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(Williamson Daily News)   Most wanted couple from Bloody Mingo pose for the camera after arraignment. Describe themselves as modern day Bonnie and Clyde. Extra bonus, tattoo goodness. I hear banjos playing   (williamsondailynews.com) divider line 75
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2012-09-21 11:43:20 AM  

jabelar: ThisIsntMe: Amy Lynn Blanton was indicted on one count each of fraudulent schemes and one count of conspiracy to commit fraudulent schemes.

I'm perplexed. If found guilty of Fraudulent Schemes then it should be assumed there was a conspiracy to commit. If found not guilty of Fraudulent Schemes, can still convict on conspiracy? Just because you heard someone say, "I'm gonna fraudulently scheme someone?"

I expect it has to do with your level of involvement. For example, if you're swindling someone and I know about your plans and offer to help drive you to the scene and hide the cash, I didn't really commit fraud myself. So they make these various conspiracy and accessory laws to catch the supporting roles.


Generally speaking, "conspiracy to commit" crimes are not lesser included offenses like "attempted" crimes are. While it seems that they're all along the causal chain of talking about it, trying to do it, and actually doing it, conspiracy crimes usually have additional elements that make them chargeable as a separate offense.

Basically, it's thrown in as a backup charge that the prosecution knows it can prove so even if the elements of the actual crime are a bit shaky, there's an accomplice who's ready to sing like a bird to put away the suspect.

The example I always remember is a basic murder fact pattern. I tell you I want to kill somebody and ask you to get me a gun. You do so. There, we've committed conspiracy to commit murder. Next, I go track down the guy I want to kill, aim the gun at him, and pull the trigger. There, I've committed attempted murder, whether the gun works, or you loaded it with blanks without telling me, or the sights are so far off I break a window halfway down the block instead of hitting him. But let's say that the gun fires, the bullet leaves the barrel, and hits the guy in the heart, killing him. There, I've committed murder.

Now, why is conspiracy a separate charge? It isn't necessary that there be a conspiracy in order for there to be a murder. What if I got the gun myself and never told you what I was doing? There's no conspiracy at that point. Now, is there any way for me to murder the guy without attempting to murder him? Nope, which is why attempted murder is a lesser included offense and cannot be charged separately from murder.
 
2012-09-21 11:53:49 AM  
She's cute, I'd give her an opportunity to earn some Oxys...
 
2012-09-21 11:53:57 AM  

i upped my meds-up yours: PallMall: Marcintosh: The defendant's legal counsel was Attorney Jerry Lyall.


Seriously? Am I the only one? Seriously?

I guess so, WTF are you jabbering on about?

Lyall = Lie-all, I guess.

/It's pronounced Lyle, which isn't as funny.


That's what I figured, and a quick Google search shows Lyall -> Lyle -> L'Isle -> d'Insula -> "of the Island."

Couldn't find any references to Lyall -> Liar, Lying, Lie, etc.

Effing lame.
 
2012-09-21 11:53:58 AM  
you better redneckonize!
 
2012-09-21 11:55:36 AM  

jabelar: ThisIsntMe: Amy Lynn Blanton was indicted on one count each of fraudulent schemes and one count of conspiracy to commit fraudulent schemes.

I'm perplexed. If found guilty of Fraudulent Schemes then it should be assumed there was a conspiracy to commit. If found not guilty of Fraudulent Schemes, can still convict on conspiracy? Just because you heard someone say, "I'm gonna fraudulently scheme someone?"

I expect it has to do with your level of involvement. For example, if you're swindling someone and I know about your plans and offer to help drive you to the scene and hide the cash, I didn't really commit fraud myself. So they make these various conspiracy and accessory laws to catch the supporting roles.


So, they are just rounding up the "Yes" persons who wouldn't have actually comitted a crime on their own?
 
2012-09-21 12:00:15 PM  

ThisIsntMe: jabelar: ThisIsntMe: Amy Lynn Blanton was indicted on one count each of fraudulent schemes and one count of conspiracy to commit fraudulent schemes.

I'm perplexed. If found guilty of Fraudulent Schemes then it should be assumed there was a conspiracy to commit. If found not guilty of Fraudulent Schemes, can still convict on conspiracy? Just because you heard someone say, "I'm gonna fraudulently scheme someone?"

I expect it has to do with your level of involvement. For example, if you're swindling someone and I know about your plans and offer to help drive you to the scene and hide the cash, I didn't really commit fraud myself. So they make these various conspiracy and accessory laws to catch the supporting roles.

So, they are just rounding up the "Yes" persons who wouldn't have actually comitted a crime on their own?

sorry
phyrkrakr 'Splained it all away.
/sorry
 
2012-09-21 12:11:38 PM  

wellreadneck: He's probably got a "TUG LIFE" tattoo across his abdomen.
Too bad bluegrass doesn't have a gangsta/pillbilly category.


Good one!
 
2012-09-21 12:28:10 PM  

Marcintosh: The defendant's legal counsel was Attorney Jerry Lyall.


Seriously? Am I the only one? Seriously?


it's french for "the y'all". in the US it's usually just pronounced "y'all".
 
2012-09-21 12:32:22 PM  

wellreadneck: He's probably got a "TUG LIFE" tattoo across his abdomen.
Too bad bluegrass doesn't have a gangsta/pillbilly category.


Ask, and ye shall receive.
 
2012-09-21 12:41:40 PM  
Hope they can keep those smiles at night when he finds out why you never pick up the soap.
She goes on a date with Hildagarde and her home made broom handle strap-on.
 
2012-09-21 12:46:08 PM  

OldManDownDRoad: wellreadneck: He's probably got a "TUG LIFE" tattoo across his abdomen.
Too bad bluegrass doesn't have a gangsta/pillbilly category.

Ask, and ye shall receive.


Okay, did anyone get the joke here? It's not a typo(well, maybe it is). Tug River runs along the west side of Mingo.
 
2012-09-21 12:50:22 PM  

Matthew Keene: OldManDownDRoad: wellreadneck: He's probably got a "TUG LIFE" tattoo across his abdomen.
Too bad bluegrass doesn't have a gangsta/pillbilly category.

Ask, and ye shall receive.

Okay, did anyone get the joke here? It's not a typo(well, maybe it is). Tug River runs along the west side of Mingo.


It ain't. You saw what I did there.

Likin' the Ganstagrass. Now I see all sorts of bluegrass covers of rap songs, now that I've looked.
 
2012-09-21 12:50:34 PM  

Matthew Keene: OldManDownDRoad: wellreadneck: He's probably got a "TUG LIFE" tattoo across his abdomen.
Too bad bluegrass doesn't have a gangsta/pillbilly category.

Ask, and ye shall receive.

Okay, did anyone get the joke here? It's not a typo(well, maybe it is). Tug River runs along the west side of Mingo.


Yes, it's the site of the Hatfield/McCoy misunderstanding.

I still think "Gangstagrass" is hilarious.
 
2012-09-21 12:55:11 PM  

OldManDownDRoad: Matthew Keene: OldManDownDRoad: wellreadneck: He's probably got a "TUG LIFE" tattoo across his abdomen.
Too bad bluegrass doesn't have a gangsta/pillbilly category.

Ask, and ye shall receive.

Okay, did anyone get the joke here? It's not a typo(well, maybe it is). Tug River runs along the west side of Mingo.

Yes, it's the site of the Hatfield/McCoy misunderstanding.

I still think "Gangstagrass" is hilarious.


Yes it is!

BTW, i was program director of WBTH radio '76-'79. Mingo is third world. The station sale manager was Tennis Hatfield. He is now the sheriff of Mingo.
 
2012-09-21 12:57:08 PM  

OldManDownDRoad: Matthew Keene: OldManDownDRoad: wellreadneck: He's probably got a "TUG LIFE" tattoo across his abdomen.
Too bad bluegrass doesn't have a gangsta/pillbilly category.

Ask, and ye shall receive.

Okay, did anyone get the joke here? It's not a typo(well, maybe it is). Tug River runs along the west side of Mingo.

Yes, it's the site of the Hatfield/McCoy misunderstanding.

I still think "Gangstagrass" is hilarious.


My mom is from Mingo County and my dad is from Pike County. They've been feuding for almost sixty years.

and yes, it's hillbillarious.
 
2012-09-21 01:04:11 PM  

wellreadneck: OldManDownDRoad: Matthew Keene: OldManDownDRoad: wellreadneck: He's probably got a "TUG LIFE" tattoo across his abdomen.
Too bad bluegrass doesn't have a gangsta/pillbilly category.

Ask, and ye shall receive.

Okay, did anyone get the joke here? It's not a typo(well, maybe it is). Tug River runs along the west side of Mingo.

Yes, it's the site of the Hatfield/McCoy misunderstanding.

I still think "Gangstagrass" is hilarious.

My mom is from Mingo County and my dad is from Pike County. They've been feuding for almost sixty years.

and yes, it's hillbillarious.


Magic Mart/Maloney's/Piggly Wiggly/RH Hobbs Co/GC Murphy/Cantees Department Store/Hurley Drug/B&L Furniture/AW Cox Dept Store

Any of those ring a bell with you?

Old West Virginia joke. I go to AW Cox for my seersucker suit. I go to Sears for my.........................
 
2012-09-21 01:12:47 PM  

Matthew Keene: wellreadneck: OldManDownDRoad: Matthew Keene: OldManDownDRoad: wellreadneck:

Magic Mart/Maloney's/Piggly Wiggly/RH Hobbs Co/GC Murphy/Cantees Department Store/Hurley Drug/B&L Furniture/AW Cox Dept Store

Any of those ring a bell with you?

Old West Virginia joke. I go to AW Cox for my seersucker suit. I go to Sears for my.........................


Of course they do. I was in the first ever Hillbilly Days parade.

My dad likes to irritate my mom with this old joke. Man from WV and a man from Ky are walkin out of the holler. While passing an old shack, they notice a hound on the porch licking himself. Man from WV says ' Boy, I wish I could do that!" Man from Ky says " Better not, that dog'll bite ye."
 
2012-09-21 01:17:19 PM  

wellreadneck: Matthew Keene: wellreadneck: OldManDownDRoad: Matthew Keene: OldManDownDRoad: wellreadneck:

Magic Mart/Maloney's/Piggly Wiggly/RH Hobbs Co/GC Murphy/Cantees Department Store/Hurley Drug/B&L Furniture/AW Cox Dept Store

Any of those ring a bell with you?

Old West Virginia joke. I go to AW Cox for my seersucker suit. I go to Sears for my.........................

Of course they do. I was in the first ever Hillbilly Days parade.

My dad likes to irritate my mom with this old joke. Man from WV and a man from Ky are walkin out of the holler. While passing an old shack, they notice a hound on the porch licking himself. Man from WV says ' Boy, I wish I could do that!" Man from Ky says " Better not, that dog'll bite ye."


How do you spot a level headed Kentuckian? He has tobacco juice running out of BOTH sides of his mouth.
 
2012-09-21 01:23:42 PM  

Matthew Keene: wellreadneck: Matthew Keene: wellreadneck: OldManDownDRoad: Matthew Keene: OldManDownDRoad: wellreadneck:



How do you spot a level headed Kentuckian? He has tobacco juice running out of BOTH sides of his mouth.


Why can't WV win a football game? They can't keep their cheerleaders from grazing on the field.

Actually, I think that one is traditionally aimed at Ohio.
 
2012-09-21 01:26:46 PM  

Matthew Keene: wellreadneck: Matthew Keene: wellreadneck: OldManDownDRoad: Matthew Keene: OldManDownDRoad: wellreadneck:


How do you spot a level headed girl from Kentucky? She has tobacco juice running out of BOTH sides of her mouth.


That's how I always heard it.
 
2012-09-21 01:27:13 PM  

wellreadneck: Matthew Keene: wellreadneck: OldManDownDRoad: Matthew Keene: OldManDownDRoad: wellreadneck:

Magic Mart/Maloney's/Piggly Wiggly/RH Hobbs Co/GC Murphy/Cantees Department Store/Hurley Drug/B&L Furniture/AW Cox Dept Store

Any of those ring a bell with you?

Old West Virginia joke. I go to AW Cox for my seersucker suit. I go to Sears for my.........................

Of course they do. I was in the first ever Hillbilly Days parade.

My dad likes to irritate my mom with this old joke. Man from WV and a man from Ky are walkin out of the holler. While passing an old shack, they notice a hound on the porch licking himself. Man from WV says ' Boy, I wish I could do that!" Man from Ky says " Better not, that dog'll bite ye."


Not bad. Reminds me of something my dad told me and my brother, and I of course told my son:

A kid goes to his dad and says: "We have to get undressed at gym tomorrow and I'm worried about the size of my pecker. How big should it be?"

His old dad says: "Well, son, the Almighty made everything according to use, and most things are the right size. Like your leg, for instance. It's just long enough to reach the ground."

The son says: "So, my pecker just needs to be long enough to pee without sitting down?"

"No, it needs to be long enough to reach the ground."

/nothing like a smutty story passed through the generations
 
2012-09-21 01:34:31 PM  

OldManDownDRoad: wellreadneck: Matthew Keene: wellreadneck: OldManDownDRoad: Matthew Keene: OldManDownDRoad: wellreadneck:

Magic Mart/Maloney's/Piggly Wiggly/RH Hobbs Co/GC Murphy/Cantees Department Store/Hurley Drug/B&L Furniture/AW Cox Dept Store

Any of those ring a bell with you?

Old West Virginia joke. I go to AW Cox for my seersucker suit. I go to Sears for my.........................

Of course they do. I was in the first ever Hillbilly Days parade.

My dad likes to irritate my mom with this old joke. Man from WV and a man from Ky are walkin out of the holler. While passing an old shack, they notice a hound on the porch licking himself. Man from WV says ' Boy, I wish I could do that!" Man from Ky says " Better not, that dog'll bite ye."

Not bad. Reminds me of something my dad told me and my brother, and I of course told my son:

A kid goes to his dad and says: "We have to get undressed at gym tomorrow and I'm worried about the size of my pecker. How big should it be?"

His old dad says: "Well, son, the Almighty made everything according to use, and most things are the right size. Like your leg, for instance. It's just long enough to reach the ground."

The son says: "So, my pecker just needs to be long enough to pee without sitting down?"

"No, it needs to be long enough to reach the ground."

/nothing like a smutty story passed through the generations


"Water's cold!"

"And deep."

I, too, pass on my parents jokes. Every child in the family has fallen for the "How do you pronounce the capitol of Kentucky? Louisviile or Louisville?" joke.
 
2012-09-21 01:36:49 PM  

Matthew Keene: I think the Williamson phone book has five last names.



You're right

Hatfield, McCoy, Dingess and the Wild and Wonderful Whites are four of 'em
 
2012-09-21 01:39:00 PM  

Kurmudgeon: I see the link, open it saying to myself, "don't be from WV, don't be from WV....damn it."



Aw c'mon, you shoulda known Kurm, as this is right around the corner from some of your favorite sewer streams!

/I did the same thing : (
 
2012-09-21 05:55:01 PM  

MAYORBOB: Most Wanted In Mingo = Unwanted Elsewhere.


LOL one of the funniest things I've read on FARK.
 
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