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(Oregon Live)   Man upset that the military didn't pay for a live bagpiper, drummer, and trumpeter at his father's funeral   (blog.oregonlive.com) divider line 7
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2012-09-21 04:53:40 AM
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As somebody who has actually served in a Honor Guard, I can tell you he got just what everyone that served but is not on active duty and not retired military gets. He wasn't shorted. This is nothing new. When I was on the honor guard in 2003 we had the same standard. Active duty death funeral, full honors, rifle team, flag team, officer. Retired, 7 man detail doing rifle and flag. Served but that's it, 3 people. As for the digital taps recording, yes, it is fake, but the best Honor Guards will fake the funk very well. I have had countless old buggers come up to tell me it was the best bugle playing they had heard since they were in the service, and I just said "thanks sir!" It's better than a CD player. What people are not keeping in mind is that WWII and Korea veterans are reaching that age where they are dying left and right, and a hell of a lot of people served. Millions. I would do 3-4 funerals a week, almost all old buggers from ancient times that finally went on to their final reward. I have NEVER, NEVER had any family members complain. They ALL were honored to have us there to celebrate their loved ones life. This guy was just an entitled tool, and the whole article is mountain out of molehill story making.

SGT DasCoop

US Army
2012-09-21 06:02:57 PM
1 votes:

kmwheel: My husband has asked that I scatter his ashes at Gettysburg, at some of his favorite sites. I don't know if it's allowed, but if they won't let me, I'm going to do it Shawshank style through the holes in my pockets.


That's an even better sendoff than having permission - the Shawshank Sendoff.
2012-09-21 11:44:20 AM
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MythDragon: DasCoop: As somebody who has actually served in a Honor Guard, I can tell you he got just what everyone that served but is not on active duty and not retired military gets. He wasn't shorted. This is nothing new. When I was on the honor guard in 2003 we had the same standard. Active duty death funeral, full honors, rifle team, flag team, officer. Retired, 7 man detail doing rifle and flag. Served but that's it, 3 people. As for the digital taps recording, yes, it is fake, but the best Honor Guards will fake the funk very well. I have had countless old buggers come up to tell me it was the best bugle playing they had heard since they were in the service, and I just said "thanks sir!" It's better than a CD player. What people are not keeping in mind is that WWII and Korea veterans are reaching that age where they are dying left and right, and a hell of a lot of people served. Millions. I would do 3-4 funerals a week, almost all old buggers from ancient times that finally went on to their final reward. I have NEVER, NEVER had any family members complain. They ALL were honored to have us there to celebrate their loved ones life. This guy was just an entitled tool, and the whole article is mountain out of molehill story making.

SGT DasCoop

US Army

Same here. I did funeral honors for about a year. (Side duty. Mostly retired vets who had died from eating two many hostess fruit pies. A lot of those farkers where farking heavy). Die on active duty-full fanfare. Die after 20 good years of military service-pretty much the same thing. Served 3 years and left the military on your own accord-Yeah, we toss you a flag and say thanks for 1/6th of what everyone else did. What the fark do you want? The military wasn't your life. It was something you did to pay for college.

I am sad to say our Taps was played on a cassette player.


I used to play trumpet in high school (was pretty good actually) and after the local base lost it's trumpet player (and whole band), my JROTC instructor asked me to bring my trumpet one day while dressed in full uniform to the base. I spent the next two years at many a funeral providing taps for the local base.

I had to witness so many crying widows (many of which hugged me) which had fully expected a tape recording of taps. -I couldn't do all of the funerals, but I did as many as I could.

-It's a damn shame a high school student had to volunteer his time because the government refused to pay one extra salary so people could be honored at their funeral.
2012-09-21 09:55:46 AM
1 votes:

DasCoop: As somebody who has actually served in a Honor Guard...


MythDragon: I did funeral honors for about a year.


AsteroidB613: I was the NCO in charge of the funeral operations detachment at Fort McPherson, Ga in the late 80s.


Speaking as somebody who can afford to occasionally forget the fact that we even HAVE a military because of the sacrifices of those at whose funerals you served --

thank you, farkers, for what you did.
2012-09-21 08:08:48 AM
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DasCoop: As somebody who has actually served in a Honor Guard, I can tell you he got just what everyone that served but is not on active duty and not retired military gets. He wasn't shorted. This is nothing new. When I was on the honor guard in 2003 we had the same standard. Active duty death funeral, full honors, rifle team, flag team, officer. Retired, 7 man detail doing rifle and flag. Served but that's it, 3 people. As for the digital taps recording, yes, it is fake, but the best Honor Guards will fake the funk very well. I have had countless old buggers come up to tell me it was the best bugle playing they had heard since they were in the service, and I just said "thanks sir!" It's better than a CD player. What people are not keeping in mind is that WWII and Korea veterans are reaching that age where they are dying left and right, and a hell of a lot of people served. Millions. I would do 3-4 funerals a week, almost all old buggers from ancient times that finally went on to their final reward. I have NEVER, NEVER had any family members complain. They ALL were honored to have us there to celebrate their loved ones life. This guy was just an entitled tool, and the whole article is mountain out of molehill story making.

SGT DasCoop

US Army


Same here. I did funeral honors for about a year. (Side duty. Mostly retired vets who had died from eating two many hostess fruit pies. A lot of those farkers where farking heavy). Die on active duty-full fanfare. Die after 20 good years of military service-pretty much the same thing. Served 3 years and left the military on your own accord-Yeah, we toss you a flag and say thanks for 1/6th of what everyone else did. What the fark do you want? The military wasn't your life. It was something you did to pay for college.

I am sad to say our Taps was played on a cassette player.
2012-09-21 07:36:54 AM
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I'm guessing if the father had known the son was going to do this, he would have give him a kick in the ass, and told him how he was thankful he survived that day when so many of his brothers didn't. How he was grateful he was able to live a full life, have a family and die an old man, instead of dying as a kid in the hull of a ship.
2012-09-21 06:46:26 AM
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As someone who buried his 84 year old father, a US Navy Retired Senior Chief, at Willamette National Cemetery three weeks ago, I'm getting a kick out of this thread...

That being said, part of the story is true. It did feel a bit rushed and Taps was canned, but the rifle volley and full Honor Guard were live. And a US Navy Chief presented me with the flag that was draped over my dads casket.

I can only hope I receive the same honors when I go one fine day, 'cept of course it's a USAF Senior Chief presenting the flag to my daughter.

/I cried like a baby.
 
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