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2012-09-22 09:05:11 AM  

OnlyM3: X-boxershorts

Harry_Seldon: YELLOL: And Koppel actually believes he isn't pushing a left wing agenda.

This is why you fail. Journalism's function is a check on power.
Feel free to post a link to the last hard interview the left did with Obama.


I will after you post any interview that MSNBC did with Bush.

oh that's right. He and Cheney wouldn't do interview with them. And yet Obama has been on Fox and talked to Bill,Chris and Bret
 
2012-09-22 09:06:38 AM  

sendtodave: animal color: You're right! Two wrongs do make a right. Bias balances.



Fair and Balanced.


Yes but you didnt make NBC or ABC right either ;

And the fact is that Fox reports accurately on some stories that some of the other networks wint touch.

For example, theyre ignoring the idiotic contradictory statements about the Libyan ambassador's murder that came out of the Obama administration, which insisted that a rocket attack on 9/11 COULD NOT be terrorism.

Come in people.
 
2012-09-22 09:07:30 AM  

S Gilmore L: "Smooch". Perfect, Mr. Koppel, nicely played.


Oh, please! That has to be one of the most childish things I've ever seen a grown man do.
 
2012-09-22 09:10:01 AM  

acad1228: S Gilmore L: "Smooch". Perfect, Mr. Koppel, nicely played.

Oh, please! That has to be one of the most childish things I've ever seen a grown man do.


yeah Bill's appeal to the masses strawman was pretty infantile.
 
2012-09-22 09:11:11 AM  

randomjsa: Fox isn't as biased as MSNBC, and you know it.


You're right. Fox is on a much higher plane of propaganda. Fox is what soviet-era Pravda wishes it could have been. Fox is the kind of instrument for spreading demonstrable lies and falsehoods that Lord Haw-Haw had wet dreams about.

Also, nobody likes you.
 
2012-09-22 09:13:40 AM  

Animatronik: sendtodave: animal color: You're right! Two wrongs do make a right. Bias balances.



Fair and Balanced.

Yes but you didnt make NBC or ABC right either ;

And the fact is that Fox reports accurately on some stories that some of the other networks wint touch.

For example, theyre ignoring the idiotic contradictory statements about the Libyan ambassador's murder that came out of the Obama administration, which insisted that a rocket attack on 9/11 COULD NOT be terrorism.

Come in people.


lol what are you talking about? you think Fox creating a conspiracy out of thin air is newsworthy for most of America's viewers? it's not.
 
2012-09-22 09:16:21 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Superjoe: Hey Bill, if you are going to let someone else have the last word you have to SHUT THE FARK UP.

I assume he meant it in the sense of "final point of discussion" rather than literally saying the last things before the camera goes off. Which is clearly also how Koppel interpreted it, so it's not that uncommon a way to phrase it.


No sir, I don't like it. Last word may not literally be 'last sound uttered' but it sure doesn't mean you can 'answer' the guest and have your answer be the last thing heard. If you are served a devastating blow, you just have to eat it. You can't panic and then awkwardly blurt out, "I'm NOBLE!"

If you do that, you aren't giving the last word. So Koppel took the last word. Muah.
 
2012-09-22 09:16:43 AM  

randomjsa: Beyond that I expected, and got, the usual 'Well Fox is bad and biased... but lalalala I can't hear you when you suggest any left wing outlets are biased'. Fox isn't as biased as MSNBC, and you know it. It might be as biased as CNN, but to deny that CNN/MSNBC/CBS/NBC/ABC shill for the left while whining about Fox shilling for the right makes you look like a fool.


What makes you look like a fool is holding the notion that any news outlet not exclusively pushing a far right-wing agenda is, by definition, pushing a left wing agenda. It is this strict black-and-white view of everything that makes right-wingers pathetic ditto-heads who cannot think for themselves and you posts here confirm it again and again and again.
 
2012-09-22 09:18:22 AM  

Animatronik: For example, theyre ignoring the idiotic contradictory statements about the Libyan ambassador's murder that came out of the Obama administration, which insisted that a rocket attack on 9/11 COULD NOT be terrorism.


Got a citation for that?
 
2012-09-22 09:19:59 AM  
I think it's great that MSNBC is now pulling in ratings equal to or exceeding Fox now. Maddow is giving Hannity a run for his money. Sometimes beating his ratings.
 
2012-09-22 09:21:59 AM  

nvmac: Ratings are not an indicator of integrity, Bill.


Yes they are. Everyone knows that Budweiser is far and away the finest beer on Earth. Numbers don't lie.
 
2012-09-22 09:23:34 AM  

Animatronik: In an alternate reality, laser beams shotvout of Ted Koppel's eyes and sliced and diced every journalist at Fox News.


In actual reality, Ted Koppel is an old man who is blind to the apotheosis of the welfare state that he has promoted his entire life. Blind to the fact that people have nasty disagreements over politics because the differences between the two political parties are increasingly extreme. With one party, the Democrats, utterly refusing to acknowledge the impending fiscal crisis that must be addressed now through spending cuts.


You REALLY enjoy constructing straw men, don't you?
 
2012-09-22 09:24:09 AM  

Animatronik: Ted Koppel is an old man who is blind to the apotheosis of the welfare state that he has promoted his entire life.


Citation required. +10 for the ambiguity of channeling Faux to perfection, leaving the reader uncertain if it lacked only sarcasm tags. Would read again.
 
2012-09-22 09:25:23 AM  
I farking love it! I so Miss Koppel
 
2012-09-22 09:25:30 AM  

YELLOL: And Koppel actually believes he isn't pushing a left wing agenda.


In related news, objective journalism is a left wing agenda.

You know that joke about how reality has a liberal bias? It's not a joke.
 
2012-09-22 09:27:00 AM  
Koppel for the win! Perfect punctuation to the interview!
 
2012-09-22 09:27:35 AM  

Irving Maimway: Ted Koppel, David Brinkley, John Chancellor, Frank Reynolds, Roger Mudd, and Dan Rather were the newsmen of my formative years. Thank God most of them are dead because they'd be disgusted by what passes for "news" these days.


I loved all those old guys, but Uncle Kronk was my touchstone on reality when I was a kid. He had what today would be considered a pathalogical habit in mainstream news, of personally researching the stuff he reported on.
 
2012-09-22 09:27:39 AM  

Animatronik: With one party, the Democrats, utterly refusing to acknowledge the impending fiscal crisis that must be addressed now through spending cuts.


so how do you feel about the 4 trillion in spending cuts that the GOP walked away from so they could keep their tax cuts for the rich?

how do you feel about the sudden fiscal responsibility the GOP found on jan 20th 2009? hell they spent like drunken sailors for 8 years before that.

how do you feel about the GOP keeping all their big ticket items out of the budget while the Dems make sure everything they propose is paid for and included in the budget?
 
2012-09-22 09:33:43 AM  

farkityfarker: Mr_Juche: As someone who works at a place where Fox is on the TV all day, I can say for certain that Fox does not have any "hard news" before 5. Not one damn minute of it. It is all stories to push an ideological narrative. fark off and die, you lying jackass.

It's amazing that employers would subject their employees to such torture.

It should be illegal.


Where I find it creepier is in places like hospitals, where it comes across more as push programming, because it's not like people are choosing to go to the hospital or thta particular hospital. (Yes, you're not mistaken: That is indeed the foundation of an FCC content argument.) When I was doing follow-up after a hospital stay, one of the places I'd have to sit and wait sometimes ran Fox News all the time in the waiting area. At the time, the man who ran the company that owned that facility was the highest paid health care executive in New England, while his employees faced hiring freezes, pay freezes, and mandatory overtime. The TV had a sign on it saying not to touch it or change the channel. But I'd built a small remote that ran 144 TV 'off' codes in sequence. I did not touch the TV or change the channel.
 
2012-09-22 09:42:57 AM  

Emposter: "But I still think I'm dong something noble"

O'Reilly is greedy and evil, but I don't believe he's an idiot. I believe that he consciously knows the facts and truths of the subjects he reports and comments on, which means he is fully aware that what virtually all of what he says on the air is either direct lies or intentionally misleading. He knows damn well he's not doing anything noble, but he also knows damn well that he has to SAY what he is doing is noble in order to preserve his viewership.


O'Reilly's a special case, so I don't think your very reasoned case applies to him. Bill's a victim of child abuse, and his adult and professional life is a sad and sometimes disturbing display of a man trying daily to exorcise demons that will not stop haunting him. It's got almost nothing to do with politics.
 
2012-09-22 09:47:35 AM  

syzygy whizz: Don't remember the exact quote, but Bill says something about how they could peddle an inferior product for so long.

Ever hear of opium? Stuff excites the pleasure neurons in your brain and you want to repeat the experience, again and again ad infinitum.

Lo and behold, you do this too many times and then you HAVE to do it just to maintain equilibrium.
Try to stop and you are in a world of hurt.
Think FAUX SNOOZE is like this for a lot of people...and since the product they provide isn't a 'real' substance and perfectly legal their audience sees no reason to discontinue dosing themselves with it.


Having had opium myself, I can testify to its powerful lure, though we were aware of this beforehand and took precautions against it. But I think what you've said is probably true for anything repetitive and reliable that people feel good about and enjoy taking it; I suspect it's one of the reasons people often react badly to change in their favourite shows, no matter what the change is. So I don't think it's special to Fox News at all. What I do think is true is that Fox is particularly adept at milking the emotional power of confirmation bias; but again, they're not alone in that, just very good at it.

I also want to say that I've personally seen real 'hard' news reported on Fox, and seen it done so without bias. I will concede, however, that it was a noteworthy occasion for that.
 
2012-09-22 09:49:52 AM  

Mr_Juche: farkityfarker: Mr_Juche: As someone who works at a place where Fox is on the TV all day, I can say for certain that Fox does not have any "hard news" before 5. Not one damn minute of it. It is all stories to push an ideological narrative. fark off and die, you lying jackass.

It's amazing that employers would subject their employees to such torture.

It should be illegal.

What's funny is that my bosses feel the need to have the TVs on all day, like it is a reward for us. But they only let news be shown. Because they feel they need to "balance" out Fox, CNN is on the other TV like they are an equivalent. CNN is not partisan. They're just dumb. They are the extension of the local affiliate mentality of over hyped, over sensationalized "news." So it's either put up with FOX pushing a narrative or CNN count to potato. And Cthulhu forbid that they get turned off and we work in peace. *sigh* I need to start drinking again........


Solution
 
2012-09-22 09:51:55 AM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Irving Maimway: Ted Koppel, David Brinkley, John Chancellor, Frank Reynolds, Roger Mudd, and Dan Rather were the newsmen of my formative years. Thank God most of them are dead because they'd be disgusted by what passes for "news" these days.

I loved all those old guys, but Uncle Kronk was my touchstone on reality when I was a kid. He had what today would be considered a pathalogical habit in mainstream news, of personally researching the stuff he reported on.


He was on his way out and I remember the kerfuffle over Rather and Mudd. Still all solid guys determined to report the truth no matter where it led.
 
2012-09-22 09:53:14 AM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Mr_Juche: farkityfarker: Mr_Juche: As someone who works at a place where Fox is on the TV all day, I can say for certain that Fox does not have any "hard news" before 5. Not one damn minute of it. It is all stories to push an ideological narrative. fark off and die, you lying jackass.

It's amazing that employers would subject their employees to such torture.

It should be illegal.

What's funny is that my bosses feel the need to have the TVs on all day, like it is a reward for us. But they only let news be shown. Because they feel they need to "balance" out Fox, CNN is on the other TV like they are an equivalent. CNN is not partisan. They're just dumb. They are the extension of the local affiliate mentality of over hyped, over sensationalized "news." So it's either put up with FOX pushing a narrative or CNN count to potato. And Cthulhu forbid that they get turned off and we work in peace. *sigh* I need to start drinking again........

Solution


Crap. That's what I get for not using Preview. There's something weird with the site that's not getting along with Fark's editor, so here's the raw URL, in quotes:

"tvbgone.com"
 
2012-09-22 10:04:35 AM  
is there an unedited version? theres a huge blatant cut around 35 seconds in
 
2012-09-22 10:05:59 AM  

Malivon: NPR/BBC World hourly updates typically satiate my news cravings, but is there someone who I should listen to for the news*?


Yes, you should take in more than only a couple or three news sources. I also listen to NPR News and BBC World Service, but I also take in other sources as I can, and as I consider them worth my time. One of them might surprise you. I conducted an experiment a few years ago in which I determined that Fark is as good an all-around news source as NPR News, by NPR's own standard. (Specifically, I rated how well I performed against panel contestants on "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me," which is based on NPR News. Fark outperformed NPR News three weeks running, and I saw no point in testing it further.) To get this benefit, though, you need to read an awful lot of Fark on a daily basis, and that can be time-consuming. You also need to read more than two or three tabs; yes, including teh Politics tab. (And by the way, this was when the Music tab was still here. Just saying.)
 
2012-09-22 10:11:55 AM  
Journalism has been yellow since the Gilded Age.
 
2012-09-22 10:12:43 AM  
Long thread, but here's my question, and I'm being serious, if naive:

When did opinions at ALL have anything to do with reporting the news?

Shouldn't the news be reporting on what happened?

There was a fire today.
The president spoke in Cleveland today.
A little boy got lost today.

I keep hearing about journalistic integrity but shouldn't anchors just be "reporting" the news?
 
2012-09-22 10:14:02 AM  

Bocasio: namatad: Makh: So Fox is trying to say that MSNBC is bad for being partisan while being partisan themselves because it's good business. Wouldn't it cut into their business if MSNBC went conservative too? Bet FOX would actually hate that.

LOL very good point. Only further proving his hypocrisy.

I can say this with pride now. I worked for an engineering company every week I could be in several different cities and fly back home by the weekend. Hilton honors and Priority clubs BS.

I always carried a programmable TV remote and what ever hotel I stayed in I would delete Foxnews from the TV


I applaud your industry, but I do not condone censorship of anyone. When I had one of those, I used to just *rename* the channels.
 
2012-09-22 10:17:08 AM  

randomjsa: I knew I could count on "ratings don't matter" people to show up. That's funny, this is the website that I've seen bragging more than once about the ratings of the Daily show when compared to Fox news. So I'm guessing that ratings only "don't matter" when you have to compare apples to apples, and not apples to oranges.

Beyond that I expected, and got, the usual 'Well Fox is bad and biased... but lalalala I can't hear you when you suggest any left wing outlets are biased'. Fox isn't as biased as MSNBC, and you know it. It might be as biased as CNN, but to deny that CNN/MSNBC/CBS/NBC/ABC shill for the left while whining about Fox shilling for the right makes you look like a fool.

By the way, going on about Freepers, or American Thinker, or whatever while swallowing whole sale the garbage from kos, TPM, or Think Progress makes you look even more foolish.


I'm not sure if you should talk to a doctor or an English teacher.
 
2012-09-22 10:18:46 AM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Emposter: "But I still think I'm dong something noble"

O'Reilly is greedy and evil, but I don't believe he's an idiot. I believe that he consciously knows the facts and truths of the subjects he reports and comments on, which means he is fully aware that what virtually all of what he says on the air is either direct lies or intentionally misleading. He knows damn well he's not doing anything noble, but he also knows damn well that he has to SAY what he is doing is noble in order to preserve his viewership.

O'Reilly's a special case, so I don't think your very reasoned case applies to him. Bill's a victim of child abuse, and his adult and professional life is a sad and sometimes disturbing display of a man trying daily to exorcise demons that will not stop haunting him. It's got almost nothing to do with politics.


Excellent mythical insertion. Poser. Typical of what Koppel was delineating. Bad form, dude.....

Why did you kill that woman in 1990?
 
2012-09-22 10:19:15 AM  

buntz: Long thread, but here's my question, and I'm being serious, if naive:

When did opinions at ALL have anything to do with reporting the news?

Shouldn't the news be reporting on what happened?

There was a fire today.
The president spoke in Cleveland today.
A little boy got lost today.

I keep hearing about journalistic integrity but shouldn't anchors just be "reporting" the news?


Indeed. Right-wingers view their interpretation of events as 'news'. When that 'news' is not reported by other sources, those other sources are librul media. For example, conflicting statements from various sources in the chaotic hours after separate attacks on the embassy in Cairo and consulate in Libya = foreign policy in ruins for right wingers. When Obama's foreign policy is not reported as a complete and utter failure by other media outlets, those media outlets are 'suppressing the news' and 'covering for Obama'. The fact that "foreign policy in ruins or a complete failure" is an opinion is lost on right-wingers.
 
2012-09-22 10:22:30 AM  

lantawa: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Emposter: "But I still think I'm dong something noble"

O'Reilly is greedy and evil, but I don't believe he's an idiot. I believe that he consciously knows the facts and truths of the subjects he reports and comments on, which means he is fully aware that what virtually all of what he says on the air is either direct lies or intentionally misleading. He knows damn well he's not doing anything noble, but he also knows damn well that he has to SAY what he is doing is noble in order to preserve his viewership.

O'Reilly's a special case, so I don't think your very reasoned case applies to him. Bill's a victim of child abuse, and his adult and professional life is a sad and sometimes disturbing display of a man trying daily to exorcise demons that will not stop haunting him. It's got almost nothing to do with politics.

Excellent mythical insertion. Poser. Typical of what Koppel was delineating. Bad form, dude.....

Why did you kill that woman in 1990?


Mythical insertion? Really?

Link
 
2012-09-22 10:24:10 AM  

buntz: Long thread, but here's my question, and I'm being serious, if naive:

When did opinions at ALL have anything to do with reporting the news?

Shouldn't the news be reporting on what happened?

There was a fire today.
The president spoke in Cleveland today.
A little boy got lost today.

I keep hearing about journalistic integrity but shouldn't anchors just be "reporting" the news?


They also have to help the viewer determine the truth. Not an opinion per se but when the politicians lay down bullshiat, they have to call them on it.
 
2012-09-22 10:26:24 AM  
His airkiss needs to be made into an anigif.

IMMEDIATELY.
 
2012-09-22 10:28:26 AM  
I thought he mouthed the word "Bull"
 
2012-09-22 10:29:04 AM  

theknuckler_33: lantawa: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Emposter: "But I still think I'm dong something noble"

O'Reilly is greedy and evil, but I don't believe he's an idiot. I believe that he consciously knows the facts and truths of the subjects he reports and comments on, which means he is fully aware that what virtually all of what he says on the air is either direct lies or intentionally misleading. He knows damn well he's not doing anything noble, but he also knows damn well that he has to SAY what he is doing is noble in order to preserve his viewership.

O'Reilly's a special case, so I don't think your very reasoned case applies to him. Bill's a victim of child abuse, and his adult and professional life is a sad and sometimes disturbing display of a man trying daily to exorcise demons that will not stop haunting him. It's got almost nothing to do with politics.

Excellent mythical insertion. Poser. Typical of what Koppel was delineating. Bad form, dude.....

Why did you kill that woman in 1990?

Mythical insertion? Really?

Link


Yes. Really. If you don't know the difference between a plausible, well-considered and doument-supported theory and an outright lying (though sorta humorous) troll, then you need to go back to Fark nursery school to learn your Fark ABCs.
 
2012-09-22 10:32:39 AM  

Waldo Pepper: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Bocasio: namatad: Makh: So Fox is trying to say that MSNBC is bad for being partisan while being partisan themselves because it's good business. Wouldn't it cut into their business if MSNBC went conservative too? Bet FOX would actually hate that.

LOL very good point. Only further proving his hypocrisy.

I can say this with pride now. I worked for an engineering company every week I could be in several different cities and fly back home by the weekend. Hilton honors and Priority clubs BS.

I always carried a programmable TV remote and what ever hotel I stayed in I would delete Foxnews from the TV

I applaud your industry, but I do not condone censorship of anyone. When I had one of those, I used to just *rename* the channels.

so you both feel it is okay to vandalize someone's property and you both have no respect for the people who stay in the room after you mess with the televisions. What are you 12 years old


While childish, it's not exactly vandalism.

The tv's aren't destroyed and can be reprogrammed easily.
 
2012-09-22 10:35:20 AM  

Waldo Pepper: Too bad Brokaw has gone off the deep left wing side of the pool.


LOLWUT?
 
2012-09-22 10:39:27 AM  

acad1228: S Gilmore L: "Smooch". Perfect, Mr. Koppel, nicely played.

Oh, please! That has to be one of the most childish things I've ever seen a grown man do.


And it really is just about the only conceivable response to something as outrageously absurd as "I still think I'm doing something noble." When a lunatic insists that God is talking to him via a dead squirrel with the voice of Alec Guinness, you smile and walk away. You don't try to show him why he's wrong.
 
2012-09-22 10:39:40 AM  

mrshowrules: They also have to help the viewer determine the truth. Not an opinion per se but when the politicians lay down bullshiat, they have to call them on it.


Well, I see "investigative journalists" would do this, but as far as a "news" program is concerned, NBCNews, FoxNews, Cnn, I don't feel it's their job at ALL.

A bomb went off at an embassy in Cairo. Period. Report the news to me. Don't tell me it was a failing on anyone's part, because that's not your job!
You "report" the news that happened.

There are other outlets, programs, papers, internet sites, what have you, that can "assess & interpret" that news all they want.

When I turn on any "news" program, I don't want them to tell me how I should feel about the news. Just report it.
 
2012-09-22 10:41:30 AM  

fenianfark: PBS NewsHour

Bolded and 'imbiggened' for emphasis. That right there is what a news show should look like.


In no particular order...

i49.tinypic.com

i48.tinypic.com

i49.tinypic.com

i50.tinypic.com

i46.tinypic.com

The Truth Is Out There...
 
2012-09-22 10:44:21 AM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Bocasio: namatad: Makh: So Fox is trying to say that MSNBC is bad for being partisan while being partisan themselves because it's good business. Wouldn't it cut into their business if MSNBC went conservative too? Bet FOX would actually hate that.

LOL very good point. Only further proving his hypocrisy.

I can say this with pride now. I worked for an engineering company every week I could be in several different cities and fly back home by the weekend. Hilton honors and Priority clubs BS.

I always carried a programmable TV remote and what ever hotel I stayed in I would delete Foxnews from the TV

I applaud your industry, but I do not condone censorship of anyone. When I had one of those, I used to just *rename* the channels.


I salute you.
I noticed some hotels in Florida would program thier TVs to turn on the Foxnews Channel no matter what channel was on, when tv was turned off. (Game on)

I don't consider deleting Foxnews censorship.
It would be very easy to reprogram the tv by calling the front desk or using auto program buttons on the tv itself.
I look at the situation like a delayed gratification or a mouse-in-maze test to fire the little grey cells before all the sugar of Foxnews.
 
2012-09-22 10:44:30 AM  

buntz: mrshowrules: They also have to help the viewer determine the truth. Not an opinion per se but when the politicians lay down bullshiat, they have to call them on it.

Well, I see "investigative journalists" would do this, but as far as a "news" program is concerned, NBCNews, FoxNews, Cnn, I don't feel it's their job at ALL.

A bomb went off at an embassy in Cairo. Period. Report the news to me. Don't tell me it was a failing on anyone's part, because that's not your job!
You "report" the news that happened.

There are other outlets, programs, papers, internet sites, what have you, that can "assess & interpret" that news all they want.

When I turn on any "news" program, I don't want them to tell me how I should feel about the news. Just report it.


The 24 hour news format requires them to fill their broadcasts with something. That's why cable news has endless droning of talking heads.
 
2012-09-22 10:46:48 AM  

Waldo Pepper: mscleo: Waldo Pepper: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Bocasio: namatad: Makh: So Fox is trying to say that MSNBC is bad for being partisan while being partisan themselves because it's good business. Wouldn't it cut into their business if MSNBC went conservative too? Bet FOX would actually hate that.

LOL very good point. Only further proving his hypocrisy.

I can say this with pride now. I worked for an engineering company every week I could be in several different cities and fly back home by the weekend. Hilton honors and Priority clubs BS.

I always carried a programmable TV remote and what ever hotel I stayed in I would delete Foxnews from the TV

I applaud your industry, but I do not condone censorship of anyone. When I had one of those, I used to just *rename* the channels.

so you both feel it is okay to vandalize someone's property and you both have no respect for the people who stay in the room after you mess with the televisions. What are you 12 years old

While childish, it's not exactly vandalism.

The tv's aren't destroyed and can be reprogrammed easily.

but why should the hotel have to spend time reprogramming the television due to your abuse and you wanting to feel superior to those who don't agree with your news choice.


Chili out dude. I'm not the one with the remote.

I just pointed out that this is not vandalism.
 
2012-09-22 10:55:29 AM  
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How precious, he still thinks he is doing something noble.

The face that launched a thousand c*ckpunches.
 
2012-09-22 11:03:01 AM  

lantawa: theknuckler_33: lantawa: Excellent mythical insertion. Poser. Typical of what Koppel was delineating. Bad form, dude.....

Why did you kill that woman in 1990?

Mythical insertion? Really?

Link

Yes. Really. If you don't know the difference between a plausible, well-considered and doument-supported theory and an outright lying (though sorta humorous) troll, then you need to go back to Fark nursery school to learn your Fark ABCs.


Writing a book that collects 'evidence' to support a straw man isn't a theory. It is farking stupid. It was nothing more than a tired rehashing of all the right-wing nonsense from 2008 and only emphasizes that the right-wing has NOTHING to run on 4 years later.
 
2012-09-22 11:03:33 AM  

animal color: If you have to go back to the Spanish-American War to find your example, you might want to look for another one.


The point was that Fox-style journalism isn't breaking some eternal news ethic, or going against some founding ideal of America. It's poisonous bullshart, but it isn't original.
- Hearst wasn't that long ago for some people.
 
2012-09-22 11:16:20 AM  

Animatronik: /ppl get angry at politicians who can't lead in a crisis, and if the repubs take over Congress and fail to lead again, anger will be directed at them.


IF they fail?
 
2012-09-22 11:17:07 AM  

Vodka Zombie: I genuinely feel bad for anyone with even one ounce of journalistic integrity who goes on Fox News. It's got to be a very strange world, and all they do is hump their ratings as though that gives them some sort of legitimacy.

Fiction sells very well, and Fox makes a killing off of telling people what they want to hear as opposed to what they should or need to hear.

"Hard news" my ass, Billy. There is no such thing in an echo chamber.


I suspect the Fox News room is run "bullpen" style a lot like that old gossip show TMZ.

"Obama farted in Church on Sunday."

"Lets run with as the top story. Get reactions from this fellow parishioners. If they are pro-Obama, distort their faces and edit the clip to make them appear to be idiots."

"On it, boss."
 
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