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(CNN)   CNN lists top BBQ joints in the country. The majority in Texas? Check. None in any other southern states? Check. List on the left, whinin' on the right, y'all   (eatocracy.cnn.com) divider line 341
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2012-09-21 07:35:02 AM
As a Kansas City native: this list is terrible
 
2012-09-21 07:50:27 AM

Lucky LaRue: I mean, look at her! Just the fact that I said "her" and not "him" should be enough to disqualify her as an expert on real barbecue!


And she gets all gooey over beer can chicken when discussing BBQ. FAIL
 
2012-09-21 08:07:09 AM
Fox Bros BBQ in Decatur, GA should be on that list as well.
 
2012-09-21 08:19:30 AM

Lucky LaRue: Right, subby. Let's take the word of a soulless ginger chef in Boston as the final authority on barbecue.


[www.berkshirefinearts.com image 315x275]

I mean, look at her! Just the fact that I said "her" and not "him" should be enough to disqualify her as an expert on real barbecue!


I'd slather her in a mustard-based sauce and serve her with white bread & coleslaw.

IfyaknowwhatImean.
 
2012-09-21 08:20:38 AM
The comments from TFA says enough.
 
2012-09-21 08:43:31 AM

Lucky LaRue: I mean, look at her!


I don't know if I can put much weight in the opinion of anybody who's participated in a game show of chosen field, beit singing, dancing, or cooking.

/exception, of course, to Louisville's own Edward Lee, former Top Chef contestant and the man behind an AWESOME local restaurant (610 Magnolia)
 
2012-09-21 09:04:40 AM
The best BBQ is from North Carolina.

No, I don't care if your opinion is contrary to mine. You are wrong.

You.. are... wrong.
 
2012-09-21 09:14:40 AM
I haven't had BBQ much but when I have it's always doused in so much sauce that I can't taste anything else. Is it supposed to be this way?
 
2012-09-21 09:38:49 AM
BBQ food porn thread

Barfmaker: I haven't had BBQ much but when I have it's always doused in so much sauce that I can't taste anything else. Is it supposed to be this way?


Hell no. That means they're covering up their mistakes(too burnt, not juicy, not from Texas, etc)
 
2012-09-21 10:44:11 AM

Cythraul: You.. are... wrong.


Nope, I'm not wrong. The best barbecue is from EASTERN NC. You missed a word.
 
2012-09-21 11:07:02 AM
I once had a very nice woman explain to me that where she ws from in Michigan, they would simmer raw baby back ribs in Kraft Honey BBQ sauce. I could only stare incredulously.
 
2012-09-21 11:48:49 AM
Central BBQ in Memphis.
 
2012-09-21 11:49:26 AM
No Memphis? FAIL!
 
2012-09-21 11:50:04 AM
My ex-girlfriend tried to make ribs in the crock pot. I'm not sure if I broke up with her more because of that or the cheating.
 
2012-09-21 11:50:23 AM
Opinions on taste, by definition, can only be right or wrong inside the head of the opinion holder.
 
2012-09-21 11:50:40 AM
Everyone knows the only real BBQ is from Delaware.
 
2012-09-21 11:50:41 AM
If it has sauce on it, that means it wasn't cooked right. Good BBQ doesn't need sauce
 
2012-09-21 11:51:05 AM
Well that was stupid.
 
2012-09-21 11:51:06 AM

palladiate: Cythraul: You.. are... wrong.

Nope, I'm not wrong. The best barbecue is from EASTERN NC. You missed a word.


palladiate has a point there. Anyway, I can leave now, glad you folks have it covered.
 
2012-09-21 11:51:26 AM
BBQ MUST HAVE TOMATO
/screw you NC with your mustardy vinegar crap
//fsuck dry rub and dry BBQ.
///when you fsuck, do you go in dry???
////yes good BBQ is like sex so.......
 
2012-09-21 11:51:30 AM
Awful lot of "y'alls" in those comments.
 
2012-09-21 11:52:10 AM
Or whining in the article, subby
 
2012-09-21 11:52:18 AM
List is decent, 'cept it forgets Jasper's in East Waco. Damn. Just...damn.
 
2012-09-21 11:52:25 AM

Lost Thought 00: If it has sauce on it, that means it wasn't cooked right. Good BBQ doesn't need sauce


While I agree with you to a point, a good sauce can enhance perfectly cooked meat. Sauce cannot cover up mistakes in cooking or a crappy cut of meat.
 
2012-09-21 11:52:29 AM
Center Point BBQ in Hendersonville, TN has a giant wall covered in photos of the big time and small time stars that have eaten there. I go there regularly, and their BBQ is insane.
 
2012-09-21 11:52:44 AM
That vinegar-soaked crime scene you Southerners want to call BBQ isn't BBQ, it's a lie made flesh. Hang your heads in shame.
 
2012-09-21 11:52:55 AM
Memphis.

That is all.
 
2012-09-21 11:53:22 AM
Not one place in Memphis???? List is epic fail.
 
2012-09-21 11:53:40 AM

abhorrent1: No Memphis? FAIL!


Which restaurant? If you say Rendezvous I'm going to smack you through the internet. That place sucks.
 
2012-09-21 11:53:49 AM
hmm.. this is the second 'best bbq' article in a week.

this one's even less reliable.
 
2012-09-21 11:54:24 AM
Hill Country?

From New York City?

They get shipments of meat from Kreuz's, stupid list-maker.
 
2012-09-21 11:54:25 AM
The place in which I am from and have lived most of my life has a far superior style of seasoning and cooking meat slowly than all other places. Everyone who lives there says so.
 
2012-09-21 11:54:57 AM
No matter how much Texans want beef to be BBQ, it never will be.
 
2012-09-21 11:54:57 AM

TheDumbBlonde: I once had a very nice woman explain to me that where she ws from in Michigan, they would simmer raw baby back ribs in Kraft Honey BBQ sauce. I could only stare incredulously.


Sadly, that's true. There are a few places you can go for good BBQ in Michigan though. Zingerman's Roadhouse in Ann Arbor is the best in my opinion.
 
2012-09-21 11:55:00 AM
I'm from texas and I think this list is crap----texas for the beef, KC & memphis for the ribs, and south east coast/carolina style for the pulled pork. And as a bonus Pac Nw for the smoked fish. Each reagion has a specialty but it doesn't mean you can't find a place in each region that BBQ's everything pretty damn good. Hell, I know some pit masters who could put a rubber boot on a low, slow, smokey indirect fire and make you write home to momma about how damn good it was.
 
2012-09-21 11:55:17 AM

palladiate: Cythraul: You.. are... wrong.

Nope, I'm not wrong. The best barbecue is from EASTERN NC. You missed a word.


s3-media4.ak.yelpcdn.com
 
2012-09-21 11:55:18 AM
List fail. Here be honest BBQ: The Mean Pig BBQ 
You really can't go wrong when a place has a US patent on their beans. Need to go back...
 
2012-09-21 11:55:28 AM
Does anyone else like to eat their fill their bathtub with pulled pork bbq and eat it while sitting naked in aforementioned tub?

/slathered
 
2012-09-21 11:55:52 AM
#1 People will never agree on BBQ
#2 If you need sauce then you suck at BBQ
 
2012-09-21 11:55:57 AM

mr_bunny: Fox Bros BBQ in Decatur, GA should be on that list as well.


I've been there many times, fantastic BBQ! I live in Canton. They completely failed to mention KC, failed to mention North Carolina, which has some of the most amazing BBQ ever eaten by anyone anywhere. For flying spagetti monster's sake those libtards over at CNN can't get anything right can they?
 
2012-09-21 11:56:05 AM

born_yesterday: Does anyone else like to eat their fill their bathtub with pulled pork bbq and eat it while sitting naked in aforementioned tub?

/slathered


Next time, I'll wright it in Engrish.
 
2012-09-21 11:56:31 AM
I thought this was a repeat from the other day, but its snot.

MMMMM, Texas Mesquite/creosote smoked beef hide.
 
2012-09-21 11:56:42 AM
www.delish.com

Look at the deliciousness that is a North Carolina pulled pork sammich.
 
2012-09-21 11:56:45 AM
#1 Crazytrain's House Tonight. Getting ready to fire up the weber w/ some hickory smoked baby backs.
 
2012-09-21 11:57:51 AM
List fails, does not include Cooper's in Llano, TX.
 
2012-09-21 11:57:57 AM
FTFA: Hill Country Barbecue - New York City and Washington, DC

NEW YORK CITY?
 
2012-09-21 11:58:11 AM
Memphis BBQ

you're welcome
 
2012-09-21 11:58:12 AM
Enraged Muslims have nothing on enraged BBQ fans.

/If it ain't southern, it ain't BBQ...except for KC, they're cool.
 
2012-09-21 11:58:26 AM
images1.makefive.com

/And a tall Ape Hanger Ale on the side please.
 
2012-09-21 11:58:43 AM
I've never even had real barbecue outside of Western Kentucky.

Protip: Sloppy Joe is not the same as barbecue, and neither is that mustard-laced abomination.
 
2012-09-21 11:59:00 AM
Based only on places I've ever actually been to, I'd say, in order:

Gates (Kansas City)
Oklahoma Joe's (Kansas City)
Pappy's (Saint Louis)
Arthur Bryant's (Kansas City)
Rooster's (Saint Paul)

Honorable mention :
Jack Stack (Kansas City)

And then a bunch of other stuff... Never been to Texas other than the Airport, but I'm not a fan of any of the Carolina barbecue stuff...
 
2012-09-21 12:00:00 PM

Unlike the lying-assed twat who wrote this POS, I don't pretend to be able to evaluate every place in the country, but this one is good enough and is within walking distance

lh3.googleusercontent.com

No farking way that scrawny-assed chick knows dick about food - in order to really survey American BBQ she would have to be fifty years older and three hundred pounds fatter.

Not to mention the sheer idiocy of a woman pretending to know anything about BBQ in the first place...or her apparent refusal to acknowledge the wet.v dry debate.

Grumble! Rar! Dry rub good! Whar mah meet?
 
2012-09-21 12:00:03 PM
They're right. Texas BBQ is the best.
 
2012-09-21 12:00:03 PM

Citrate1007: #1 People will never agree on BBQ
#2 If you need sauce then you suck at BBQ


Werd to your short rack
 
2012-09-21 12:00:03 PM

Rapmaster2000: The place in which I am from and have lived most of my life has a far superior style of seasoning and cooking meat slowly than all other places. Everyone who lives there says so.


WRONG! The place I am from and lived most of my life has far superior style of seasoning and cooking meat slowly than your place. Everyone I know agrees with me.
 
2012-09-21 12:00:07 PM
B's BBQ in Greenville, NC. So good they renamed the entire street B's-BBQ Road.
 
2012-09-21 12:00:14 PM
Another rule - If you claim to have BBQ chicken, then you fail at BBQ
 
2012-09-21 12:00:27 PM

kobrakai: abhorrent1: No Memphis? FAIL!

Which restaurant? If you say Rendezvous I'm going to smack you through the internet. That place sucks.


Rendezvous isn't bad, but Corky's. And some place my wife brought ribs back for me when she was there. Can't remember the name but they were fantastic.
 
2012-09-21 12:00:30 PM

ChipNASA:
/screw you NC with your mustardy vinegar crap


Mustardy vinegar is almost entirely a SC thing. And unlike basically everything else to come out of that state, it ain't bad.
 
2012-09-21 12:00:35 PM
Vegan BBQ?
 
2012-09-21 12:01:19 PM

Cythraul: [www.delish.com image 400x400]

Look at the deliciousness that is a North Carolina pulled pork sammich.


Only one problem: the coleslaw is on the side instead of IN the sammich.
 
2012-09-21 12:02:17 PM
Has obviously never been to Country's BBQ or Macon Road BBQ in Columbus, GA. /ShamelessPlug
 
2012-09-21 12:02:25 PM
THIS is how you do BBQ *PROPERLY*
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-09-21 12:02:36 PM

doubled99: Everyone knows the only real BBQ is from Delaware.


Of course, when you boil those hot dogs on the gas BBQ over some fire stones to give it that authentic flavor it is exquisite.
 
2012-09-21 12:02:56 PM

xxmedium: Cythraul: [www.delish.com image 400x400]

Look at the deliciousness that is a North Carolina pulled pork sammich.

Only one problem: the coleslaw is on the side instead of IN the sammich.


I actually don't like coleslaw in my PP sammich. Come to think of it, I don't like coleslaw at all. I know, I'm a baaad southerner.
 
2012-09-21 12:03:18 PM
Texas has brisket down, but BBQ is pork.

The best tailgate BBQ is Boners BBQ. It's right next to Turner Field, so you can stop in before a Braves game and get a few pounds of pulled pork.
 
2012-09-21 12:03:51 PM
Tried real Texas brisket for the first time a couple weeks ago. I wasn't impressed. Give me a pulled pork sandwich any day of the week.
 
2012-09-21 12:03:54 PM
Nothing in Memphis? Kansas City? North Carolina?

This list is pretty lame.
 
2012-09-21 12:04:04 PM

USCLaw2010: No matter how much Texans want beef to be BBQ, it never will be.


No native Texans think beef is BBQ.
 
2012-09-21 12:04:09 PM

Cythraul: The best BBQ is from North Carolina.

No, I don't care if your opinion is contrary to mine. You are wrong.

You.. are... wrong.


Damn straight. Bubba's BBQ outside of Charlotte is one of my favorites. Memphis has several greats such as Central BBQ and Germantown Commissary (BBQ Nachos...nom). Only found a few "great" BBQ places in Georgia. Old Hickory House in Dunwoody, GA is fantastic. Texas BBQ is good, never actually been there.

I highly distrust any "BBQ" restaurant north of the Mason Dixon, especially those run by chefs. They call "Grilling" "Barbequing" up there! The horror!

/NC style is my favorite
//GA is a close second
///Brunswick stew > *
 
2012-09-21 12:04:16 PM

sid2112: mr_bunny: Fox Bros BBQ in Decatur, GA should be on that list as well.

I've been there many times, fantastic BBQ! I live in Canton. They completely failed to mention KC, failed to mention North Carolina, which has some of the most amazing BBQ ever eaten by anyone anywhere. For flying spagetti monster's sake those libtards over at CNN can't get anything right can they?


Any place that has a tree fall in it and the patrons just shift their chairs to keep eating has got to be good.
 
2012-09-21 12:04:32 PM
Back to the kitchen woman.. BBQ is a mans world...
 
2012-09-21 12:04:34 PM

Voiceofreason01: As a Kansas City native: this list is terrible


From NC...
Agree with you on quality of list...
 
2012-09-21 12:04:43 PM

USCLaw2010: No matter how much Texans want beef to be BBQ, it never will be.


How does it feel to be as wrong as a person could be?
 
2012-09-21 12:04:50 PM
No NC BBQ? Talk about a poorly reasoned list.
 
2012-09-21 12:05:07 PM

abhorrent1: kobrakai: abhorrent1: No Memphis? FAIL!

Which restaurant? If you say Rendezvous I'm going to smack you through the internet. That place sucks.

Rendezvous isn't bad, but Corky's. And some place my wife brought ribs back for me when she was there. Can't remember the name but they were fantastic.


The only people in Memphis that eat at Rendevous or Corky's are people that are not from Memphis. Not that they aren't any good, but there are so many other local bbq joints that are absolutely amazing and so much better.
 
2012-09-21 12:05:13 PM

Cythraul: xxmedium: Cythraul: [www.delish.com image 400x400]

Look at the deliciousness that is a North Carolina pulled pork sammich.

Only one problem: the coleslaw is on the side instead of IN the sammich.

I actually don't like coleslaw in my PP sammich. Come to think of it, I don't like coleslaw at all. I know, I'm a baaad southerner.


That's OK, I hate sweet ice tea. Surprised I haven't been asked to move elsewhere.
 
2012-09-21 12:05:50 PM
Live in DC, have been to Hill Country in Chinatown. The fact that it's on the list makes the whole list crap. I've had tons of better BBQ in KC and North Carolina.
 
2012-09-21 12:05:53 PM

jst3p: USCLaw2010: No matter how much Texans want beef to be BBQ, it never will be.

How does it feel to be as wrong as a person could be?



You haven't shared those particular feelings with me yet.
 
2012-09-21 12:07:12 PM

Voiceofreason01: As a Kansas City native: this list is terrible


Yeah - No Jack Stack? Gates?

Who the hell was tardporter kidding: Biatch probably can't spell BBQ.
 
2012-09-21 12:07:46 PM

LurkinFarker: ChipNASA:
/screw you NC with your mustardy vinegar crap


Mustardy vinegar is almost entirely a SC thing. And unlike basically everything else to come out of that state, it ain't bad.


A pulled pork sandwich (white sandwich bread only!) with a bit of mustard sauce, a side of cornbread, and hash.... heaven. Then again, slow-cooked TX brisket with a side of german-style potato salad is also wonderful.

SC BBQ joints are awesome because it is about the only place in the world that Mac and Cheese is listed on the menu under "vegetables"
 
2012-09-21 12:07:51 PM
use this

www.dwskountrycookers.com

and can make BBQ so tender and juicy you don't even want sauce.
 
2012-09-21 12:08:04 PM

Civil_War2_Time: USCLaw2010: No matter how much Texans want beef to be BBQ, it never will be.

No native Texans think beef is BBQ.


Both of you are terribly, terribly wrong, God have mercy on your misguided souls.
 
2012-09-21 12:08:19 PM

ChipNASA: BBQ KETCHUP MUST HAVE TOMATO
/screw you NC with your mustardy vinegar crap
//fsuck dry rub and dry BBQ.
///when you fsuck, do you go in dry???
////yes good BBQ is like sex so.......


Fixed for accuracy.
 
2012-09-21 12:08:45 PM

Another Government Employee: Any place that has a tree fall in it and the patrons just shift their chairs to keep eating has got to be good.


o1.aolcdn.com

/hot like Fox Brothers sauce
 
2012-09-21 12:09:06 PM

stonicus: Voiceofreason01: As a Kansas City native: this list is terrible

From NC...
Agree with you on quality of list...


Dry rub spare ribs with sauce on the side? No thanks. baby back drowning in sauce for me.
 
2012-09-21 12:10:08 PM

TheDumbBlonde: I once had a very nice woman explain to me that where she ws from in Michigan, they would simmer raw baby back ribs in Kraft Honey BBQ sauce. I could only stare incredulously.


Why do you think they shoot themselves in the heads there?
 
2012-09-21 12:10:30 PM

Another Government Employee: sid2112: mr_bunny: Fox Bros BBQ in Decatur, GA should be on that list as well.

I've been there many times, fantastic BBQ! I live in Canton. They completely failed to mention KC, failed to mention North Carolina, which has some of the most amazing BBQ ever eaten by anyone anywhere. For flying spagetti monster's sake those libtards over at CNN can't get anything right can they?

Any place that has a tree fall in it and the patrons just shift their chairs to keep eating has got to be good.


I think they make brisket as good as anyone does, but the smoked turkey and chicken they have is pretty amazing.

For 2 Texas brothers to move to Atlanta and bring Texas BBQ there, and succeed, is quite a thing.
 
2012-09-21 12:11:14 PM
Oh... this is going to be a fun thread...

l-userpic.livejournal.com
 
2012-09-21 12:11:18 PM

mr_bunny: Fox Bros BBQ in Decatur, GA should be on that list as well.


Live in Decatur and drive by Fox Bros twice a day. It's good, but I'd never consider putting it on a national top 10 list.

/makes better BBQ at home
//slashies
 
2012-09-21 12:11:36 PM
You're all fat and I feel sorry for you that your culinary tastes are so narrow.
 
2012-09-21 12:11:39 PM

Langdon Alger: I'm from texas and I think this list is crap----texas for the beef, KC & memphis for the ribs, and south east coast/carolina style for the pulled pork. And as a bonus Pac Nw for the smoked fish. Each reagion has a specialty but it doesn't mean you can't find a place in each region that BBQ's everything pretty damn good. Hell, I know some pit masters who could put a rubber boot on a low, slow, smokey indirect fire and make you write home to momma about how damn good it was.


You win.
 
2012-09-21 12:11:59 PM
MEMPHIS.

Central
Corky's
Cozy Corner
Interstate
Rendezvous
Tops

Damn.
 
2012-09-21 12:12:28 PM

kobrakai: abhorrent1: No Memphis? FAIL!

Which restaurant? If you say Rendezvous I'm going to smack you through the internet. That place sucks.


Trying too hard to be "that guy"
 
2012-09-21 12:13:55 PM
That list is every bit as good and accurate as their political coverage.

//Barbara Ann's Chicago FTW
 
2012-09-21 12:14:00 PM
cooldudestuff.com

hot
/not the bbq, but hot
 
2012-09-21 12:14:21 PM
CSB:

I worked for a catering company one summer, and I was serving the tea at an event. A kid came up to me and asked, "is this sweet tea?"
"Yes," I said.
He immediately replied, "No it isn't. I'm from North Carolina, and this isn't sweet tea. I know what sweet tea is." I suggested that, since we were in Virginia, our tea couldn't possibly be that different, but he was defiant and just said, "our barbeque is better, too."

/pulled pork BBQ is my favorite, for the record
 
2012-09-21 12:14:22 PM

JammerJim: Civil_War2_Time: USCLaw2010: No matter how much Texans want beef to be BBQ, it never will be.

No native Texans think beef is BBQ.

Both of you are terribly, terribly wrong, God have mercy on your misguided souls.


Semantics, fellow Texan. When was the last time you had BBQ beef?
 
2012-09-21 12:14:31 PM

moos: mr_bunny: Fox Bros BBQ in Decatur, GA should be on that list as well.

Live in Decatur and drive by Fox Bros twice a day. It's good, but I'd never consider putting it on a national top 10 list.

/makes better BBQ at home
//slashies


*rolls eyes*

Oh...I have no doubt.
 
2012-09-21 12:15:49 PM

jmadisonbiii: MEMPHIS.

Central
Corky's
Cozy Corner
Interstate
Rendezvous
Tops

Damn.


Next time you're in Memphis, head to Germantown and try Germantown Commissary. My parents live in Germantown and I've been to nearly every rib joint, Germantown Commissary is one of the best.
 
2012-09-21 12:16:18 PM

Citrate1007: #1 People will never agree on BBQ
#2 If you need sauce at a BBQ joint then you suck at BBQ


BBQ Rule 4: The exception for using sauce (must be made on same site as BBQ) is when you've pulled the leftovers out of the fridge 3 or more days following - and need to bring it back to life.
 
2012-09-21 12:16:32 PM
Never been to that place they list in Austin, will have to go sometime.

I tend to hit up Rudy's or the Salt Lick when i'm craving some bbq. Manns is passable, but I do not like their potato salad.
 
2012-09-21 12:16:39 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com

Angels in Savannah, GA
 
2012-09-21 12:16:43 PM

Perducci: You're all fat and I feel sorry for you that your culinary tastes are so narrow.


You must hate yourself to deny your craving for such ambrosia from the farm.
BTW, bean sprouts go great on BBQ too. Live a little.
 
2012-09-21 12:16:57 PM
Van's Pig Stand - Norman OK

http://www.pigstands.com/locations.shtml
 
2012-09-21 12:17:00 PM

Nightsweat: That list is every bit as good and accurate as their political coverage.

//Barbara Ann's Chicago FTW


I know it sounds cliche or touristy but I love Robinson's. And if you haven't had the rib-tips at Honey1, you haven't lived.
 
2012-09-21 12:17:09 PM
In no particular order, my favorites:

Oklahoma Joe's & Jack Stack (Kansas City)
Mike Anderson's (Dallas)
Iron Works (Austin)
Pappy's (St. Louis)
 
2012-09-21 12:17:10 PM
www.poolesbarbq.com

Website SUX

BBQ ROX!!
 
2012-09-21 12:18:54 PM

carnifex2005: They're right. Texas BBQ is the best.


Which style? Central Texas, West/South Texas, or East Texas? All are very distinct and a completely different experience.

Now, if you would have said "Texas has the best BEEF BBQ," you'd be correct.
 
2012-09-21 12:18:58 PM

ManRay: Texas has brisket down, but BBQ is pork.

The best tailgate BBQ is Boners BBQ. It's right next to Turner Field, so you can stop in before a Braves game and get a few pounds of pulled pork.


Any idiot can do pulled pork in a crock pot. It takes a real dedicated idiot to smoke a brisket properly.
 
2012-09-21 12:19:35 PM
We just had this thread the day before yesterday


Also: NEW YORK CITY?!
 
2012-09-21 12:19:42 PM
Uncle Billy's in Austin is the best bbq I've ever had in my life.

www.ohbeautifulbeer.com
 
2012-09-21 12:19:53 PM
roadsandkingdoms.com

Ya'll shut the hell UP!
 
2012-09-21 12:20:11 PM

ChipNASA: THIS is how you do BBQ *PROPERLY*
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 281x400]


FAIL

I do not see a juice puddle on the foil. "Fall off the bone tender" != turn to ashes when you eat them.
 
2012-09-21 12:20:37 PM

CharlieBrown: [roadsandkingdoms.com image 605x453]

Ya'll shut the hell UP!


THAT's how we do it.
 
2012-09-21 12:20:40 PM

Fano: Also: NEW YORK CITY?!


notsureifserious.jpg
 
2012-09-21 12:20:42 PM

The Southern Logic Company: I highly distrust any "BBQ" restaurant north of the Mason Dixon, especially those run by chefs


It's not that hard to figure out if a place does actual BBQ in the north. You can usually smell the smoke before you even enter the place. If you don't smell smoke at all, beware, you may be getting the "meat jello" variety of ribs.
 
2012-09-21 12:22:22 PM

ManRay: Texas has brisket down, but BBQ is pork.

The best tailgate BBQ is Boners BBQ. It's right next to Turner Field, so you can stop in before a Braves game and get a few pounds of pulled pork.


FALSE

BBQ originated with the use of Pork being dominant, but officially (as various regions have other items in abundance), BBQ can be Pork, Beef, Poultry, Fish, Llama, Frog, whatever.
 
2012-09-21 12:22:30 PM

abhorrent1: And if you haven't had the rib-tips at Honey1, you haven't lived


I bring a tips-and-links combo from Honey 1 to whatever Super Bowl party I go to every year. As good as the tips are, the chunks of hot links disappear even more quickly.
 
2012-09-21 12:22:50 PM

Cythraul: xxmedium: Cythraul: [www.delish.com image 400x400]

Look at the deliciousness that is a North Carolina pulled pork sammich.

Only one problem: the coleslaw is on the side instead of IN the sammich.

I actually don't like coleslaw in my PP sammich. Come to think of it, I don't like coleslaw at all. I know, I'm a baaad southerner.


It's not your fault. Most people can't make slaw worth a damn. Most of the time I encounter it, it's just cabbage slathered with mayonnaise and sugar. You need mayo, mustard, and a touch of sugar, not to mention a little vinegar. Add some hot salt and you've got something good enough to eat by itself.
 
2012-09-21 12:24:57 PM

TheDumbBlonde: I once had a very nice woman explain to me that where she ws from in Michigan, they would simmer raw baby back ribs in Kraft Honey BBQ sauce. I could only stare incredulously.


Well, that's the way we had ribs when I was growing up, but we've come a long way since then. Where I'm from in Michigan, we dry rub ribs, shoulder and brisket and then slow cook the meat at 200-degrees while lovingly wafting hickory, cherry and applewood smoke over the glistening lumps of protein.

Our sauce is a ketchup/vinegar sauce balanced with a bit of maple syrup and spiced up with sambal oolek. We lightly sauce the pulled pork, glaze the ribs, and serve the brisket with its natural juices.

I'm cooking 30 pounds of ribs and 10 pounds of chicken thighs tomorrow for a birthday party at the neighbors.
 
2012-09-21 12:25:22 PM

GQueue: The Southern Logic Company: I highly distrust any "BBQ" restaurant north of the Mason Dixon, especially those run by chefs

It's not that hard to figure out if a place does actual BBQ in the north. You can usually smell the smoke before you even enter the place. If you don't smell smoke at all, beware, you may be getting the "meat jello" variety of ribs.


Not saying I'm closed minded, I just distrust it. That is a good rule of thumb for any BBQ restaurant. If you don't smell smoke when you're walking up, beware.
 
2012-09-21 12:26:01 PM

PallMall: ChipNASA: THIS is how you do BBQ *PROPERLY*
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 281x400]

FAIL

I do not see a juice puddle on the foil. "Fall off the bone tender" != turn to ashes when you eat them.


You miss the point of that post.


(look at the photo name)

/trolllilolololololololo

+10/10 YES!!
 
2012-09-21 12:26:10 PM

jayhawk88: That vinegar-soaked crime scene you Southerners want to call BBQ isn't BBQ, it's a lie made flesh. Hang your heads in shame.


This, Kansas City I'm lookin' at you.

Seriously, actual douche bags from the 60s have less vinegar in them.
 
2012-09-21 12:27:20 PM
I agree with the "you can smell the smokey goodness before you see it" way to know you're getting in to some good BBQ. Also if the pit is constructed out of something completely random and improvised is a good sign as well. Some of the best BBQ I've ever had came out of a pit that was made with the trunk of an old Lincoln Continental. And if the place looks like it's about to fall down is another good sign.
 
2012-09-21 12:28:25 PM
s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com

Pecos Bill's BBQ
1551 Victory Blvd
Glendale, CA 91201
(818) 241-2750
since 1946

Yelp Rating 3.5 stars
 
2012-09-21 12:28:32 PM
As an aside. I'm rather pleased to have seen more than one BBQ link greenlit in the last few days.

We need a BBQ tab on Fark.
 
2012-09-21 12:28:37 PM
go to the poor parts of south carolina. find a town, go to where the black folk are eating. you have just found better bbq than 9/10th of anywhere else period.
 
2012-09-21 12:29:12 PM

trappedspirit: kobrakai: abhorrent1: No Memphis? FAIL!

Which restaurant? If you say Rendezvous I'm going to smack you through the internet. That place sucks.

Trying too hard to be "that guy"


Nope. The one time I went to Memphis I was told by several people to go there and was severely disappointed.
 
2012-09-21 12:29:22 PM
There are effectively only four good places to get BBQ in the world:

www.ncbbqsociety.com

racersreunion.com

farm4.static.flickr.com

3.bp.blogspot.com 

And Ed Mitchell doesn't count; he doesn't cook any of the pigs at The Pit, or whatever Raleigh calls that overpriced joint these days.
 
2012-09-21 12:30:47 PM

Cythraul: The best BBQ is from North Carolina.

No, I don't care if your opinion is contrary to mine. You are wrong.

You.. are... wrong.


THIIIIIIS!!!
 
2012-09-21 12:31:07 PM

Double_B: Uncle Billy's in Austin is the best bbq Beer I've ever had in my life.

[www.ohbeautifulbeer.com image 604x594]


As a weekly drinker at UB, I would put their BBQ at about 6 out of 10, but their Hop Zombie IPA at about a 9.9 out of 10.

Texas BBQ = Smoked Ribs & Brisket = Food of The Gods. Black's, Cooper's, Salt Lick, Franklins, J. Mueller's, these are houses of worship.

But even I think this list is way too biased.
 
2012-09-21 12:32:58 PM
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2012-09-21 12:33:09 PM
Austinite here. I don't go apeshiat over the Lockhart BBQ places. I don't need to go that far to get some mighty fine smoked meat goodness. My favorites are Mann's Smokehouse and Chief's BBQ. Chief's delivers BBQ! Do you hear me? BBQ delivered to your house. 

chiefsbbq.com
 
2012-09-21 12:33:39 PM
the truth is once you've had really good, competition style, BBQ you'll realize restaurant BBQ isn't that good. you just can't mass produce that high quality. it would cost you $30 a plate.
 
2012-09-21 12:34:24 PM
Cooper's BBQ in Llano.

/off to RTFA...
//List failed, but at least Kreuz Market got a mention 
///It's all about the meat
 
2012-09-21 12:34:57 PM

kobrakai: trappedspirit: kobrakai: abhorrent1: No Memphis? FAIL!

Which restaurant? If you say Rendezvous I'm going to smack you through the internet. That place sucks.

Trying too hard to be "that guy"

Nope. The one time I went to Memphis I was told by several people to go there and was severely disappointed.


Central BBQ, Three Dancing Pigs, or elsewhere. We had a lot of good recommendations in the last thread.

I liked the ruling that you should smell the smoke outside, you should be vaguely worried about being knifed, and an old black man needs to be running the pit.

Weird List though. Texas x9 plus some place in NYC. Huh. To each their own with varieties of bbq, you just can't go wrong with different styles.
 
2012-09-21 12:35:07 PM

Frosty_Icehole: It's not your fault. Most people can't make slaw worth a damn. Most of the time I encounter it, it's just cabbage slathered with mayonnaise and sugar. You need mayo, mustard, and a touch of sugar, not to mention a little vinegar. Add some hot salt and you've got something good enough to eat by itself.


Pretty similar to what I use -- cabbage, carrot, red onion, mayo, sugar, vinegar, whole-grain mustard, salt & pepper, some ground cayenne, and then a few dashes of tabasco at a time until I think it's good to go. Last picnic/bbq I brought it to I had at least five people ask me for the recipe. Goes great with damn near any BBQ or grilled food too - between the sweet of the sugar, the creaminess of the mayo, the acidity of the vinegar, and the spice of the mustard, cayenne and tabasco, there's something that connects with just about everything in it.
 
2012-09-21 12:35:28 PM

palladiate: Cythraul: You.. are... wrong.

Nope, I'm not wrong. The best barbecue is from EASTERN NC. You missed a word.


+1

/ where the weak grow strong and the strong grow great
 
2012-09-21 12:37:46 PM

LurkinFarker: ChipNASA:
/screw you NC with your mustardy vinegar crap


Mustardy vinegar is almost entirely a SC thing. And unlike basically everything else to come out of that state, it ain't bad.


Yeah, mustard BBQ is for sandlappers. But my grandmother was from Gaffney, so she would occasionally make mustard sauce just for a change. However, on her marriage to my grandfather she did two wise things: shift from the Baptis church to the Presbyterian, and switch from mustard to vinegar-pepper sauce.

/tomato sauce is ketchup
 
2012-09-21 12:37:50 PM

clintster: FTFA: Hill Country Barbecue - New York City and Washington, DC

NEW YORK CITY?


...and we're done.
 
2012-09-21 12:38:26 PM

starleen: Austinite here. I don't go apeshiat over the Lockhart BBQ places. I don't need to go that far to get some mighty fine smoked meat goodness. My favorites are Mann's Smokehouse and Chief's BBQ. Chief's delivers BBQ! Do you hear me? BBQ delivered to your house. 

[chiefsbbq.com image 850x637]


The smoke ring on that brisket looks a little weak there, podnuh.
 
2012-09-21 12:38:35 PM
Reading these lists and these threads gives me a reason to be thankful I live just wet of Austin. It's generally a five minute drive to just get pretty good BBQ and less than hour to about a dozen "Best of" places in Texas, not counting tailgiting on Saturdays and firing up the smoker on holiday weekends.
 
2012-09-21 12:39:45 PM

Texian: just wet of Austin


*West* of Austin. Wet in Austin is a whole other subject.
 
2012-09-21 12:40:15 PM

PallMall: carnifex2005: They're right. Texas BBQ is the best.

Which style? Central Texas, West/South Texas, or East Texas? All are very distinct and a completely different experience.

Now, if you would have said "Texas has the best BEEF BBQ," you'd be correct.


Indeed. I've had a lot of very good barbecue in South Texas (San Antonio has a ton of good barbecue joints). But I've been pleasantly surprised by the remarkably good barbecue in rural Central Texas (which has far fewer barbecue joints than SA). Central Texas tends to serve the brisket with white bread instead of flour tortillas, and the meat is more smoky than sweet.

Beef or pork? Doesn't matter. I like barbecue of all kinds. What sucks is living in a part of the country that has NO barbecue joints. Been there, done that, never again.
 
2012-09-21 12:40:46 PM

mr_bunny: For 2 Texas brothers to move to Atlanta and bring Texas BBQ there, and succeed, is quite a thing.


Exactly.

Pulling off Texas style brisket in Georgia is not an easy thing. Daddy D's is just down the street yet Fox Brothers still has a wait for dinner.
 
2012-09-21 12:40:49 PM

Cythraul: [www.delish.com image 400x400]

Look at the deliciousness that is a North Carolina pulled pork sammich.


Actually, the picture in the article is classic BBQ Tray presentation in NC. We don't "pull pork" here and the above doesn't look "classic" to me.
 
2012-09-21 12:40:50 PM

TheraTx: the truth is once you've had really good, competition style, BBQ you'll realize restaurant BBQ isn't that good. you just can't mass produce that high quality. it would cost you $30 a plate


$36, if you locate it in a high-rent area of Chicago and have been on one of those BBQ reality shows. Chicago Q has their regular ribs and then a limited quantity of "competition" ribs.

No, I haven't eaten there, so don't ask me if it's any good.
 
2012-09-21 12:41:09 PM
Didn't we just have this discussion? Link
 
2012-09-21 12:41:34 PM

Citrate1007: #1 People will never agree on BBQ
#2 If you need sauce then you suck at BBQ


The reason people will never agree on BBQ is that there are so many flavoring and seasoning options. Most of the BBQ places I have been to in Memphis get the meat right. It's not hard. Just takes time and therefore preparation and planning. The next part is the sauce or rub. Some places will serve you pulled, smoked meat and let you flavor it how you want from a variety of house blended sauces. I've used this method at home when serving several people. The meat is great just smoked. But if you are against adding some heat or sweet then we are going to have to agree to understand that you are wrong. :P
 
2012-09-21 12:41:59 PM

PallMall: starleen: Austinite here. I don't go apeshiat over the Lockhart BBQ places. I don't need to go that far to get some mighty fine smoked meat goodness. My favorites are Mann's Smokehouse and Chief's BBQ. Chief's delivers BBQ! Do you hear me? BBQ delivered to your house. 

[chiefsbbq.com image 850x637]

The smoke ring on that brisket looks a little weak there, podnuh.


Sharp knees?
 
2012-09-21 12:42:31 PM

UNC_Samurai: There are effectively only four good places to get BBQ in the world:

[www.ncbbqsociety.com image 432x324]

[racersreunion.com image 550x412]

[farm4.static.flickr.com image 500x332]

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 850x399] 

And Ed Mitchell doesn't count; he doesn't cook any of the pigs at The Pit, or whatever Raleigh calls that overpriced joint these days.


KINGS!!!! Oh god I miss Kings. Living in Colorado is nice until you get that craving for pulled pork. Real eastern CarloinaBBQ does not exist in this desolate land.
 
2012-09-21 12:42:34 PM
I have no idea who the owners of Meshack's over in Garland have fellated to garner so much love. I went by there and tried it. According to my binary rating system, it doesn't suck. My favorite around here is Mac's Barbecue on Main Street in Dallas.
 
2012-09-21 12:42:35 PM

GoTarHeels: palladiate: Cythraul: You.. are... wrong.

Nope, I'm not wrong. The best barbecue is from EASTERN NC. You missed a word.

+1

/ where the weak grow strong and the strong grow great


Ab-so-farkin'-lutely.

There's good evidence that French explorers watching Native Americans smoke meat on the sand of what is now Carolina Beach south of Wilmington were the first Europeans to witness barbeque. They used a vinegar they made from sour apples to help preserve the meat.

Any list of BBQ joints should start with Jackson's Red Oak and Flip's in Wilmington and work westward including King's and Parker's and Stameys. By the time you get to Lexington, you might have your list of 100 restaurants filled, but you can find a few there to help pad things out.

People who put ketchup on beef and call it BBQ should be ashamed.
 
2012-09-21 12:43:01 PM

UNC_Samurai: There are effectively only four good places to get BBQ in the world:

[www.ncbbqsociety.com image 432x324]

[racersreunion.com image 550x412]

[farm4.static.flickr.com image 500x332]

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 850x399] 

And Ed Mitchell doesn't count; he doesn't cook any of the pigs at The Pit, or whatever Raleigh calls that overpriced joint these days.


This may be the most properly and thoroughly documented and intelligent post I have ever read on Fark.
 
2012-09-21 12:43:04 PM
List fails without anything from Oklahoma.

Billy Sims is a chain BBQ and better than almost any other i've been too in other parts of the country.

Wild Horse Mountain, is located on Wild horse mountain, just south of Sallisaw, Ok

Probably best in the state.
 
2012-09-21 12:43:23 PM
You can't have a list without Kansas City and Memphis, or even this great sauce from the best BBQ in Ponca City Oklahoma (even if it has a suggestive name).
hospitablyyours.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-09-21 12:44:01 PM

ManRay: mr_bunny: For 2 Texas brothers to move to Atlanta and bring Texas BBQ there, and succeed, is quite a thing.

Exactly.

Pulling off Texas style brisket in Georgia is not an easy thing. Daddy D's is just down the street yet Fox Brothers still has a wait for dinner.


My inlaws, being from SC, had never seen brisket before they first came to my house. Now they love it.

BBQ to them is pulled pork.

I lean toward ribs and brisket, but I am no BBQ snob in that I love all BBQ.
 
2012-09-21 12:45:46 PM
BBQ is the only redeeming quality of the south. When they rise again, and we tell them to please, please go, we will ensure that the United States military continues to allow us unfettered access to the meat.

sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2012-09-21 12:46:16 PM
I will give props to TX for Stubb's BBQ sauce. Otherwise I still think we should wall them off from the rest of the country.
 
2012-09-21 12:46:28 PM

Voiceofreason01: As a Kansas City native: this list is terrible


THIS.
You have to wait two to three hours in line to get Oklahoma Joe's, and those people are by no means slow. The fact that the list is all Texas leads me to believe the author is too. I've been to Texas, their Bbq blows, even in Plano.
 
2012-09-21 12:46:51 PM
No Memphis = FAIL. Or North Carolina.

And for the record, the Rendezvous does not have the best ribs, it's an awesome atmosphere, and their sauce and dry rub is fantastic. Plus, they invented BBQ nachos.
 
2012-09-21 12:47:38 PM
Didn't we already have this thread earlier this week?
 
2012-09-21 12:47:47 PM

error 303: Based only on places I've ever actually been to, I'd say, in order:

Gates (Kansas City)
Oklahoma Joe's (Kansas City)
Pappy's (Saint Louis)
Arthur Bryant's (Kansas City)
Rooster's (Saint Paul)

Honorable mention :
Jack Stack (Kansas City)

And then a bunch of other stuff... Never been to Texas other than the Airport, but I'm not a fan of any of the Carolina barbecue stuff...


As you are from Missouri too, next time your rolling to St. Louis, stop in St. Peters and try Lil Mickey's Memphis BBQ. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

/Eating PP sammy from there right now
 
2012-09-21 12:47:49 PM
i45.tinypic.com


I wasn't sure I could stay in San Francisco. Then I found Memphis Minnies. 2 months lather I moved three blocks away.
 
2012-09-21 12:48:25 PM

clintster: FTFA: Hill Country Barbecue - New York City and Washington, DC

NEW YORK CITY?


ytrewq.com
 
2012-09-21 12:50:39 PM

abhorrent1: I will give props to TX for Stubb's BBQ sauce. Otherwise I still think we should wall them off from the rest of the country.


My father in law keeps the good whiskey for him, and the "regular" whiskey for everyone else.

I keep the Stubbs for me, and the "regular" sauce for everyone else.

/ Served on the side.
 
2012-09-21 12:51:33 PM
first time i went down South i was horribly disappointed to find joint after joint selling so-called BBQ that was pulled pork sammiches. so farking sad. toothless morans.
 
2012-09-21 12:51:35 PM

fugeeface: List fail. Here be honest BBQ: The Mean Pig BBQ 
You really can't go wrong when a place has a US patent on their beans. Need to go back...


Nice! And the Mean Pig isn't even the best BBQ in Arkansas (that'd be Whole Hog, the restaurant the founder's wife made him build to house all the competitive BBQ trophies his team won).
 
2012-09-21 12:51:37 PM
BS, the best BBQ joint in the world is in My own back yard!!

home.comcast.net 


//Mmmmm, ribs
 
2012-09-21 12:51:47 PM
y'all want to know something crazy:

best bbq I ever had was in mexico for a wedding. they dug a pit in the ground and smoked a whole goat in it for maybe a day or two.

there are a million different types of bbq. i believe that any one of them, done correctly, can be amazing. thus, any future bbq lists should define the criteria of comparison

for example, best bbq of this style, etc. it's useless to argue texas bbq is better the nc bbq. they're different animals, woods, techniques, styles, sauces, everything.

comparing the world of bbq is like compared rack of lamb to a ribeye. it's a pointless comparison
 
2012-09-21 12:51:52 PM
GOD TIER:

www.mcdonalds.com
 
2012-09-21 12:52:44 PM
Good stuff in this thread...taking notes and will visit some of these joints.
 
2012-09-21 12:53:01 PM
The best BBQ I've ever had was this BBQ rib sandwich they do at my local McDonald's. They only bring it out for a few weeks out of the year, because the cooking of it would overwhelm them on an everyday basis, but dang it is worth it.
 
2012-09-21 12:53:53 PM

Rent Party: abhorrent1: I will give props to TX for Stubb's BBQ sauce. Otherwise I still think we should wall them off from the rest of the country.

My father in law keeps the good whiskey for him, and the "regular" whiskey for everyone else.

I keep the Stubbs for me, and the "regular" sauce for everyone else.

/ Served on the side.


stubbs makes an awesome sauce. furthermore, stubbs is an awesome live venue joint. however, it's a terrible place for barbecue. they've really let the restaurant quality slide

/ yeah, stubbs is a bar. btw.
 
2012-09-21 12:54:01 PM

Voiceofreason01: As a Kansas City native: this list is terrible


Not a single KC reference. Not one. I too live in KC, and I am shocked...SHOCKED that KC wasn't even mentioned....

I mean what else is KC known for? Jazz? Fountains? Google Fiber? SRSLY.
 
2012-09-21 12:55:50 PM

pute kisses like a man: y'all want to know something crazy:

best bbq I ever had was in mexico for a wedding. they dug a pit in the ground and smoked a whole goat in it for maybe a day or two.


That is barbacoa. It is also West and South Texas' version of BBQ.
 
2012-09-21 12:56:07 PM

mr_bunny: My inlaws, being from SC, had never seen brisket before they first came to my house. Now they love it.

BBQ to them is pulled pork.

I lean toward ribs and brisket, but I am no BBQ snob in that I love all BBQ.



I would probably agree more with your in-laws about what BBQ is and isn't. But Fox Bros. made me change my mind about brisket. One Star (the other Texas place in town) did not.
 
2012-09-21 12:56:16 PM
Best BBQ ribs I ever ate were on Maui, at Al's Bar. Go figure.

/yes, there was alcohol involved.
 
2012-09-21 12:56:17 PM

ChipNASA: THIS is how you do BBQ *PROPERLY*
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 281x400]


With respect, since when did McRibs from McDonald's evar be considered good BBQ?



/Hold the pickle
//I keed
 
2012-09-21 12:56:40 PM

uksocal: The best BBQ I've ever had was this BBQ rib sandwich they do at my local McDonald's. They only bring it out for a few weeks out of the year, because the cooking of it would overwhelm them on an everyday basis, but dang it is worth it.


You ain't from around here... are ya, boy?
 
2012-09-21 12:56:41 PM
I have had great BBQ in:

-Georgia
-North Carolina
-South Carolina
-Tennessee
-West Virginia
-hell even California

But every frickin' time I go to Texas I try to find decent bbq. Every Frickin time it sucks...I don't get it. I literally can rarely finish it (which I love to eat and hate to waste food)

So yes Texas Barbeque sucks.
 
2012-09-21 12:58:12 PM
Ya'll, along with CNN are wrong.

The best BBQ in the universe is what I make from a secret recipe.

The secret is Jack Daniels.
 
2012-09-21 12:58:17 PM

Cythraul



The best BBQ is from North Carolina.

No, I don't care if your opinion is contrary to mine. You are wrong.

You.. are... wrong.


Did you say something?
 
2012-09-21 12:59:11 PM

2KanZam: I have had great BBQ in:

-Georgia
-North Carolina
-South Carolina
-Tennessee
-West Virginia
-hell even California

But every frickin' time I go to Texas I try to find decent bbq. Every Frickin time it sucks...I don't get it. I literally can rarely finish it (which I love to eat and hate to waste food)

So yes Texas Barbeque sucks.


*checks profile*

Ahhhh, WV.

You get a pass on this one. It is my understanding that the taste buds on most West Virginas haven't evolved past Opossum, Rat, Racoon, etc due to the limitations of the gene pool.
 
2012-09-21 12:59:33 PM

PallMall: carnifex2005: They're right. Texas BBQ is the best.

Which style? Central Texas, West/South Texas, or East Texas? All are very distinct and a completely different experience.

Now, if you would have said "Texas has the best BEEF BBQ," you'd be correct.


Now that you mention it, all I've ate for Texas BBQ was beef. I'm a Canadian who travels a lot for work. I've been to KC, Memphis, St. Louis, tons of other cities in the South and my favourite BBQ always was in Texas (been to San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, Houston and other smaller towns in between) and I always ended up preferring the the BBQ beef brisket. I never liked beef brisket until I went to Texas. It was quite the revelation. I like it better than pork BBQ in other places and I never thought that would have been the case.
 
2012-09-21 01:00:19 PM
www.kansastravel.org
farm1.staticflickr.com
images.travelpod.com
www.atlfoodsnob.com
0.tqn.com

There's no need to plod around the giant state of Texas to choke down a bit of dry brisket doused in Kraft sauce and then follow it up with some jalapeno sausage. Here in one city, Kansas City, we have our pick of world class BBQ because we better meat and better sauces. You can keep your list if it makes "y'all" feel better!
 
2012-09-21 01:01:36 PM
Came here expecting to see Lockhart on the list, leaving satisfied. The same kind of satisfied you feel after eating any Lockhart BBQ.

/you don't win friends with salad!
 
2012-09-21 01:03:18 PM

PallMall: barbacoa

= barbecue.

they're cognates. that was all that my point was supposed to make. in the south, people have taken a dogmatic and very limiting approach to barbecue.

personally, I prefer to broaden my culinary horizons as opposed to limit them. these bbq arguments always tick me off, because it's too much about style and never about substance.

to me, bbq is cooking dead things with fire/smoke. every region has a special way of doing it. if someone were to say their favorites, I'd be happy, but instead it's a long debacle about how everyone else is wrong.

my only standard is taste. history is only helpful if it tastes better.
 
2012-09-21 01:03:57 PM

carnifex2005: PallMall: carnifex2005: They're right. Texas BBQ is the best.

Which style? Central Texas, West/South Texas, or East Texas? All are very distinct and a completely different experience.

Now, if you would have said "Texas has the best BEEF BBQ," you'd be correct.

Now that you mention it, all I've ate for Texas BBQ was beef. I'm a Canadian who travels a lot for work. I've been to KC, Memphis, St. Louis, tons of other cities in the South and my favourite BBQ always was in Texas (been to San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, Houston and other smaller towns in between) and I always ended up preferring the the BBQ beef brisket. I never liked beef brisket until I went to Texas. It was quite the revelation. I like it better than pork BBQ in other places and I never thought that would have been the case.


There are ribs, pork, etc on the BBQ menus in Texas, but beef is by far the big deal down here. That and smoked sausage. You'll find a lot of the ribs are beef as well. Texas is where they invented cows for eatin' so brisket and real fajitas are in abundance here.
 
2012-09-21 01:04:13 PM

pute kisses like a man: Rent Party: abhorrent1: I will give props to TX for Stubb's BBQ sauce. Otherwise I still think we should wall them off from the rest of the country.

My father in law keeps the good whiskey for him, and the "regular" whiskey for everyone else.

I keep the Stubbs for me, and the "regular" sauce for everyone else.

/ Served on the side.

stubbs makes an awesome sauce. furthermore, stubbs is an awesome live venue joint. however, it's a terrible place for barbecue. they've really let the restaurant quality slide

/ yeah, stubbs is a bar. btw.


Yeah, great sauce doesn't = Great BBQ. Take Rendezvous. Great sauce, Meh, on the food. Finding a place that does both right is the trick.
There's a place about 4 blocks from my house called Johnny's. You can smell it a mile away. It's run by some 400 year-old black woman with a heavy southern accent. I had high hopes, but was severely disappointed. Only ate there once. The home made sauce was great but they don't sell it separately.
 
2012-09-21 01:04:26 PM
Really the best BBQ is what you grew up with. Because good BBQ is about more than the meat, its about things that happened while the meat was being cooked or when it was being enjoyed.

So I'll take you NC pulled pork, memphis ribs, texas brisket and KC sauce soaked pork and ribs along with anything your dad cooked in the backyard now and so many years ago.

It was the best.
 
2012-09-21 01:04:29 PM

PallMall: Citrate1007: #1 People will never agree on BBQ
#2 If you need sauce at a BBQ joint then you suck at BBQ

BBQ Rule 4: The exception for using sauce (must be made on same site as BBQ) is when you've pulled the leftovers out of the fridge 3 or more days following - and need to bring it back to life.


What's this "leftovers" you speak of?
 
2012-09-21 01:06:07 PM

corch: ChipNASA: THIS is how you do BBQ *PROPERLY*
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 281x400]

With respect, since when did McRibs from McDonald's evar be considered good BBQ?



/Hold the pickle
//I keed


You're close.....it's Tofu.
 
2012-09-21 01:06:30 PM
This is the quality of CNN's barbeque coverage, which should give you an idea of how accurately CNN covers other issues.
 
2012-09-21 01:07:32 PM

ManRay: mr_bunny: My inlaws, being from SC, had never seen brisket before they first came to my house. Now they love it.

BBQ to them is pulled pork.

I lean toward ribs and brisket, but I am no BBQ snob in that I love all BBQ.


I would probably agree more with your in-laws about what BBQ is and isn't. But Fox Bros. made me change my mind about brisket. One Star (the other Texas place in town) did not.


Community BBQ out there is also not too shabby. I can't say they are as good as Fox Bros, but they are pretty darn good.
 
2012-09-21 01:08:00 PM

UNC_Samurai: There are effectively only four good places to get BBQ in the world:


I won't disagree with any of those in the top 5, but you forgot Wilber's!
 
2012-09-21 01:08:18 PM

pute kisses like a man: Blah blah blah, foodie gibberish


Northern Mexico, South Texas and West Texas are all locations where you tend to find more barbacoa, which is generally where they bury the meat being cooked. Goat (Cabrito) is one of the more popular things for this, but we've done it with pig heads, cow heads, etc too. We've also thrown ribs and brisket in there as well so all of the flavors could meld together (sort of a like a turducken).

Don't get all pious with your foodie non-sense. Distinctive styles and flavors are regional, and in Texas, we have multiple distinct styles for Barbeque/Barbecue/BBQ/Bar-B-Q/Barbacoa, etc.
 
2012-09-21 01:15:15 PM

PallMall: We've also thrown ribs and brisket in there as well so all of the flavors could meld together (sort of a like a turducken).


sounds awesome.

/ didn't mean to be pious, meant to be the opposite. i just like food
 
2012-09-21 01:15:28 PM
Having lived in TX and thoroughly sampled BBQ there before moving to St Louis, I can say this list fails without mention of City Market in Luling, TX.

Also, KC and StL BBQ are very different than Texas style BBQ, so probably should be on a separate list.

I've been to the NYC joint- Hill Country (my cousin was raving about it and took me there). It pales in comparison to basically every BBQ I went to in San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, and Austin. It's not even in the same ballpark- it's not even the same sport.
 
2012-09-21 01:16:36 PM

PallMall: 2KanZam: I have had great BBQ in:

-Georgia
-North Carolina
-South Carolina
-Tennessee
-West Virginia
-hell even California

But every frickin' time I go to Texas I try to find decent bbq. Every Frickin time it sucks...I don't get it. I literally can rarely finish it (which I love to eat and hate to waste food)

So yes Texas Barbeque sucks.

*checks profile*

Ahhhh, WV.

You get a pass on this one. It is my understanding that the taste buds on most West Virginas haven't evolved past Opossum, Rat, Racoon, etc due to the limitations of the gene pool.




I can smoke a whistlepig to taste better than the bbq I've had in Texas. (that's a groundhog so ya know)

Funny, my family actually has ALL lived in texas for some time except for me (Tyler, Auston, Houston, Galveston, Dallas, Plano and others). Every one of them after a few years decided that it sucked and they came back.

OH and had two good friends move down there after college. Both hated it and moved (heck one even likes CT better)

I used to be in the oil and gas industry and has spent lots of time there, offered a job making twice the pay...no thanks.

You can have Texas and your superior genes for all I care.


/props for being a Texan and believing in evolution though!
 
2012-09-21 01:17:07 PM
If you don't have Dreamland in Birmingham on the list it's not a proper list. Yum.

farm1.staticflickr.com
 
2012-09-21 01:17:32 PM

Langdon Alger: I'm from texas and I think this list is crap----texas for the beef, KC & memphis for the ribs, and south east coast/carolina style for the pulled pork. And as a bonus Pac Nw for the smoked fish. Each reagion has a specialty but it doesn't mean you can't find a place in each region that BBQ's everything pretty damn good. Hell, I know some pit masters who could put a rubber boot on a low, slow, smokey indirect fire and make you write home to momma about how damn good it was.


For KC, for regional specialties, I'm going to add burnt ends and "miscellaneous". Seriously, a few joints have been working on and making some damn good BBQ chicken (best served whole), and a few more have basically come to the opinion that there isn't anything that can't/shouldn't be barbecued, and are willing to have a go at anything.

Otherwise, I'm with you. It's funny, as much as people get up in arms over which region's BBQ is best, here locally people get just as passionate about their favorite joint. Myself, I have my favorites at each.
 
2012-09-21 01:17:53 PM
2KanZam: So yes Texas Barbeque sucks.

You aren't going to the right places or have awful taste. Any list needs to include Franklin and Snow's to be taken seriously. At both places, if you aren't there by 9am you will walk away empty handed. Black's was a bit of a surprise b/c in my opinion, it's the *third* best place in Lockhart, TX behind Smitty's and Kruez. My list for central Texas is:

1) Franklin (by a wide margin)
2) Kruez
3) The Salt Lick
4) Smitty's
5) Lambert's
6) Rudy's (a bit gimmicky but still decent)
7) Black's
8) County Line

I haven't been to Snow's or J. Mueller but I've heard great things about both.
 
2012-09-21 01:17:58 PM

Bill McKay: PallMall: Citrate1007: #1 People will never agree on BBQ
#2 If you need sauce at a BBQ joint then you suck at BBQ

BBQ Rule 4: The exception for using sauce (must be made on same site as BBQ) is when you've pulled the leftovers out of the fridge 3 or more days following - and need to bring it back to life.

What's this "leftovers" you speak of?


Ahhh, you haven't learned the secret method of satisfying the inevitable cravings that come in the days following a BBQ feast. I will impart this method to you know, in this public forum....

Method A - DIY BBQ
1. After estimating the required meat quantities to be purchased, use this simple mathematical equation.
Meat Quantity Estimate * 2 = Leftovers
2. Purchase said meat (using the equation) and BBQ ALL of it.
3. Engorge thyself on said BBQ
4. Have the creature known as "wife" hide the rest from you before you recover enough for additional partaking.
5. Within 3 days or so, after you've cleared the beer shelf in the fridge, you'll notice a mystery pack stashed behind it. TAKE IT OUT - IT IS LEFTOVERS!

Method B - BBQ from an establishment
1. Order the largest BBQ plate they have (generally the "Three Meat")
2. Have aforementioned "wife" order the same.
3. Upon ordering a refill of your unsweet iced tea, place another order for a three meat plate, specifying that it is "to go."
4. On the way home, consume the meat from the box your wife required (unless she's 250 on the hoof, then make sure to order TWO plates to go) and order her to hide the "to go" order from you.
5. Within 3 days or so, after you've cleared the beer shelf in the fridge, you'll notice a mystery pack stashed behind it. TAKE IT OUT - IT IS LEFTOVERS!
 
2012-09-21 01:20:10 PM
As a native Texan, I want y'all to know that although the three TX joints mentioned are good they missed a bunch that are better. Leon's an the in&out house in Galveston were excellent before the storm, getting back to being good.
 
2012-09-21 01:20:20 PM

Civil_War2_Time: JammerJim: Civil_War2_Time: USCLaw2010: No matter how much Texans want beef to be BBQ, it never will be.

No native Texans think beef is BBQ.

Both of you are terribly, terribly wrong, God have mercy on your misguided souls.

Semantics, fellow Texan. When was the last time you had BBQ beef?


A valid point. BBQ *is* beef. Saying BBQ beef is like saying beef beef. It's redundant.

/not that smoked pig or chicken is a bad thing, mind you
 
2012-09-21 01:20:40 PM
stickylipsbbq.com
 
2012-09-21 01:22:27 PM

2KanZam:
I can smoke a whistlepig to taste better than the bbq I've had in Texas. (that's a groundhog so ya know)


Undoubtably. Anything would be better than dried beef soaked in canned tomato sauce.

My granddad used to play an elaborate joke on visitors with a groundhog. We shoot them all the time and whenever we had a fresh one he'd make this big to-do over boiling it in an iron pot over coals. Took all day (which of course involved sitting around with a few sips of bourbon, telling lies, discussing politics, etc) and all kinds of added herbs and stuff.

At the very end of the day, he'd kick the pot over so it drained into the woods and say: "That's all you can do with a groundhog. Now let's go to Riverside Cafe and get something decent to eat."
 
2012-09-21 01:23:03 PM

killdawabbitt: I can say this list fails without mention of City Market in Luling, TX.


There's a dilemma... You see, in Houston, Texas, there is a place called "Luling City Market" which serves horrendous BBQ, and is a real shame. They used trickery to confuse citizens, BBQ enthusiasts and the like by picking a name which resembles one of Central Texas' great BBQ houses - and sold garbage.

In the confusion, even food critics are unsure as to how to judge BBQ from any place called "Luling" or "City Market" because it could have been a divine experience, or a miserable one.

Never forget that after a large meal of BBQ and cold beer that is the accepted standard, one tends to drift away into a euphoric state and may not understand where they are or were in the moments before.
 
2012-09-21 01:24:13 PM

Pine Oil Funeral: error 303: Based only on places I've ever actually been to, I'd say, in order:

Gates (Kansas City)
Oklahoma Joe's (Kansas City)
Pappy's (Saint Louis)
Arthur Bryant's (Kansas City)
Rooster's (Saint Paul)

Honorable mention :
Jack Stack (Kansas City)

And then a bunch of other stuff... Never been to Texas other than the Airport, but I'm not a fan of any of the Carolina barbecue stuff...

As you are from Missouri too, next time your rolling to St. Louis, stop in St. Peters and try Lil Mickey's Memphis BBQ. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

/Eating PP sammy from there right now


Noted. Everytime I'm in St. Louis for work, my coworkers want to eat at Bandana's. It makes me :( That place is terrible.
 
2012-09-21 01:28:35 PM
Squealers in Indianapolis is pretty damn good, too...

2012 Grand Champion Overall
 
2012-09-21 01:30:45 PM
Want good BBQ? Follow the Colored Peoples. They always know the best BBQ around and they usually make it.
 
2012-09-21 01:30:52 PM

pute kisses like a man: PallMall: barbacoa = barbecue.

they're cognates. that was all that my point was supposed to make. in the south, people have taken a dogmatic and very limiting approach to barbecue.

personally, I prefer to broaden my culinary horizons as opposed to limit them. these bbq arguments always tick me off, because it's too much about style and never about substance.

to me, bbq is cooking dead things with fire/smoke. every region has a special way of doing it. if someone were to say their favorites, I'd be happy, but instead it's a long debacle about how everyone else is wrong.

my only standard is taste. history is only helpful if it tastes better.


I with you on this one. Good bbq knows no geographical limitations, and the best bbq is what you want it to be.

Your taste in beer sucks, though. :P
 
2012-09-21 01:31:46 PM

iamskibibitz: 2KanZam: So yes Texas Barbeque sucks.

You aren't going to the right places or have awful taste. Any list needs to include Franklin and Snow's to be taken seriously. At both places, if you aren't there by 9am you will walk away empty handed. Black's was a bit of a surprise b/c in my opinion, it's the *third* best place in Lockhart, TX behind Smitty's and Kruez. My list for central Texas is:

1) Franklin (by a wide margin)
2) Kruez
3) The Salt Lick
4) Smitty's
5) Lambert's
6) Rudy's (a bit gimmicky but still decent)
7) Black's
8) County Line

I haven't been to Snow's or J. Mueller but I've heard great things about both.



Haven't been to any of those, but I research everytime I'm down there and have yet to find one. Your list sir, gives me hope that the journey is not over!
 
2012-09-21 01:32:36 PM

SapperInTexas: Cooper's BBQ in Llano.

/off to RTFA...
//List failed, but at least Kreuz Market got a mention 
///It's all about the meat


YESSSSSS!!!! Home of the "Big Chop." The original location in Llano kicks ass, but the ones in New Braunfels & Ft. Worth are great, too.

Additional list FAIL without mention of...
wayoutwestaustin.com

Some of the best BBQ EVAR!
 
2012-09-21 01:32:53 PM

charnov: Squealers in Indianapolis is pretty damn good, too...

2012 Grand Champion Overall


FAIL

Sam's Club isn't qualified to give out awards for meat, just fat.
 
2012-09-21 01:34:21 PM

brnt00: [images1.makefive.com image 250x288]

/And a tall Ape Hanger Ale on the side please.


This and That... Love the Dino
 
2012-09-21 01:34:23 PM

Another Government Employee: sid2112: mr_bunny: Fox Bros BBQ in Decatur, GA should be on that list as well.

I've been there many times, fantastic BBQ! I live in Canton. They completely failed to mention KC, failed to mention North Carolina, which has some of the most amazing BBQ ever eaten by anyone anywhere. For flying spagetti monster's sake those libtards over at CNN can't get anything right can they?

Any place that has a tree fall in it and the patrons just shift their chairs to keep eating has got to be good.


It's that good!
 
2012-09-21 01:35:40 PM
Memphis BBQ is pretty awesome.

BUT

I've got to give props to the Short Stop in Bloomington, IN. Yeah, sure, its hard to sell it to the nonbelievers when the fact that it is a gas station with a mini-mart, but DAYUM, it is awesome.

I live not too far away from it and it is painful to drive my kiddo to school and NOT stop for some on the way back.
 
2012-09-21 01:35:49 PM

RDixon: Ya'll, along with CNN are wrong.

The best BBQ in the universe is what I make from a secret recipe.

The secret is Jack Daniels.


Well sure, once you're drunk enough, you'll think anything tastes good.
 
2012-09-21 01:38:03 PM

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: No NC BBQ? Talk about a poorly reasoned list.


You disspoint me.

Slows
 
2012-09-21 01:38:44 PM

killdawabbitt: Also, KC and StL BBQ are very different than Texas style BBQ, so probably should be on a separate list.


Yes, Texas being actual BBQ and KC being vinegar based salad dressing.
 
2012-09-21 01:39:11 PM

JackieRabbit: Want good BBQ? Follow the Colored Peoples. They always know the best BBQ around and they usually make it.


www.vagabondish.com

/Blue is a color
 
2012-09-21 01:42:05 PM

The Southern Logic Company: Cythraul:
I highly distrust any "BBQ" restaurant north of the Mason Dixon, especially those run by chefs. They call "Grilling" "Barbequing" up there! The horror!

/NC style is my favorite
//GA is a close second
///Brunswick stew > *


Oddly enough, back in 1995 and '96 I lived out of a suitcase bouncing around the US. Best BBQ I had was in Rochester, MN (best. sauce. ever.). It didn't seem that strange after I found out that the place is basically the company town of the Mayo Clinic (something like 25% of the population are relatives of patients). Near as I can tell is that it sold out to become Famous Dave's (please, somebody tell me it's still there). The sauce they sell is good, but nothing like the non-industrial processed stuff they sold back then.
 
2012-09-21 01:42:50 PM

jmr61: If you don't have Dreamland in Birmingham Tuscaloosa on the list it's not a proper list. Yum.

[farm1.staticflickr.com image 640x426]


img.groundspeak.com

FTFY
 
2012-09-21 01:43:41 PM
www.cleverdonkey.com

Here's a brisket slow-cooked in my Texas backyard...
 
2012-09-21 01:46:31 PM

Cythraul: [www.delish.com image 400x400]

Look at the deliciousness that is a North Carolina pulled pork sammich.


Yes, but you should put the slaw on top.
 
2012-09-21 01:47:57 PM
They took 14th at the Jack Daniels World BBQ Invitational Championship 2011. That's pretty damn good.

Superbowl of barbeque

PallMall: charnov: Squealers in Indianapolis is pretty damn good, too...

2012 Grand Champion Overall

FAIL

Sam's Club isn't qualified to give out awards for meat, just fat.

 
2012-09-21 01:48:45 PM

error 303: Pine Oil Funeral: error 303: Based only on places I've ever actually been to, I'd say, in order:

Gates (Kansas City)
Oklahoma Joe's (Kansas City)
Pappy's (Saint Louis)
Arthur Bryant's (Kansas City)
Rooster's (Saint Paul)

Honorable mention :
Jack Stack (Kansas City)

And then a bunch of other stuff... Never been to Texas other than the Airport, but I'm not a fan of any of the Carolina barbecue stuff...

As you are from Missouri too, next time your rolling to St. Louis, stop in St. Peters and try Lil Mickey's Memphis BBQ. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

/Eating PP sammy from there right now

Noted. Everytime I'm in St. Louis for work, my coworkers want to eat at Bandana's. It makes me :( That place is terrible.


I agree with that. Mickeys is a couple blocks off the Cave Springs exit on I-70 in St. Peters. I swear by the place, even though it's in a old Taco Bell building. There up on Facebook for the address. Their old place had literally 6 chairs, and usually a line out the door. There's supposed to be a new place called Hendricks in St. Charles but I haven't tried them yet.
 
2012-09-21 01:48:59 PM
The correct eastern NC method:

www.berfrois.com


Note the pot of stew for the complete meal, plus crowd of happy relatives and friends in background.

There's a jug of bourbon in there somewhere . . .
 
2012-09-21 01:49:06 PM

Voiceofreason01: As a Kansas City native: this list is terrible


done in one
 
2012-09-21 01:50:19 PM

ManRay: Texas has brisket down, but BBQ is pork.

The best tailgate BBQ is Boners BBQ. It's right next to Turner Field, so you can stop in before a Braves game and get a few pounds of pulled pork.


Brisket is meant to be dog food. So yes Texas can feed thier pets.
 
2012-09-21 01:52:30 PM

CreepyBasementGuy: ManRay: Texas has brisket down, but BBQ is pork.

The best tailgate BBQ is Boners BBQ. It's right next to Turner Field, so you can stop in before a Braves game and get a few pounds of pulled pork.

Brisket is meant to be dog food. So yes Texas can feed thier pets.


Naw, they don't even do that right. If you want brisket, go to a deli, especially around Passover, and get something that hasn't been cooked to death.
 
2012-09-21 01:53:32 PM
Women know dick about BBQ
 
2012-09-21 01:57:58 PM

Browncoat: jmr61: If you don't have Dreamland in Birmingham Tuscaloosa on the list it's not a proper list. Yum.

[farm1.staticflickr.com image 640x426]

[img.groundspeak.com image 600x450]

FTFY


I've always wanted to go to the original. We have a Dreamland near me, but I'm told by those in the know it simply isn't even close to the original.

There's fantastic BBQ to be had in every state from Virginia to Texas. The best places are dives. It the restaurant sells their sauce in commercial packaging, they forgot how to make BBQ long ago. Find someplace else.
 
2012-09-21 01:59:13 PM
I'll just leave this here:

activerain.com
 
2012-09-21 01:59:20 PM
 
2012-09-21 01:59:32 PM

OldManDownDRoad: The correct eastern NC method:

[www.berfrois.com image 500x361]


Note the pot of stew for the complete meal, plus crowd of happy relatives and friends in background.

There's a jug of bourbon in there somewhere . . .


Are they singin' like birds?
 
2012-09-21 02:01:29 PM

JackieRabbit: Want good BBQ? Follow the Colored Peoples. They always know the best BBQ around and they usually make it.


Yuuuuup. hence my preference for Jaspers.

/oldest BBQ joint in Waco
 
2012-09-21 02:04:16 PM

Dogfacedgod: Women know dick about BBQ


something something smoked sausage
 
2012-09-21 02:06:29 PM
Jack's in Nashville
 
2012-09-21 02:08:59 PM

charnov: WTF is barbecue?


Interesting stuff, that. It is also interesting to note that the BBQ in Texas is of Southwestern/Mexico Indian origin, while that in the South East is of Cherokee origin.

StaleCoffee: Dogfacedgod: Women know dick about BBQ

something something smoked sausage


They know how to turn a Vienna sausage into a kiełbasa! Good stuff.
 
2012-09-21 02:10:33 PM

LurkinFarker: I won't disagree with any of those in the top 5, but you forgot Wilber's!


I have a bottle of Wilber's sauce in my fridge right now. Bootlegged on request by a co-worker who has family up there.
 
2012-09-21 02:13:41 PM
Thankfully no one has thrown up Sonny's or Slopes

we'll it has been thrown up but not as good nor in this thread.
 
2012-09-21 02:16:27 PM
"Hill Country BBQ" is code word for BBQ from central Texas and sure enough, they are a BBQ outreach aimed at the expatriate Texans and the heathens in New York. So that only leaves the heretic in California as non Texan and his shop has some bad ratings from the heathens there.
 
2012-09-21 02:17:18 PM
Look, for all you sinfully ignorant heathens saying things like:

JammerJim: A valid point. BBQ *is* beef. Saying BBQ beef is like saying beef beef. It's redundant.

/not that smoked pig or chicken is a bad thing, mind you


No. The Good Lord, when He gave barbeques to the good people of North Carolina, and explained to them how acids and sweetness complement each other in the Holy Pulled Pork sandwich, decreed that barbeque is a verb, not a noun. Eventually, the heathen people from across the mountains, being unable to improve on Eastern Carolina Barbeque, started calling everything cool on something that you USE to barbeque "bbq". This is to hide the fact they sully their meat with contaminating smokes, tomato residues, oily mixtures, and other unholy basting ingredients. 

Some of that meat above may have BEEN barbequed, but this IS what good God fearing christians should call A barbeque:

www.smokymtbarbecue.com
 
2012-09-21 02:18:30 PM

Nightsweat: [www.vagabondish.com image 800x533]

/Blue is a color


ytrewq.com
 
2012-09-21 02:21:33 PM

TheraTx: Thankfully no one has thrown up Sonny's or Slopes

we'll it has been thrown up but not as good nor in this thread.


I just threw up a little in the back of my throat. That crap ain't BBQ. Hell, sonny's stoops to using Liquid Smoke these days. Ate (tried to) there once about 10 years ago. It was vile. Never been back.

Fat Matt's down on Piedmont is the place to go. Their pulled pork isn't all that, but their ribs are righteous.
 
2012-09-21 02:22:58 PM
You'd think that craptastic article's writer or editor would have taken a step back, looked at it, realized that it had NOT ONE place in the South (home of Barbeque) and thought "Ya know, maybe I ought to expand my sample size".
 
2012-09-21 02:23:11 PM

EngineerBoy: [www.cleverdonkey.com image 348x261]

Here's a brisket slow-cooked in my Texas backyard...


Of all the gifts my wife has ever bought me, my favorite is an old New Braunfels Black Diamond smoker.

The heavy gauge metal is bulletproof and it holds temperature really well. I use it often.

This Fall I plan to sand it down and repaint it, haven't decided what color yet.
 
2012-09-21 02:23:48 PM
So this thread has inspired me to go to Ranch House at lunch and get some takeout.

/Olympia, supposed to be good.
//haven't tried it yet
 
2012-09-21 02:24:33 PM

OldManDownDRoad: I'll just leave this here:

[activerain.com image 640x480]


That's in Sanford. Where I'm originally from. Hah!
 
2012-09-21 02:24:59 PM
I'll continue to use Bobby Flay for my recommendations, thank you.
 
2012-09-21 02:25:17 PM
BBQ is about the meat (beef or pork) not about the sauce.
 
2012-09-21 02:25:27 PM
I grew up in the midwest and have lived the last 5 years in Texas, BBQ here sucks, it's way to dry. I would rather eat BBQ from one of the coasts where they soak it in BBQ sauce because they dont know how to cook it rather than eat Texas BBQ.
 
2012-09-21 02:28:21 PM

JackieRabbit:
It the restaurant sells their sauce in commercial packaging, they forgot how to make BBQ long ago. Find someplace else.


People who make sweeping judgments based on one criterion, well, insert hypocritical comment here. Clearly you haven't eaten at Rudy's, nor purchased their sauce, which is my favorite (as a 3500-4000 calorie/day eater, I have a lot of experience eating)
 
2012-09-21 02:29:26 PM

Gdalescrboz: I grew up in the midwest and have lived the last 5 years in Texas, BBQ here sucks, it's way to dry. I would rather eat BBQ from one of the coasts where they soak it in BBQ sauce because they dont know how to cook it rather than eat Texas BBQ.


0/10.
 
2012-09-21 02:30:49 PM
Who cares where the best bbq joints are located, barbecuing is supposed to be done in your back yard with a cooler full of beer.

Asking where to find the best bbq is like asking where to find the best crawfish. You find it when your lazy ass learns how to make it yourself.
 
2012-09-21 02:35:52 PM

BTing: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: No NC BBQ? Talk about a poorly reasoned list.

You disspoint me.

Slows


Meh - it's overpriced and a shadow of the quality from when it first opened. The only reason it's even talked about is the vacuum of other quality food in downtown Detroit. In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
 
2012-09-21 02:36:32 PM
I so want some Brunswick stew now. Good pulled pork is had here, but I fell in love with Memphis style dry-rubbed baby backs late in life, which is not so readily had.
 
2012-09-21 02:37:06 PM

Lucky LaRue: Right, subby. Let's take the word of a soulless ginger chef in Boston as the final authority on barbecue.


[www.berkshirefinearts.com image 315x275]

I mean, look at her! Just the fact that I said "her" and not "him" should be enough to disqualify her as an expert on real barbecue!


Looks like a stock photo from one of those outfits that supply illustrations for clothing catalogs.

Here's what a real BBQ master cooker looks like:

4.bp.blogspot.com

/Parker's
 
2012-09-21 02:37:40 PM
For those in Chicago, check out Smoque.
 
2012-09-21 02:38:44 PM

brnt00: [images1.makefive.com image 250x288]

/And a tall Ape Hanger Ale on the side please.


Good golly I miss Dinosaur Barbeque....
 
2012-09-21 02:40:04 PM

JackieRabbit: There's fantastic BBQ to be had in every state from Virginia to Texas. The best places are dives. It the restaurant sells their sauce in commercial packaging, they forgot how to make BBQ long ago. Find someplace else.


i307.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-21 02:40:07 PM

CharlieBrown: [roadsandkingdoms.com image 605x453]

Ya'll shut the hell UP!


Luling City Market?
 
2012-09-21 02:40:28 PM

Cythraul: [www.delish.com image 400x400]

Look at the deliciousness that is a North Carolina pulled pork sammich.


You should be beaten with a cast iron frying pan for using the word "sammich."
 
2012-09-21 02:41:41 PM
If your "barbeque" consists of lots of sauce, then you have no idea what you're doing with meat. You just like sauce. In my travels I'd definitely say that the place that you're most likely to get barbeque that tastes great without having to slather it with sauce is certainly Texas.
 
2012-09-21 02:43:53 PM

DesertZephyr: CharlieBrown: [roadsandkingdoms.com image 605x453]

Ya'll shut the hell UP!

Luling City Market?


Luling City Market in Houston is not good BBQ.

City Market in Luling, TX is.

Please write this down for future reference.
 
2012-09-21 02:44:09 PM
And if that WASN'T a pic from Luling City Market, then add it to the list of "the only place in Texas to eat BBQ"

/BBQ is served on brown paper
//with white bread
///in a cardboard beer box
 
2012-09-21 02:45:48 PM
Carolina pork BBQ or Texas beef? Texas of course. Even the Lord Jesus himself would agree. No self respecting Jew would eat pork.
 
2012-09-21 02:47:22 PM

BTing: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: No NC BBQ? Talk about a poorly reasoned list.

You disspoint me.

Slows


THIS a thousand times over. Better than any BBQ I ever had down in Texas!
 
2012-09-21 02:50:02 PM

PallMall: DesertZephyr: CharlieBrown: [roadsandkingdoms.com image 605x453]

Ya'll shut the hell UP!

Luling City Market?

Luling City Market in Houston is not good BBQ.

City Market in Luling, TX is.

Please write this down for future reference.


*scribbles furiously*

I concede your point. If you ever get close to Luling CIty Market in Houston, keep goin a lil bit further over to Ragin Cajun and get sumthin good to eat.
 
2012-09-21 02:50:41 PM

JackieRabbit: TheraTx: Thankfully no one has thrown up Sonny's or Slopes

we'll it has been thrown up but not as good nor in this thread.

I just threw up a little in the back of my throat. That crap ain't BBQ. Hell, sonny's stoops to using Liquid Smoke these days. Ate (tried to) there once about 10 years ago. It was vile. Never been back.



My sister married a yankee. His parents live down here now, and in an effort bond, the MiL asked my sister to lunch. "I want to take you to a great BBQ place I found", knowing my sis would appreciate it. "Cool" sis thought, maybe she found a gem.

It was all she could do not to scream "nooooooo!" when MiL made the turn into the Sonny's parking lot.
 
2012-09-21 02:51:43 PM

waterrockets: JackieRabbit:
It the restaurant sells their sauce in commercial packaging, they forgot how to make BBQ long ago. Find someplace else.

People who make sweeping judgments based on one criterion, well, insert hypocritical comment here. Clearly you haven't eaten at Rudy's, nor purchased their sauce, which is my favorite (as a 3500-4000 calorie/day eater, I have a lot of experience eating)


Think what you will, my friend. I've watch at least a dozen very good restaurants go commercial and start selling their sauce, which they have mass-produced somewhere. At first it's just sold at the counter; then it starts showing up in local supermarkets. Finally it can be had almost everywhere. In the meantime, the restaurant's BBQ goes to hell in a handbag. Some of their customers think the BBQ is still fantastic, while everyone else thinks "what happened to this place!?!?" Real BBQ joints don't market their sauce. It's usually a well guarded secret.

And no, I have not eaten at Rudy's since I don't live in Texas. But I just looked it up. It's a chain. I don't eat at chain BBQ joints. Nor do I care about the preferences of a 3000-4000 kcal/day eater, since quantify is obviously more important than quality.
 
2012-09-21 02:53:34 PM

JackieRabbit: And no, I have not eaten at Rudy's since I don't live in Texas. But I just looked it up. It's a chain.


It's a chain NOW. They've just been REALLY successful at what they do, and expanded. And damn if they aren't really good at BBQ.
 
2012-09-21 02:55:08 PM
I don't really have a dog in this hunt, since I'm from Illinois. But any list that completely ignores KC, Memphis and Carolina but includes New York City is just straight-up trolling.

/Shout out to Hecky's BBQ in Evanston
//"It's the Sauce"
 
2012-09-21 02:57:12 PM
She didn't say anything about Chili's baby back ribs...
 
2012-09-21 02:57:51 PM

JackieRabbit: And no, I have not eaten at Rudy's since I don't live in Texas. But I just looked it up. It's a chain. I don't eat at chain BBQ joints. Nor do I care about the preferences of a 3000-4000 kcal/day eater, since quantify is obviously more important than quality.


Rudy's is decent, but it can be hit-or-miss. It didn't start as a chain, but has sort of grown in to one. I agree that once you chain out, quality will suffer. BBQ is an art form which requires patience and dedication.. once you start slacking, it all goes down hill.
 
2012-09-21 03:02:35 PM

PallMall: JackieRabbit: And no, I have not eaten at Rudy's since I don't live in Texas. But I just looked it up. It's a chain. I don't eat at chain BBQ joints. Nor do I care about the preferences of a 3000-4000 kcal/day eater, since quantify is obviously more important than quality.

Rudy's is decent, but it can be hit-or-miss. It didn't start as a chain, but has sort of grown in to one. I agree that once you chain out, quality will suffer. BBQ is an art form which requires patience and dedication.. once you start slacking, it all goes down hill.


It's the patience thing that kills chains. Slow-cooking meat is an art that doesn't really conform to a clock at times. Do you think the pig needs another hour on the coals? Well, if you are cooking in your yard, just open another beer and relax. If you have to make a delivery to several restaurants by lunch time, too bad - take that meat all the grill and ship it out.

I occasionally help out a guy who still cooks with wood (whenever I clear land and cut down a hickory, I give it to him). If the fire decides to be slow to catch, and slow to "go to coal" one morning, you just have to sit and wait. He keeps a couple pounds in the fridge for people who eat lunch early, but it's sometimes a struggle to have fresh 'cue ready by lunchtime.
 
2012-09-21 03:04:42 PM
saved the best for last:

visitsouth.com
 
2012-09-21 03:10:31 PM

DesertZephyr: PallMall: DesertZephyr: CharlieBrown: [roadsandkingdoms.com image 605x453]

Ya'll shut the hell UP!

Luling City Market?

Luling City Market in Houston is not good BBQ.

City Market in Luling, TX is.

Please write this down for future reference.

*scribbles furiously*

I concede your point. If you ever get close to Luling CIty Market in Houston, keep goin a lil bit further over to Ragin Cajun and get sumthin good to eat.



If you HAVE to eat chain BBQ in Houston, try Goode company on Kirby and Bissonett
 
2012-09-21 03:14:19 PM

xxysyndrome: saved the best for last:

[visitsouth.com image 500x500]


Their slaw sucks.

See upthread - that's the guy I give hickory to. Nice fellow, though. He's the "son" and was a professional hunter when he was younger.
 
2012-09-21 03:14:58 PM
Good BBQ is BBQ that needs no sausce.
 
2012-09-21 03:17:28 PM

killdawabbitt: If you HAVE to eat chain BBQ in Houston, try Goode company on Kirby and Bissonett


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Goode Co. is MEDIOCRE at best. You could save money and time and just go to any of the Pappas BBQ locations (many with Drive-Thrus) and get similar quality.

Goode Co. is just another themed chain like Landry's, Pappas, or any of the other similar offerings in and around Houston. That obnoxious, mirrored, armadillo with Longhorns across the street is a testament to that.
 
2012-09-21 03:20:30 PM

charnov: They took 14th at the Jack Daniels World BBQ Invitational Championship 2011. That's pretty damn good.

Superbowl of barbeque

PallMall: charnov: Squealers in Indianapolis is pretty damn good, too...

2012 Grand Champion Overall

FAIL

Sam's Club isn't qualified to give out awards for meat, just fat.


I agree on the Sam's Club bit, and I don't care much for the Jack Daniel's one (not when they license their name to that sickly sweet crap they serve at Appleby's or Chili's or whichever chain they are passing that off as BBQ), but I saw the American Royal Invitational on that list. That, folks, is the World Series/Superbowl/World Cup of barbecue right there. So, I'd probably give it a shot (though I have seen some turn in award winning BBQ there, only to turn around and sell easier to cook substandard crap at their restaurant, so it's still not a guarantee.)

Bag of Hammers:
Yes, Texas being actual BBQ and KC being vinegar based salad dressing.


You are either an incredibly bad troll, or someone handed you a bottle of KC Masterpiece and that's the end all of your KC BBQ experience. Here's a hint - KC Masterpiece is below standard crap, begun by a PR Savvy rich guy from Johnson County who doesn't know a thing about good BBQ, who managed to sell his "sauce" recipe for a small fortune to the same people who make Clorox Bleach.

KC Style is as much about the smoking as the sauce - a lot of pitmasters guard the types and mix of wood they use as or more fiercely as they guard their sauce and rub recipes. That said, the sauce is mostly tomato and molasses base, with one notable exception. A lot use vinegar to some degree, but never so much that it's the stand out flavor.

You want to talk about vinegary sauce, you go to the Carolinas for that.

Pro-Tip - you can always order KC Barbecue "dry", and it will still be one of the tastiest meals you've had.
 
2012-09-21 03:25:10 PM

PallMall: 2KanZam: I have had great BBQ in:

-Georgia
-North Carolina
-South Carolina
-Tennessee
-West Virginia
-hell even California

But every frickin' time I go to Texas I try to find decent bbq. Every Frickin time it sucks...I don't get it. I literally can rarely finish it (which I love to eat and hate to waste food)

So yes Texas Barbeque sucks.

*checks profile*

Ahhhh, WV.

You get a pass on this one. It is my understanding that the taste buds on most West Virginas haven't evolved past Opossum, Rat, Racoon, etc due to the limitations of the gene pool.



And that lack of understanding makes you an idiot and an asshole.
 
2012-09-21 03:25:22 PM
ytrewq.com

/Citation for aforementioned obnoxious armadillo
 
2012-09-21 03:26:45 PM
www.roadfood.com

The Brick Pit in Mobile, AL.

Far and away the best bbq I've ever had.
 
2012-09-21 03:27:11 PM

jmr61: And that lack of understanding makes you an idiot and an asshole.


inserteyeroll.com
 
2012-09-21 03:27:24 PM

Mr_Fabulous: I don't really have a dog in this hunt, since I'm from Illinois. But any list that completely ignores KC, Memphis and Carolina but includes New York City is just straight-up trolling.

/Shout out to Hecky's BBQ in Evanston
//"It's the Sauce"


there are some pretty good places here in NY. NYC has a few. The city has weird rules about the smokers (I think) I recall reading about special venting / scrubbers etc.

But in the last 10 - 15 years there have been some decent places spring up. I can't speak to the other areas of the country as I haven't had a chance to visit.

I prefer to do my own grilling. I don't have a smoker yet (for real BBQ).

I'm just north of the city and there has been a large increase in the number of small BBQ joints and brewers in the area.
 
2012-09-21 03:36:58 PM

PallMall: [ytrewq.com image 640x444]

/Citation for aforementioned obnoxious armadillo


To be fair though, it is ACROSS the street, although Goode owns that bar as well. And the tacqueria on the other corner. And the Seafood place around that corner. Actually, I think that dude owns the whole block. But I think the BBQ (and tacos) are good. I found it much better than the Pappas joints. I won't speak for any of the other locations. I used to live right next to the taqueria. SOOO GOOD. The tacos with the 1/4 avocado in them.... yummy.....
 
2012-09-21 03:39:53 PM
Nice to see some connoisseurs on this thread

Cooper's in Llano.

www.seriouseats.com
 
2012-09-21 03:40:35 PM
It's funny to hear all the Southerners in here talking about the 'best' barbecue coming from down there. But really, when have Southerners been the best at anything?

I mean, look at cornbread. All the stuff in the south may have been pretty good back when you were cooking with cast iron on a wood stove (some people down there probably still are...) but harder-working, more careful artisans in places like SF and NYC are really taking things to the next level. It's the same with barbecue. What your grampa taught you isn't going to cut it anymore, not with the food knowledge and passion behind the better cooks in CA and NY, not to mention general technological know-how and more advanced techniques. Plus,the crowd is actually *interesting*, and the music is better.

NYC for BBQ all the way.
 
2012-09-21 03:44:09 PM

thaduke: It's funny to hear all the Southerners in here talking about the 'best' barbecue coming from down there. But really, when have Southerners been the best at anything?

I mean, look at cornbread. All the stuff in the south may have been pretty good back when you were cooking with cast iron on a wood stove (some people down there probably still are...) but harder-working, more careful artisans in places like SF and NYC are really taking things to the next level. It's the same with barbecue. What your grampa taught you isn't going to cut it anymore, not with the food knowledge and passion behind the better cooks in CA and NY, not to mention general technological know-how and more advanced techniques. Plus,the crowd is actually *interesting*, and the music is better.

NYC for BBQ all the way.


That could be the douchiest, most "coastal elitest" thing I've ever read. In fact, it's so trolly: 9/10.
 
2012-09-21 03:45:45 PM

killdawabbitt: To be fair though, it is ACROSS the street, although Goode owns that bar as well. And the tacqueria on the other corner. And the Seafood place around that corner. Actually, I think that dude owns the whole block. But I think the BBQ (and tacos) are good. I found it much better than the Pappas joints. I won't speak for any of the other locations. I used to live right next to the taqueria. SOOO GOOD. The tacos with the 1/4 avocado in them.... yummy.....


It's still a Goode Co. establishment, and it's positioned there to stare at you while you're at the BBQ joint. Plenty of better places for BBQ.
 
2012-09-21 03:47:01 PM

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: thaduke: It's funny to hear all the Southerners in here talking about the 'best' barbecue coming from down there. But really, when have Southerners been the best at anything?

I mean, look at cornbread. All the stuff in the south may have been pretty good back when you were cooking with cast iron on a wood stove (some people down there probably still are...) but harder-working, more careful artisans in places like SF and NYC are really taking things to the next level. It's the same with barbecue. What your grampa taught you isn't going to cut it anymore, not with the food knowledge and passion behind the better cooks in CA and NY, not to mention general technological know-how and more advanced techniques. Plus,the crowd is actually *interesting*, and the music is better.

NYC for BBQ all the way.

That could be the douchiest, most "coastal elitest" thing I've ever read. In fact, it's so trolly: 9/10.


I concur.
 
2012-09-21 03:54:15 PM

jmr61: If you don't have Dreamland in Birmingham on the list it's not a proper list. Yum.

[farm1.staticflickr.com image 640x426]


Having lived in Alabama for several years, I always felt that Dreamland was terribly overrated.
 
2012-09-21 03:56:22 PM
www.mcdonalds.com

/oblig.
 
2012-09-21 04:01:22 PM

InternetSecurityGuard: I have no idea who the owners of Meshack's over in Garland have fellated to garner so much love. I went by there and tried it. According to my binary rating system, it doesn't suck. My favorite around here is Mac's Barbecue on Main Street in Dallas.


Word.

My Top10 TX Q:
Black's/Lockhart
Cooper's/Llano
Franklin/Austin
Joe Allen's/Abilene
Mac's/Dallas
Kreuz's/Lockhart
Mac's/Brady
the original Sonny Bryan's/Dallas
Harold's/Abilene
Schoepf's/Belton

I live in Abilene, & my Mom went to high school in Lockhart with the founder of Black's, so I'm biased. When I ride my bicycle on the neighborhood side streets around Abilene on the weekends, you are always smelling some form form of animal smoking.
 
2012-09-21 04:03:07 PM
Just got back from picking up takeout. They had a special on beef ribs. 


Link
 
2012-09-21 04:06:43 PM
Man, it's all good.
 
2012-09-21 04:09:25 PM

OldManDownDRoad



The correct eastern NC method:

Note the pot of stew for the complete meal, plus crowd of happy relatives and friends in background.


Yeah, crowd of happy relatives and friends, yeah that's right, relatives and friends or how they were called back in the 1800's, other slaves.
 
2012-09-21 04:19:42 PM

JackieRabbit: waterrockets: JackieRabbit:
It the restaurant sells their sauce in commercial packaging, they forgot how to make BBQ long ago. Find someplace else.

People who make sweeping judgments based on one criterion, well, insert hypocritical comment here. Clearly you haven't eaten at Rudy's, nor purchased their sauce, which is my favorite (as a 3500-4000 calorie/day eater, I have a lot of experience eating)

Think what you will, my friend. I've watch at least a dozen very good restaurants go commercial and start selling their sauce, which they have mass-produced somewhere. At first it's just sold at the counter; then it starts showing up in local supermarkets. Finally it can be had almost everywhere. In the meantime, the restaurant's BBQ goes to hell in a handbag. Some of their customers think the BBQ is still fantastic, while everyone else thinks "what happened to this place!?!?" Real BBQ joints don't market their sauce. It's usually a well guarded secret.

And no, I have not eaten at Rudy's since I don't live in Texas. But I just looked it up. It's a chain. I don't eat at chain BBQ joints. Nor do I care about the preferences of a 3000-4000 kcal/day eater, since quantify is obviously more important than quality.


Dinosaur Barbeque sells their Wango Tango sauce in supermarkets, and by mail order....

I still love the barbeque they cook. Their wango tango wings are to die for.
 
2012-09-21 04:25:49 PM
1) Tx bbq
2) korean bbq
3) no bbq
4)carolina bbq

/john oliver
 
2012-09-21 04:33:14 PM

JackieRabbit: Browncoat: jmr61: If you don't have Dreamland in Birmingham Tuscaloosa on the list it's not a proper list. Yum.

[farm1.staticflickr.com image 640x426]

[img.groundspeak.com image 600x450]

FTFY

I've always wanted to go to the original. We have a Dreamland near me, but I'm told by those in the know it simply isn't even close to the original.

There's fantastic BBQ to be had in every state from Virginia to Texas. The best places are dives. It the restaurant sells their sauce in commercial packaging, they forgot how to make BBQ long ago. Find someplace else.


Go to the original. The 'chain' ones aren't anywhere as good.
 
2012-09-21 04:36:41 PM

thaduke: It's funny to hear all the Southerners in here talking about the 'best' barbecue coming from down there. But really, when have Southerners been the best at anything?

I mean, look at cornbread. All the stuff in the south may have been pretty good back when you were cooking with cast iron on a wood stove (some people down there probably still are...) but harder-working, more careful artisans in places like SF and NYC are really taking things to the next level. It's the same with barbecue. What your grampa taught you isn't going to cut it anymore, not with the food knowledge and passion behind the better cooks in CA and NY, not to mention general technological know-how and more advanced techniques. Plus,the crowd is actually *interesting*, and the music is better.

NYC for BBQ all the way.


You are a terrific asshole.
 
2012-09-21 04:41:06 PM
From Missouri and have had years of wonderful KC style BBQ. It's a unique style. If you want the best KC Style BBQ, go to Kansas City. Apply same concept to any other BBQ style--if you like that style, go to the motherland of that style. Ask about six locals where the best BBQ is in that town or area and go from there.

Last winter, we made a BBQ pilgramage to Memphis. Spent a week. Ate BBQ everywhere. MMmmmmm. Spent nights on Beale Street. Very good times. Central BBQ for the win but we didn't have any bad BBQ in Memphis. We thought Memphis was a fun town.

Next pilgramage is to Texas. Will get to the Carolinas before long. Loves me some Barbecue.
 
2012-09-21 04:41:30 PM

thaduke: It's funny to hear all the Southerners in here talking about the 'best' barbecue coming from down there. But really, when have Southerners been the best at anything?

I mean, look at cornbread. All the stuff in the south may have been pretty good back when you were cooking with cast iron on a wood stove (some people down there probably still are...) but harder-working, more careful artisans in places like SF and NYC are really taking things to the next level. It's the same with barbecue. What your grampa taught you isn't going to cut it anymore, not with the food knowledge and passion behind the better cooks in CA and NY, not to mention general technological know-how and more advanced techniques. Plus,the crowd is actually *interesting*, and the music is better.

NYC for BBQ all the way.


Bless your heart
 
2012-09-21 04:43:26 PM

TheDumbBlonde: thaduke: It's funny to hear all the Southerners in here talking about the 'best' barbecue coming from down there. But really, when have Southerners been the best at anything?

I mean, look at cornbread. All the stuff in the south may have been pretty good back when you were cooking with cast iron on a wood stove (some people down there probably still are...) but harder-working, more careful artisans in places like SF and NYC are really taking things to the next level. It's the same with barbecue. What your grampa taught you isn't going to cut it anymore, not with the food knowledge and passion behind the better cooks in CA and NY, not to mention general technological know-how and more advanced techniques. Plus,the crowd is actually *interesting*, and the music is better.

NYC for BBQ all the way.

You are a terrific asshole.


By that line of reasoning, microwave cooking is the most scrumptious stuff on the face of the planet.
 
2012-09-21 04:49:34 PM

pissnmoan: Next pilgramage is to Texas. Will get to the Carolinas before long. Loves me some Barbecue.


Mmm... pilgrims.
 
2012-09-21 05:03:45 PM
Peco's in Seattle. Start with mild or medium unless you know what the fark you're doing.
 
2012-09-21 05:43:40 PM

thedarkjedi: Peco's in Seattle. Start with mild or medium unless you know what the fark you're doing.


rain city neighbor here. there is no good barbecue in seattle.

texas rules. all anti-sauce comments above are spot on.

partial to jmueller myself.
 
2012-09-21 05:51:38 PM
Leonard's in Memphis used to be good back in the late 80's.
Pig -n- Whistle in Bartlett TN was good in the 90's.
The Public Eye also in Memphis had good ribs. (RIP :( )

I haven't found a decent BBQ place in years.
 
2012-09-21 06:09:34 PM

TheDumbBlonde: I once had a very nice woman explain to me that where she ws from in Michigan, they would simmer raw baby back ribs in Kraft Honey BBQ sauce. I could only stare incredulously.


I'm from Oregon, where good BBQ is practically unknown, and even I think this sounds awful.

/ facepalm
 
2012-09-21 06:17:36 PM
List fails without The Joint - New Orleans, LA
 
2012-09-21 06:35:14 PM
Beef ain't BBQ.

Get your ass to Memphis.
 
2012-09-21 06:41:33 PM

jmadisonbiii: MEMPHIS.

Central
Corky's
Cozy Corner
Interstate
Rendezvous
Tops

Damn.


You nailed it. But I would put Tops over Rendezvous.

Gawd, I love living in Memphis! It's a wonder I don't weigh 400 pounds.
 
2012-09-21 06:45:03 PM
i.imgur.com

In business since 1947 serving some of the best BBQ you'll get anywhere. There's no dining room. And this is after they fixed the joint up a little a few years ago.
 
2012-09-21 06:54:28 PM

SandMann: Nice to see some connoisseurs on this thread

Cooper's in Llano.

[www.seriouseats.com image 500x333]


Oh ye gods, those beef ribs...I have actual dreams about how good they are.
 
2012-09-21 07:17:42 PM

Solid Muldoon: jmadisonbiii: MEMPHIS.

Central
Corky's
Cozy Corner
Interstate
Rendezvous
Tops

Damn.

You nailed it. But I would put Tops over Rendezvous.

Gawd, I love living in Memphis! It's a wonder I don't weigh 400 pounds.


Running from the crack addicts on Madison will keep the weight down.
 
2012-09-21 07:40:09 PM
it's a good thing I'm going home to Texas today, I shall celebrate by having some good bbq, not any of this crap you people in the D.C. and baltimore area eat
 
2012-09-21 08:40:50 PM
 
2012-09-21 08:52:04 PM
Of course they list a place in Inglewood and on Crenshaw Boulevard no less. Do they heat the sauce with the barrel of their guns?
 
2012-09-21 09:05:59 PM
2 bbq threads in 3 days. Really? REALLY?
 
2012-09-21 09:16:21 PM
Jesus. Beer, bourbon, and scotch snobs got nothin' on you people.
 
2012-09-21 09:18:46 PM

thaduke: It's funny to hear all the Southerners in here talking about the 'best' barbecue coming from down there. But really, when have Southerners been the best at anything?

I mean, look at cornbread. All the stuff in the south may have been pretty good back when you were cooking with cast iron on a wood stove (some people down there probably still are...) but harder-working, more careful artisans in places like SF and NYC are really taking things to the next level. It's the same with barbecue. What your grampa taught you isn't going to cut it anymore, not with the food knowledge and passion behind the better cooks in CA and NY, not to mention general technological know-how and more advanced techniques. Plus,the crowd is actually *interesting*, and the music is better.

NYC for BBQ all the way.


Bless your heart.
 
2012-09-21 09:20:55 PM

GoGoGadgetLiver: Carolina pork BBQ or Texas beef? Texas of course. Even the Lord Jesus himself would agree. No self respecting Jew would eat pork.


Any Jew who ate NC BBQ would realize what he's been missing. That Texas stuff is fine, but it isn't barbeque.
 
2012-09-21 09:23:15 PM

UNC_Samurai: There are effectively only four good places to get BBQ in the world:


Distinction needs to be made: The Greenville location of Parker's qualifies as barbeque if you're feeding relative from Michigan who don't know any better. Otherwise, it's just pig that got abused on the way to the table.
 
2012-09-21 09:24:22 PM

JackieRabbit:
There's fantastic BBQ to be had in every state from Virginia to Texas. The best places are dives. It the restaurant sells their sauce in commercial packaging, they forgot how to make BBQ long ago. Find someplace else.


There's a place about 20 minutes from my house named 17th Street.

jalcnews.com

That is, the original is 20 minutes from me, in Murphysboro, IL. The place is awesome. Like a couple of places mentioned here, there's evidence that Bill Clinton's been there. Man likes to eat. There are people who travel from other states for the beans, seriously. It's basically an old bar that's been turned into a restaurant. Not hardly enough room for everyone. It's always packed, and always amazing. I've never had anything from there that didn't leave me wishing I had room to keep on eating.

There's another one with the same name near I-57, in Marion. Real nice looking. Food's okay, but not great. Not long after they opened, I took a lunch break and got some smoked wings. They weren't fully cooked.

They apparently have one in O'Fallon, too, and iirc Mike has a restaurant in Manhattan. I don't know about the Manhattan one, but the O'Fallon one has mixed reviews. If you can't bother going to the old bar in Murphysboro, you'll probably get good food, but if you can go to the Murphysboro one, you'll get great food.

Having said all that, I tend to cook my own. Believe it or not, with some care, you can get good results with one of these:

wjltevansville.com

I did a pork shoulder on mine, and my wife declared it "almost as good as 17th Street". I'll take that as a good sign. :-D
 
2012-09-21 11:36:14 PM
There's only 5 words to say:
HI, MAY I HELP YOU?
 
2012-09-22 12:12:02 AM
For as much crap in Texas gets called barbeque, there is at least one redeeming restaurant:
Smitty's Pit BBQ in El Paso.
 
2012-09-22 12:14:18 AM
bbqjew.files.wordpress.com

Yeah, right. We'll stay hidden serving excellent BBQ. Thanks.

www.yesyoucangrill.com

Another Durham great.

Hat tips to all the great places in Wilson, NC. Wilson is the epicenter, and that must be acknowledged.

 
2012-09-22 12:18:18 AM
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The Master, Ed Mitchell.

 
2012-09-22 02:20:00 AM
Alexander Cockburn once noted that in Texas BBQ consisted of "saddle leather slathered with ketchup".
 
2012-09-22 02:58:13 AM

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: List is decent, 'cept it forgets Jasper's in East Waco. Damn. Just...damn.


Haven't had Jasper's in quite a while. It's awesome, but is certainly a different type of BBQ. Would die to have some now.

I moved to the Carolinas, and no, they can't make BBQ here. What they make here is disgusting. Doesn't matter, North Carolina, South Carolina, east coast, or in the mountains. It's all you can do to choke it down. I love living here, the people are nice and the weather is awesome. But, they don't know BBQ. Don't even get me started about the other stuff they eat here "Livermush." We even have livermush sandwiches in the machine in our break room.
 
2012-09-22 04:08:10 AM

JolobinSmokin: List fails without anything from Oklahoma.

Billy Sims is a chain BBQ and better than almost any other i've been too in other parts of the country.

Wild Horse Mountain, is located on Wild horse mountain, just south of Sallisaw, Ok

Probably best in the state.


Nice. I'm not too far from Sallisaw. Try Fish's in Tahlequah. Awesome little hole in the wall. It was converted from a Jiffy Lube into a BBQ restaurant.
 
2012-09-22 12:15:57 PM

wlowe84: Edward Rooney Dean of Students: List is decent, 'cept it forgets Jasper's in East Waco. Damn. Just...damn.

Haven't had Jasper's in quite a while. It's awesome, but is certainly a different type of BBQ. Would die to have some now.

I moved to the Carolinas, and no, they can't make BBQ here. What they make here is disgusting. Doesn't matter, North Carolina, South Carolina, east coast, or in the mountains. It's all you can do to choke it down. I love living here, the people are nice and the weather is awesome. But, they don't know BBQ. Don't even get me started about the other stuff they eat here "Livermush." We even have livermush sandwiches in the machine in our break room.


Wikipedia:

"Livermush (sometimes called liver pudding) is a Southern United States food product composed of pig liver, head parts, and cornmeal. It is commonly spiced with pepper and sage."

YUCK.
 
2012-09-22 12:19:48 PM

theurge14: "Livermush (sometimes called liver pudding) is a Southern United States food product composed of pig liver, head parts, and cornmeal. It is commonly spiced with pepper and sage."

YUCK.


Wait until you find out what scrapple is.
 
2012-09-22 12:25:42 PM

PallMall: theurge14: "Livermush (sometimes called liver pudding) is a Southern United States food product composed of pig liver, head parts, and cornmeal. It is commonly spiced with pepper and sage."

YUCK.

Wait until you find out what scrapple is.


Or souse.
 
2012-09-22 09:07:05 PM

Cythraul: [www.delish.com image 400x400]

Look at the deliciousness that is a North Carolina pulled pork sammich.


I see your fancy-pants sammich and raise you a burnt-ends sandwich and fries served in a brown piece of paper from Arthur Bryant's. Easy win... 

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