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(NBC News)   The town comptroller, who's had the job for decades, has a staggeringly wealthy horse farm while the town itself can't balance the budget. Gee, I wonder why   (rockcenter.nbcnews.com) divider line 128
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2012-09-21 08:42:09 PM  
Rafalca!
 
2012-09-21 08:54:24 PM  
Come on people. Let's have some serious discourse here.

Is it REALLY news that a small town politician is a thief and a liar? I mean, really. It's be a newsflash-worthy event if one had NEVER been dishonest or stolen from the coffers of the people he swore to serve.

Why, to be quite frank, I'm sure you couldn't even call him a politician legally if that were true.
 
2012-09-21 08:57:54 PM  

BronyMedic: Is it REALLY news that a small town politician is a thief and a liar? I mean, really. It's be a newsflash-worthy event if one had NEVER been dishonest or stolen from the coffers of the people he swore to serve.


Her, actually.

And she stole up to $53 million. No small feat.
 
2012-09-21 09:35:30 PM  

Shostie: Her, actually.


But I don't understand, I thought women were bad at math.

Pretty messed up. This is why occasional external auditing is important in any organization. It's not just for corporations. And this isn't the first time it's happened nationwide. Interesting though that in bad economic conditions these people are found out.

At my HOA one guy and his wife took over the HOA for a short time (some weird drama was involved, I don't know everything) but before they could screw up the finances, the old HOA president found out they had previously been arrested for fraud.
 
2012-09-21 09:52:15 PM  

Shostie: And she stole up to $53 million. No small feat.


That's the real story here. This town was so farking inept they managed to let her get away with this for decades.
 
2012-09-21 09:53:57 PM  
They tried to have her removed during council meetings, but the neighs vastly outvoted the yays.
 
2012-09-21 09:54:20 PM  
Many years ago I worked at a community college where the comptroller skimmed off millions. She got caught and went to jail, but it gave some context to our faculty salary negotiations when the administration was claiming poverty.
 
2012-09-21 10:31:04 PM  

Lsherm: Shostie: And she stole up to $53 million. No small feat.

That's the real story here. This town was so farking inept they managed to let her get away with this for decades.


that she got away with it is the story. that they FINALLY indicted her is the story.
the odds that other public employees are doing the same thing is ... well 100%
so what are we, as a society, going to do to find and catch the other ones?
I guess we could start with congress.

HAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
/sigh
 
2012-09-21 10:47:04 PM  
home.alfredstate.edu


hotlink
 
2012-09-21 10:47:33 PM  
one small town employee got caught. News.
 
2012-09-21 10:49:06 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: They tried to have her removed during council meetings, but the neighs vastly outvoted the yays.


We'll pardon the "neighs", seeing that horses are involved, but it's "yeas".

Seriously, no audits?
 
2012-09-21 10:49:17 PM  

KrispyKritter: [home.alfredstate.edu image 300x300]


hotlink


Are you saying you want to go #2 on her face? You sick, sick bastard.
 
2012-09-21 10:49:58 PM  
sharetv.org

Are we sure she was the REAL comptroller
 
2012-09-21 10:51:36 PM  
blogs.laweekly.com

Approves!
 
2012-09-21 10:51:57 PM  

lizaardvark: Seriously, no audits?


FTFA: "This took place over roughly a 22-year period. We had 5 city councils, three financial commissioners, three mayors and 21 annual audits." But, the mayor said, no red flags were ever raised.
 
2012-09-21 10:52:22 PM  

you are a puppet: [sharetv.org image 400x300]

Are we sure she was the REAL comptroller


Apropos of your comment

www.rowsdowr.com
 
2012-09-21 10:52:40 PM  
The townspeople really need to compleatly shun and ostracize anybody found to be corrupt. Don't even sell them food. And put signs up everywhere. Signs that have a person diembowling themselves and text that reads "Do the right thing". Shun their families also, don't sell them food, fire them if you employ them, don't buy from them, don't even talk to them, refuse to educate their children. Until the corrupt politition does the right thing.
 
2012-09-21 10:53:51 PM  

BronyMedic: Come on people. Let's have some serious discourse here.

Is it REALLY news that a small town politician is a thief and a liar? I mean, really. It's be a newsflash-worthy event if one had NEVER been dishonest or stolen from the coffers of the people he swore to serve.

Why, to be quite frank, I'm sure you couldn't even call him a politician legally if that were true.


...and therefore, we should just let the corrupt politicians be corrupt and never do anything to stop them.

/It's like we as a nation have just given up.
 
2012-09-21 10:55:39 PM  
Ahhhh, downstate Illinois, home of heartland "real American" voters of the GOP base.

Give us a lecture about "values", please. That never gets old.
 
2012-09-21 10:59:46 PM  
Suprising easy in small towns. Math is hard.
 
2012-09-21 11:01:22 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: The townspeople really need to compleatly shun and ostracize anybody found to be corrupt. Don't even sell them food. And put signs up everywhere. Signs that have a person diembowling themselves and text that reads "Do the right thing". Shun their families also, don't sell them food, fire them if you employ them, don't buy from them, don't even talk to them, refuse to educate their children. Until the corrupt politition does the right thing.


You compleatly sound like the uneducated child of a corrupt politition.
 
2012-09-21 11:01:44 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: The townspeople really need to compleatly shun and ostracize anybody found to be corrupt. Don't even sell them food. And put signs up everywhere. Signs that have a person diembowling themselves and text that reads "Do the right thing". Shun their families also, don't sell them food, fire them if you employ them, don't buy from them, don't even talk to them, refuse to educate their children. Until the corrupt politition does the right thing.


WTF? Was that even English?
 
2012-09-21 11:02:57 PM  
It's a good thing she's in jail. After 20 years, it's time to give someone else a chance to fleece the taxpayers.
 
2012-09-21 11:05:50 PM  
The best part of it all is that is ronnie raygun's town of birth, and they 'pride themselves' there as arbitrars of good govt. & clean ploitics in their republican method
 
2012-09-21 11:06:53 PM  
That's a man baby. The common clay of the new West. Win one for the Gypper
 
2012-09-21 11:10:25 PM  
the boyhood home of President Ronald Reagan. Folks in this hamlet of 16,000 like to say it was here that young Reagan learned his values...



Yep. Sounds about right on conservative 'values'...the bootstraps of robber barons, wall street white collar criminals and republican fundamentalist...

 
2012-09-21 11:11:23 PM  
October Surprise? She has ties to Ann Romney.

//not sure if repeat or follow up.
 
2012-09-21 11:13:51 PM  
OK, now she's been indicted so that makes it a follow up.

A court order and an agreement from Rita Crundwell to sell her possessions is why Federal Marshals are able to sell Crundwell's homes, horses and property. The list of the former Dixon comptroller's personal items is extensive. Most of the bigger items being sold are related to Crundwell's horse operation. There are Bobcats, John Deere Tractors, and several horse trailers. Horse equipment such as saddles are also for sale. 300 horses that did not sell at a web auction earlier this month are also on the list.

Federal Marshals are also selling 11 pages of personal items. The list shows benches, tables, bar stools, couches and chairs. There are also 9 televisions, several VCR's and DVD players, and washers and dryers that are up for grabs. Clothes, 7 fur coats, exercise equipment and art work featuring horses are also on the list.

14 of Crundwell's cars will be sold; they include a 2012 Chevy Silverado, a Ford Thunderbird, a Lexus, and a Hummer H2.
 
2012-09-21 11:14:19 PM  
The part I find most interesting is that the feds are auctioning off her stuff before the trial has even started.
There is no way in hell anybody should be OK with the assets being sold at that point.
 
2012-09-21 11:15:27 PM  
The sad thing is that it seems that at anytime she could have stopped and gotten away with it.
 
2012-09-21 11:15:41 PM  
This a repeat or is it just pretty common for small town comptrollers to be frauds and horse fanatics?
 
2012-09-21 11:17:20 PM  

Plant Rights Activist: This a repeat or is it just pretty common for small town comptrollers to be frauds and horse fanatics?

Yeah, I remember this from a couple of months ago.
 
2012-09-21 11:18:36 PM  

sick_of_it: The best part of it all is that is ronnie raygun's town of birth, and they 'pride themselves' there as arbitrars of good govt. & clean ploitics in their republican method


Really? They do?

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2012-09-21 11:18:56 PM  
How the fark does a town of 15,733 even have $53,000,000 to steal, let alone not notice that a couple million dollars per year were disappearing? Actually, probably more per year over a shorter time because I'm sure she didn't just dive right in. Aren't audits a regular part of the oversight process? Oh. 21 annual audits with no red flags. Who did the audits? If the answer is "Rita Crundwell was in charge of the audits", that town's entire government needs to be flushed.
 
2012-09-21 11:19:20 PM  

lizaardvark: I_Am_Weasel: They tried to have her removed during council meetings, but the neighs vastly outvoted the yays.

We'll pardon the "neighs", seeing that horses are involved, but it's "yeas".

Seriously, no audits?


I'm willing to bet she is the one that did the audits. And I'm willing to bet that when anybody suggested that they bring in an outside entity to do audits she argued tooth and nail, probably to the point of criticizing whoever suggested it for attempting to waste taxpayer money, against it.

This is why you always bring in an outside entity to do your internal audits.
 
2012-09-21 11:20:07 PM  

insertsnarkyusername: The sad thing is that it seems that at anytime she could have stopped and gotten away with it.


With the small town mentality of everyone trusting everyone else you can go decades without so much as an eyebrow raised in suspicion. I'm betting she traded off of her looks and popularity from high school to keep the ruse up.
 
Ehh
2012-09-21 11:21:01 PM  
Ain't that America...
 
2012-09-21 11:26:17 PM  
I read about this last week, they've already auctioned off all of her horses. She was known in the Okla horse circuit because of her extravagant trucks, trailers and equipment. The best of the best.

/sucks for those people that lost jobs, raises, services
//string her ass up
 
2012-09-21 11:27:18 PM  

jtown: 21 annual audits with no red flags. Who did the audits?


If you have $53M you can afford a very friendly auditor, if you know what I mean.
 
2012-09-21 11:27:21 PM  

buzzcut73: The part I find most interesting is that the feds are auctioning off her stuff before the trial has even started.
There is no way in hell anybody should be OK with the assets being sold at that point.


That's actually because of Reagan and the drug war.

Serendipity surrenders!
 
2012-09-21 11:27:58 PM  

lizaardvark: I_Am_Weasel: They tried to have her removed during council meetings, but the neighs vastly outvoted the yays.

We'll pardon the "neighs", seeing that horses are involved, but it's "yeas".

Seriously, no audits?


Audits don't always catch fraud and embezzlement.

There are a number of financial controls you're supposed to use to minimize this sort of thing. My guess is the town had zero controls.

One of the more common controls is how she got caught. You're supposed to send the people who handle the money on vacation now and then and have someone else do the work. If there's funny business - like the mystery bank account here - it often turns up.

/accountant
 
2012-09-21 11:28:12 PM  

Poo_Fight: sick_of_it: The best part of it all is that is ronnie raygun's town of birth, and they 'pride themselves' there as arbitrars of good govt. & clean ploitics in their republican method

Really? They do?

Citation.jpg


It says so in the article itself as posted by Hugemeister:

"the boyhood home of President Ronald Reagan. Folks in this hamlet of 16,000 like to say it was here that young Reagan learned his values..."

Also too, as jtkay posted:

"Ahhhh, downstate Illinois, home of heartland "real American" voters of the GOP base.

Give us a lecture about "values", please. That never gets old."

If you've ever had the misfortune to be there as I once had you would know what he is talking about - and it 100% on the money.
 
2012-09-21 11:28:48 PM  
Horses never make one rich. It just doesn't work that way. Sometimes they pay off and you can eventually make money at it if you have enough to invest, but they never, EVER, make you rich.
 
2012-09-21 11:30:03 PM  
Well, crund.
 
2012-09-21 11:32:41 PM  
Got greedy and that did her in. She had to have guessed she would eventually be caught, even if it was $53 million dollars later. She should have followed Hans Gruber's advice for stealing large sums of valuables: "Well, when you steal $600, you can just disappear. When you steal 600 million, they will find you, unless they think you're already dead."
 
2012-09-21 11:35:09 PM  
Ain't she never done heard of sunscreen?
 
2012-09-21 11:35:27 PM  

QT_3.14159: Horses never make one rich. It just doesn't work that way. Sometimes they pay off and you can eventually make money at it if you have enough to invest, but they never, EVER, make you rich.


Almost never.

www.lddavis.com
 
2012-09-21 11:36:46 PM  
Thieving ho be thieving. Some little girls never outgrow their wish for a pony or the notion that they're entitled to whatever they can fit in their purse.
 
2012-09-21 11:38:49 PM  
www.trbimg.com

The sale of a luxury motor home seized from former Dixon Comptroller Rita Crundwell hit a speed bump Wednesday as the only bid came in under the $1 million requirement, the U.S. Marshals Service said.

More
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2012-09-21 11:39:38 PM  
Paka Ono~

Sweet, sweet, living. I think he has a big horse farm too.

/the last chief of police was on the stand recently, and he took the 5th about 20 times.
//a Bell ringer
 
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