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(CNN)   CNN lists top BBQ joints in the country. The majority in Texas? Check. None in any other southern states? Check. List on the left, whinin' on the right, y'all   (eatocracy.cnn.com) divider line 341
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2012-09-21 12:41:59 PM  

PallMall: starleen: Austinite here. I don't go apeshiat over the Lockhart BBQ places. I don't need to go that far to get some mighty fine smoked meat goodness. My favorites are Mann's Smokehouse and Chief's BBQ. Chief's delivers BBQ! Do you hear me? BBQ delivered to your house. 

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The smoke ring on that brisket looks a little weak there, podnuh.


Sharp knees?
 
2012-09-21 12:42:31 PM  

UNC_Samurai: There are effectively only four good places to get BBQ in the world:

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And Ed Mitchell doesn't count; he doesn't cook any of the pigs at The Pit, or whatever Raleigh calls that overpriced joint these days.


KINGS!!!! Oh god I miss Kings. Living in Colorado is nice until you get that craving for pulled pork. Real eastern CarloinaBBQ does not exist in this desolate land.
 
2012-09-21 12:42:34 PM  
I have no idea who the owners of Meshack's over in Garland have fellated to garner so much love. I went by there and tried it. According to my binary rating system, it doesn't suck. My favorite around here is Mac's Barbecue on Main Street in Dallas.
 
2012-09-21 12:42:35 PM  

GoTarHeels: palladiate: Cythraul: You.. are... wrong.

Nope, I'm not wrong. The best barbecue is from EASTERN NC. You missed a word.

+1

/ where the weak grow strong and the strong grow great


Ab-so-farkin'-lutely.

There's good evidence that French explorers watching Native Americans smoke meat on the sand of what is now Carolina Beach south of Wilmington were the first Europeans to witness barbeque. They used a vinegar they made from sour apples to help preserve the meat.

Any list of BBQ joints should start with Jackson's Red Oak and Flip's in Wilmington and work westward including King's and Parker's and Stameys. By the time you get to Lexington, you might have your list of 100 restaurants filled, but you can find a few there to help pad things out.

People who put ketchup on beef and call it BBQ should be ashamed.
 
2012-09-21 12:43:01 PM  

UNC_Samurai: There are effectively only four good places to get BBQ in the world:

[www.ncbbqsociety.com image 432x324]

[racersreunion.com image 550x412]

[farm4.static.flickr.com image 500x332]

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And Ed Mitchell doesn't count; he doesn't cook any of the pigs at The Pit, or whatever Raleigh calls that overpriced joint these days.


This may be the most properly and thoroughly documented and intelligent post I have ever read on Fark.
 
2012-09-21 12:43:04 PM  
List fails without anything from Oklahoma.

Billy Sims is a chain BBQ and better than almost any other i've been too in other parts of the country.

Wild Horse Mountain, is located on Wild horse mountain, just south of Sallisaw, Ok

Probably best in the state.
 
2012-09-21 12:43:23 PM  
You can't have a list without Kansas City and Memphis, or even this great sauce from the best BBQ in Ponca City Oklahoma (even if it has a suggestive name).
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2012-09-21 12:44:01 PM  

ManRay: mr_bunny: For 2 Texas brothers to move to Atlanta and bring Texas BBQ there, and succeed, is quite a thing.

Exactly.

Pulling off Texas style brisket in Georgia is not an easy thing. Daddy D's is just down the street yet Fox Brothers still has a wait for dinner.


My inlaws, being from SC, had never seen brisket before they first came to my house. Now they love it.

BBQ to them is pulled pork.

I lean toward ribs and brisket, but I am no BBQ snob in that I love all BBQ.
 
2012-09-21 12:45:46 PM  
BBQ is the only redeeming quality of the south. When they rise again, and we tell them to please, please go, we will ensure that the United States military continues to allow us unfettered access to the meat.

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2012-09-21 12:46:16 PM  
I will give props to TX for Stubb's BBQ sauce. Otherwise I still think we should wall them off from the rest of the country.
 
2012-09-21 12:46:28 PM  

Voiceofreason01: As a Kansas City native: this list is terrible


THIS.
You have to wait two to three hours in line to get Oklahoma Joe's, and those people are by no means slow. The fact that the list is all Texas leads me to believe the author is too. I've been to Texas, their Bbq blows, even in Plano.
 
2012-09-21 12:46:51 PM  
No Memphis = FAIL. Or North Carolina.

And for the record, the Rendezvous does not have the best ribs, it's an awesome atmosphere, and their sauce and dry rub is fantastic. Plus, they invented BBQ nachos.
 
2012-09-21 12:47:38 PM  
Didn't we already have this thread earlier this week?
 
2012-09-21 12:47:47 PM  

error 303: Based only on places I've ever actually been to, I'd say, in order:

Gates (Kansas City)
Oklahoma Joe's (Kansas City)
Pappy's (Saint Louis)
Arthur Bryant's (Kansas City)
Rooster's (Saint Paul)

Honorable mention :
Jack Stack (Kansas City)

And then a bunch of other stuff... Never been to Texas other than the Airport, but I'm not a fan of any of the Carolina barbecue stuff...


As you are from Missouri too, next time your rolling to St. Louis, stop in St. Peters and try Lil Mickey's Memphis BBQ. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

/Eating PP sammy from there right now
 
2012-09-21 12:47:49 PM  
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I wasn't sure I could stay in San Francisco. Then I found Memphis Minnies. 2 months lather I moved three blocks away.
 
2012-09-21 12:48:25 PM  

clintster: FTFA: Hill Country Barbecue - New York City and Washington, DC

NEW YORK CITY?


ytrewq.com
 
2012-09-21 12:50:39 PM  

abhorrent1: I will give props to TX for Stubb's BBQ sauce. Otherwise I still think we should wall them off from the rest of the country.


My father in law keeps the good whiskey for him, and the "regular" whiskey for everyone else.

I keep the Stubbs for me, and the "regular" sauce for everyone else.

/ Served on the side.
 
2012-09-21 12:51:33 PM  
first time i went down South i was horribly disappointed to find joint after joint selling so-called BBQ that was pulled pork sammiches. so farking sad. toothless morans.
 
2012-09-21 12:51:35 PM  

fugeeface: List fail. Here be honest BBQ: The Mean Pig BBQ 
You really can't go wrong when a place has a US patent on their beans. Need to go back...


Nice! And the Mean Pig isn't even the best BBQ in Arkansas (that'd be Whole Hog, the restaurant the founder's wife made him build to house all the competitive BBQ trophies his team won).
 
2012-09-21 12:51:37 PM  
BS, the best BBQ joint in the world is in My own back yard!!

home.comcast.net 


//Mmmmm, ribs
 
2012-09-21 12:51:47 PM  
y'all want to know something crazy:

best bbq I ever had was in mexico for a wedding. they dug a pit in the ground and smoked a whole goat in it for maybe a day or two.

there are a million different types of bbq. i believe that any one of them, done correctly, can be amazing. thus, any future bbq lists should define the criteria of comparison

for example, best bbq of this style, etc. it's useless to argue texas bbq is better the nc bbq. they're different animals, woods, techniques, styles, sauces, everything.

comparing the world of bbq is like compared rack of lamb to a ribeye. it's a pointless comparison
 
2012-09-21 12:51:52 PM  
GOD TIER:

www.mcdonalds.com
 
2012-09-21 12:52:44 PM  
Good stuff in this thread...taking notes and will visit some of these joints.
 
2012-09-21 12:53:01 PM  
The best BBQ I've ever had was this BBQ rib sandwich they do at my local McDonald's. They only bring it out for a few weeks out of the year, because the cooking of it would overwhelm them on an everyday basis, but dang it is worth it.
 
2012-09-21 12:53:53 PM  

Rent Party: abhorrent1: I will give props to TX for Stubb's BBQ sauce. Otherwise I still think we should wall them off from the rest of the country.

My father in law keeps the good whiskey for him, and the "regular" whiskey for everyone else.

I keep the Stubbs for me, and the "regular" sauce for everyone else.

/ Served on the side.


stubbs makes an awesome sauce. furthermore, stubbs is an awesome live venue joint. however, it's a terrible place for barbecue. they've really let the restaurant quality slide

/ yeah, stubbs is a bar. btw.
 
2012-09-21 12:54:01 PM  

Voiceofreason01: As a Kansas City native: this list is terrible


Not a single KC reference. Not one. I too live in KC, and I am shocked...SHOCKED that KC wasn't even mentioned....

I mean what else is KC known for? Jazz? Fountains? Google Fiber? SRSLY.
 
2012-09-21 12:55:50 PM  

pute kisses like a man: y'all want to know something crazy:

best bbq I ever had was in mexico for a wedding. they dug a pit in the ground and smoked a whole goat in it for maybe a day or two.


That is barbacoa. It is also West and South Texas' version of BBQ.
 
2012-09-21 12:56:07 PM  

mr_bunny: My inlaws, being from SC, had never seen brisket before they first came to my house. Now they love it.

BBQ to them is pulled pork.

I lean toward ribs and brisket, but I am no BBQ snob in that I love all BBQ.



I would probably agree more with your in-laws about what BBQ is and isn't. But Fox Bros. made me change my mind about brisket. One Star (the other Texas place in town) did not.
 
2012-09-21 12:56:16 PM  
Best BBQ ribs I ever ate were on Maui, at Al's Bar. Go figure.

/yes, there was alcohol involved.
 
2012-09-21 12:56:17 PM  

ChipNASA: THIS is how you do BBQ *PROPERLY*
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With respect, since when did McRibs from McDonald's evar be considered good BBQ?



/Hold the pickle
//I keed
 
2012-09-21 12:56:40 PM  

uksocal: The best BBQ I've ever had was this BBQ rib sandwich they do at my local McDonald's. They only bring it out for a few weeks out of the year, because the cooking of it would overwhelm them on an everyday basis, but dang it is worth it.


You ain't from around here... are ya, boy?
 
2012-09-21 12:56:41 PM  
I have had great BBQ in:

-Georgia
-North Carolina
-South Carolina
-Tennessee
-West Virginia
-hell even California

But every frickin' time I go to Texas I try to find decent bbq. Every Frickin time it sucks...I don't get it. I literally can rarely finish it (which I love to eat and hate to waste food)

So yes Texas Barbeque sucks.
 
2012-09-21 12:58:12 PM  
Ya'll, along with CNN are wrong.

The best BBQ in the universe is what I make from a secret recipe.

The secret is Jack Daniels.
 
2012-09-21 12:58:17 PM  

Cythraul



The best BBQ is from North Carolina.

No, I don't care if your opinion is contrary to mine. You are wrong.

You.. are... wrong.


Did you say something?
 
2012-09-21 12:59:11 PM  

2KanZam: I have had great BBQ in:

-Georgia
-North Carolina
-South Carolina
-Tennessee
-West Virginia
-hell even California

But every frickin' time I go to Texas I try to find decent bbq. Every Frickin time it sucks...I don't get it. I literally can rarely finish it (which I love to eat and hate to waste food)

So yes Texas Barbeque sucks.


*checks profile*

Ahhhh, WV.

You get a pass on this one. It is my understanding that the taste buds on most West Virginas haven't evolved past Opossum, Rat, Racoon, etc due to the limitations of the gene pool.
 
2012-09-21 12:59:33 PM  

PallMall: carnifex2005: They're right. Texas BBQ is the best.

Which style? Central Texas, West/South Texas, or East Texas? All are very distinct and a completely different experience.

Now, if you would have said "Texas has the best BEEF BBQ," you'd be correct.


Now that you mention it, all I've ate for Texas BBQ was beef. I'm a Canadian who travels a lot for work. I've been to KC, Memphis, St. Louis, tons of other cities in the South and my favourite BBQ always was in Texas (been to San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, Houston and other smaller towns in between) and I always ended up preferring the the BBQ beef brisket. I never liked beef brisket until I went to Texas. It was quite the revelation. I like it better than pork BBQ in other places and I never thought that would have been the case.
 
2012-09-21 01:00:19 PM  
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There's no need to plod around the giant state of Texas to choke down a bit of dry brisket doused in Kraft sauce and then follow it up with some jalapeno sausage. Here in one city, Kansas City, we have our pick of world class BBQ because we better meat and better sauces. You can keep your list if it makes "y'all" feel better!
 
2012-09-21 01:01:36 PM  
Came here expecting to see Lockhart on the list, leaving satisfied. The same kind of satisfied you feel after eating any Lockhart BBQ.

/you don't win friends with salad!
 
2012-09-21 01:03:18 PM  

PallMall: barbacoa

= barbecue.

they're cognates. that was all that my point was supposed to make. in the south, people have taken a dogmatic and very limiting approach to barbecue.

personally, I prefer to broaden my culinary horizons as opposed to limit them. these bbq arguments always tick me off, because it's too much about style and never about substance.

to me, bbq is cooking dead things with fire/smoke. every region has a special way of doing it. if someone were to say their favorites, I'd be happy, but instead it's a long debacle about how everyone else is wrong.

my only standard is taste. history is only helpful if it tastes better.
 
2012-09-21 01:03:57 PM  

carnifex2005: PallMall: carnifex2005: They're right. Texas BBQ is the best.

Which style? Central Texas, West/South Texas, or East Texas? All are very distinct and a completely different experience.

Now, if you would have said "Texas has the best BEEF BBQ," you'd be correct.

Now that you mention it, all I've ate for Texas BBQ was beef. I'm a Canadian who travels a lot for work. I've been to KC, Memphis, St. Louis, tons of other cities in the South and my favourite BBQ always was in Texas (been to San Antonio, Austin, Dallas, Houston and other smaller towns in between) and I always ended up preferring the the BBQ beef brisket. I never liked beef brisket until I went to Texas. It was quite the revelation. I like it better than pork BBQ in other places and I never thought that would have been the case.


There are ribs, pork, etc on the BBQ menus in Texas, but beef is by far the big deal down here. That and smoked sausage. You'll find a lot of the ribs are beef as well. Texas is where they invented cows for eatin' so brisket and real fajitas are in abundance here.
 
2012-09-21 01:04:13 PM  

pute kisses like a man: Rent Party: abhorrent1: I will give props to TX for Stubb's BBQ sauce. Otherwise I still think we should wall them off from the rest of the country.

My father in law keeps the good whiskey for him, and the "regular" whiskey for everyone else.

I keep the Stubbs for me, and the "regular" sauce for everyone else.

/ Served on the side.

stubbs makes an awesome sauce. furthermore, stubbs is an awesome live venue joint. however, it's a terrible place for barbecue. they've really let the restaurant quality slide

/ yeah, stubbs is a bar. btw.


Yeah, great sauce doesn't = Great BBQ. Take Rendezvous. Great sauce, Meh, on the food. Finding a place that does both right is the trick.
There's a place about 4 blocks from my house called Johnny's. You can smell it a mile away. It's run by some 400 year-old black woman with a heavy southern accent. I had high hopes, but was severely disappointed. Only ate there once. The home made sauce was great but they don't sell it separately.
 
2012-09-21 01:04:26 PM  
Really the best BBQ is what you grew up with. Because good BBQ is about more than the meat, its about things that happened while the meat was being cooked or when it was being enjoyed.

So I'll take you NC pulled pork, memphis ribs, texas brisket and KC sauce soaked pork and ribs along with anything your dad cooked in the backyard now and so many years ago.

It was the best.
 
2012-09-21 01:04:29 PM  

PallMall: Citrate1007: #1 People will never agree on BBQ
#2 If you need sauce at a BBQ joint then you suck at BBQ

BBQ Rule 4: The exception for using sauce (must be made on same site as BBQ) is when you've pulled the leftovers out of the fridge 3 or more days following - and need to bring it back to life.


What's this "leftovers" you speak of?
 
2012-09-21 01:06:07 PM  

corch: ChipNASA: THIS is how you do BBQ *PROPERLY*
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 281x400]

With respect, since when did McRibs from McDonald's evar be considered good BBQ?



/Hold the pickle
//I keed


You're close.....it's Tofu.
 
2012-09-21 01:06:30 PM  
This is the quality of CNN's barbeque coverage, which should give you an idea of how accurately CNN covers other issues.
 
2012-09-21 01:07:32 PM  

ManRay: mr_bunny: My inlaws, being from SC, had never seen brisket before they first came to my house. Now they love it.

BBQ to them is pulled pork.

I lean toward ribs and brisket, but I am no BBQ snob in that I love all BBQ.


I would probably agree more with your in-laws about what BBQ is and isn't. But Fox Bros. made me change my mind about brisket. One Star (the other Texas place in town) did not.


Community BBQ out there is also not too shabby. I can't say they are as good as Fox Bros, but they are pretty darn good.
 
2012-09-21 01:08:00 PM  

UNC_Samurai: There are effectively only four good places to get BBQ in the world:


I won't disagree with any of those in the top 5, but you forgot Wilber's!
 
2012-09-21 01:08:18 PM  

pute kisses like a man: Blah blah blah, foodie gibberish


Northern Mexico, South Texas and West Texas are all locations where you tend to find more barbacoa, which is generally where they bury the meat being cooked. Goat (Cabrito) is one of the more popular things for this, but we've done it with pig heads, cow heads, etc too. We've also thrown ribs and brisket in there as well so all of the flavors could meld together (sort of a like a turducken).

Don't get all pious with your foodie non-sense. Distinctive styles and flavors are regional, and in Texas, we have multiple distinct styles for Barbeque/Barbecue/BBQ/Bar-B-Q/Barbacoa, etc.
 
2012-09-21 01:15:15 PM  

PallMall: We've also thrown ribs and brisket in there as well so all of the flavors could meld together (sort of a like a turducken).


sounds awesome.

/ didn't mean to be pious, meant to be the opposite. i just like food
 
2012-09-21 01:15:28 PM  
Having lived in TX and thoroughly sampled BBQ there before moving to St Louis, I can say this list fails without mention of City Market in Luling, TX.

Also, KC and StL BBQ are very different than Texas style BBQ, so probably should be on a separate list.

I've been to the NYC joint- Hill Country (my cousin was raving about it and took me there). It pales in comparison to basically every BBQ I went to in San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, and Austin. It's not even in the same ballpark- it's not even the same sport.
 
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