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(CNN)   Paul Ryan: "Obamacare threatens Medicare, and I know a thing or two about threatening Medicare"   (politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 30
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2012-09-21 01:42:54 PM
7 votes:
Deep in an underground bunker somewhere, a couple of RNC staffers are having the following conversation:

Staffer 1: "OK, let's just reset for a moment. What do we have policy wise?"
Staffer 2: "Let's go down the list. Taxes."
Staffer 1: "Most people hate those ideas. Anything else?"
Staffer 2: "Foreign policy."
Staffer 1: "Hated. Somehow people remember George W Bush and those two wars."
Staffer 2: "Welfare queens"
Staffer 1: "You mean the 47%?"
Staffer 2: "Isn't it 100% now? We made it 100%."
Staffer 1: "He really didn't sell it well."
Staffer 2: "We could court the n*gger haters."
Staffer 1: "Sewn up. Not enough votes."
Staffer 2: "Immigration."
Staffer 1: "Mostly same as n*gger haters. And not enough votes."
Staffer 2: "Guns."
Staffer 1: "Mostly same as the n*gger haters. And not enough votes."
Staffer 2: "Old people, our bread and butter."
Staffer 1: "Did you watch that AARP video? One guy threw his walker at Ryan, he was so mad. He ran out of there faster than his supposed 3hr marathon time."
Staffer 2: "Debt and deficits."
Staffer 1: "People seem to remember we ran up a lot of it. Also, the Democrats added spending cuts to their platform."
Staffer 2: "F*ck. That was a good one. Economy?"
Staffer 1: "Improving incrementally."
Staffer 2: "What about clowns? People like clowns. We have plenty of them in our party."
Staffer 1: "People fear clowns."
Staffer 2: "Abortion?"
Staffer 1: "If we go that route we will get legitimately raped."
Staffer 2: "We need a game changer. What if we replaced Mitt with a robot?"
Staffer 1: "You aren't serious. Dude, we did that years ago."
Staffer 2: "People like polar bears. Maybe some pictures of Mitt Romney with some cute cubs."
Staffer 1: "Polar bears are dying off at an amazing level due to global warming, which we don't believe in."
Staffer 2: "I don't understand why people hate our policies so much. Do they want a job?"
Staffer 1: "I think they want some sort of...society, where....where...people...help...each other?"
Staffer 2: "Eww, gross."
Staffer 1: "I know, right? It's like....ok follow me here...we should have ideas that are, what's the word?"
Staffer 2: "Good?"
Staffer 1: "Good! Yes. Good for people. Good for people! GOP 2012: We like people."
Staffer 2: "They don't want to be liked, they want us to give them a handout...or, what was it Obama said, a hand up?"
Staffer 1: "OK, OK, here's a better one. GOP 2012: We want to touch you in a good way."
Staffer 2: "Brilliant."
2012-09-21 01:44:59 PM
3 votes:
God damn Ryan has an annoying voice.
2012-09-21 11:47:20 PM
2 votes:
Its that voice. I've heard that voice before. I'm sure seniors have too.

He was talking down to them.
There is some quality in his voice that I associate with someone wanting something from me but doesn't want to give anything in return. Romney doesn't have that same quality in his voice.

He has the voice of an asshole.
2012-09-21 05:17:45 PM
2 votes:

Moopy Mac: mrshowrules: Ryan speaking to the AARP. That takes some brass.

I'm not familiar with the exact details of Ryan's medicare plans. I thought he exempted oldies (those over 55) from the "cuts" (his private voucher system). So basically the people that paid the least (current retirees) would receive the most and the people that paid the most (the rest of us) would receive the least. Is that not right?


They had the OPTION, in the first draft. Old people are not inherently more selfish than the rest of us, so plenty of them had a problem with being bribed to support a plan that was clearly bad and didn't relish the thought of having to do more paperwork to keep what they already had. Also I think quite a few didn't trust him to keep the "opt-out" portion of his plan or the fact that his plan was going to bankrupt medicare sooner than the current GOP plan, (i.e. looting its funds for pet projects and tax cuts)
2012-09-21 04:42:36 PM
2 votes:
So Ryan goes to talk to old, mostly white people in Louisiana and gets BOOED?

When the GOP is getting old white people in the South to boo the shiat out of them during an election year, something has gone horribly wrong.

Horribly wrong for them, I mean. Not for me. The world is always a better place when Republicans are hated enough to be taken out of power.
2012-09-21 01:15:20 PM
2 votes:

Dusk-You-n-Me: This is without a doubt the most unfriendly audience Ryan has spoken to as VP candidate. Audience alterantes between silence and boos.- Rebecca Kaplan (@Rebecca_CBSNJ) September 21, 2012


Old people have been dealing with politicians for over 60 years. They know bullsh*t when they hear it.
2012-09-22 01:19:30 AM
1 votes:

coyo: Its that voice. I've heard that voice before. I'm sure seniors have too.

He was talking down to them.
There is some quality in his voice that I associate with someone wanting something from me but doesn't want to give anything in return. Romney doesn't have that same quality in his voice.

He has the voice of an asshole.


Noblesse oblige? Condescension? That kindly tone so useful for dealing with one's inferiors? (That's from a book, but I can't remember which one)

Yeah: Asshole.
2012-09-21 10:04:52 PM
1 votes:

Keizer_Ghidorah: Romney helps create better health care plan, installs it in Massachusetts, and not one peep of discord is heard.

Obama likes Romneycare, decides to make it nationwide, suddenly the howls and snarls and wailing can be heard from the fifteenth moon of Saturn.

Romney and Ryan condemn Romney's health care because Obama installed it, promise to completely and utterly destroy their own health care plan to put one over on Democrats, Republicans cheer and faint and pee themselves with glee.

Seriously, what the bloody hell is wrong with these people?


I could believe one of two things.
One, that small government is so important that it trumps a lower standard of living AND that any level of oppressively large taxes and interference with the market is A-ok if it is a state governor pulling the strings, except when it is about the bedroom or drugs, or ...

Or i can believe there is a huge population of ignorant people who can't put together what they are told one day with either the actions of those doing the telling or what theyget told the next day. All run by a group whose primary goal appears to be getting them and their friends richer.

Fwiw, there are plenty of selfish corrupt dems, but it hasn't reached the level of primary party goal yet.
2012-09-21 09:46:55 PM
1 votes:
Romney helps create better health care plan, installs it in Massachusetts, and not one peep of discord is heard.

Obama likes Romneycare, decides to make it nationwide, suddenly the howls and snarls and wailing can be heard from the fifteenth moon of Saturn.

Romney and Ryan condemn Romney's health care because Obama installed it, promise to completely and utterly destroy their own health care plan to put one over on Democrats, Republicans cheer and faint and pee themselves with glee.

Seriously, what the bloody hell is wrong with these people?
2012-09-21 08:29:27 PM
1 votes:

RussianPooper: mrshowrules:


I love you.
2012-09-21 07:57:13 PM
1 votes:

Cletus C.: Vote for whomever your union bosses tell you to. It's the American way.


Oh, FFS.
2012-09-21 07:14:46 PM
1 votes:

Cletus C.: whidbey: Fark: The Rise and Fall of Cletus C. Now available in large-print Kindle.

I'm good. No worries.


Not worried, but again, this signals the end of your foray into serious political discussion.
You've jumped the shark, as it were.

Didn't want to bring this up, but I think it's time for a new alt.
2012-09-21 06:15:15 PM
1 votes:
Ryan is a dishonest pos. He wants to cut it too, only to pay for rich rax cuts instead of alternate health care stuff.

What a dickbag.
2012-09-21 05:55:02 PM
1 votes:

Nadie_AZ: Ryan probably thought he could convince them, and if he couldn't, he could at least take them all on.


Some of those people are war vets who have killed people with their bare hands, and some of them have nobody left in this world so they've got nothing to lose. I wouldn't get into it with an angry crowd of them.
2012-09-21 05:11:00 PM
1 votes:

SuperT: Wow, if old people hate you, you're done.


When FARK trolls quit showing up to shill for you, you're done.
2012-09-21 05:04:12 PM
1 votes:
I am very pleased by this. If the Republicans have lost the elderly on this issue through the AARP, then Obamacare ain't goin' anywhere.
2012-09-21 04:45:46 PM
1 votes:

mrshowrules: -Romney release 2011 tax return artificially manipulated not to not make him a liar


Yes I love that. "See the rich get taxed a good amount (if we fudge the numbers to make it look that way)."
2012-09-21 04:44:58 PM
1 votes:
Let's be fair. Ryan doesn't want to kill their Social Security, just the next generations.
2012-09-21 04:42:55 PM
1 votes:

Coco LaFemme: I rather enjoy the part where he got booed. A-tee-hee-hee, a-tee-hee-hee.


You mean the entire speech?
2012-09-21 04:40:32 PM
1 votes:

eraser8: I've been checking out Drudge pretty regularly, lately. His headlines differ substantially from every other political reporting site. If Drudge were your sole source of news, you'd almost certainly think that Romney is winning the election in a walk. The headlines at Drudge are the absolute opposite of what's being reported by the NYT, Washington Post, Politico -- hell, even Fox "News."

In other words, Drudge is shilling awfully hard for Romney. And, he's shilling for Romney awfully.

Any guesses on why a closeted gay man would be the principal cheerleader for a candidate who's campaigning to, at best, keep him in the closet -- and, at worst, criminalize his behavior? This is a serious question.


I think, deep down, Matt hates Matt.

That's not a typo.
2012-09-21 04:32:18 PM
1 votes:

eraser8: Any guesses on why a closeted gay man would be the principal cheerleader for a candidate who's campaigning to, at best, keep him in the closet -- and, at worst, criminalize his behavior? This is a serious question.


Probably on the payroll. Romney probably remembers Drudge from when he 'took down' Clinton, the staff thinks he is still relevant. Money talks.
2012-09-21 03:43:13 PM
1 votes:
Summary of just today's Romney fail:

-Ryan boo'd throughout speech to AARP
-Obama cheered at speech to AARP
-McConnell runs away from press instead of defending Romney
-Ann Romney gets mad at Republicans for throwing Mitt under bus
-Romney release 2011 tax return artificially manipulated not to not make him a liar
2012-09-21 01:46:57 PM
1 votes:

bdub77: Deep in an underground bunker somewhere, a couple of RNC staffers are having the following conversation:

Staffer 1: "OK, let's just reset for a moment. What do we have policy wise?"
Staffer 2: "Let's go down the list. Taxes."
Staffer 1: "Most people hate those ideas. Anything else?"
Staffer 2: "Foreign policy."
Staffer 1: "Hated. Somehow people remember George W Bush and those two wars."
Staffer 2: "Welfare queens"
Staffer 1: "You mean the 47%?"
Staffer 2: "Isn't it 100% now? We made it 100%."
Staffer 1: "He really didn't sell it well."
Staffer 2: "We could court the n*gger haters."
Staffer 1: "Sewn up. Not enough votes."
Staffer 2: "Immigration."
Staffer 1: "Mostly same as n*gger haters. And not enough votes."
Staffer 2: "Guns."
Staffer 1: "Mostly same as the n*gger haters. And not enough votes."
Staffer 2: "Old people, our bread and butter."
Staffer 1: "Did you watch that AARP video? One guy threw his walker at Ryan, he was so mad. He ran out of there faster than his supposed 3hr marathon time."
Staffer 2: "Debt and deficits."
Staffer 1: "People seem to remember we ran up a lot of it. Also, the Democrats added spending cuts to their platform."
Staffer 2: "F*ck. That was a good one. Economy?"
Staffer 1: "Improving incrementally."
Staffer 2: "What about clowns? People like clowns. We have plenty of them in our party."
Staffer 1: "People fear clowns."
Staffer 2: "Abortion?"
Staffer 1: "If we go that route we will get legitimately raped."
Staffer 2: "We need a game changer. What if we replaced Mitt with a robot?"
Staffer 1: "You aren't serious. Dude, we did that years ago."
Staffer 2: "People like polar bears. Maybe some pictures of Mitt Romney with some cute cubs."
Staffer 1: "Polar bears are dying off at an amazing level due to global warming, which we don't believe in."
Staffer 2: "I don't understand why people hate our policies so much. Do they want a job?"
Staffer 1: "I think they want some sort of...society, where....where...people...help...each other?"
Staffer ...


sublime. Needs to be animated/produced in video format somehow.
2012-09-21 01:39:10 PM
1 votes:
And a CNN article reporting what he said without fact checking it. Liberal journalism at work.
2012-09-21 01:29:09 PM
1 votes:

mrshowrules: Ryan speaking to the AARP. That takes some brass.


Good point. Ryan and Santorum are evil, but they're not the coward that Mitt is. Even if they're crazy, I have a bit of respect for anybody who actually tends to say what they really believe to whoever will listen.
2012-09-21 01:20:42 PM
1 votes:
Ryan speaking to the AARP. That takes some brass.
2012-09-21 01:19:58 PM
1 votes:

Walker: They know bullsh*t when they hear it.


Yup!

As we walk out of AARP, an attendee mutters to his companion, "it was a bunch of bull."

- Rebecca Kaplan (@Rebecca_CBSNJ) September 21, 2012
2012-09-21 01:19:22 PM
1 votes:
This campaign is the joke that never ends. Who thought that putting the moron who wants to destroy Medicare in a room full of senior citizens was a good idea?
2012-09-21 01:18:20 PM
1 votes:

Dusk-You-n-Me: Link


LOL. They were booing the shiat out of him. It's almost as if they knew he was lying or something.
2012-09-21 01:11:03 PM
1 votes:
 
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