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(Huffington Post)   Tens of thousands of Libyans march against violence and local militias   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 230
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2012-09-21 03:06:42 PM
Are these the so called "Moderate" Muslims who have never stood up and denounced the extremist acts performed in the name of their religion?
 
2012-09-21 03:07:18 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: That's nice.

They should also let the militias know the nuclear devices they have are just shoddy bomb casings filled with used pinball machine parts.


Thanks, I hurt myself laughing. Dang it.
 
2012-09-21 03:07:30 PM
this makes me happy
 
2012-09-21 03:07:56 PM

Hobodeluxe: videos of marches


I see someone interviewing people in a restaurant(?)

Hmm, I'll keep it on, thanks.
 
2012-09-21 03:08:03 PM
The chaos will continue until a new strongman seizes power and becomes the next Gadhafi.
 
2012-09-21 03:10:29 PM
 
2012-09-21 03:10:47 PM

make me some tea: Hobodeluxe: videos of marches

I see someone interviewing people in a restaurant(?)

Hmm, I'll keep it on, thanks.


it's getting a little late in the evening there and there is other news to cover I suppose, but they will show the marches again in a few I hope.
 
2012-09-21 03:10:49 PM

gameshowhost: Hobodeluxe: [thinkprogress.org image 600x344]

Fake. Obama flew all of them in, for the photo op.


Is there no end to the perfectly executed schemes of this incompetent, empty-suit?
 
2012-09-21 03:11:10 PM
Jerusalem Post has a pic

www.jpost.com
 
2012-09-21 03:11:42 PM
s8.postimage.org

s16.postimage.org
 
2012-09-21 03:11:45 PM

Hobodeluxe: make me some tea: Hobodeluxe: videos of marches

I see someone interviewing people in a restaurant(?)

Hmm, I'll keep it on, thanks.

it's getting a little late in the evening there and there is other news to cover I suppose, but they will show the marches again in a few I hope.


Yeah I think it's about 9pm or so.
 
2012-09-21 03:12:20 PM

modesto: [s8.postimage.org image 600x418]

[s16.postimage.org image 600x470]


nice
 
2012-09-21 03:12:25 PM
But what if they are well formed militias?
 
2012-09-21 03:13:46 PM

trappedspirit: But what if they are well formed militias?


The food's spicy enough to ensure the entire populace is well-regulated.
 
2012-09-21 03:13:56 PM
It should be noted that there were more people at this demonstration in one city than at all of the "muslimrage" protests combined.
 
2012-09-21 03:14:39 PM

Securitywyrm: Something I read that I agree with from personal experience and shaped my view of these protests
In most middle-east countries, the government has TIGHT control of the media. No movie is made, newspaper printed, or photo printed without explicit government approval. Thus the people from these countries have no frame of reference for what is considered "Freedom of speech" in the United States. They simply can't grasp the concept that a movie was made in the United States that was not authorized by the United States government.


This attack wasn't made from a movie, it's by Al-queda after they took over the area after Gadaffi was taken out. One thing you'll learn is how many lies were told about Libya.

I mean, if he was the oppresive murderous dictator that he was made out to be, would he really ride around in his country waving like This>? And would his people cheer him on like at 5:30? Trying to shake his hand? Would the DEMOCRATIC AMERICAN president ever think of doing that?

Further more, Russia was monitoring Libya for the entire unrest, and they admit they didn't pick up any airstrikes, or any destruction. In otherwords, America made all that up to invade Libya, just like they did with Iraq.

Furthermore, does this sound like the words of a dictator?

One thing you'll find is that any stat on world povery will show libya had a lower poverty rate than either the US or Canada.

hcedaycharityawareness.files.wordpress.com

Whats the truth?

Gaddafi wanted to sell oil by a single african gold currency, and thus, sharing the wealth, similar to how Saddam wanted to sell his oil in euro's.


This is your freedom citizen. Enjoy it while you can.
 
2012-09-21 03:17:39 PM

links136: similar to how Saddam wanted to sell his oil in euro's


In retrospect, we should have let him do that.
 
2012-09-21 03:19:27 PM

links136: Further more, Russia was monitoring Libya for the entire unrest, and they admit they didn't pick up any airstrikes, or any destruction. In otherwords, America made all that up to invade Libya, just like they did with Iraq.


You do know that RussiaToday is a propaganda channel, right?
 
2012-09-21 03:20:17 PM
s13.postimage.org
 
2012-09-21 03:20:37 PM
this makes me warm and fuzzy.
 
2012-09-21 03:21:05 PM

macdaddy357: The chaos will continue until a new strongman seizes power and becomes the next Gadhafi.


Or, until they learn the rules of law & order.

That's what separates hell holes from civilization. You can bomb an embassy because you're not happy about something, or you can protest it peacefully and start a discourse about it.

It looks like they're learning the ropes. Let's hope it continues.
 
2012-09-21 03:21:24 PM

make me some tea: Jerusalem Post has a pic

[www.jpost.com image 370x223]


That particular photo is from a week ago.

Link (#6 in the slideshow)
 
2012-09-21 03:22:21 PM
The sane people are taking control?

Could we try that here???
 
2012-09-21 03:23:42 PM

LordOfThePings: make me some tea: Jerusalem Post has a pic

[www.jpost.com image 370x223]

That particular photo is from a week ago.

Link (#6 in the slideshow)


Ah okay thanks.
 
2012-09-21 03:23:43 PM
s16.postimage.org

That's not going to do much to assuage the fears of the Teatards.
 
2012-09-21 03:24:48 PM

Heraclitus: The sane people are taking control?

Could we try that here???


Simpsons did it!
 
2012-09-21 03:24:54 PM
growlersoftware.com
 
2012-09-21 03:27:30 PM

MFAWG: [s16.postimage.org image 600x470]

That's not going to do much to assuage the fears of the Teatards.


Nothing will assuage the fears of the Teatards.They are too stupid to realized that the Muslim religious law they scream about is almost identical to the Christian religious law they wish to enact.
 
2012-09-21 03:28:20 PM

impaler: [growlersoftware.com image 498x364]


Very good sir, two internets for Griffindor.
 
2012-09-21 03:29:24 PM
Link

There's a group on Facebook called the Sorry Project apologizing for the violence.
 
2012-09-21 03:29:53 PM

Securitywyrm: They simply can't grasp the concept that a movie was made in the United States that was not authorized by the United States government.


That's a very interesting point.
 
2012-09-21 03:30:59 PM
I'm fairly confident that these folks are protesting that the Islamic militants only killed 4 people, complaining that the number should have been far higher.

I have it on good authority that all Muslims are bad. They can't wait to keep our fat American women in basement pits, making them the lotion on their skin, the dog in the farking basket.
 
2012-09-21 03:31:26 PM

links136:
Gaddafi wanted to sell oil by a single african gold currency, and thus, sharing the wealth,


Oh Lordy. Yeah that's a policy with a bright future. I can't imagine that that could possibly fail unless the bankers ordered NATO to crush it. "Ring ring. Hey leaders of the 56 other African countries. Let's make our own currency! Even though some of us are on the cusp of being developed nations, others deep in constant conflict, and others on the brink of starvation I'm sure it would work perfectly. Just like in Europe!"
 
2012-09-21 03:32:32 PM
Behold, the face of terror:

s12.postimage.org
 
2012-09-21 03:35:00 PM
s16.postimage.org

Thank you, whoever you are. Thank you for protesting, thank you for being a rational human being. I agree with you that some Americans are farkwadded twatwaffles, but as we say, "I may disagree with you sir, but I will die defending your right to say it." I know it makes us look like assholes, and frankly, some of us are, but thank you for rising above the hatred. Please, please, please, be safe.
 
rka
2012-09-21 03:41:04 PM

Securitywyrm: Something I read that I agree with from personal experience and shaped my view of these protests
In most middle-east countries, the government has TIGHT control of the media. No movie is made, newspaper printed, or photo printed without explicit government approval. Thus the people from these countries have no frame of reference for what is considered "Freedom of speech" in the United States. They simply can't grasp the concept that a movie was made in the United States that was not authorized by the United States government.


Really? Do you really believe that excuse? They are not stupid nor ignorant. They have television. They have internet access. They have all the trappings of social media and they use all of them.

They know the latest fashions, the latest news and the latest pop culture from the west and can recite it at the drop of a hat. To suddenly claim that they have no idea how America works is reaching.
 
2012-09-21 03:41:52 PM
l.yimg.com
This picture made me laugh
 
2012-09-21 03:42:04 PM

Girion47: Link

There's a group on Facebook called the Sorry Project apologizing for the violence.


Good. Thanks for the link.
 
2012-09-21 03:42:54 PM

rka: Really? Do you really believe that excuse? They are not stupid nor ignorant. They have television. They have internet access. They have all the trappings of social media and they use all of them.

They know the latest fashions, the latest news and the latest pop culture from the west and can recite it at the drop of a hat. To suddenly claim that they have no idea how America works is reaching.


So the guys that live in the middle east and talk to these people are stupid, and everyone should defer to your 'expert' judgement.
 
2012-09-21 03:43:05 PM

links136: Securitywyrm: Something I read that I agree with from personal experience and shaped my view of these protests
In most middle-east countries, the government has TIGHT control of the media. No movie is made, newspaper printed, or photo printed without explicit government approval. Thus the people from these countries have no frame of reference for what is considered "Freedom of speech" in the United States. They simply can't grasp the concept that a movie was made in the United States that was not authorized by the United States government.

This attack wasn't made from a movie, it's by Al-queda after they took over the area after Gadaffi was taken out. One thing you'll learn is how many lies were told about Libya.

I mean, if he was the oppresive murderous dictator that he was made out to be, would he really ride around in his country waving like This>? And would his people cheer him on like at 5:30? Trying to shake his hand? Would the DEMOCRATIC AMERICAN president ever think of doing that?

Further more, Russia was monitoring Libya for the entire unrest, and they admit they didn't pick up any airstrikes, or any destruction. In otherwords, America made all that up to invade Libya, just like they did with Iraq.

Furthermore, does this sound like the words of a dictator?

One thing you'll find is that any stat on world povery will show libya had a lower poverty rate than either the US or Canada.

[hcedaycharityawareness.files.wordpress.com image 850x393]

Whats the truth?

Gaddafi wanted to sell oil by a single african gold currency, and thus, sharing the wealth, similar to how Saddam wanted to sell his oil in euro's.


This is your freedom citizen. Enjoy it while you can.



That is an awful lot of stretching you're doing.

The fact is that the Arab Spring was running all over the Middle East. When it hit Libya Gaddadi freaked out and started killing his own citizens. He was asked to stop by many countries and he still went on killing his own people.

Were there other things going on behind the scenes? Probably.

But it was the civil war that got the United States involved.
 
2012-09-21 03:43:55 PM
Funny how the English banners all say stuff like "We love Americans and Chris Stevens" while the Arabic banners all say things like "When you say "no" to insulting our Prophet we will say "no" to terrorists."

/mixed messages?
//or something more sinister?
 
2012-09-21 03:45:33 PM
And local militias what?
 
2012-09-21 03:46:02 PM

MFAWG: That's not going to do much to assuage the fears of the Teatards.


You sound infantile.
 
2012-09-21 03:49:38 PM

rka: Securitywyrm: Something I read that I agree with from personal experience and shaped my view of these protests
In most middle-east countries, the government has TIGHT control of the media. No movie is made, newspaper printed, or photo printed without explicit government approval. Thus the people from these countries have no frame of reference for what is considered "Freedom of speech" in the United States. They simply can't grasp the concept that a movie was made in the United States that was not authorized by the United States government.

Really? Do you really believe that excuse? They are not stupid nor ignorant. They have television. They have internet access. They have all the trappings of social media and they use all of them.

They know the latest fashions, the latest news and the latest pop culture from the west and can recite it at the drop of a hat. To suddenly claim that they have no idea how America works is reaching.


Perhaps you forget that Salafists (a minority population in Libya) are the ones who want to take the Middle East back to 700AD. Those are the people who are protesting the video. The people protesting against the violence are the more sophisticated folks you are describing. You can't lump them all into one group.
 
2012-09-21 03:51:48 PM

impaler:


Lawl
 
2012-09-21 03:56:25 PM

links136:
One thing you'll find is that any stat on world povery will show libya had a lower poverty rate than either the US or Canada.


Oddly enough, this paradisaical nation was not on display for people who actually visited Libya:

______________________
The capital city of Tripoli was an asteroid belt of monolithic apartment towers. The streets were mostly empty of cars, the sidewalks empty of people. I saw no restaurants, no cafés, no clubs, no bars and no malls. Nor did I see anywhere else to hang out. Libya, so far, looked depopulated.

The main drag along the sea into the city was one straw short of a freeway. There were no houses, businesses, restaurants or shops along the way - only clusters of vertical human-storage units surrounded by empty lots the size of a Wal-Mart.

Trash was smeared on the sidewalks. It clogged all the street gutters. Almost every available blank space (and, oh, were there plenty of those) was a dumpsite.

I got agoraphobia walking around. The streets were too wide, the buildings too far apart, the landscape barren.

It was worse on foot than by car, and exactly what I expected: all right angles and concrete. Almost everyone in this part of town lived in a low barrackslike compound or a Stalinist tower. Landscaping didn't exist. There were no smooth edges, no soft sights, nothing to sigh at. Tripoli's aesthetic brutality hurt me.

I walked parts of the city hardly any foreigners ever bothered to see. It looked post-apocalyptic, as if it had been evacuated in war or hit with a neutron bomb. The sound of machine-gun fire off in the distance wouldn't have seemed out of place.

"We hate that farking bastard, we have nothing to do with him. Nothing. We keep our heads down and our mouths shut. We do our jobs, we go home. If I talk, they will take me out of my house in the night and put me in prison.

"Qaddafi steals," he told me. "He steals from us." He spoke rapidly now, twice as fast as before, as though he had been holding back all his life. He wiped sweat off his forehead with trembling hands. "The oil money goes to his friends. Tunisians next door are richer and they don't even have any oil."

"I know," I said. "I'm sorry."

"We get three or four hundred dinars each month to live on. Our families are huge, we have five or six children. It is a really big problem. We don't make enough to take care of them. I want to live in Lebanon. Beirut is the second Paris. It is civilized! Women and men mix freely in Lebanon."
______________________

But no, I'm sure liberal Internet conspiracy theorists know a lot more about Libya than people who have actually visited there...
 
2012-09-21 03:57:39 PM
And there'll be jerks who think it's still not enough.
 
2012-09-21 03:57:42 PM

impaler: Securitywyrm: Something I read that I agree with from personal experience and shaped my view of these protests
In most middle-east countries, the government has TIGHT control of the media. No movie is made, newspaper printed, or photo printed without explicit government approval. Thus the people from these countries have no frame of reference for what is considered "Freedom of speech" in the United States. They simply can't grasp the concept that a movie was made in the United States that was not authorized by the United States government.

Some foreign relations guy was on NPR saying even sophisticated people in those countries don't really get it. He was talking to a doctor (IIRC) in Tunisia (IIRC) that couldn't understand how the government couldn't stop the video tape.


Actually this is a good point. A lot of folks on the other side of the world, even with internet access and all the latest fashions, don't really spend much time thinking about how awesome our freedom of speech and our culture is. A friend of mine brought his wife to the US from India and she'd never really been exposed to American culture before, even though she was well educated and pretty hip otherwise. She didn't even know who our celebrities are. I remember mentioning Arnold Swarzenegger and she said "Who's that?" It was a wake-up call for me.
 
2012-09-21 04:00:20 PM

LawrencePerson: liberal Internet conspiracy theorists


You mean like Truthers?
 
2012-09-21 04:03:38 PM

MFAWG: s16.postimage.org

That's not going to do much to assuage the fears of the Teatards.


i.imgur.com

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