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(New York Daily News)   One more layer of the onion just got peeled in the Jerry Sandusky pedo ring scandal   (nydailynews.com) divider line 75
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2012-09-21 10:02:57 AM  
Needs more photos of coach bellies wrapped in those polyester Bike shorts.
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SH
2012-09-21 10:03:12 AM  

TheVeryDeadIanMartin: I, of course, am a moron.


Phew! Thanks!
For a minute there I thought I was reading the wrong thread.
 
2012-09-21 10:06:37 AM  

vudukungfu: Void_Beavis: Whatever happened with that dead reporter and the missing laptop hard drive? (Too hung over for google)

Not a reporter
Ray Gricar was the DA


Right there is the murdedr man that sort of started the ball rolling. He was trying to expose this years ago and ended up missing, and now mostly forgotten. I wonder how high this does go.
 
2012-09-21 10:09:59 AM  

AbbeySomeone: MAYORBOB: [assets.nydailynews.com image 635x509]
Yeah, I'm pretty much farked

I interpret that look as " Heh, I'll just go along with this and wait for my buddies to get me out."


No. Like most of his kind of sex abusers, he has no grasp that was he's done is wrong. He doesn't understand how you and I feel about it. That's why he's sick enough to do it in the first place.

This case has really challenged my longstanding belief against the death penalty. This is ridiculously incurable, and it really is better for everyone if we just put him down like a rabid dog.
 
2012-09-21 10:12:28 AM  

Orgasmatron138: AbbeySomeone: MAYORBOB: [assets.nydailynews.com image 635x509]
Yeah, I'm pretty much farked

I interpret that look as " Heh, I'll just go along with this and wait for my buddies to get me out."

No. Like most of his kind of sex abusers, he has no grasp that was he's done is wrong. He doesn't understand how you and I feel about it. That's why he's sick enough to do it in the first place.

This case has really challenged my longstanding belief against the death penalty. This is ridiculously incurable, and it really is better for everyone if we just put him down like a rabid dog.


For starters, they should be auditing The Second Mile and following the money trail in and out of Penn State.

They need to reopen Ray Gricar's "suicide" case

They need to start asking questions about Joe Paterno's finances.

Sadly none of this is going to happen. They have their goat, admittedly a really guilty one, and thats that, done and dusted. Lone Gunman.
 
2012-09-21 10:13:26 AM  

Not Available: Quantum Apostrophe: Strange, I never hear about abuse in baseball or hockey... Every year there's some sort of ritual hazing in one of our university's football teams. We get it, you're gay and like dressing in tight pants with other men, but want to pretend you're straight. The stress must be ridiculous. And why is it always the most ridiculous-looking out-of-shape middle-aged porky men are football coaches? They just LOOK like they'd be into ANYTHING except sport!!

[cache.deadspin.com image 340x330]

LOLWUT?


Regularly? All the time? Every year? How are the hockey scandals compared to the general population? How are the football scandals compared to the general population? How many broom handles up butts do you know of in the general population? How many at McGill?

If you don't think football is a homoerotic outlet for closet cases, you're nuts.
 
2012-09-21 10:19:35 AM  

Generation_D: They need to reopen Ray Gricar's "suicide" case

In April 2009, Bellefonte police revealed that before his disappearance, someone had used the home computer at Gricar's residence to perform internet searches on topics such as "how to wreck a hard drive", "how to fry a hard drive" and "water damage to a notebook computer".


That is some Casey Anthony-like coincidental evidence.

Methinks shenanigans involving the prostitution ring came into play, so he went underground.
 
2012-09-21 10:42:36 AM  
I always think it is weird when people conspire for these type of heinous crimes. Like how does the conversations start? At what point do two guys start chatting about "hey would you like me to bring some kid over for sex?" I mean I guess maybe their pedo smile gives it away or something, but it still seems odd -- too risky to approach people about.

I guess with pedos they are turned on by the taboo thrill aspect, so soliciting others to join them must be part of the risky behavior that drives them.

Same thing when I hear about two people participating in serial killing and other heinous crimes. I understand how people might conspire to commit financial crimes but planning to cannibalize, random sniping, brutal home invasions, etc.?
 
2012-09-21 10:56:31 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Not Available: Quantum Apostrophe: Strange, I never hear about abuse in baseball or hockey... Every year there's some sort of ritual hazing in one of our university's football teams. We get it, you're gay and like dressing in tight pants with other men, but want to pretend you're straight. The stress must be ridiculous. And why is it always the most ridiculous-looking out-of-shape middle-aged porky men are football coaches? They just LOOK like they'd be into ANYTHING except sport!!

[cache.deadspin.com image 340x330]

LOLWUT?

Regularly? All the time? Every year? How are the hockey scandals compared to the general population? How are the football scandals compared to the general population? How many broom handles up butts do you know of in the general population? How many at McGill?

If you don't think football is a homoerotic outlet for closet cases, you're nuts.


No sex scandals in hockey!!??!! Methinks Sheldon Kennedy & Theon Fleury would like to have a word with you.

//it's naive to think this is confined to football
 
2012-09-21 11:02:05 AM  

rhondajeremy: No sex scandals in hockey!!??!! Methinks Sheldon Kennedy & Theon Fleury would like to have a word with you.

//it's naive to think this is confined to football


How many times do I need to repeat this? What's the frequency of hockey scandals compared to the general population? You have to dig back for decades to get anything for hockey.

With football, it seems like it's a prerequisite to get your ass pounded by a bunch of out of shape middle-aged closet cases.
 
2012-09-21 11:04:20 AM  
 
2012-09-21 11:25:27 AM  

rhondajeremy: Theon Fleury would like to have a word with you.


What is it with that name?

media.screened.com
 
2012-09-21 11:42:44 AM  
It's like a parfait...
 
2012-09-21 12:20:06 PM  

treesloth: It's like a parfait...


And everyone loves a parfait.
 
2012-09-21 12:22:46 PM  

rhondajeremy: Quantum Apostrophe: Not Available: Quantum Apostrophe: Strange, I never hear about abuse in baseball or hockey... Every year there's some sort of ritual hazing in one of our university's football teams. We get it, you're gay and like dressing in tight pants with other men, but want to pretend you're straight. The stress must be ridiculous. And why is it always the most ridiculous-looking out-of-shape middle-aged porky men are football coaches? They just LOOK like they'd be into ANYTHING except sport!!

[cache.deadspin.com image 340x330]

LOLWUT?

Regularly? All the time? Every year? How are the hockey scandals compared to the general population? How are the football scandals compared to the general population? How many broom handles up butts do you know of in the general population? How many at McGill?

If you don't think football is a homoerotic outlet for closet cases, you're nuts.

No sex scandals in hockey!!??!! Methinks Sheldon Kennedy & Theon Fleury would like to have a word with you.

//it's naive to think this is confined to football


All I'm sayin is that Rodman didn't always have to reach in order to put it in the hoop.

/not an actual allegation
//seriously this is a humour website and I know nothing about Rodman
 
Me
2012-09-21 12:24:43 PM  

sonnyjrob: dudemanbro: I'm betting Dick Cheney had something to do with it.

Close....

Conspiracy of Silence, a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3, 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies.


Here is the full documentary:

Conspiracy of Silence
 
2012-09-21 12:36:20 PM  

Jonny.the.Q: I wonder how high this does go.


Higher than the governor, that is for sure.
Because he's doing nothing.
The festering asshole.
 
2012-09-21 01:02:46 PM  
Still nothing new on the DA who pulled a Houdini?
 
2012-09-21 01:12:16 PM  

flynn80: Still nothing new on the DA who pulled a Houdini?


Decleared dead last year. I posted a piece I pulled off the web. Apparently just before he disappeared, someone searched on his home PC on the web for ways to destroy a hard drive and waterlogging a laptop. Coincidentally, when they found his laptop in the river, the hard drive was missing.

As for how high this goes...it's obvious it's VERY high, and that 1994 Discovery channel documentary is very interesting.

I was talking to one of my staffers about this a little while ago. Don't be surprised to hear about Sandusky getting got in prison if these government officials that are involved in said ring start worrying he might give up some names.
 
2012-09-21 01:15:38 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: How many times do I need to repeat this? What's the frequency of hockey scandals compared to the general population? You have to dig back for decades to get anything for hockey.


The key word in your original post was "never," as in "Strange, I never hear about abuse in baseball or hockey."

I never made (and do not now make) any statement as to which sport is more rapey.

So calm down and come on down off of your high horse.
 
2012-09-21 03:48:55 PM  
This is interesting. Sick, but interesting. The more digging is done, the bigger this gets, and the higher it goes. This is way bigger than PSU football, way bigger than even the university as a whole and it just seems to get bigger all the time. Ol' Jerry and the SNAFU at Penn State just was the weak link that broke and split the whole thing open. I wouldn't be surprised if there were other universities involved in this, as well as numerous businesses and charities. PSU was just the first domino to fall.
 
2012-09-21 04:33:04 PM  
Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of teams got nuked in the end.
 
2012-09-21 05:46:14 PM  

vudukungfu: Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of teams got nuked in the end.


I wouldn't be surprised if major, well known politicians end up in trouble over this.

/no I don't have a suspect in mind
//Politicians like raping the helpless though.
 
2012-09-22 09:55:09 AM  
"(Between) 1977-1980 I was a child prostitute associated with a tri-state (NYC-NJ-PA) pedophile ring. (During the) summer of 1979 I was brought to the State College area by Ed Savitz for the purpose of child prostitution with Jerry Sandusky at a Second Mile fundraiser," Bucceroni wrote in the email. "Due to time constraints, Sandusky became unavailable and I was introduced to Phil Foglietta by Ed Savitz & Jerry Sandusky. Foglietta was introduced to us as Coach Phil who coached youth football in NYC. Foglietta agreed to pay $200.00 for child sex and followed us back to a Philadelphia hotel, myself (sic)ad another child prostitute then engaged coach Phil in child sex."

A spokeswoman for the school said Poly Prep had no comment on Bucceroni's email.

In a series of interviews, Bucceroni told the Daily News that Savitz and Sandusky knew each other through Second Mile, political fund-raising and sports events. Bucceroni said his stepfather completed paperwork for the boy, then 16, to be enrolled in Second Mile in 1980 and that Bucceroni and Savitz delivered it to Sandusky, but that an altercation between Bucceroni and Savitz that same year destroyed any chances of him being accepted.


Okay, a word or two about semantics: This is not "child prostitution", nor is it about pedophilia. A man who is going after 15 year-old boys is not a pedophile, he is a homosexual predator. This is gay sex slavery, pure and simple.

It's crap like this that is the reason homosexuals are treated the way they are in this country. Any culture that encourages the abuse of younger men by older men is going to be frowned upon.
 
2012-09-22 01:19:13 PM  

Mouser: "(Between) 1977-1980 I was a child prostitute associated with a tri-state (NYC-NJ-PA) pedophile ring. (During the) summer of 1979 I was brought to the State College area by Ed Savitz for the purpose of child prostitution with Jerry Sandusky at a Second Mile fundraiser," Bucceroni wrote in the email. "Due to time constraints, Sandusky became unavailable and I was introduced to Phil Foglietta by Ed Savitz & Jerry Sandusky. Foglietta was introduced to us as Coach Phil who coached youth football in NYC. Foglietta agreed to pay $200.00 for child sex and followed us back to a Philadelphia hotel, myself (sic)ad another child prostitute then engaged coach Phil in child sex."

A spokeswoman for the school said Poly Prep had no comment on Bucceroni's email.

In a series of interviews, Bucceroni told the Daily News that Savitz and Sandusky knew each other through Second Mile, political fund-raising and sports events. Bucceroni said his stepfather completed paperwork for the boy, then 16, to be enrolled in Second Mile in 1980 and that Bucceroni and Savitz delivered it to Sandusky, but that an altercation between Bucceroni and Savitz that same year destroyed any chances of him being accepted.

Okay, a word or two about semantics: This is not "child prostitution", nor is it about pedophilia. A man who is going after 15 year-old boys is not a pedophile, he is a homosexual predator. This is gay sex slavery, pure and simple.

It's crap like this that is the reason homosexuals are treated the way they are in this country. Any culture that encourages the abuse of younger men by older men is going to be frowned upon.


Further semantics: this is not pedophilia. Pedophilia refers to sexual attraction to those who have not undergone puberty. This is ephebophilia, sexual attraction to a post-pubescent underage person. Sandusky's case is pedophilia- as there is little chance a 8-10 year old boy would be post-pubescent- and these are ephebophilia.
 
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