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(BBC)   BBC reporter: I parked like a jackass in front of my new home in the US, and my neighbors suggested I fix it. That's why the US isn't free and their politics suck   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 107
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2012-09-21 09:46:11 AM  
Good article, horrible headline.
 
2012-09-21 09:51:36 AM  
The next thing you know they'll be asking this poor guy to drive on the right hand side of the road.

Life is so unfair in America!
 
2012-09-21 09:52:42 AM  
Inclusive Americans embrace immigrant, give him gifts, and advice to help avoid a ticket.

I would say our "community spirit" is alive and well.
 
2012-09-21 09:56:21 AM  
After reading a BBC article about how the U.S. is in decline, and pretty much almost every Brit commenting saying "good," I'd like to sum up my reaction the twit in this article by saying, "fark off."
 
2012-09-21 10:21:00 AM  
How dare someone be expected to follow the law!
 
2012-09-21 10:24:36 AM  

TheHighlandHowler: Inclusive Americans embrace immigrant, give him gifts, and advice to help avoid a ticket.

I would say our "community spirit" is alive and well.


Brit responds with outrage, demands freedom everywhere.
 
2012-09-21 10:50:27 AM  
I would have to know more about the street to say if parking the wrong way makes you a jackass.

My street, for example, is way out in the burbs and get maybe one or two cars an hour and no one is parked on the street. It wouldn't be a big deal here (probably still illegal though). A street in the city where everyone is parked in the street, bumper to bumper. Than yeah, park that shiat the correct way.
 
2012-09-21 10:55:17 AM  
Umm, Subby, his neighbor showed up to welcome to him to the neighborhood and told him he should move his car to avoid trouble. The American thing to do would be to froth into a rage about entitled furriners showing up and just doing any damn thing they want, then calling the cops on him. You know, kind of like what you're doing with the headline.

The actual article is about how Americans really don't like each other any more. Our politics are divisive, we don't really talk to one another and we live in a nation of misconceptions, dogma and bullshiat.

Sounds like an accurate assessment of the America I live in.
 
2012-09-21 11:24:37 AM  
Suck a lime, Limey.
 
2012-09-21 11:44:00 AM  

Ennuipoet: Umm, Subby, his neighbor showed up to welcome to him to the neighborhood and told him he should move his car to avoid trouble. The American thing to do would be to froth into a rage about entitled furriners showing up and just doing any damn thing they want, then calling the cops on him. You know, kind of like what you're doing with the headline.

The actual article is about how Americans really don't like each other any more. Our politics are divisive, we don't really talk to one another and we live in a nation of misconceptions, dogma and bullshiat.

Sounds like an accurate assessment of the America I live in.


A bit of friendly advice from a new neighbor? The horror!
 
2012-09-21 11:44:35 AM  

Ennuipoet: The American thing to do would be to froth into a rage about entitled furriners showing up and just doing any damn thing they want


Can you really blame them? I wouldn't want to be a neighbor to that guy either, the ringing of the hammer strikes through the night would be unbearable.
 
2012-09-21 11:45:09 AM  
Eh? We had parked outside our picket-fenced new home and thought no more about it.

It's called a gated community you dumb fark, what did you expect. Some of these people have nothing better to do than get a small sense of purpose over adhering to and enforcing trivial rules.
 
2012-09-21 11:45:11 AM  
Well, this guy went through life with a fundamental misunderstanding about America that was corrected when he got here. And he says it right there in the article. What makes us different is we form the laws and rules and don't rely on the government to impose them on us. Don't like your neighbors rules? Argue with them, change their minds or leave. Welcome to America, limey.

I'm glad that Professor of Ethics pointed out that the kinder and gentler politics of the last 70 years is the aberration and not the norm for us though.
 
2012-09-21 11:46:20 AM  
British people problems.
 
2012-09-21 11:46:35 AM  
In bufu England, parking any which way you can fit your car along a country lane is completely fine. Not so in the land of planned developments and proper pavement.
 
2012-09-21 11:47:08 AM  
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Why couldn't it be Stalin or Jane Fonda or that weird guy in your dorm?
 
2012-09-21 11:53:50 AM  

TheHighlandHowler: Inclusive Americans embrace immigrant, give him gifts, and advice to help avoid a ticket.

I would say our "community spirit" is alive and well.


I hear they also have a speed limit of 25 in that neighborhood.

This means Jeremy Clarkson is automatically president and Obama has to drive a Reliant Robin around Laguna Seca without tipping over for ten years.
 
2012-09-21 11:54:57 AM  

Shaggy_C: In bufu England, parking any which way you can fit your car along a country lane is completely fine. Not so in the land of planned developments and proper pavement.


Also, teeth.
 
2012-09-21 11:56:07 AM  

EvilEgg: I would have to know more about the street to say if parking the wrong way makes you a jackass.

My street, for example, is way out in the burbs and get maybe one or two cars an hour and no one is parked on the street. It wouldn't be a big deal here (probably still illegal though). A street in the city where everyone is parked in the street, bumper to bumper. Than yeah, park that shiat the correct way.


This was in Washington DC, so yeah it's pretty much bumper to bumper everywhere. I park in DC all the time. He was more likely than not "parking like a jackass". Sounds like his neighbors were being very nice and he took the lesson away from it that he'd already decided on before he even got there.
 
2012-09-21 11:56:07 AM  

Superrad: I'm glad that Professor of Ethics pointed out that the kinder and gentler politics of the last 70 years is the aberration and not the norm for us though.


I keep trying to point that out to people who say "this is the most divisive political environment *EVAR*1", but mostly it feels like I'm banging my head up against a wall.


1. Usually with an implied "so vote Democrat", and sometimes it's explicit, if phrased different.
 
2012-09-21 11:57:38 AM  
I don't get the butthurt from the reporter. Preventing the guy from getting a ticket should be appreciated.
 
2012-09-21 11:58:25 AM  

Bleyo: TheHighlandHowler: Inclusive Americans embrace immigrant, give him gifts, and advice to help avoid a ticket.

I would say our "community spirit" is alive and well.

I hear they also have a speed limit of 25 in that neighborhood.

This means Jeremy Clarkson is automatically president and Obama has to drive a Reliant Robin around Laguna Seca without tipping over for ten years.


The Reliant Robin segment is by far my favorite thing Top Gear has ever done.
 
2012-09-21 11:59:43 AM  

Ennuipoet:
The actual article is about how Americans really don't like each other any more. Our politics are divisive, we don't really talk to one another and we live in a nation of misconceptions, dogma and bullshiat.


Yes, we must go back to that time in America where everybody liked everybody else, we rationally discussed politics, and had a well informed and educated society. I'm pretty sure this was right around the year NEVER. Same goes for other countries.

Everybody thinks the past was great, and we all worked together at some point. That's BS. Just like there's a great myth that the country united behind NASA and the Apollo program. Except, of course, while Apollo 11 was landing on the moon a huge part of the population thought it was a bullshiat waste of money. Or that at some point journalists were fair and non partisan. Also, BS, hence why you still have newspapers with party related names.

In fact, I'd say we're a lot nicer and more ethical than we were in the past. Just look at the editorial comments and official campaign speeches from the first two or three elections.
 
2012-09-21 12:00:27 PM  

Ennuipoet: Umm, Subby, his neighbor showed up to welcome to him to the neighborhood and told him he should move his car to avoid trouble. The American thing to do would be to froth into a rage about entitled furriners showing up and just doing any damn thing they want, then calling the cops on him. You know, kind of like what you're doing with the headline.

The actual article is about how Americans really don't like each other any more. Our politics are divisive, we don't really talk to one another and we live in a nation of misconceptions, dogma and bullshiat.

Sounds like an accurate assessment of the America I live in.


Sounds like you don't know the meaning of the word accurate or the word assessment.
 
2012-09-21 12:01:10 PM  
But we had parked facing the opposite direction of traffic. This, in the capital city of the land of the free, is a violation. In Washington, you must park facing the same way as the cars are heading. It is safer, they reason, because you don't have cars nosing out into oncoming stream of vehicles. And my freedom? Fuggedaboutit.

Does he think people in DC say "Fuggedaboutit"?

Sounds like he learned a lot about us from teevee. Probably disappointed that everyone wasn't wearing cowboy hats.
 
2012-09-21 12:02:36 PM  
This, in the capital city of the land of the free, is a violation. In Washington, you must park facing the same way as the cars are heading. It is safer, they reason, because you don't have cars nosing out into oncoming stream of vehicles.

Yeah, you're also not "free" to break into your neighbor's house, dumbass. Certain rules are in place for a reason, and certain areas have parallel parking ONLY, no matter if you think it infringes on your freedoms or not. Grow up, get a sack, and live with it.
 
2012-09-21 12:02:38 PM  

EvilEgg: I would have to know more about the street to say if parking the wrong way makes you a jackass.

My street, for example, is way out in the burbs and get maybe one or two cars an hour and no one is parked on the street. It wouldn't be a big deal here (probably still illegal though). A street in the city where everyone is parked in the street, bumper to bumper. Than yeah, park that shiat the correct way.


He indicated he lives in or near DC.

Tickets aren't in any way cheap and enforcement is overzealous. I'll spare you the anecdote but will say even with proper permits and cell phone video it was tough getting a bullshiat ticket thrown out.

His neighbors did him a big favor.
 
2012-09-21 12:03:11 PM  

Ennuipoet: Umm, Subby, his neighbor showed up to welcome to him to the neighborhood and told him he should move his car to avoid trouble. The American thing to do would be to froth into a rage about entitled furriners showing up and just doing any damn thing they want, then calling the cops on him. You know, kind of like what you're doing with the headline.


Nah, the "Real American" thing to do would be to froth on and on about how he oughta be able to park any damn way he pleases, and anything else is against the American spirit of individualism and an unacceptable level of forced collectivism. Like the author spends the first half of his article doing.

/he'll fit in just fine with the Tea Party set
 
2012-09-21 12:04:41 PM  
There are big signs, you can't park there! They should get towed! I hope they get towed to Queens and the Triboro's closed and there's a big crafts show at Shea, a flea market, or a tractor show!
 
2012-09-21 12:05:38 PM  

qorkfiend: There are big signs, you can't park there! They should get towed! I hope they get towed to Queens and the Triboro's closed and there's a big crafts show at Shea, a flea market, or a tractor show!


good job
 
2012-09-21 12:06:16 PM  
so... he was driving in the wrong direction on a one way street when he parked in the first place? How else does one accomplish this feat?
 
2012-09-21 12:08:32 PM  
Um, it is in fact illegal and unsafe to park with your car opposite to the direction of traffic. He was, in fact, parking like a jackass, and writing an article like one.
 
2012-09-21 12:08:38 PM  

BizarreMan: I don't get the butthurt from the reporter. Preventing the guy from getting a ticket should be appreciated.


Huh? He was moaning about the weird, fairly arbitrary law, not being told about it by the neighbor. He was comparing the generally proclaim concept of the "land of the free" with his virtual first experience in the country of being told in which direction he has to park his car outside his own house. 

I am sure Americans think it weird to worry about it, you have a sort of "boil a frog by warming the water slowly enough" to all the restrictions placed on you over time, so they become normal and not something you consider an imposition.

/and yes, there are no doubt just as many, if not more, in the UK - but when you move cultures you notice a lot of these small differences
 
2012-09-21 12:08:40 PM  
Actually, it sounds like he has a nice neighbor that is looking out for him on day 1. Wouldn't suck to move to a new country and suddenly get slammed with a fine for parking the wrong way on a road?

This Brit needs to realize that America is a country of law, contracts and money. Without our rules, what would we be? Anarchists. I'm all for more individual freedoms, but we have community rules so that things run smoothly. What if everyone parked where they wanted ... it would be a disaster.
 
2012-09-21 12:08:42 PM  
It was day one of our new life in America. I had arrived to take up my BBC reporting job and my wife and I were bringing our bags from the car. Our new neighbours showed up with cakes and soda. And a warning: "You'll want to re-park your car."

So on day one your neighbors showed up with cakes, soda and warned you about your car so you wouldn't get a ticket. This is your prime example of "What happened to America's Community spirit?"

You're seriously going to biatch about your neighbors giving you a heads up about breaking the law? Go back to England, hoser.
 
2012-09-21 12:10:53 PM  

xria: Huh? He was moaning about the weird, fairly arbitrary law, not being told about it by the neighbor.


He was complaining about the neighbors noticing before the CCTV cameras.
 
2012-09-21 12:11:09 PM  
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2012-09-21 12:11:11 PM  

mongbiohazard: EvilEgg: I would have to know more about the street to say if parking the wrong way makes you a jackass.

My street, for example, is way out in the burbs and get maybe one or two cars an hour and no one is parked on the street. It wouldn't be a big deal here (probably still illegal though). A street in the city where everyone is parked in the street, bumper to bumper. Than yeah, park that shiat the correct way.

This was in Washington DC, so yeah it's pretty much bumper to bumper everywhere. I park in DC all the time. He was more likely than not "parking like a jackass". Sounds like his neighbors were being very nice and he took the lesson away from it that he'd already decided on before he even got there.


Also, many (if not most) of DC's streets are one-way (and they always flow away from where you're headed). Parking the wrong way means either you have to pull a U-turn to get in and out of the space or you're driving the wrong way down a one-way street.

Also, does this jackass think it;s a good idea to nose/back INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC every time he wants to nip down the chemists for a pint wif Uncle Jack (lorries, lifts, suspenders, boots and brilliant!)?

// on second thought keep parking like that; you won't have to bemoan your lost freedom much longer
// but if you snarl my commute doing it, you citrus-dependent cloudsucker, I will burn down Westminster Abbey
 
2012-09-21 12:11:23 PM  
Or... and this is just an idea... learn how to park your farking car?
 
2012-09-21 12:11:59 PM  
Do they let cars park any which way they want in England? I'm guessing not, knowing their Draconian traffic enforcement officials. This is a guy who came to America with a distorted sense of what "freedom" means and was surprised that what he had in his head and what it actually is don't match up.

However, he does nail the rest of the article--we are a country of deeply polarized people who don't seem to realize that the folks on the other side are EXACTLY THE SAME AS US and want the same things. Democrats look at Republicans as racist, homophobic assholes, while Republicans look at Democrats as bleeding hearts who want the government to make everyone equal like communists. The reality is, neither side is anything like what the other side envisions, there's just a massive media machine out there that feeds the flames of hatred and keeps these distortions at the forefront by reporting on the anomalies instead of the vast, vast majority.

But yeah, I'm pretty sure parking your car facing the wrong direction is going to get you a ticket in any first-world country.
 
2012-09-21 12:12:27 PM  

xria: outside his own house.


You say outside of his own house, I say on a public road.
 
2012-09-21 12:13:09 PM  
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If it spouts off about socialism but draws its hammer and sickle completely bassackwards, it must be a moran.
 
2012-09-21 12:13:43 PM  

Spade: Ennuipoet:
The actual article is about how Americans really don't like each other any more. Our politics are divisive, we don't really talk to one another and we live in a nation of misconceptions, dogma and bullshiat.


Yes, we must go back to that time in America where everybody liked everybody else, we rationally discussed politics, and had a well informed and educated society. I'm pretty sure this was right around the year NEVER. Same goes for other countries.

Everybody thinks the past was great, and we all worked together at some point. That's BS. Just like there's a great myth that the country united behind NASA and the Apollo program. Except, of course, while Apollo 11 was landing on the moon a huge part of the population thought it was a bullshiat waste of money. Or that at some point journalists were fair and non partisan. Also, BS, hence why you still have newspapers with party related names.

In fact, I'd say we're a lot nicer and more ethical than we were in the past. Just look at the editorial comments and official campaign speeches from the first two or three elections.


Not even close to being "a lot nicer". For farks sake most people are afraid to talk to another person unless they are forced too (work) or have complete anonymity (internet). I was on a business trip to the Boston area a few years ago and was randomly chatting it up with strangers. This was completely foreign behavior to the resident showing me around and he literally said to me "Be careful you might freak a bunch of people out randomly talking to them like that". Also, was in a gas station convenience store and asked the clerk "Where is the beer?" and he got completely butthurt and started yelling at me. Thankfully, another resident said "you are not from around here I take it" and allowed me to realize just how farked up christianity has made this country.
 
2012-09-21 12:14:14 PM  

xria: Huh? He was moaning about the weird, fairly arbitrary law, not being told about it by the neighbor. He was comparing the generally proclaim concept of the "land of the free" with his virtual first experience in the country of being told in which direction he has to park his car outside his own house.


It's neither weird, nor arbitrary. And exists in many places.

Also, it isn't like the neighbor called it in for a reward, and then the cops seized his car, threw him into a terrible prison, held him there for five days with no charges, and then made him pay a bribe to get out.
 
2012-09-21 12:16:01 PM  

TheHighlandHowler: Inclusive Americans embrace immigrant, give him gifts, and advice to help avoid a ticket.

I would say our "community spirit" is alive and well.


I'm wondering what they were supposed to do. Pick up his car and more it for him?

In the context of the rest, I'd guess he has a problem with there being a law about it at all.
 
2012-09-21 12:19:12 PM  

thurstonxhowell: xria: outside his own house.

You say outside of his own house, I say on a public road.


I say, I need a license to operate my horseless coach in this totalitarian shiathole? BLIMEY!
 
2012-09-21 12:20:02 PM  
This is why the headline sucks. Everyone's talking about parking instead of the point of the article.
 
2012-09-21 12:20:39 PM  

make me some tea: This is why the headline sucks. Everyone's talking about parking instead of the point of the article.


ok
 
2012-09-21 12:20:50 PM  

Kazrath: Spade: Ennuipoet:
The actual article is about how Americans really don't like each other any more. Our politics are divisive, we don't really talk to one another and we live in a nation of misconceptions, dogma and bullshiat.


Yes, we must go back to that time in America where everybody liked everybody else, we rationally discussed politics, and had a well informed and educated society. I'm pretty sure this was right around the year NEVER. Same goes for other countries.

Everybody thinks the past was great, and we all worked together at some point. That's BS. Just like there's a great myth that the country united behind NASA and the Apollo program. Except, of course, while Apollo 11 was landing on the moon a huge part of the population thought it was a bullshiat waste of money. Or that at some point journalists were fair and non partisan. Also, BS, hence why you still have newspapers with party related names.

In fact, I'd say we're a lot nicer and more ethical than we were in the past. Just look at the editorial comments and official campaign speeches from the first two or three elections.

Not even close to being "a lot nicer". For farks sake most people are afraid to talk to another person unless they are forced too (work) or have complete anonymity (internet). I was on a business trip to the Boston area a few years ago and was randomly chatting it up with strangers. This was completely foreign behavior to the resident showing me around and he literally said to me "Be careful you might freak a bunch of people out randomly talking to them like that". Also, was in a gas station convenience store and asked the clerk "Where is the beer?" and he got completely butthurt and started yelling at me. Thankfully, another resident said "you are not from around here I take it" and allowed me to realize just how farked up christianity has made this country.


I've traveled all over the country for work and have never experienced anything like what you just described. Closest thing I got was a condescending lecture on the intricacies of PA alcohol sales and why I couldn't buy a 6 pack from a place selling kegs through a drive-through window.
 
2012-09-21 12:24:05 PM  
FTA:The secretly filmed video in which Mitt Romney appeared to disparage the 47% of Americans who do not pay income tax, was nothing compared to the harsh, divisive language used by some US politicians, radio hosts and bloggers.

OT: I'm tired of it being called "secretly filmed" footage that was "leaked" to the public. He wasn't filmed in the shower with Egg. He was speaking at a fundraiser. There was no reason to expect it to be top-secret just because the media wasn't there. People weren't sworn to secrecy before they entered.
 
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