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2012-09-21 08:20:57 PM  

Lost Thought 00: AARP is a notoriously liberal group. It probably helps Ryan connect with ordinary Americans by having them hate him


Even though the NAACP usually is considered to lean Democratic, the Republican campaign (and its polling numbers) never really recovered after Romney received a similar reaction from them. Somehow, despite the crowd being from one of their key voting blocks, the booing here was even louder. They're boned.

/Not really directed at you; I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not.
//Either way, I might as well beat the inevitable shills to the punch.
 
2012-09-21 08:29:27 PM  

RussianPooper: mrshowrules:


I love you.
 
2012-09-21 08:54:27 PM  

Cletus C.: I think Romney might be a good president. I think he's a good man. Successful and smart.


I'm not trying to be snarky here but...why? Again, don't mean to be a dick but what is it about him that gives you that impression?
 
2012-09-21 09:00:54 PM  

mrshowrules: Cletus C.: mrshowrules: Cletus C.: whidbey: Cletus C.: whidbey: Fark: The Rise and Fall of Cletus C. Now available in large-print Kindle.

I'm good. No worries.

Not worried, but again, this signals the end of your foray into serious political discussion.
You've jumped the shark, as it were.

Didn't want to bring this up, but I think it's time for a new alt.

Seriously, I'm good. Put me on ignore if you can't handle opposing viewpoints. That creates a libloveland where you'll always be happy.

For the record, pretend Obama doesn't exist. Do you like Romney? Do you think he would be a good President?

I think Romney might be a good president. I think he's a good man. Successful and smart. I need more specifics from him. I want to hear a vision for the country.

I think Obama is a good, smart man. I'm not so convinced he's a good president.

Still, I'm leaning toward voting Obama.

Again.

So either you are a troll or I don't know what. Based on your comments in all the threads, I can't imagine why you would vote for Obama.


Looks like troll misdirection to me. Like a hunter masking his scent with his preys smell.
 
2012-09-21 09:10:53 PM  

Cletus C.: mrshowrules: Cletus C.: whidbey: Cletus C.: whidbey: Fark: The Rise and Fall of Cletus C. Now available in large-print Kindle.

I'm good. No worries.

Not worried, but again, this signals the end of your foray into serious political discussion.
You've jumped the shark, as it were.

Didn't want to bring this up, but I think it's time for a new alt.

Seriously, I'm good. Put me on ignore if you can't handle opposing viewpoints. That creates a libloveland where you'll always be happy.

For the record, pretend Obama doesn't exist. Do you like Romney? Do you think he would be a good President?

I think Romney might be a good president. I think he's a good man. Successful and smart. I need more specifics from him. I want to hear a vision for the country.

I think Obama is a good, smart man. I'm not so convinced he's a good president.

Still, I'm leaning toward voting Obama.

Again.


Look: I'm frustrated with Obama - and I'd like to see somebody light a fire under his ass.
But Romney is just not the man to replace him with.
And that's where we are.
 
2012-09-21 09:13:53 PM  

Cletus C.: mrshowrules: Cletus C.: whidbey: Cletus C.: whidbey: Fark: The Rise and Fall of Cletus C. Now available in large-print Kindle.

I'm good. No worries.

Not worried, but again, this signals the end of your foray into serious political discussion.
You've jumped the shark, as it were.

Didn't want to bring this up, but I think it's time for a new alt.

Seriously, I'm good. Put me on ignore if you can't handle opposing viewpoints. That creates a libloveland where you'll always be happy.

For the record, pretend Obama doesn't exist. Do you like Romney? Do you think he would be a good President?

I think Romney might be a good president. I think he's a good man. Successful and smart. I need more specifics from him. I want to hear a vision for the country.

I think Obama is a good, smart man. I'm not so convinced he's a good president.

Still, I'm leaning toward voting Obama.

Again.


So, you can vote Obama for your own reasons, but the people you are 'arguing' with on Fark vote for 'who their union bosses' tell them to? I mean, I suppose that was a joke... but it's really, really bad. And if it wasn't a joke... well, I can barely express in words the colossal nature of your fail.
 
2012-09-21 09:33:21 PM  

Cletus C.: I think Romney might be a good president. I think he's a good man. Successful and smart. I need more specifics from him. I want to hear a vision for the country.

I think Obama is a good, smart man. I'm not so convinced he's a good president.

Still, I'm leaning toward voting Obama.

Again.


I'm kinda with you on this except I voted 3rd party and will do it again. I don't think either candidate is terrible, but damn do I think the republican party is 50 shades of messed up and Romney is in the sad position of trying to appeal to the extremes that have become the base for the GOP and trying to court other voters like he was able to in Massachusetts.

We need more than two choices that have any chance of winning office than what we currently do.
 
2012-09-21 09:37:56 PM  

Cletus C.: Put me on ignore if you can't handle opposing viewpoints


You don't provide opposing viewpoints. That's part of the problem I have here. I see that you make a bunch of strawman-type statements and then cry foul when they're easily addressed. That's a more than a bit tepid.

The honorable thing to do is admit it's an issue.
 
2012-09-21 09:41:45 PM  

Via Infinito: Dusk-You-n-Me: Link

LOL. They were booing the shiat out of him. It's almost as if they knew he was lying or something.


"I went to a Ryan speech and a Phillies game broke out."

"Booooooo!!"
 
2012-09-21 09:43:50 PM  
More like Paul Ryan continues to tell the truth about Medicare, ObamaCare, and entitlement and liberals continue to seethe over it?
 
2012-09-21 09:44:06 PM  
Speech at the AARP

I really enjoyed the part where Ryan called a loud chorus boos a "mixed reaction." He's lying to the crowd who are booing him, about their boos, as they boo him. The man is a liar, but he is a liar with stones.
 
2012-09-21 09:46:55 PM  
Romney helps create better health care plan, installs it in Massachusetts, and not one peep of discord is heard.

Obama likes Romneycare, decides to make it nationwide, suddenly the howls and snarls and wailing can be heard from the fifteenth moon of Saturn.

Romney and Ryan condemn Romney's health care because Obama installed it, promise to completely and utterly destroy their own health care plan to put one over on Democrats, Republicans cheer and faint and pee themselves with glee.

Seriously, what the bloody hell is wrong with these people?
 
2012-09-21 09:51:46 PM  

randomjsa: More like Paul Ryan continues to tell the truth about Medicare, ObamaCare, and entitlement and liberals continue to seethe over it?


Yep. That's exactly what happened. You've read this situation perfectly.

Oh, here's some OUTRAGE to go with my feigned interest in your trolling.
 
2012-09-21 09:52:30 PM  

randomjsa: More like Paul Ryan continues to tell the truth about Medicare, ObamaCare, and entitlement and liberals continue to seethe over it?


Why should we keep listening to the liars, filibusterers, and assholes of the Republican party? Are you that desperate for America to become a racist, misogynist, homophobic, rich man's paradise Christian theocracy? Do you hate the idea of a country that helps everyone who lives in it? Why are Republicans and Libertarians such selfish and evil dipshiats?
 
2012-09-21 09:57:16 PM  
He'll just do what he did in WI when he was being booed by his constituency, and institute a $15 door-charge for attending his talks.
 
2012-09-21 09:58:28 PM  
msnbc is airing the snl weekend update special tonight @10pm eastern in case you missed it.
It's funny.
 
2012-09-21 10:04:52 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Romney helps create better health care plan, installs it in Massachusetts, and not one peep of discord is heard.

Obama likes Romneycare, decides to make it nationwide, suddenly the howls and snarls and wailing can be heard from the fifteenth moon of Saturn.

Romney and Ryan condemn Romney's health care because Obama installed it, promise to completely and utterly destroy their own health care plan to put one over on Democrats, Republicans cheer and faint and pee themselves with glee.

Seriously, what the bloody hell is wrong with these people?


I could believe one of two things.
One, that small government is so important that it trumps a lower standard of living AND that any level of oppressively large taxes and interference with the market is A-ok if it is a state governor pulling the strings, except when it is about the bedroom or drugs, or ...

Or i can believe there is a huge population of ignorant people who can't put together what they are told one day with either the actions of those doing the telling or what theyget told the next day. All run by a group whose primary goal appears to be getting them and their friends richer.

Fwiw, there are plenty of selfish corrupt dems, but it hasn't reached the level of primary party goal yet.
 
2012-09-21 10:32:09 PM  

DeaH: Speech at the AARP

I really enjoyed the part where Ryan called a loud chorus boos a "mixed reaction." He's lying to the crowd who are booing him, about their boos, as they boo him. The man is a liar, but he is a liar with stones.


Well, he did perform 1500 push-ups in the time it took them to boo, so there's that.
 
2012-09-21 11:15:12 PM  

Smackledorfer: Keizer_Ghidorah: Romney helps create better health care plan, installs it in Massachusetts, and not one peep of discord is heard.

Obama likes Romneycare, decides to make it nationwide, suddenly the howls and snarls and wailing can be heard from the fifteenth moon of Saturn.

Romney and Ryan condemn Romney's health care because Obama installed it, promise to completely and utterly destroy their own health care plan to put one over on Democrats, Republicans cheer and faint and pee themselves with glee.

Seriously, what the bloody hell is wrong with these people?

I could believe one of two things.
One, that small government is so important that it trumps a lower standard of living AND that any level of oppressively large taxes and interference with the market is A-ok if it is a state governor pulling the strings, except when it is about the bedroom or drugs, or ...

Or i can believe there is a huge population of ignorant people who can't put together what they are told one day with either the actions of those doing the telling or what theyget told the next day. All run by a group whose primary goal appears to be getting them and their friends richer.

Fwiw, there are plenty of selfish corrupt dems, but it hasn't reached the level of primary party goal yet.


The most corrupt Democrat alive is Gandhi compared to the creatures lurking in the right.
 
2012-09-21 11:23:28 PM  

mrshowrules: Cletus C.: mrshowrules: Cletus C.: whidbey: Cletus C.: whidbey: Fark: The Rise and Fall of Cletus C. Now available in large-print Kindle.

I'm good. No worries.

Not worried, but again, this signals the end of your foray into serious political discussion.
You've jumped the shark, as it were.

Didn't want to bring this up, but I think it's time for a new alt.

Seriously, I'm good. Put me on ignore if you can't handle opposing viewpoints. That creates a libloveland where you'll always be happy.

For the record, pretend Obama doesn't exist. Do you like Romney? Do you think he would be a good President?

I think Romney might be a good president. I think he's a good man. Successful and smart. I need more specifics from him. I want to hear a vision for the country.

I think Obama is a good, smart man. I'm not so convinced he's a good president.

Still, I'm leaning toward voting Obama.

Again.

So either you are a troll or I don't know what. Based on your comments in all the threads, I can't imagine why you would vote for Obama.


He's a total dick and one of the worst kinds of trolls--the kind who trolls just to stir up conflict and then sit back and laugh, knowing that he really agrees with everyone attacking him. Makes Romney's narcissism look tame and benign by comparison. It always has to be about him.

Attention whore isn't quite as bad an epithet in my book as hypocrite, but it's pretty damn close.
 
2012-09-21 11:47:20 PM  
Its that voice. I've heard that voice before. I'm sure seniors have too.

He was talking down to them.
There is some quality in his voice that I associate with someone wanting something from me but doesn't want to give anything in return. Romney doesn't have that same quality in his voice.

He has the voice of an asshole.
 
2012-09-22 12:39:33 AM  

bdub77: RussianPooper: mrshowrules:

I love you.


My pleasure!
 
2012-09-22 01:19:30 AM  

coyo: Its that voice. I've heard that voice before. I'm sure seniors have too.

He was talking down to them.
There is some quality in his voice that I associate with someone wanting something from me but doesn't want to give anything in return. Romney doesn't have that same quality in his voice.

He has the voice of an asshole.


Noblesse oblige? Condescension? That kindly tone so useful for dealing with one's inferiors? (That's from a book, but I can't remember which one)

Yeah: Asshole.
 
2012-09-22 02:24:11 AM  

Cletus C.:

Well, Ryan and Republicans didn't have the ability to force the Ryan budget through both houses, into the eager hands of the president, pissing off the opposition party to the point of gridlock since, but sure.


You don't think, perhaps, that the people giving a party a majority in both houses and the presidency might indicate that the people wish them to enact their declared platform? That they have the right or even the obligation to pass these things that they always said they would do?
 
2012-09-22 06:32:19 AM  

gaspode: Cletus C.:

Well, Ryan and Republicans didn't have the ability to force the Ryan budget through both houses, into the eager hands of the president, pissing off the opposition party to the point of gridlock since, but sure.

You don't think, perhaps, that the people giving a party a majority in both houses and the presidency might indicate that the people wish them to enact their declared platform? That they have the right or even the obligation to pass these things that they always said they would do?


Elected representatives representing their electorate is like rape.
 
2012-09-22 07:42:30 PM  
Apparently there is a for-profit "American Seniors Association" for the conservative senior citizen. It's not very popular, which is nice to see.
 
2012-09-23 01:26:48 PM  

randomjsa: More like Paul Ryan continues to tell the truth about Medicare, ObamaCare, and entitlement and liberals continue to seethe over it?


You in particular have a big problem differentiating "seething liberals" from "people hugely amused by the continuous and escalating fecklessness and incompetency of the Romney campaign". Maybe they're the same to you.
 
2012-09-23 01:29:50 PM  

coyo: Its that voice. I've heard that voice before. I'm sure seniors have too.

He was talking down to them.
There is some quality in his voice that I associate with someone wanting something from me but doesn't want to give anything in return. Romney doesn't have that same quality in his voice.

He has the voice of an asshole.


You know what's really weird, and I don't know how many people have this problem.

Sometimes when I'm talking with people about technical issues particularly at work, I hear myself getting pedantic and condescending. I have no intentions at all of being that way, and in writing I guess you can get away with it better, but in conversation I can sound like a pompous blowhard even worse than a Ryan or a Gingrich.

OK, confession over. Now serve me, plebeian dogs.
 
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