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(The Business Journals)   Walmart joins Target in refusing to sell Kindles. If only there was a website of some sort where you could buy one directly   (bizjournals.com) divider line 51
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2012-09-21 08:12:50 AM
I wonder how many kindles are sold through those channels anyway.
 
2012-09-21 08:30:21 AM
Begun, the Kindle Wars have.
 
2012-09-21 08:36:32 AM
I don't think "readers" are exactly Wal*Mart's target demo anyway.

/suppose that was a douchey, elitist thing to say
//but really, have you been in one?
 
2012-09-21 08:52:06 AM
I got mine at Best Buy.

/Had a BB gift card gathering dust...
 
2012-09-21 08:54:01 AM
Probably because they wanted them to start making the Kindle cheaper, possibly by firing the teenagers in China and switching to pre-pub's.
 
2012-09-21 08:55:01 AM
That's funny. When I bought my Fire I was standing in front of the stupid security cage at Target looking for any kind of assistance to get the stupid thing open. The only downside for your average consumer is that now they will not have the handy UPC to scan in the stores with the Amazon app on their smart phones.
 
2012-09-21 09:01:26 AM
I have no clue why, but I larfed more at this headline than any other today. +1
 
2012-09-21 09:08:19 AM
Hmm. I just ordered mine straight from Amazon. I have Prime already anyway, free 2 day shipping...
 
2012-09-21 09:11:48 AM
I remember a story I heard on NPR some time back about traditional retailers being pissed because Amazon set the price on the in-store Kindles, then dropped the price on their own website. Effectively, the retailers felt like Amazon was just exploiting the deal as a way to get floor space in the stores for customers to get a hands-on demo of the devices before buying them direct through Amazon.

Wonder if the big boxes have finally had enough of those shenanigans?
 
2012-09-21 09:16:08 AM
Ever broken a Kindle in the middle of a book? I have, and I absolutely ran to WalMart and got a new one.
 
2012-09-21 09:25:35 AM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: I remember a story I heard on NPR some time back about traditional retailers being pissed because Amazon set the price on the in-store Kindles, then dropped the price on their own website. Effectively, the retailers felt like Amazon was just exploiting the deal as a way to get floor space in the stores for customers to get a hands-on demo of the devices before buying them direct through Amazon.


The guy who runs Amazon is notorious for those kinds of shenanigans. Nothing he does is ever illegal, but it's often anti-competitive and unethical.
 
2012-09-21 09:27:50 AM

Jerkwater: Ever broken a Kindle in the middle of a book? I have, and I absolutely ran to WalMart and got a new one.


Yeah, those damn books, if you don't read them immediately you never get a chance to read the story again.
 
2012-09-21 09:29:06 AM

jaylectricity: Probably because they wanted them to start making the Kindle cheaper, possibly by firing the teenagers in China and switching to pre-pub's.


I was about to call you retarded for suggesting such a stupid idea, but then I remembered we're talking about Wal-Mart. It's what they do.
 
2012-09-21 09:29:11 AM

Gunther: Vegan Meat Popsicle: I remember a story I heard on NPR some time back about traditional retailers being pissed because Amazon set the price on the in-store Kindles, then dropped the price on their own website. Effectively, the retailers felt like Amazon was just exploiting the deal as a way to get floor space in the stores for customers to get a hands-on demo of the devices before buying them direct through Amazon.

The guy who runs Amazon is notorious for those kinds of shenanigans. Nothing he does is ever illegal, but it's often anti-competitive and unethical.


And WalMart didn't like that? You think they would've just shared a cigarette after that.
 
2012-09-21 09:37:47 AM

Gunther: The guy who runs Amazon is notorious for those kinds of shenanigans. Nothing he does is ever illegal, but it's often anti-competitive and unethical.


Then he fits right in with the rest of the modern tech sector.
 
2012-09-21 09:43:19 AM

Girion47: Jerkwater: Ever broken a Kindle in the middle of a book? I have, and I absolutely ran to WalMart and got a new one.

Yeah, those damn books, if you don't read them immediately you never get a chance to read the story again.


Or you know, load the Kindle app on just about any handheld electronic device that has been made in the past 4 years.
 
2012-09-21 09:46:21 AM

Honest Bender: I got mine at Best Buy.

/Had a BB gift card gathering dust...


Damn, good point, I gotta dump my BB gift cards before they go belly up.
 
2012-09-21 10:10:23 AM
I bought both of my kids kindles at Target.

Tax free holiday plus no shipping made it worth my while.

gone forever: "Dad, I can't do my homework, I left my book at school..."
 
2012-09-21 10:12:39 AM

Mugato: I don't think "readers" are exactly Wal*Mart's target demo anyway.


According to Publisher's Weekly, Walmart is the 4th largest US book retailer, behind Amazon, Barnes&Noble, and 'independent'. They sell a lot of books.
 
2012-09-21 10:33:47 AM

stpauler: Gunther: Vegan Meat Popsicle: I remember a story I heard on NPR some time back about traditional retailers being pissed because Amazon set the price on the in-store Kindles, then dropped the price on their own website. Effectively, the retailers felt like Amazon was just exploiting the deal as a way to get floor space in the stores for customers to get a hands-on demo of the devices before buying them direct through Amazon.

The guy who runs Amazon is notorious for those kinds of shenanigans. Nothing he does is ever illegal, but it's often anti-competitive and unethical.

And WalMart didn't like that? You think they would've just shared a cigarette after that.


After decades of watching Walmart ass-rape small town America my sympathy is all that it should be...i.e., none to speak of.

wingnut396: Or you know, load the Kindle app on just about any handheld electronic device that has been made in the past 4 years.


Not to mention my vintage-2004 laptop that goes everywhere with me.
 
2012-09-21 10:40:35 AM

RickN99: According to Publisher's Weekly, Walmart is the 4th largest US book retailer, behind Amazon, Barnes&Noble, and 'independent'. They sell a lot of books.


You forgot to put quotes around "books". McDonald's is the largest "toy" distributor in the world, too.
 
2012-09-21 10:51:06 AM

Mugato: I don't think "readers" are exactly Wal*Mart's target demo anyway.

/suppose that was a douchey, elitist thing to say
//but really, have you been in one?



Actually, I've found that a lot of people whom I would have never guessed even knew how to read do in fact read lots of books. Granted, it's retarded nonsense like Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey, but they do read a lot.
 
2012-09-21 10:56:52 AM

wingnut396: Girion47: Jerkwater: Ever broken a Kindle in the middle of a book? I have, and I absolutely ran to WalMart and got a new one.

Yeah, those damn books, if you don't read them immediately you never get a chance to read the story again.

Or you know, load the Kindle app on just about any handheld electronic device that has been made in the past 4 years.


I barely ever use my actual kindle anymore. I just use their cloud reader through my web browser. I know some people don't like to read something like a book off their computer screen, but I have no problem. It's more convenient.
 
2012-09-21 11:02:40 AM

RickN99: Mugato: I don't think "readers" are exactly Wal*Mart's target demo anyway.

According to Publisher's Weekly, Walmart is the 4th largest US book retailer, behind Amazon, Barnes&Noble, and 'independent'. They sell a lot of books.


How many of those are romance novels and "LIBS ARE TEH SUCK" political books?
 
2012-09-21 11:12:42 AM
Not selling them at Wal-Mart sounds more like smart branding/marketing for Amazon than a setback.
 
2012-09-21 11:23:40 AM

RickN99: Mugato: I don't think "readers" are exactly Wal*Mart's target demo anyway.

According to Publisher's Weekly, Walmart is the 4th largest US book retailer, behind Amazon, Barnes&Noble, and 'independent'. They sell a lot of books.


Probably 99% of those sales are Harry Potter, Twilight, 50 Shades, Hunger Games etc.
 
2012-09-21 11:33:02 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Not selling them at Wal-Mart sounds more like smart branding/marketing for Amazon than a setback.


Maybe they need to go old-school and rebrand them the same way that Sears used to sell the Atari 2600
as a Sears Tele-Games?

/Get off my lawn
 
2012-09-21 11:52:01 AM

Mugato: I don't think "readers" are exactly Wal*Mart's target demo anyway.


Nor are readers Amazon's target demo.
 
2012-09-21 12:06:19 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Mugato: I don't think "readers" are exactly Wal*Mart's target demo anyway.

Nor are readers Amazon's target demo.


wat?
 
2012-09-21 01:08:56 PM

stpauler: Gunther: Vegan Meat Popsicle: I remember a story I heard on NPR some time back about traditional retailers being pissed because Amazon set the price on the in-store Kindles, then dropped the price on their own website. Effectively, the retailers felt like Amazon was just exploiting the deal as a way to get floor space in the stores for customers to get a hands-on demo of the devices before buying them direct through Amazon.

The guy who runs Amazon is notorious for those kinds of shenanigans. Nothing he does is ever illegal, but it's often anti-competitive and unethical.

And WalMart didn't like that? You think they would've just shared a cigarette after that.


No, they all want to pitchers and not catchers when doing anti-competitive and unethical things.
 
2012-09-21 01:51:02 PM

RickN99: Mugato: I don't think "readers" are exactly Wal*Mart's target demo anyway.

According to Publisher's Weekly, Walmart is the 4th largest US book retailer, behind Amazon, Barnes&Noble, and 'independent'. They sell a lot of books.


have you *seen* the crap selection of books they sell at walmart?
 
2012-09-21 03:00:54 PM
I wonder where it's all headed.

Obviously brick and mortar stores can't survive on the current model of "I go look at it in the store, then order it from Amazon with Prime" model. What's the new model?

Discuss.....
 
2012-09-21 03:13:31 PM
Amazon gonna crush dem biatches.
 
2012-09-21 03:14:53 PM

SpectroBoy: I wonder where it's all headed.

Obviously brick and mortar stores can't survive on the current model of "I go look at it in the store, then order it from Amazon with Prime" model. What's the new model?

Discuss.....


For large purchases maybe, but people will always want some degree of instant gratification and the social aspect of shopping that can't really be reproduced online. It's not like a young woman and her girlfriends are going to all join a Google chat and browse Amazon in their individual homes.

Places like retail clothes, food, alcohol, cars and other small good may still be sold in brick & mortar stores, but good where people can delay gratification for a cheaper price (like electronics) may go online. Who wants to order paper towels, or manage a paper towel subscription online when it is easier to swing by a store now and then and just pick up a few rolls when you need a few things?

"Boutique" items and certain brands may still have stores (like Apple, designer home goods) and rural/poor areas without broadband will have large box stores. We'll always have a Target/Costco/Wal Mart etc. for commodity goods, but people wanting something beyond that will have to go online.

/IMHO
 
2012-09-21 03:17:20 PM

RickN99: According to Publisher's Weekly, Walmart is the 4th largest US book retailer, behind Amazon, Barnes&Noble, and 'independent'. They sell a lot of books.


Yes, if by books you mean Archie comics. Not ebooks either, but remainder bins full of Glenn Beck tomes and bibles and the like.
 
2012-09-21 03:18:08 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: RickN99: According to Publisher's Weekly, Walmart is the 4th largest US book retailer, behind Amazon, Barnes&Noble, and 'independent'. They sell a lot of books.

Yes, if by books you mean Archie comics. Not ebooks either, but remainder bins full of Glenn Beck tomes and bibles and the like.


Sold by the pound.
 
2012-09-21 03:59:21 PM
I did buy my kindle fire at Wallyworld, because the weekend I purchased it for 199, Wal-mart was giving away a $50 gift card..

So I got my fire for 150..
 
2012-09-21 04:06:17 PM

Jerkwater: Ever broken a Kindle in the middle of a book? I have, and I absolutely ran to WalMart and got a new one.


I broke my Kindle 2, but it was still sorta readable, so I called Amazon about it. Even though it broke because I dropped it and it was two months out of warranty, they shipped me a new one, free. Then I broke the replacement 8 months later (no warranty) by falling asleep on it, and they shipped me another one, again for free.

If you buy a lot of Kindle books Amazon will just keep mailing you the hardware. I average over 100 books a year.
 
2012-09-21 04:33:13 PM

syberpud: For large purchases maybe, but people will always want some degree of instant gratification and the social aspect of shopping that can't really be reproduced online. It's not like a young woman and her girlfriends are going to all join a Google chat and browse Amazon in their individual homes.


That can be trained out of people. I used to not mind going to the store, and even enjoyed the instant gratification. I shop online so much that I get the same buying feeling when I click the button and hear the UPS guy.

Plus, there's no reason they can't have local warehouses. Shop online, pick up same day, deliver the next. I really think that's where this is going - online ventures creating brick and mortar infrastructure around a warehouse. The warehouse has a small front end for servicing customers and showcasing featured product.
 
2012-09-21 05:27:56 PM
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2012-09-21 07:58:32 PM

Babwa Wawa: BarkingUnicorn: Mugato: I don't think "readers" are exactly Wal*Mart's target demo anyway.

Nor are readers Amazon's target demo.

wat?


Surely, you've noticed that Amazon sells a lot more than books.
 
2012-09-21 09:24:01 PM

Mugato: I don't think "readers" are exactly Wal*Mart's target demo anyway.

/suppose that was a douchey, elitist thing to say
//but really, have you been in one?


Stereotyping is fun. I would do you next, but I'm too lazy.
 
2012-09-21 09:31:34 PM
Here's my Kindle story:

My Mom and Dad visit this year and it dawns on me: Mom reads all the time! if anyone would love a Kindle she would! So I run over to my wife in the kitchen and whisper to her.

"Honey! I have a great idea for Mom's next gift! Let's get her a Kindle!"

"Your sister already got her one."

"oh."

"Like, three years ago."

"oh."

"She loves it. Says it's the best gift she's ever gotten."

"Ok. That's enough."
 
2012-09-21 10:12:59 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Here's my Kindle story:

My Mom and Dad visit this year and it dawns on me: Mom reads all the time! if anyone would love a Kindle she would! So I run over to my wife in the kitchen and whisper to her.

"Honey! I have a great idea for Mom's next gift! Let's get her a Kindle!"

"Your sister already got her one."

"oh."

"Like, three years ago."

"oh."

"She loves it. Says it's the best gift she's ever gotten."

"Ok. That's enough."


"You're a bad son."
 
2012-09-22 01:00:34 AM
As a Walmart employee who was planning on upgrading to a Kindle Fire soon, using my 10% employee discount, I am angered by this.
 
2012-09-22 01:30:31 AM
i like books i can fold, spindle and mutilate


call me old-fashioned
 
2012-09-22 02:35:01 AM
I just grabbed a Fire HD from Staples this past week, so Fark Wal-Mart right in their asses.

/It's actually a pretty decent tablet for $199, with more storage than the Nexus 7 and HDMI out
//Don't mind the special offers on the lock screen, but I do wish there was a way to disable the suggestions at the bottom of the home screen.
 
2012-09-22 03:15:47 AM

mjohnson71: RickN99: Mugato: I don't think "readers" are exactly Wal*Mart's target demo anyway.

According to Publisher's Weekly, Walmart is the 4th largest US book retailer, behind Amazon, Barnes&Noble, and 'independent'. They sell a lot of books.

Probably 99% of those sales are Harry Potter, Twilight, 50 Shades, Hunger Games etc.


I'm pretty sure those are the only books Walmart carries.
 
2012-09-22 08:16:04 AM

BarkingUnicorn: Surely, you've noticed that Amazon sells a lot more than books.


True, but books are a focal point for Amazon. Few book lovers in the US lack an Amazon account. Plenty of book lovers shop elsewhere than Wal-Mart.
 
2012-09-22 09:52:56 AM
Do people buy electronics at Wal*Mart? They have shiattier versions of the same devices produced with cheaper materials so they can undercut other stores on the price. You're buying the shell of the device you wanted with a weak simulation of the actual device inside of it.
 
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