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2012-09-21 09:18:04 AM
i've read in peer-reviewed journals that fat kids also don't have emotional or physical sensitivity, which makes it completely acceptable to tease and throw things at them. fact.
 
2012-09-21 09:42:07 AM
Honestly I've noticed this with myself. I don't have much sense of taste. Texture, temperature, ate more important, and I tend to only pick out severe tastes like sacarine sweet or super salty or spicy.

5 9 and 270.
 
2012-09-21 10:09:58 AM
Probably because their tongues are permanently slathered with grease
 
2012-09-21 10:14:15 AM
Ever watch a fat k
 
2012-09-21 10:15:53 AM
Basically, they're saying fat kids will eat anything.
 
2012-09-21 10:18:56 AM
Ever watch a fat kid eat? There's no time to savor the flavor, there's barely time to chew. It's just chomp chomp gulp repeat. But hey, most kids aren't exactly models of self-discipline.

Pardon the flubbed post, I'm on the world's dumbest smart phone.
 
2012-09-21 10:25:54 AM
Things I find disgusting, I don't eat.

I find a lot of things disgusting.

I was a really skinny kid.

Then I grew up, moved out, mum wasn't around to tell me not to eat and entire box of cookies in an afternoon and my metabolism slowed.

Now at 32 I've got a tiny pot.

...I'm not getting much sympathy, am I.

/178cm (5'9.5"), somewhere between 160 and 170, very little of it muscle
//I have no idea what the point of any of this was
///slashy?
 
2012-09-21 10:27:19 AM
Supertasters versus subtasters. You could argue that with less sensitivity to flavors, some people are more likely to eat more, because the lower flavor signal doesn't saturate the satiety loop as quickly.
 
2012-09-21 10:45:49 AM

thomps: i've read in peer-reviewed journals that fat kids also don't have emotional or physical sensitivity, which makes it completely acceptable to tease and throw things at them. fact.


It's not that they feel less, it's that their lives are just less valuable.
 
2012-09-21 10:52:37 AM

theorellior: Supertasters versus subtasters. You could argue that with less sensitivity to flavors, some people are more likely to eat more, because the lower flavor signal doesn't saturate the satiety loop as quickly.


Any excuse to keep packing it away.
 
2012-09-21 12:02:00 PM
I have to wonder how much of this has to do with just becoming used to a certain level of salty/sweetness. If the obese kids are used to eating heavily salted items, light salt will start to become tasteless to them. Before I was married I seldom used table salt but after I got married my wife began salting everything. Now when I go to eat something that hasn't had salt added, it tastes too bland. Same thing happens with spicy foods. The more you eat, the more spice you need to still taste it. Sounds like this could be a similar situation.
 
2012-09-21 12:40:08 PM
They wore out their tastebuds via friction against foods, and don't give the tongue enough time in between meals to properly regenerate the taste buds.
 
2012-09-21 01:19:07 PM
Huh... I should probably be a lot skinnier then.
 
2012-09-21 01:43:15 PM

Subdue their bellies: Ever watch a fat kid eat? There's no time to savor the flavor, there's barely time to chew. It's just chomp chomp gulp repeat. But hey, most kids aren't exactly models of self-discipline.

Pardon the flubbed post, I'm on the world's dumbest smart phone.


I've got this one overweight friend who also has that picky eater thing. The list of foods he refuses to eat is extraordinarily long, and when he does eat, he eats like it hurts his face. It's like watching Homer Simpson at the dinner table. He makes up for it with quantity, high fat, and high salt, eating, say, an entire box of chicken patties, or whole DiGiorno's pizzas. I know his sense of smell is shot, but I wonder if his sense of taste is pretty much gone, too.

I'm the opposite. I love to try new things, I'm always reaching out to expand my diet, and I clock in at two hundred and forty pounds. Same place, different route.
 
2012-09-21 01:48:41 PM

Subdue their bellies: Ever watch a fat kid eat? There's no time to savor the flavor, there's barely time to chew. It's just chomp chomp gulp repeat. But hey, most kids aren't exactly models of self-discipline.

Pardon the flubbed post, I'm on the world's dumbest smart phone.


already have an iphone5?
 
2012-09-21 02:11:29 PM

Space Station Wagon: Any excuse to keep packing it away.


If the route to overindulgence can be identified, it can also be corrected.
 
2012-09-21 02:32:43 PM

peasandcarrots: Subdue their bellies: Ever watch a fat kid eat? There's no time to savor the flavor, there's barely time to chew. It's just chomp chomp gulp repeat. But hey, most kids aren't exactly models of self-discipline.

Pardon the flubbed post, I'm on the world's dumbest smart phone.

I've got this one overweight friend who also has that picky eater thing. The list of foods he refuses to eat is extraordinarily long, and when he does eat, he eats like it hurts his face. It's like watching Homer Simpson at the dinner table. He makes up for it with quantity, high fat, and high salt, eating, say, an entire box of chicken patties, or whole DiGiorno's pizzas. I know his sense of smell is shot, but I wonder if his sense of taste is pretty much gone, too.

I'm the opposite. I love to try new things, I'm always reaching out to expand my diet, and I clock in at two hundred and forty pounds. Same place, different route.


I really don't like how this study acts like things are set in stone. I know, for me, personally, cutting out candy made me suddenly "renotice" how delicious fruits are. Maybe they are just used to higher levels of stimulation, and need to use their brains and not their hormones to make all their decisions for them.  They didn't even TRY to control for a couple days of a bland diet to reset their perceptions.
 
2012-09-21 02:50:12 PM

Mr Guy: I really don't like how this study acts like things are set in stone. I know, for me, personally, cutting out candy made me suddenly "renotice" how delicious fruits are. Maybe they are just used to higher levels of stimulation, and need to use their brains and not their hormones to make all their decisions for them. They didn't even TRY to control for a couple days of a bland diet to reset their perceptions.


I'm with you, from personal experience. I've been going on and off of a mostly paleo diet for several years, and when you eat more fruits and vegetables (and less everything else), you notice the nuances of their flavors a lot more. I used to like a lot of salt on my food; these days, I use much less.

I think sweet and salty foods have a weird co-dependent relationship, where one makes you crave the other. Doritos make you want more soda. Soda makes you want more Doritos. That was me in high school, at least. Snacks was always a pairing of sweet and salty. Enough of that, and it gets to a point where your brain is looking for salt or sweet, and expects a certain baseline. Anything not aggressively one or the other doesn't register.
 
2012-09-21 03:41:27 PM

flux: Mr Guy: I really don't like how this study acts like things are set in stone. I know, for me, personally, cutting out candy made me suddenly "renotice" how delicious fruits are. Maybe they are just used to higher levels of stimulation, and need to use their brains and not their hormones to make all their decisions for them. They didn't even TRY to control for a couple days of a bland diet to reset their perceptions.

I'm with you, from personal experience. I've been going on and off of a mostly paleo diet for several years, and when you eat more fruits and vegetables (and less everything else), you notice the nuances of their flavors a lot more. I used to like a lot of salt on my food; these days, I use much less.

I think sweet and salty foods have a weird co-dependent relationship, where one makes you crave the other. Doritos make you want more soda. Soda makes you want more Doritos. That was me in high school, at least. Snacks was always a pairing of sweet and salty. Enough of that, and it gets to a point where your brain is looking for salt or sweet, and expects a certain baseline. Anything not aggressively one or the other doesn't register.


Not to mention, we use words to describe what we like, not words to describe what our body needs. For example in your Doritos example, salty foods make you crave WATER. Our brains associate sweet carbs with wet foods. We think "I'm craving donuts because I want sweet", while your body is throwing the only signal it's got, which is actually "Consume something with water in it." We throw off our body's signals when we train ourselves that sweet foods aren't hydrating foods, because mass produced sweet foods aren't hydrating. Carb-y breads and fruits ARE hydrating though. Our language betrays us.

//Hint: Best thing you'll ever do in life is learn to distinguish between "empty -- dehydrated" and "empty -- need caloric nourishment"
 
2012-09-21 03:41:51 PM
I'm going to conclude that, per the previous article about psychopaths having a poor sense of smell and given how connected taste and smell are, most fatties are psychopaths who just can't catch their intended victims.
 
2012-09-21 03:55:45 PM

scalpod: I'm going to conclude that, per the previous article about psychopaths having a poor sense of smell and given how connected taste and smell are, most fatties are psychopaths who just can't catch their intended victims.


Coupled with this study that links not carrying weight on your face with aggressiveness, and you can make a reasonable conclusion that psychopaths are just fatties who are overly hungry. 

//Interesting side note, the study authors thought they were researching face width, but they are clearly researching physical appearances of hunger/dehydration
 
2012-09-21 07:06:47 PM

Mr Guy: thomps: i've read in peer-reviewed journals that fat kids also don't have emotional or physical sensitivity, which makes it completely acceptable to tease and throw things at them. fact.

It's not that they feel less, it's that their lives are just less valuable.


I think it's both. That's why teasing and poking at them with sticks isn't enough of a deterrent. We need to use them as sandbags in Louisiana during Hurricane Season. Or along the Mississippi when it floods. We can poke them with sticks and call them fattie while they drown, and broadcast the video to fatties everywhere so they can learn to accept their new role in life or slim down.

/we'll obviously have to weight them down so their blubbery fattie-ness doesn't just make them float away with the water.
 
2012-09-22 12:09:12 AM

theorellior: Supertasters versus subtasters. You could argue that with less sensitivity to flavors, some people are more likely to eat more, because the lower flavor signal doesn't saturate the satiety loop as quickly.


Or that supertasters will refuse food that they don't like, and gorge on food they do like.

Why, now that you do mention it maybe I do sound fat.
 
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