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(Foss Patents)   Not content with $250 million per curved corner, Apple would like another $700 million because Samsung uses the letter A and just give us more damned money   (fosspatents.com) divider line 112
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2012-09-22 05:12:36 AM  
Cry those bitter tears, little Fandroid. It seems like the more you sob, the more iPhones they sell.
 
2012-09-22 06:49:25 AM  
After this shiat, I'm never buying a product from Apple.

Ever.
 
2012-09-22 06:50:45 AM  

bingethinker: It seems like the more you sob, the more iPhones they sell.


If they keep releasing the same phone just with different packaging that's not gonna last long.
 
2012-09-22 06:51:32 AM  
Megabillionarie problems.
 
2012-09-22 06:53:56 AM  
BTW Apple has to first hope everything survives the inevitable appeals, which given a few things the jury admitted and other factors, is not entirely likely. Also someone have the people at Apple read up on the history of the Wright Brothers and then Glenn Curtiss.
 
2012-09-22 07:06:05 AM  

WhyteRaven74: bingethinker: It seems like the more you sob, the more iPhones they sell.

If they keep releasing the same phone just with different packaging that's not gonna last long.


Oh, I don't know. They'll probably buy it anyway.
 
2012-09-22 07:38:00 AM  

WhyteRaven74: BTW Apple has to first hope everything survives the inevitable appeals, which given a few things the jury admitted and other factors, is not entirely likely. Also someone have the people at Apple read up on the history of the Wright Brothers and then Glenn Curtiss.


They are asking for 700 million more dollars because it's their only chance left to make money before their company goes to shiat without jobs at the helm.

/iOS maps is proof that the Apple ship is already starting to list quite badly.
 
2012-09-22 07:39:17 AM  
I wonder if any of those are for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE, the phone that the jury found did not infringe any patents, and then awarded damages for patent infringement on anyway.
 
2012-09-22 07:40:51 AM  
Tablet, rather than phone, my bad. It's all a difference in scale these days with you kids and your gizmos.
 
2012-09-22 07:49:48 AM  
I'm sure that America having a substantively different environment of IP and patent law from the rest of the world will work out just dandy.
 
2012-09-22 07:51:29 AM  
I'm pretty sure no one is actually going to read that article.
 
2012-09-22 07:51:45 AM  

bingethinker: Cry those bitter tears, little Fandroid. It seems like the more you sob, the more iPhones they sell.


yawn
 
2012-09-22 08:10:08 AM  

fluffy2097: /iOS maps is proof that the Apple ship is already starting to list quite badly.


One app is the proof? Wow. You'd be a really sh*tty judge.
 
2012-09-22 08:14:39 AM  

NewportBarGuy: fluffy2097: /iOS maps is proof that the Apple ship is already starting to list quite badly.

One app is the proof? Wow. You'd be a really sh*tty judge.


You think Jobs would have let a steaming pile of shiat like that be released? That he'd let his sleek magical device be paired with a giant splatter of diarrhea? Don't make me laugh.

Steve Jobs hired a ton of talented assholes to do his work. He was very good at keeping them in line. Without him to keep them in line, they are already going off the rails, pursuing their own interests and pet projects, and shoehorning them into production without the same level of testing Jobs would demand.
 
2012-09-22 08:15:58 AM  

bingethinker: Cry those bitter tears, little Fandroid. It seems like the more you sob, the more iPhones they sell.


Not that I give a damn about brand names or loyalties, but I'm pretty sure Samsung makes the Galaxy. The Android is Motorola, I think.
 
2012-09-22 08:21:14 AM  

Tommy Moo: bingethinker: Cry those bitter tears, little Fandroid. It seems like the more you sob, the more iPhones they sell.

Not that I give a damn about brand names or loyalties, but I'm pretty sure Samsung makes the Galaxy. The Android is Motorola, I think.


Android is the software (made by Google), Samsung and Motorola make the hardware.
 
2012-09-22 08:22:18 AM  

Tommy Moo: bingethinker: Cry those bitter tears, little Fandroid. It seems like the more you sob, the more iPhones they sell.

Not that I give a damn about brand names or loyalties, but I'm pretty sure Samsung makes the Galaxy. The Android is Motorola, I think.


Motorola makes the Droid, "Android" is the name of the OS that runs on all them though, developed by Google.
 
2012-09-22 08:23:34 AM  

Tommy Moo: bingethinker: Cry those bitter tears, little Fandroid. It seems like the more you sob, the more iPhones they sell.

Not that I give a damn about brand names or loyalties, but I'm pretty sure Samsung makes the Galaxy. The Android is Motorola, I think.


Yeas, but Samsung doesn't run Android, which was made by google, it runs Fandroid, based a free AppStore made available erroneously for 22.45 mins whilst Jobs was enroute to the gym. The rest is browser history.
 
2012-09-22 08:36:31 AM  

tedbundee: Tommy Moo: bingethinker: Cry those bitter tears, little Fandroid. It seems like the more you sob, the more iPhones they sell.

Not that I give a damn about brand names or loyalties, but I'm pretty sure Samsung makes the Galaxy. The Android is Motorola, I think.

Android is the software (made by Google), Samsung and Motorola make the hardware.


ReverendJasen: Tommy Moo: bingethinker: Cry those bitter tears, little Fandroid. It seems like the more you sob, the more iPhones they sell.

Not that I give a damn about brand names or loyalties, but I'm pretty sure Samsung makes the Galaxy. The Android is Motorola, I think.

Motorola makes the Droid, "Android" is the name of the OS that runs on all them though, developed by Google.


uttertosh: Tommy Moo: bingethinker: Cry those bitter tears, little Fandroid. It seems like the more you sob, the more iPhones they sell.

Not that I give a damn about brand names or loyalties, but I'm pretty sure Samsung makes the Galaxy. The Android is Motorola, I think.

Yeas, but Samsung doesn't run Android, which was made by google, it runs Fandroid, based a free AppStore made available erroneously for 22.45 mins whilst Jobs was enroute to the gym. The rest is browser history.


Well... I guess that shut me up!
 
2012-09-22 08:40:03 AM  
Wow.. Apple fans are more androids than Android is.
 
2012-09-22 08:40:54 AM  
fark you, Apple.
 
2012-09-22 08:46:39 AM  

fluffy2097: NewportBarGuy: fluffy2097: /iOS maps is proof that the Apple ship is already starting to list quite badly.

One app is the proof? Wow. You'd be a really sh*tty judge.

You think Jobs would have let a steaming pile of shiat like that be released? That he'd let his sleek magical device be paired with a giant splatter of diarrhea? Don't make me laugh.

Steve Jobs hired a ton of talented assholes to do his work. He was very good at keeping them in line. Without him to keep them in line, they are already going off the rails, pursuing their own interests and pet projects, and shoehorning them into production without the same level of testing Jobs would demand.


You think Steve Jobs would let a phone be released that would not function as a phone if you held it like a phone?

He would?

Never mind.
 
2012-09-22 09:15:46 AM  

Kiribub: WhyteRaven74: bingethinker: It seems like the more you sob, the more iPhones they sell.

If they keep releasing the same phone just with different packaging that's not gonna last long.

Oh, I don't know. They'll probably buy it anyway.


That is exactly how I imagined people would be...
 
2012-09-22 09:44:14 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: fluffy2097: NewportBarGuy: fluffy2097: /iOS maps is proof that the Apple ship is already starting to list quite badly.

One app is the proof? Wow. You'd be a really sh*tty judge.

You think Jobs would have let a steaming pile of shiat like that be released? That he'd let his sleek magical device be paired with a giant splatter of diarrhea? Don't make me laugh.

Steve Jobs hired a ton of talented assholes to do his work. He was very good at keeping them in line. Without him to keep them in line, they are already going off the rails, pursuing their own interests and pet projects, and shoehorning them into production without the same level of testing Jobs would demand.

You think Steve Jobs would let a phone be released that would not function as a phone if you held it like a phone?

He would?

Never mind.


That was an unforeseen situation. Do YOU really think Jobs would let a phone be released if he know about such blatant flaw?

Their mistake that time was hubris. They thought the phone was perfect. It was the iPhone4, the one that changed everything all over again (lol), how could it have a flaw?

Then as thousands and thousands and then millions of people adopted it, it became quite clear it had that flaw.
 
2012-09-22 09:46:45 AM  
Hey Apple: The Farking Beatles would like another word, you smarmy, self-righteous, thieving douchebags.
 
2012-09-22 09:48:35 AM  
dl.dropbox.com


My goodness. Where is all this sudden Apple-hater butthurt explosion coming from?

The iPhone 5 looks to be the fastest smartphone we've ever tested at PCMag.com.

Ahhh... That explains it. Apple's one little phone has defeated the entire Android lineup.

Wait till the battery life tests versus the Android lineup are published. You can expect the Apple-hater butthurt to crank way up past eleven.
 
2012-09-22 10:21:20 AM  

BullBearMS: My goodness. Where is all this sudden Apple-hater butthurt explosion coming from?

The iPhone 5 looks to be the fastest smartphone we've ever tested at PCMag.com.

Ahhh... That explains it. Apple's one little phone has defeated the entire Android lineup.

Wait till the battery life tests versus the Android lineup are published. You can expect the Apple-hater butthurt to crank way up past eleven.


Wrong pic bro. That was right after khan killed a bunch of people and smuggly told kirk that "ill hurt you like you hurt me, marooned on a dead world. Buried alive... buried alive... buried alive." So basically you've mixed your metaphore. In this situation, kirk would be samsung and khan would be apple.
 
2012-09-22 10:22:02 AM  

frankmanhog: I wonder if any of those are for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE, the phone that the jury found did not infringe any patents, and then awarded damages for patent infringement on anyway.


When the jury deal with 700 individual complaints in the space of three minutes each you have to expect the odd problem....
 
2012-09-22 10:22:59 AM  

threadjackistan: BullBearMS: My goodness. Where is all this sudden Apple-hater butthurt explosion coming from?

The iPhone 5 looks to be the fastest smartphone we've ever tested at PCMag.com.

Ahhh... That explains it. Apple's one little phone has defeated the entire Android lineup.

Wait till the battery life tests versus the Android lineup are published. You can expect the Apple-hater butthurt to crank way up past eleven.

Wrong pic bro. That was right after khan killed a bunch of people and smuggly told kirk that "ill hurt you like you hurt me, marooned on a dead world. Buried alive... buried alive... buried alive." So basically you've mixed your metaphore. In this situation, kirk would be samsung and khan would be apple.


Wow, need more coffee, I guess you got the characters right, but missed the point. Or maybe my meter is broken this morning.
 
2012-09-22 10:28:26 AM  

threadjackistan: Wrong pic bro. That was right after khan killed a bunch of people and smuggly told kirk that "ill hurt you like you hurt me, marooned on a dead world. Buried alive... buried alive... buried alive." So basically you've mixed your metaphore. In this situation, kirk would be samsung and khan would be apple.


So you think Samsung will win in the end? ;D
 
2012-09-22 10:35:30 AM  

rocky_howard: threadjackistan: Wrong pic bro. That was right after khan killed a bunch of people and smuggly told kirk that "ill hurt you like you hurt me, marooned on a dead world. Buried alive... buried alive... buried alive." So basically you've mixed your metaphore. In this situation, kirk would be samsung and khan would be apple.

So you think Samsung will win in the end? ;D


That's what I got. Kirk was pissed off, but won in the end.

Maybe one of the reasons the iPhone is faster is it only has to run a far lower resolution screen? After all, it's not even true HD capable (720p)....
 
2012-09-22 10:43:41 AM  

Flint Ironstag: Maybe one of the reasons the iPhone is faster is it only has to run a far lower resolution screen? After all, it's not even true HD capable (720p)....


Nope. The tests take that into account.

The Galaxy S III has 26 percent more pixels than the iPhone 5 (921,600 to the iPhone's 727,400) but as you can see, in the "offscreen" measure of raw graphics performance, the iPhone 5 doubles the Galaxy S III's result. It's simply a more powerful phone.
 
2012-09-22 10:49:48 AM  

Flint Ironstag: Maybe one of the reasons the iPhone is faster is it only has to run a far lower resolution screen? After all, it's not even true HD capable (720p)....


It also doesn't have to run widgets since Apple loves to keep the outdated interface.

Also, the whole thing was a sham in the first place. The photos Apple used as "evidence" were not just doctored, but also disingenuous.

This is NOT what should be shown since the Samsung image is just a LIST of the apps/options not the actual interface. A grid of icons is something that has existed in every computer device.

techbu.com

This is an accurate description of what the actual interfaces look like "as is".

cdn.pocketnow.com
 
2012-09-22 10:55:18 AM  

rocky_howard: threadjackistan: Wrong pic bro. That was right after khan killed a bunch of people and smuggly told kirk that "ill hurt you like you hurt me, marooned on a dead world. Buried alive... buried alive... buried alive." So basically you've mixed your metaphore. In this situation, kirk would be samsung and khan would be apple.

So you think Samsung will win in the end? ;D


Plus like, Khan went around brainwashing guys like chekov and captain terrel
 
2012-09-22 10:58:35 AM  

BullBearMS: [dl.dropbox.com image 400x300]


My goodness. Where is all this sudden Apple-hater butthurt explosion coming from?

The iPhone 5 looks to be the fastest smartphone we've ever tested at PCMag.com.

Ahhh... That explains it. Apple's one little phone has defeated the entire Android lineup.

Wait till the battery life tests versus the Android lineup are published. You can expect the Apple-hater butthurt to crank way up past eleven.


According to my notes, you want to suck Steve Jobs' cock.

How does it feel that you'll never be able to do that now? Does it turn your throat?
 
2012-09-22 11:08:56 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: According to my notes, you want to suck Steve Jobs' cock.


My goodness. I guess someone with as much butthurt as you are experiencing knows a thing or two about cocks.

Seriously, why does the fact that Apple made a much faster phone than everybody else put together cause you such a huge case of raging butthurt?

Oh, the horror of admitting to independent test results?
 
2012-09-22 11:10:57 AM  
ignoring the astounding price, apple hardware has always been pretty top notch. i'd get a fancy iphone5 in a second if they'd ever release one that : accepted dual sim, micro SD, quad-band gsm capable, could be jail-broke or whatever to let me do whatever i want with my files.

i'd even put up with stupid proprietary cables and connectors. the magnetic power cable for the laptops is bad-ass, i would love to have that kind of connector for a cell-phone. but the connectors in the iphones seem just as fragile as microUSB. 

i think most of the hate is from apple having (oh here we go) generally mechanically superior products, but charging an arm and a leg for them, AND assuming their users can't be trusted to "have the keys to the car", so-to-speak. it's pretty insulting to not be trusted to attach files in an email.
 
2012-09-22 11:18:07 AM  

BullBearMS: Seriously, why does the fact that Apple made a much faster phone than everybody else put together cause you such a huge case of raging butthurt?


Faster? How fast can you put in a new 64GB SD card? How fast can you swap out batteries? How fast can you read on the tiny screen?
 
2012-09-22 11:18:40 AM  

BullBearMS: The iPhone 5 looks to be the fastest smartphone we've ever tested at PCMag.com.

Ahhh... That explains it. Apple's one little phone has defeated the entire Android lineup.



No it hasn't. Just wait until the end of this month when 4 new Android powered phones come out and stomp the shiat out of anything the iCrap5 can do. Face it, there will always be a better Android phone, because there are far more companies using the OS.

But keep putting that ice pack on your bruised anus.
 
2012-09-22 11:19:00 AM  

Flint Ironstag: frankmanhog: I wonder if any of those are for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE, the phone that the jury found did not infringe any patents, and then awarded damages for patent infringement on anyway.

When the jury deal with 700 individual complaints in the space of three minutes each you have to expect the odd problem....


When many of the "700 individual complaints" are check boxes for different versions of Android phones with the same question, it's not as unreasonable as you'd think. It's really more like 15-20 questions, repeatedly applied to different products.

Also, what are you measuring it against? What's the usual speed for a jury in a trial like this? For example, in the previous "largest patent trial evar" between Microsoft and i4i, the jury deliberated for 3 hours.
 
2012-09-22 11:22:23 AM  

BullBearMS: Flint Ironstag: Maybe one of the reasons the iPhone is faster is it only has to run a far lower resolution screen? After all, it's not even true HD capable (720p)....

Nope. The tests take that into account.

The Galaxy S III has 26 percent more pixels than the iPhone 5 (921,600 to the iPhone's 727,400) but as you can see, in the "offscreen" measure of raw graphics performance, the iPhone 5 doubles the Galaxy S III's result. It's simply a more powerful phone.


You mean to tell me a phone released this week is faster then a phone released 7 months ago?
What is the world coming to???

Apple will be behind the curve in a few months or less.
 
2012-09-22 11:23:13 AM  
I want to know how the battery lasts with the iPhone 5 compared the compared in real life outside cuppercino. LTE is a huge battery drain and apple would have to seriously under power the processor to accommodate this fact to get the battery life they claimed.
 
2012-09-22 11:26:17 AM  

Theaetetus: Flint Ironstag: frankmanhog: I wonder if any of those are for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE, the phone that the jury found did not infringe any patents, and then awarded damages for patent infringement on anyway.

When the jury deal with 700 individual complaints in the space of three minutes each you have to expect the odd problem....

When many of the "700 individual complaints" are check boxes for different versions of Android phones with the same question, it's not as unreasonable as you'd think. It's really more like 15-20 questions, repeatedly applied to different products.

Also, what are you measuring it against? What's the usual speed for a jury in a trial like this? For example, in the previous "largest patent trial evar" between Microsoft and i4i, the jury deliberated for 3 hours.


The fact that the foreman admitted that they ignored instructions from the judge pretty much sums up what is going to happen in appeals.
 
2012-09-22 11:28:28 AM  

bingethinker: Cry those bitter tears, little Fandroid. It seems like the more you sob, the more iPhones they sell.


You are such an Apple fanboy. Not a single thread goes by where your verbal diarrhea doesn't appear mocking "fandroids".

/farking fanboys
 
2012-09-22 11:36:43 AM  

BullBearMS: My goodness. I guess someone with as much butthurt as you are experiencing knows a thing or two about cocks.

Seriously, why does the fact that Apple made a much faster phone than everybody else put together cause you such a huge case of raging butthurt?

Oh, the horror of admitting to independent test results?


Why would I care about phone stats?
 
2012-09-22 11:38:03 AM  

bingethinker: Cry those bitter tears, little Fandroid. It seems like the more you sob, the more iPhones they sell.


uh, you realize Androids have been outpacing iphone sales and that's why Apple has resorted to a pathetic "sue our way to the top" model.
 
2012-09-22 11:40:12 AM  

Bill Frist: uh, you realize Androids have been outpacing iphone sales and that's why Apple has resorted to a pathetic "sue our way to the top" model.


Not even "androids". Samsung alone has been selling more than Apple and THAT's what's hurting them.

Before Samsung's rise to power, Apple was content that even though Android was already selling more than iPhone, it was still a bunch of different companies being added up.
 
2012-09-22 11:43:14 AM  

jaflasvegas: I want to know how the battery lasts with the iPhone 5 compared the compared in real life outside cuppercino. LTE is a huge battery drain and apple would have to seriously under power the processor to accommodate this fact to get the battery life they claimed.


Apple spent half a Billion dollars buying up companies that had experience creating processors that enabled high performance and extended battery life.

Then they hired away from ARM the guy who led the creation of the ARM A9 CPU that everyone uses today and the ARM A15 that everyone is just getting ready to switch over to.

Then they designed the custom CPU in their current phone. (The Galaxy S III runs on a custom Krait CPU designed by Qualcomm)

We'll have to wait for the independent testing to confirm it, but Apple says they get three more hours of web browsing over LTE than the Droid RAZR Maxx with it's huge extended battery, despite the iPhone's better performance and a third lower weight.

Apple's battery life estimates tend to be conservative over the last few years, but let's see.
 
2012-09-22 11:48:54 AM  
Also in the news today from one of the Android focused websites:

iPhone 5 vs Samsung Galaxy S3 drop test - Samsung fans, it's not looking pretty


Folks, to quote our Darcy LaCouvee, the iPhone 5 is "rock solid". It's not often that you see such words on Android Authority. What could have pushed Darcy, an Android fanatic, to utter such radical words?

Well, as much as we hate to admit it, the iPhone 5 did amazingly well in our drop test, while the Samsung Galaxy S3 came out in pretty bad shape. It's the cold hard truth that we can't hide and we can't ignore.

The hard aluminum shell of the iPhone 5 withstood the impact pretty well, and the glass protecting the display remained intact. Meanwhile, the Galaxy S3 predictably lost its back cover and suffered damage to the casing and the front glass. Sad, sad, sad.
 
2012-09-22 11:50:38 AM  

BullBearMS: Also in the news today from one of the Android focused websites:

iPhone 5 vs Samsung Galaxy S3 drop test - Samsung fans, it's not looking pretty

Folks, to quote our Darcy LaCouvee, the iPhone 5 is "rock solid". It's not often that you see such words on Android Authority. What could have pushed Darcy, an Android fanatic, to utter such radical words?

Well, as much as we hate to admit it, the iPhone 5 did amazingly well in our drop test, while the Samsung Galaxy S3 came out in pretty bad shape. It's the cold hard truth that we can't hide and we can't ignore.

The hard aluminum shell of the iPhone 5 withstood the impact pretty well, and the glass protecting the display remained intact. Meanwhile, the Galaxy S3 predictably lost its back cover and suffered damage to the casing and the front glass. Sad, sad, sad.


You mean to say that a device with a removable battery that you have remove the back cover to replace might have the back cover come off IF YOU DROP IT!?!?!

THE HELL YOU SAY!
 
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