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(BBC)   HA HA, China's facing a GREY WAVE   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 81
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2012-09-21 12:38:39 PM  
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2012-09-21 12:51:06 PM  
So is the US.
 
2012-09-21 12:52:19 PM  
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2012-09-21 12:52:28 PM  
"I never thought about what would happen when I got old," he says. "My parents died of starvation. I couldn't even afford coffins for their bodies. My children grew up with no clothes. I had no money for those either."

I can't afford an iPhone 5, right now. :(
 
2012-09-21 12:55:09 PM  
No safety net for the old? WTF kind of Communism is that?
 
2012-09-21 12:55:14 PM  
We can haz HA HA guy thread?
 
2012-09-21 12:55:20 PM  
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Governor Gloom has some ideas...
 
2012-09-21 12:55:23 PM  
So are we.
 
2012-09-21 12:56:23 PM  
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When the Grey Wave is dead, Magua will eat its heart.
 
2012-09-21 12:59:19 PM  
www.mindhuestudio.com
 
2012-09-21 01:00:30 PM  
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/Wait, what?
 
2012-09-21 01:00:57 PM  
www.mindhuestudio.com
 
2012-09-21 01:01:37 PM  

DECMATH: No safety net for the old? WTF kind of Communism is that?


No safety net for pretty much anyone. Welcome to Communist China where Communism is alive and dead at the same time.

Also, I'd bet 1元 that the town from TFA has more people than are actually in it. China doesn't let it's people move willy-nilly and keeps population registries. Anyone of "working age" probably left for the nearest major city to work as illegal laborers (illegal since they are not registered to live in the city they work in).

China is a deeply screwed up country.
 
2012-09-21 01:02:39 PM  
Sad, sobering article. I don't get why the headline has to laugh about this situation, is this a meme that I haven't caught onto?
 
2012-09-21 01:03:45 PM  
I guess we'll start seeing real Death Panels now. This is bad new for.... Obama.
 
2012-09-21 01:04:15 PM  

DECMATH: No safety net for the old? WTF kind of Communism is that?


The kind that can actually exist in real life, as opposed to the imaginary kind that only exists in the minds of its supporters.

/the one person at the top enjoys cradle-to-grave care
//everyone else gets to starve to death, sooner or later
 
2012-09-21 01:04:57 PM  
Coning soon to the USA.

In the future, when we have to step over these "Tax Enough Already!!11q" Boomers dying in the streets, I wonder if we will feel any pity for them as he hurry to our 96 hours a week job that pays barely enough for a warm place to sleep and enough food to keep working.
 
2012-09-21 01:05:21 PM  
so this is China's 5 000 000 000 Shades of Grey?
 
2012-09-21 01:05:36 PM  
Paying the price of not having labor laws.

If this is a significant problem, the citizenry will demand protection and aid from the government, who will raise and enforce taxes and labor laws, which will raise the price of goods, making it a level "playing field" once again.

Absolutely the West should not help them out.
 
2012-09-21 01:07:22 PM  
It's a Commie Plot!

The Chinese, having noticed that the most irresistable force in the Universe is tiny Chinese grandmothers, has conspired to great a vast army of tiny Chinese grandmothers. They have the lifting power of ants (relative to their size), the arguing power of a minyan of ultra-orthodox Rabbis, and the unbearable screech of their voices when they shout at you makes ultra-macho giants turn to wobbly jellies and wet themselves.

Nobody can resist a tiny Chinese grandmother, and now they have hundreds of millions of them, poised to invade the developed world and take over.

Obese Chinese single children, accompanied by a bodyguard of doting, over-protective grandmothers (some with as many as nine grandmothers counting great-granies and great-great grannies), will devour everything in their path, devastating North America, Europe, Russia and Australia.

Note: They won't have to invade Latin America and Africa because they already own all the land and resources in the Third World.

Operation Grammie is the final phase of their plot to take over the world.

The only country with the power to stop China is India, which has annoying grandparents of its own and unlike China has not even attempted to achieve zero population growth.

The clash of two armies of Indian and Chinese grandparents is a sight to behold, and could make Argmageddon look like play time at an Infant Creche in Copenhagen. Unfortunately, you are unlikely to ever see it more than once.

Chinese Grandmothers of the World unite! You have nothing to lose but your worthless lazy daughters-in-law!
 
2012-09-21 01:12:50 PM  
Looks like Apple has solved the problem

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2012-09-21 01:14:23 PM  

brantgoose: It's a Commie Plot!

The Chinese, having noticed that the most irresistable force in the Universe is tiny Chinese grandmothers, has conspired to great a vast army of tiny Chinese grandmothers. They have the lifting power of ants (relative to their size), the arguing power of a minyan of ultra-orthodox Rabbis, and the unbearable screech of their voices when they shout at you makes ultra-macho giants turn to wobbly jellies and wet themselves.

Nobody can resist a tiny Chinese grandmother, and now they have hundreds of millions of them, poised to invade the developed world and take over.

Obese Chinese single children, accompanied by a bodyguard of doting, over-protective grandmothers (some with as many as nine grandmothers counting great-granies and great-great grannies), will devour everything in their path, devastating North America, Europe, Russia and Australia.

Note: They won't have to invade Latin America and Africa because they already own all the land and resources in the Third World.

Operation Grammie is the final phase of their plot to take over the world.

The only country with the power to stop China is India, which has annoying grandparents of its own and unlike China has not even attempted to achieve zero population growth.

The clash of two armies of Indian and Chinese grandparents is a sight to behold, and could make Argmageddon look like play time at an Infant Creche in Copenhagen. Unfortunately, you are unlikely to ever see it more than once.

Chinese Grandmothers of the World unite! You have nothing to lose but your worthless lazy daughters-in-law!


I love you,
 
2012-09-21 01:16:26 PM  
TFA says Life expectancy in China today rivals that in the West - it is one of this country's impressive advances. Except China has not yet built a social safety net to provide pensions, affordable healthcare or homes for all its elderly.

This doesn't make any sense. How do people live that long without government assistance to pay for pharmaceuticals and housing and cable television? Surely the civilized West with its social welfare programs leads to people living longer lives?
 
2012-09-21 01:17:28 PM  
This is why people should have the right to die when they chose so.

Suicide booths... the next big thing in china.
 
2012-09-21 01:19:38 PM  
A communist country that has no safety net, now I've seen it all.
 
2012-09-21 01:24:49 PM  
Jesus farking Christ, it's AGING. You drop the E when you add ING!
 
2012-09-21 01:25:04 PM  

Tatterdemalian:
/the one person at the top enjoys cradle-to-grave care
//everyone else gets to starve to death, sooner or later


Why do you hate The Chairman?
 
2012-09-21 01:27:34 PM  

brantgoose: It's a Commie Plot!

The Chinese, having noticed that the most irresistable force in the Universe is tiny Chinese grandmothers, has conspired to great a vast army of tiny Chinese grandmothers. They have the lifting power of ants (relative to their size), the arguing power of a minyan of ultra-orthodox Rabbis, and the unbearable screech of their voices when they shout at you makes ultra-macho giants turn to wobbly jellies and wet themselves.

Nobody can resist a tiny Chinese grandmother, and now they have hundreds of millions of them, poised to invade the developed world and take over.

Obese Chinese single children, accompanied by a bodyguard of doting, over-protective grandmothers (some with as many as nine grandmothers counting great-granies and great-great grannies), will devour everything in their path, devastating North America, Europe, Russia and Australia.

Note: They won't have to invade Latin America and Africa because they already own all the land and resources in the Third World.

Operation Grammie is the final phase of their plot to take over the world.

The only country with the power to stop China is India, which has annoying grandparents of its own and unlike China has not even attempted to achieve zero population growth.

The clash of two armies of Indian and Chinese grandparents is a sight to behold, and could make Argmageddon look like play time at an Infant Creche in Copenhagen. Unfortunately, you are unlikely to ever see it more than once.

Chinese Grandmothers of the World unite! You have nothing to lose but your worthless lazy daughters-in-law!


Safe to assume that you've never lived in a Jewish neighborhood.
 
2012-09-21 01:27:47 PM  
Someone get Pearl Buck on the phone please. We need commentary.
 
2012-09-21 01:29:04 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: Looks like Apple has solved the problem

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a. Scope of License: This license granted to You for the Licensed Application by Application Provider is limited to a non-transferable license to use the Licensed Application on any iPhone or iPod touch that You own or control and as permitted by the Usage Rules set forth in Section 9.b. of the App Store Terms and Conditions (the "Usage Rules"). This license does not allow You to use the Licensed Application on any iPod touch or iPhone that You do not own or control, and You may not distribute or make the Licensed Application available over a network where it could be used by multiple devices at the same time. You may not rent, lease, lend, sell, redistribute or sublicense the Licensed Application. You may not copy (except as expressly permitted by this license and the Usage Rules), decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, attempt to derive the source code of, modify, or create derivative works of the Licensed Application, any updates, or any part thereof (except as and only to the extent any foregoing restriction is prohibited by applicable law or to the extent as may be permitted by the licensing terms governing use of any open sourced components included with the Licensed Application). Any attempt to do so is a violation of the rights of the Application Provider and its licensors. If You breach this restriction, You may be subject to prosecution an ...


i50.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-21 01:34:53 PM  

super_grass: A communist country that has no safety net, now I've seen it all.


They are CINOs, Communist In Name Only. So I guess they are Chinoccinos.
 
2012-09-21 01:36:22 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: You will feed and cloth and maintain one (1) Chinese senior citizen of Apple's choosing. No take backs. No Trades.


And yet another reason you are in a nice shade of green.
 
2012-09-21 01:39:14 PM  
One other little problem for Chinese manufacturing. It's mostly based on under-40s. By the time you've spent 20 years in dim lighting and repetitive motions for 7x12, you're a near-blind quivering husk. You aren't keeping up with Foxconn production speeds. Think ageism is a problem in the US? You either find something even lower paying (cooking, etc) not in the export industries or you're expected to remove yourself to your ancestral village and subsist.

China hasn't just been riding a wave of under-65s, it's been riding a wave of 20-somethings that were born just after the end of the Gang of Four years. That boom ends much sooner.
 
2012-09-21 01:45:52 PM  

BoxOfBees: This doesn't make any sense. How do people live that long without government assistance to pay for pharmaceuticals and housing and cable television? Surely the civilized West with its social welfare programs leads to people living longer lives?


Is it the part of the West where people try to get old on a 7000 calorie a day diet of junk food and all-you-can-eat buffets?

May be important.
 
2012-09-21 01:46:58 PM  

dittybopper: super_grass: A communist country that has no safety net, now I've seen it all.

They are CINOs, Communist In Name Only. So I guess they are Chinoccinos.


I'm going to order one of those from the Che T-Shirt wearing Barrista the time I am at the local coffee shop.
 
2012-09-21 01:49:00 PM  

Lawnchair: One other little problem for Chinese manufacturing. It's mostly based on under-40s. By the time you've spent 20 years in dim lighting and repetitive motions for 7x12, you're a near-blind quivering husk. You aren't keeping up with Foxconn production speeds. Think ageism is a problem in the US? You either find something even lower paying (cooking, etc) not in the export industries or you're expected to remove yourself to your ancestral village and subsist.

China hasn't just been riding a wave of under-65s, it's been riding a wave of 20-somethings that were born just after the end of the Gang of Four years. That boom ends much sooner.


And there is also a demographic problem: Because of the "One Child" policy, and the traditional preference for male children, there are tens of millions of marriage aged men with no women to marry. You *HAVE* to work their asses to death to keep them from rioting for lack of poon.

Also, much of the Chinese economy is built on a very fragile house of cards. That link is about one sector, but the problem of worthless commercial paper in the PRC is a general one, and it's not a secret to anyone who has looked into it. They've been able to grow themselves out of it so far, but that can't last forever, and once it starts to actually implode, it's going to be *BAD*.
 
2012-09-21 01:52:02 PM  
So once again old people are hampering society?
 
2012-09-21 01:54:57 PM  

Girion47: So once again old people are hampering society?


What is Mandarin for "Carousel", anyway?
 
2012-09-21 01:59:11 PM  

meat0918: So are we.


Yeah, but our birth rate is higher, and we have immigrants coming here who pay into the social security system*. China's birth rate is below replacement levels, and their immigration policy is much stricter, plus many younger, working-age Chinese want to study and work abroad.

Their life expectancy is about six years shorter though, so there's that.

*One topic that many discussions on immigration ignores...
 
2012-09-21 01:59:11 PM  

DECMATH: No safety net for the old? WTF kind of Communism is that?


There is not, and has never been, a Communist country. Countries that call themselves that are in fact authoritarian police states. In a Communist country the people would have all the power and leadership (of government and industry) would just be a job. In China people are basically a disposable resource, like cattle. I can't see how old people will bother China much since they just let them die (like everyone else except the rich and powerful).

The low birthrate is a hard one to remedy. Maybe forced breeding?

The funny part was when it talked about innovation. How innovative are a bunch of sheep that let themselves be ruled like slaves ever going to be? Cheap labor is all that country is ever going to have.

I hope someday soon technology advances enough to make Communism viable.
 
2012-09-21 02:02:31 PM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-21 02:04:47 PM  
So the 2nd most populist country in the world's population might drop a lot? That's freaking GREAT for the world. Seriously.

/India did pass them right?
 
2012-09-21 02:11:21 PM  
cdn103.iofferphoto.com
Nanna, I said, don't make a fuss,
If work don't kill me I'll get hit by a bus.
We are going to die, from all things or one thing,
Like my Daddy used to say, "it's always something."

Goodnight my little Roseanne Roseannadannas!
 
2012-09-21 02:16:40 PM  

LavenderWolf: AGING


BBC sez no.
 
2012-09-21 02:27:28 PM  
Another problem that is rapidly approaching is the result of the one child policy and that is the lack of females. As a family was only allowed one child and females were not as desirable as males, female fetuses were aborted in favor of males. Now that the children are growing up, there are going to be millions of males who cannot obtain a wife and they are going to be mighty unhappy as those hormones run thru their bodies with nowhere to do. Any suggestions, realistic ones, that is?
 
2012-09-21 02:29:58 PM  

Spindle: Sad, sobering article. I don't get why the headline has to laugh about this situation, is this a meme that I haven't caught onto?


img.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-21 02:30:57 PM  

phojo1946: Another problem that is rapidly approaching is the result of the one child policy and that is the lack of females. As a family was only allowed one child and females were not as desirable as males, female fetuses were aborted in favor of males. Now that the children are growing up, there are going to be millions of males who cannot obtain a wife and they are going to be mighty unhappy as those hormones run thru their bodies with nowhere to do. Any suggestions, realistic ones, that is?


Promise them a harem of 77 virgins in the afterlife?
 
2012-09-21 02:31:42 PM  

NutWrench: "I never thought about what would happen when I got old," he says. "My parents died of starvation. I couldn't even afford coffins for their bodies. My children grew up with no clothes. I had no money for those either."

I can't afford an iPhone 5, right now. :(


That's because you spent all your money on the iPhone 3, 3s, 4, 4s, iPad 2 and 2s. Get with the Google-revolution noob; one android is good for two years.
/soon to be Google fiber recipient
//sent from a Samsung Galaxy S3
 
2012-09-21 02:32:18 PM  
for some reason I'm thinking of Edward G. Robinson . . . something something Soylent something. Dunno
 
2012-09-21 02:37:25 PM  
They'd have some money today if they hadn't done all that a nappin' on the job and getting docked days of pay.
 
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