeptos: Could anyone explain wtf is going on in this thread? Beach Boys...hate? I don't understand...Born in 83 so way before my time, and the BB were always just that nice sounding band in the background a few times.

Brian Wilson, the main composer for the Beach Boys in their original incarnation, was easily the equal of Lennon/McCartney in terms of raw musical ability. However, his career was derailed by serious mental problems beginning in the late 1960s. The band was subsequently taken over by vastly less talented people, which is why we don't hear many post-1970ish Beach Boys songs on the radio other than 'Kokomo.' Don't know if it's still in print, but the book 'Heroes and Villains' is a great biography.

/Born in 73 and I can still remember my father playing 'In My Room' on the stereo when I was a toddler -- that song is a farking masterpiece


Agreed. IMR is horribly underrated.
 
2012-09-22 02:39:36 PM  
vibrations

Just watched this and smiled and wept at the same time. So great to see BW realize his talents onstage after all the crap he went through. Mike Love shouldn't even be a part of the conversation....
 
2012-09-22 02:46:07 PM  
I guess Mike & Bruce prefer the county fair and Walmart parking lot circuit.

Screw the 50th Anniversary. Brian played all of Pet Sounds with his band and Al Jardine a few years ago - those were the shows to see.
 
2012-09-22 02:50:00 PM  
Come on, Brian Wilson is overrated. All of their albums before Pet Sounds consisted of about 50% filler that was pure crap! If Mike Love is so bad, why is he co-credited on most of their hits?
 
2012-09-22 03:05:08 PM  

E_Henry_Thripshaws_Disease: Come on, Brian Wilson is overrated. All of their albums before Pet Sounds consisted of about 50% filler that was pure crap! If Mike Love is so bad, why is he co-credited on most of their hits?


Guess Who was the main writer on most of the filler.

Saw Brian and his band (Wondermints?) play Pet Sounds a few years ago, awesome. Jardin was with them. also, where's the love for Van Dyke Parks' lyrics?
 
2012-09-22 05:44:54 PM  

Snapper Carr: Not sure why I linked to the song's wikipedia page.

actual song


I don't dislike that song but have never understood why it's considered to be so great. Even Paul McCartney said it's one of the best songs ever written. It just never did much for me. I always found "That's Not Me" and "I Just Wasn't Made for These Times" from the same album much cooler. Ah, well.

/Al Jardine is my second cousin
//he's the only one not related to someone else in the group
 
2012-09-22 06:12:33 PM  
"All five members -- Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine, Bruce Johnston and David Marks -"

Should have been phrased the "5 surviving members" . And Marks was only a member for a year.

And for the first time, I'll use this tired phrase. the Beach Boys died with Carl Wilson.

Link
 
2012-09-22 06:14:02 PM  
P.S., See how useless Mike Love is in that video
 
2012-09-22 06:19:37 PM  
If Brian Wilson isn't there, it ain't the Beach Boys. It's that farking simple. Mike Love would be not be as well-known and earning money like he is without Brian Wilson.
 
2012-09-22 06:50:07 PM  

Ebenator: [img.photobucket.com image 300x300]
Seriously depressing book.

Also, fark Mike Love. He's the worst.


Every page of this book I read I kept thinking, "WOW is this guy screwed up or what?" I kept reading because I could not believe he could get more screwed up and every page proved me wrong. Saddest of all was when he did not recognize his own daughters who came to see him backstage at a concert.

He has got to be one of the most used and abused talents ever in all of music. I am glad he is back on top and doing well, he is really very gifted.

And yes, Mike Love is a major A-Hole, always was, always will be. 

Side Note: Back in the 80's I met Jan & Dean, they were very cool. Had breakfast (3:00 a.m.) with their back-up band and they were also very cool.
 
2012-09-22 06:53:07 PM  

hbk72777: P.S., See how useless Mike Love is in that video


wow. useless is an understatement.
 
2012-09-22 07:19:49 PM  
In the late 70's my ex was in a band that toured as the opening act for the Beach Boys. He said Mike Love was one of the biggest asswipes he's ever met. Brian Wilson was so out of it that he had to wear adult diapers and play a color-coded keyboard.
 
2012-09-22 08:33:43 PM  
The Beach Boys christmas songs are terrible. Whichever band member was responsible for that crap should be hung.
 
2012-09-22 08:40:33 PM  
Love is well-known as one of the biggest arseholes in the music biz. Brian has come back from mental illness and drug abuse, can still pen a decent tune and put together a band that can recreate his songs in a live setting. .While working for an attorney service, I had to go to Wilson's home to have him sign away his publishing to his dad. He was a mess. Just the fact that he has bounced back still amazes me. Did the same with Love, he was at a 4 star hotel in Westwood, having breakfast. While he's signing, I'm thinking , so, thanks to the musical vision of Brian, Dennis and Carl, you get to drink that $6 orange juice,,,
 
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2012-09-22 10:15:31 PM  

Snapper Carr: Not sure why I linked to the song's wikipedia page.

actual song


God only knows
 
2012-09-22 10:16:32 PM  

peewinkle: He lived in a tent next to his pool for a year living on candy bars and masturbation.


I wonder was his Fark handle is?
 
2012-09-23 01:17:59 AM  
One of my favorite Brian Wilson moments

Link

He had written Don't Worry Baby for Ronnie Spector and she finally got around to recording a version produced by Joey Ramone on her 1999 album
 
2012-09-23 02:42:37 AM  
The Beach Boys died when that bus crushed Cliff Burton....everything after Master of Puppets is a farce.

Kokomo is my absolute favorite Beach Boys song and I love when Mike Love brings John Stamos on stage as a full fledged member of the Beach Boys....that is awesomely cool.
 
2012-09-23 04:23:55 AM  
The expences of combining Brian's and Mike's bands for the 50th anniversary tour were astronomical. Every reunion band tour lasting more than a year has had to drop admission prices dramatically for the second year. Love, Wilson, and Jardine each make more money touring with separate bands. They love the huge crowds but only Love seems to realize that the money will stop flowing soon. When I worked with Mike and Brian in 1967 both had love and respect for each other. Mental illness and drugs drove them apart. Carl was the only one who wasn't a major snob of the entire group; he ignored most everything the rest did.
 
2012-09-23 08:05:25 AM  
The only good thing Mike Love ever did was winning a piece of the genetic lottery, being a first cousin of Brian Wilson. The world would have otherwise never heard of him, other than in a police report for assaulting his 5th or 6th wife with a whiskey bottle. A complete a-hole of the highest order.
 
2012-09-25 09:29:36 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I saw them on the 50th tour and they put on a good show for a bunch of old dudes, but Mike Love was the epitome of the embarrassing old uncle at the family picnic and he spent every break between songs shilling for merchandise.


I would have more respect for them if they didn't have several hundred extra musicians on stage with them. Can't they play their own instruments? Also, maybe it's about time for a name change. They're hardly boys anymore. The Beach Geezers fits though.
 
2012-09-25 09:34:27 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: If Wilson had a writing composing partner equal to him they way McCartney had Lennon, the world would have been blessed with so much more amazing music. There would be an actual debate about who was the greatest band of all time. That Wilson was able to do Pet Sounds, basically by himself, is a testament to the man's genius. And that Mike Love didn't "get it" is testament to his idiocy.

Sadly, Wilson had no partner, and he had mental illness long before he fried his brain on drugs and quack psychotherapy.

With a clear mind and a similar genius to bounce ideas off? Good Lord what could have been.


He did a lot of his best work with Van Dyke Parks.
 
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