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(CNN)   CNN lists top BBQ joints in the country. The majority in Texas? Check. None in any other southern states? Check. List on the left, whinin' on the right, y'all   (eatocracy.cnn.com) divider line 341
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2012-09-21 02:23:11 PM  

EngineerBoy: [www.cleverdonkey.com image 348x261]

Here's a brisket slow-cooked in my Texas backyard...


Of all the gifts my wife has ever bought me, my favorite is an old New Braunfels Black Diamond smoker.

The heavy gauge metal is bulletproof and it holds temperature really well. I use it often.

This Fall I plan to sand it down and repaint it, haven't decided what color yet.
 
2012-09-21 02:23:48 PM  
So this thread has inspired me to go to Ranch House at lunch and get some takeout.

/Olympia, supposed to be good.
//haven't tried it yet
 
2012-09-21 02:24:33 PM  

OldManDownDRoad: I'll just leave this here:

[activerain.com image 640x480]


That's in Sanford. Where I'm originally from. Hah!
 
2012-09-21 02:24:59 PM  
I'll continue to use Bobby Flay for my recommendations, thank you.
 
2012-09-21 02:25:17 PM  
BBQ is about the meat (beef or pork) not about the sauce.
 
2012-09-21 02:25:27 PM  
I grew up in the midwest and have lived the last 5 years in Texas, BBQ here sucks, it's way to dry. I would rather eat BBQ from one of the coasts where they soak it in BBQ sauce because they dont know how to cook it rather than eat Texas BBQ.
 
2012-09-21 02:28:21 PM  

JackieRabbit:
It the restaurant sells their sauce in commercial packaging, they forgot how to make BBQ long ago. Find someplace else.


People who make sweeping judgments based on one criterion, well, insert hypocritical comment here. Clearly you haven't eaten at Rudy's, nor purchased their sauce, which is my favorite (as a 3500-4000 calorie/day eater, I have a lot of experience eating)
 
2012-09-21 02:29:26 PM  

Gdalescrboz: I grew up in the midwest and have lived the last 5 years in Texas, BBQ here sucks, it's way to dry. I would rather eat BBQ from one of the coasts where they soak it in BBQ sauce because they dont know how to cook it rather than eat Texas BBQ.


0/10.
 
2012-09-21 02:30:49 PM  
Who cares where the best bbq joints are located, barbecuing is supposed to be done in your back yard with a cooler full of beer.

Asking where to find the best bbq is like asking where to find the best crawfish. You find it when your lazy ass learns how to make it yourself.
 
2012-09-21 02:35:52 PM  

BTing: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: No NC BBQ? Talk about a poorly reasoned list.

You disspoint me.

Slows


Meh - it's overpriced and a shadow of the quality from when it first opened. The only reason it's even talked about is the vacuum of other quality food in downtown Detroit. In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
 
2012-09-21 02:36:32 PM  
I so want some Brunswick stew now. Good pulled pork is had here, but I fell in love with Memphis style dry-rubbed baby backs late in life, which is not so readily had.
 
2012-09-21 02:37:06 PM  

Lucky LaRue: Right, subby. Let's take the word of a soulless ginger chef in Boston as the final authority on barbecue.


[www.berkshirefinearts.com image 315x275]

I mean, look at her! Just the fact that I said "her" and not "him" should be enough to disqualify her as an expert on real barbecue!


Looks like a stock photo from one of those outfits that supply illustrations for clothing catalogs.

Here's what a real BBQ master cooker looks like:

4.bp.blogspot.com

/Parker's
 
2012-09-21 02:37:40 PM  
For those in Chicago, check out Smoque.
 
2012-09-21 02:38:44 PM  

brnt00: [images1.makefive.com image 250x288]

/And a tall Ape Hanger Ale on the side please.


Good golly I miss Dinosaur Barbeque....
 
2012-09-21 02:40:04 PM  

JackieRabbit: There's fantastic BBQ to be had in every state from Virginia to Texas. The best places are dives. It the restaurant sells their sauce in commercial packaging, they forgot how to make BBQ long ago. Find someplace else.


i307.photobucket.com
 
2012-09-21 02:40:07 PM  

CharlieBrown: [roadsandkingdoms.com image 605x453]

Ya'll shut the hell UP!


Luling City Market?
 
2012-09-21 02:40:28 PM  

Cythraul: [www.delish.com image 400x400]

Look at the deliciousness that is a North Carolina pulled pork sammich.


You should be beaten with a cast iron frying pan for using the word "sammich."
 
2012-09-21 02:41:41 PM  
If your "barbeque" consists of lots of sauce, then you have no idea what you're doing with meat. You just like sauce. In my travels I'd definitely say that the place that you're most likely to get barbeque that tastes great without having to slather it with sauce is certainly Texas.
 
2012-09-21 02:43:53 PM  

DesertZephyr: CharlieBrown: [roadsandkingdoms.com image 605x453]

Ya'll shut the hell UP!

Luling City Market?


Luling City Market in Houston is not good BBQ.

City Market in Luling, TX is.

Please write this down for future reference.
 
2012-09-21 02:44:09 PM  
And if that WASN'T a pic from Luling City Market, then add it to the list of "the only place in Texas to eat BBQ"

/BBQ is served on brown paper
//with white bread
///in a cardboard beer box
 
2012-09-21 02:45:48 PM  
Carolina pork BBQ or Texas beef? Texas of course. Even the Lord Jesus himself would agree. No self respecting Jew would eat pork.
 
2012-09-21 02:47:22 PM  

BTing: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: No NC BBQ? Talk about a poorly reasoned list.

You disspoint me.

Slows


THIS a thousand times over. Better than any BBQ I ever had down in Texas!
 
2012-09-21 02:50:02 PM  

PallMall: DesertZephyr: CharlieBrown: [roadsandkingdoms.com image 605x453]

Ya'll shut the hell UP!

Luling City Market?

Luling City Market in Houston is not good BBQ.

City Market in Luling, TX is.

Please write this down for future reference.


*scribbles furiously*

I concede your point. If you ever get close to Luling CIty Market in Houston, keep goin a lil bit further over to Ragin Cajun and get sumthin good to eat.
 
2012-09-21 02:50:41 PM  

JackieRabbit: TheraTx: Thankfully no one has thrown up Sonny's or Slopes

we'll it has been thrown up but not as good nor in this thread.

I just threw up a little in the back of my throat. That crap ain't BBQ. Hell, sonny's stoops to using Liquid Smoke these days. Ate (tried to) there once about 10 years ago. It was vile. Never been back.



My sister married a yankee. His parents live down here now, and in an effort bond, the MiL asked my sister to lunch. "I want to take you to a great BBQ place I found", knowing my sis would appreciate it. "Cool" sis thought, maybe she found a gem.

It was all she could do not to scream "nooooooo!" when MiL made the turn into the Sonny's parking lot.
 
2012-09-21 02:51:43 PM  

waterrockets: JackieRabbit:
It the restaurant sells their sauce in commercial packaging, they forgot how to make BBQ long ago. Find someplace else.

People who make sweeping judgments based on one criterion, well, insert hypocritical comment here. Clearly you haven't eaten at Rudy's, nor purchased their sauce, which is my favorite (as a 3500-4000 calorie/day eater, I have a lot of experience eating)


Think what you will, my friend. I've watch at least a dozen very good restaurants go commercial and start selling their sauce, which they have mass-produced somewhere. At first it's just sold at the counter; then it starts showing up in local supermarkets. Finally it can be had almost everywhere. In the meantime, the restaurant's BBQ goes to hell in a handbag. Some of their customers think the BBQ is still fantastic, while everyone else thinks "what happened to this place!?!?" Real BBQ joints don't market their sauce. It's usually a well guarded secret.

And no, I have not eaten at Rudy's since I don't live in Texas. But I just looked it up. It's a chain. I don't eat at chain BBQ joints. Nor do I care about the preferences of a 3000-4000 kcal/day eater, since quantify is obviously more important than quality.
 
2012-09-21 02:53:34 PM  

JackieRabbit: And no, I have not eaten at Rudy's since I don't live in Texas. But I just looked it up. It's a chain.


It's a chain NOW. They've just been REALLY successful at what they do, and expanded. And damn if they aren't really good at BBQ.
 
2012-09-21 02:55:08 PM  
I don't really have a dog in this hunt, since I'm from Illinois. But any list that completely ignores KC, Memphis and Carolina but includes New York City is just straight-up trolling.

/Shout out to Hecky's BBQ in Evanston
//"It's the Sauce"
 
2012-09-21 02:57:12 PM  
She didn't say anything about Chili's baby back ribs...
 
2012-09-21 02:57:51 PM  

JackieRabbit: And no, I have not eaten at Rudy's since I don't live in Texas. But I just looked it up. It's a chain. I don't eat at chain BBQ joints. Nor do I care about the preferences of a 3000-4000 kcal/day eater, since quantify is obviously more important than quality.


Rudy's is decent, but it can be hit-or-miss. It didn't start as a chain, but has sort of grown in to one. I agree that once you chain out, quality will suffer. BBQ is an art form which requires patience and dedication.. once you start slacking, it all goes down hill.
 
2012-09-21 03:02:35 PM  

PallMall: JackieRabbit: And no, I have not eaten at Rudy's since I don't live in Texas. But I just looked it up. It's a chain. I don't eat at chain BBQ joints. Nor do I care about the preferences of a 3000-4000 kcal/day eater, since quantify is obviously more important than quality.

Rudy's is decent, but it can be hit-or-miss. It didn't start as a chain, but has sort of grown in to one. I agree that once you chain out, quality will suffer. BBQ is an art form which requires patience and dedication.. once you start slacking, it all goes down hill.


It's the patience thing that kills chains. Slow-cooking meat is an art that doesn't really conform to a clock at times. Do you think the pig needs another hour on the coals? Well, if you are cooking in your yard, just open another beer and relax. If you have to make a delivery to several restaurants by lunch time, too bad - take that meat all the grill and ship it out.

I occasionally help out a guy who still cooks with wood (whenever I clear land and cut down a hickory, I give it to him). If the fire decides to be slow to catch, and slow to "go to coal" one morning, you just have to sit and wait. He keeps a couple pounds in the fridge for people who eat lunch early, but it's sometimes a struggle to have fresh 'cue ready by lunchtime.
 
2012-09-21 03:04:42 PM  
saved the best for last:

visitsouth.com
 
2012-09-21 03:10:31 PM  

DesertZephyr: PallMall: DesertZephyr: CharlieBrown: [roadsandkingdoms.com image 605x453]

Ya'll shut the hell UP!

Luling City Market?

Luling City Market in Houston is not good BBQ.

City Market in Luling, TX is.

Please write this down for future reference.

*scribbles furiously*

I concede your point. If you ever get close to Luling CIty Market in Houston, keep goin a lil bit further over to Ragin Cajun and get sumthin good to eat.



If you HAVE to eat chain BBQ in Houston, try Goode company on Kirby and Bissonett
 
2012-09-21 03:14:19 PM  

xxysyndrome: saved the best for last:

[visitsouth.com image 500x500]


Their slaw sucks.

See upthread - that's the guy I give hickory to. Nice fellow, though. He's the "son" and was a professional hunter when he was younger.
 
2012-09-21 03:14:58 PM  
Good BBQ is BBQ that needs no sausce.
 
2012-09-21 03:17:28 PM  

killdawabbitt: If you HAVE to eat chain BBQ in Houston, try Goode company on Kirby and Bissonett


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Goode Co. is MEDIOCRE at best. You could save money and time and just go to any of the Pappas BBQ locations (many with Drive-Thrus) and get similar quality.

Goode Co. is just another themed chain like Landry's, Pappas, or any of the other similar offerings in and around Houston. That obnoxious, mirrored, armadillo with Longhorns across the street is a testament to that.
 
2012-09-21 03:20:30 PM  

charnov: They took 14th at the Jack Daniels World BBQ Invitational Championship 2011. That's pretty damn good.

Superbowl of barbeque

PallMall: charnov: Squealers in Indianapolis is pretty damn good, too...

2012 Grand Champion Overall

FAIL

Sam's Club isn't qualified to give out awards for meat, just fat.


I agree on the Sam's Club bit, and I don't care much for the Jack Daniel's one (not when they license their name to that sickly sweet crap they serve at Appleby's or Chili's or whichever chain they are passing that off as BBQ), but I saw the American Royal Invitational on that list. That, folks, is the World Series/Superbowl/World Cup of barbecue right there. So, I'd probably give it a shot (though I have seen some turn in award winning BBQ there, only to turn around and sell easier to cook substandard crap at their restaurant, so it's still not a guarantee.)

Bag of Hammers:
Yes, Texas being actual BBQ and KC being vinegar based salad dressing.


You are either an incredibly bad troll, or someone handed you a bottle of KC Masterpiece and that's the end all of your KC BBQ experience. Here's a hint - KC Masterpiece is below standard crap, begun by a PR Savvy rich guy from Johnson County who doesn't know a thing about good BBQ, who managed to sell his "sauce" recipe for a small fortune to the same people who make Clorox Bleach.

KC Style is as much about the smoking as the sauce - a lot of pitmasters guard the types and mix of wood they use as or more fiercely as they guard their sauce and rub recipes. That said, the sauce is mostly tomato and molasses base, with one notable exception. A lot use vinegar to some degree, but never so much that it's the stand out flavor.

You want to talk about vinegary sauce, you go to the Carolinas for that.

Pro-Tip - you can always order KC Barbecue "dry", and it will still be one of the tastiest meals you've had.
 
2012-09-21 03:25:10 PM  

PallMall: 2KanZam: I have had great BBQ in:

-Georgia
-North Carolina
-South Carolina
-Tennessee
-West Virginia
-hell even California

But every frickin' time I go to Texas I try to find decent bbq. Every Frickin time it sucks...I don't get it. I literally can rarely finish it (which I love to eat and hate to waste food)

So yes Texas Barbeque sucks.

*checks profile*

Ahhhh, WV.

You get a pass on this one. It is my understanding that the taste buds on most West Virginas haven't evolved past Opossum, Rat, Racoon, etc due to the limitations of the gene pool.



And that lack of understanding makes you an idiot and an asshole.
 
2012-09-21 03:25:22 PM  
ytrewq.com

/Citation for aforementioned obnoxious armadillo
 
2012-09-21 03:26:45 PM  
www.roadfood.com

The Brick Pit in Mobile, AL.

Far and away the best bbq I've ever had.
 
2012-09-21 03:27:11 PM  

jmr61: And that lack of understanding makes you an idiot and an asshole.


inserteyeroll.com
 
2012-09-21 03:27:24 PM  

Mr_Fabulous: I don't really have a dog in this hunt, since I'm from Illinois. But any list that completely ignores KC, Memphis and Carolina but includes New York City is just straight-up trolling.

/Shout out to Hecky's BBQ in Evanston
//"It's the Sauce"


there are some pretty good places here in NY. NYC has a few. The city has weird rules about the smokers (I think) I recall reading about special venting / scrubbers etc.

But in the last 10 - 15 years there have been some decent places spring up. I can't speak to the other areas of the country as I haven't had a chance to visit.

I prefer to do my own grilling. I don't have a smoker yet (for real BBQ).

I'm just north of the city and there has been a large increase in the number of small BBQ joints and brewers in the area.
 
2012-09-21 03:36:58 PM  

PallMall: [ytrewq.com image 640x444]

/Citation for aforementioned obnoxious armadillo


To be fair though, it is ACROSS the street, although Goode owns that bar as well. And the tacqueria on the other corner. And the Seafood place around that corner. Actually, I think that dude owns the whole block. But I think the BBQ (and tacos) are good. I found it much better than the Pappas joints. I won't speak for any of the other locations. I used to live right next to the taqueria. SOOO GOOD. The tacos with the 1/4 avocado in them.... yummy.....
 
2012-09-21 03:39:53 PM  
Nice to see some connoisseurs on this thread

Cooper's in Llano.

www.seriouseats.com
 
2012-09-21 03:40:35 PM  
It's funny to hear all the Southerners in here talking about the 'best' barbecue coming from down there. But really, when have Southerners been the best at anything?

I mean, look at cornbread. All the stuff in the south may have been pretty good back when you were cooking with cast iron on a wood stove (some people down there probably still are...) but harder-working, more careful artisans in places like SF and NYC are really taking things to the next level. It's the same with barbecue. What your grampa taught you isn't going to cut it anymore, not with the food knowledge and passion behind the better cooks in CA and NY, not to mention general technological know-how and more advanced techniques. Plus,the crowd is actually *interesting*, and the music is better.

NYC for BBQ all the way.
 
2012-09-21 03:44:09 PM  

thaduke: It's funny to hear all the Southerners in here talking about the 'best' barbecue coming from down there. But really, when have Southerners been the best at anything?

I mean, look at cornbread. All the stuff in the south may have been pretty good back when you were cooking with cast iron on a wood stove (some people down there probably still are...) but harder-working, more careful artisans in places like SF and NYC are really taking things to the next level. It's the same with barbecue. What your grampa taught you isn't going to cut it anymore, not with the food knowledge and passion behind the better cooks in CA and NY, not to mention general technological know-how and more advanced techniques. Plus,the crowd is actually *interesting*, and the music is better.

NYC for BBQ all the way.


That could be the douchiest, most "coastal elitest" thing I've ever read. In fact, it's so trolly: 9/10.
 
2012-09-21 03:45:45 PM  

killdawabbitt: To be fair though, it is ACROSS the street, although Goode owns that bar as well. And the tacqueria on the other corner. And the Seafood place around that corner. Actually, I think that dude owns the whole block. But I think the BBQ (and tacos) are good. I found it much better than the Pappas joints. I won't speak for any of the other locations. I used to live right next to the taqueria. SOOO GOOD. The tacos with the 1/4 avocado in them.... yummy.....


It's still a Goode Co. establishment, and it's positioned there to stare at you while you're at the BBQ joint. Plenty of better places for BBQ.
 
2012-09-21 03:47:01 PM  

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: thaduke: It's funny to hear all the Southerners in here talking about the 'best' barbecue coming from down there. But really, when have Southerners been the best at anything?

I mean, look at cornbread. All the stuff in the south may have been pretty good back when you were cooking with cast iron on a wood stove (some people down there probably still are...) but harder-working, more careful artisans in places like SF and NYC are really taking things to the next level. It's the same with barbecue. What your grampa taught you isn't going to cut it anymore, not with the food knowledge and passion behind the better cooks in CA and NY, not to mention general technological know-how and more advanced techniques. Plus,the crowd is actually *interesting*, and the music is better.

NYC for BBQ all the way.

That could be the douchiest, most "coastal elitest" thing I've ever read. In fact, it's so trolly: 9/10.


I concur.
 
2012-09-21 03:54:15 PM  

jmr61: If you don't have Dreamland in Birmingham on the list it's not a proper list. Yum.

[farm1.staticflickr.com image 640x426]


Having lived in Alabama for several years, I always felt that Dreamland was terribly overrated.
 
2012-09-21 03:56:22 PM  
www.mcdonalds.com

/oblig.
 
2012-09-21 04:01:22 PM  

InternetSecurityGuard: I have no idea who the owners of Meshack's over in Garland have fellated to garner so much love. I went by there and tried it. According to my binary rating system, it doesn't suck. My favorite around here is Mac's Barbecue on Main Street in Dallas.


Word.

My Top10 TX Q:
Black's/Lockhart
Cooper's/Llano
Franklin/Austin
Joe Allen's/Abilene
Mac's/Dallas
Kreuz's/Lockhart
Mac's/Brady
the original Sonny Bryan's/Dallas
Harold's/Abilene
Schoepf's/Belton

I live in Abilene, & my Mom went to high school in Lockhart with the founder of Black's, so I'm biased. When I ride my bicycle on the neighborhood side streets around Abilene on the weekends, you are always smelling some form form of animal smoking.
 
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