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2012-09-21 12:27:53 AM
It's true. Each generation talks about how they are more open than the previous one but still go along hating whatever they aren't used to. I mentioned these body modifications 10 years ago and everyone got grossed out by them, and furthermore said they wouldn't let their kids have these things. Even though they had body mods that their parents hated. Just recognize the formula and deal with it.

/I want glowing electronics under my skin, printable organs and genetic expression modification.
 
2012-09-21 12:29:58 AM
"Back in my day we got metal and ink put into our skins...AND WE LIKED IT! NOT LIKE THESE KIDS GETTING HORNS AN' JAGUAR TEETH? WHO NEEDS FELINE TOOTHES? IT'S ALL A COMMIE PLOT!"
 
2012-09-21 12:42:46 AM
His talk of having magnets implanted in his fingertips is intriguing, to the point I might even consider it. However, it seems like it's just asking for trouble while trying to use handheld electronic devices. And let's not even talk about the horrific images that come to mind when thinking of getting an MRI with them in.
 
2012-09-21 12:43:25 AM
The new RONCO Home Sex Change Kit! It slices, it dices, it even makes delicious Julianne Fry!

/But wait! There's more!
 
2012-09-21 12:47:40 AM

hubiestubert: "IT'S ALL A COMMIE TERRIST PLOT!"


FTFY. Now get off my Nev-R-Mow® bioengineered yard turf!
 
2012-09-21 12:49:18 AM
I really do want to get the magnet in the fingertip mod.
 
2012-09-21 12:50:51 AM
Vibrating genitalia
 
2012-09-21 12:55:12 AM
That 47% is getting bigger.
 
2012-09-21 01:00:05 AM

Lukeonia1: His talk of having magnets implanted in his fingertips is intriguing, to the point I might even consider it. However, it seems like it's just asking for trouble while trying to use handheld electronic devices. And let's not even talk about the horrific images that come to mind when thinking of getting an MRI with them in.


I too was very intrigued by the idea of a magnet in my fingertip. I don't really see the value in sensing electromagnet fields, but that doesn't mean I don't want to. My biggest hang up is the potential for harm to my electronics like my laptop. Obviously I'd have to be super careful if I was to try wearing a watch, though I can't imagine why I would.

Never thought about an MRI... yeah, you'd need to have it removed first.

And if you got the wand at the airport, methinks it would light up passing by it.

What other downsides could it have? I'm seriously interested in this strange idea.
 
2012-09-21 01:02:19 AM

brianbankerus: Lukeonia1: His talk of having magnets implanted in his fingertips is intriguing, to the point I might even consider it. However, it seems like it's just asking for trouble while trying to use handheld electronic devices. And let's not even talk about the horrific images that come to mind when thinking of getting an MRI with them in.

I too was very intrigued by the idea of a magnet in my fingertip. I don't really see the value in sensing electromagnet fields, but that doesn't mean I don't want to. My biggest hang up is the potential for harm to my electronics like my laptop. Obviously I'd have to be super careful if I was to try wearing a watch, though I can't imagine why I would.

Never thought about an MRI... yeah, you'd need to have it removed first.

And if you got the wand at the airport, methinks it would light up passing by it.

What other downsides could it have? I'm seriously interested in this strange idea.


Heh... try picking up just one paperclip from a box

/or a pin
//and those damned iron filings keep building up
 
2012-09-21 01:06:33 AM

Lukeonia1: hubiestubert: "IT'S ALL A COMMIE TERRIST PLOT!"

FTFY. Now get off my Nev-R-Mow® bioengineered yard turf!


To be fair, I'm going to be the old man in the nursing home asking for them to bring up my Ministry and Black Flag because I can't hear it so well...

Yeah. Nursing homes are going to be werrrrry interesting in another thirty or forty years...
 
2012-09-21 01:55:53 AM

TheOmni: I really do want to get the magnet in the fingertip mod.


I've been reading about this for the last hour now... Here is all the info you would ever want...
 
2012-09-21 01:57:56 AM

TheOmni: I really do want to get the magnet in the fingertip mod.


Wouldn't that be asking for trouble when handling digital media?
 
2012-09-21 02:04:47 AM

brianbankerus: TheOmni: I really do want to get the magnet in the fingertip mod.

I've been reading about this for the last hour now... Here is all the info you would ever want...


Haha, I totally have a bunch of different threads from that site open in my browser already. Plus checking out local body mod places, seeing if any of them seem like the place that might try this.
 
2012-09-21 02:07:40 AM

jimmyego: TheOmni: I really do want to get the magnet in the fingertip mod.

Wouldn't that be asking for trouble when handling digital media?


Short answer, nope.

Long answer, the magnet is really pretty weak. Because it is sitting inside your finger it doesn't actually need to be that strong. It can be damaging to older magnetic media (floppy disks, cassette tapes), but anything you would possibly use today (including hard disk drives) wouldn't be affected. The implants aren't even strong enough to harm a credit card stripe.
 
2012-09-21 02:27:55 AM
ih0.redbubble.net
 
2012-09-21 02:28:41 AM
All that body modification, you couldn't tweeze those eyebrows?
 
2012-09-21 03:01:42 AM

TheOmni: jimmyego: TheOmni: I really do want to get the magnet in the fingertip mod.

Wouldn't that be asking for trouble when handling digital media?

Short answer, nope.

Long answer, the magnet is really pretty weak. Because it is sitting inside your finger it doesn't actually need to be that strong. It can be damaging to older magnetic media (floppy disks, cassette tapes), but anything you would possibly use today (including hard disk drives) wouldn't be affected. The implants aren't even strong enough to harm a credit card stripe.


Thanks, that was my concern, appreciate the reply.

However, I want proper body mods:

i.imgur.com
 
2012-09-21 03:05:05 AM
Damn, I want me some shark-style electronic senses!
 
2012-09-21 03:42:48 AM

brianbankerus: Never thought about an MRI... yeah, you'd need to have it removed first.


Not really. It would just be a good idea.

I mean you could man up and just let it pop. I wouldn't, but it's a possibility.
 
2012-09-21 07:11:27 AM
Is getting a huge belly and a pony tail with a bald spot considered body modification?
 
2012-09-21 07:17:36 AM
I have the opposite fear: that each generation reacts against its parents'.

The Jazz generation begat the Eisenhower suburbanites begat the hippy generation begat the buttoned-down, suit-and-tie wearing '80s generation. I dread to think what the counter to today's inked, pierced, designer-drugged generation will be.
 
2012-09-21 07:50:45 AM
I don't have offspring, so when I see somebody with a stretched-out earlobe, I just smile and think, I hope your personality substitute works out for you. Does nothing for me, but I'm sure all the cool people are hip to your jive, daddyo.
 
2012-09-21 07:59:39 AM

Lukeonia1: His talk of having magnets implanted in his fingertips is intriguing, to the point I might even consider it. However, it seems like it's just asking for trouble while trying to use handheld electronic devices. And let's not even talk about the horrific images that come to mind when thinking of getting an MRI with them in.


You obviously could not have an MRI done with them, but they can be removed. And have to be anyway at some point, because all passive magnets eventually wear down; this was not explained in TFA, but has been elsewhere. The catch with it is the same as all other senses: it's there all the time, whether you want it to be or not. That's the thing about body modification: The one thing we've always got with us is our bodies, so whatever you do to that, you've got it with you all the time. They can also be hard to repair, and are so far impossible to replace.

This is what I think when I look at all the tattoos hipsters have. They look fine on young people, but they probably won't look as awesome when you're 80. (Or maybe they will; I shouldn't make too many assumptions.) But they're easier to remove now than they used to be, so it's probably moot. Piercings, though, are usually self-healing: remove the appliance, and the hole eventually closes over. (Except really big ones, like ear loops. But ears are funny anyway, and I wonder if everyone having ear work done knows that ears can be permanently distorted, irreparable short of plastic surgery.)

On a strictly aesthetic level, I find a lot of radical body modification hideous to look at. BUT -- and I really want to make this point -- that's entirely apart from what I think of modification generally, or what I think of those who do it. I take a generally Heinleinesque view of such things, which is to say that I'm culturally libertarian: What you choose to do is entirely up to you, not for me to judge, and I will judge you only by your character and what I perceive as the motive for your actions, observing only practical restrictions. (E.g., please follow health guidelines, but I don't care what your clothes look like.) I do NOT observe or respect cultural 'norms,' as I find them arbitrary and largely asinine. I wouldn't care if the clerk at the gas station is 400 lbs., buck nekkid, and has a zillion tats and piercings; if they're polite to me and make correct change, that's all I feel I have a right to ask or expect from anyone.

With that, it seems to me that the largest part of this discussion is over what people think, and my question for that is, "What part of that matters, and why?"
 
2012-09-21 08:16:46 AM

czetie: I have the opposite fear: that each generation reacts against its parents'.


I'm not certain that's true. The jazz age didn't give us the Eisenhower suburbanites- it gave us the beats. And the beats gave us the hippies. And the hippies gave us an explosion of countercultures in the 70s, which carried into the 80s. And that's just the mainstream cultures. Minority countercultures were thriving through that entire period- jazz culture and 90s gang culture are mirrors of each other, even including the violence and drugs.

There are always cultures and counter-cultures. The distinction isn't by generation, but by economic cycle. When things are good, when people are happy and well fed, culture will dominate. When things aren't so good, counter-cultures rise up. It's the age old distinction between conservatism and progressivism.
 
2012-09-21 08:19:16 AM
With the speed that technology is moving, 40 years from now we'll be able to 'modify' our own body with a socket wrench and a soldering iron.

Hey Jim, did you get new legs?

Why yes. These are the newest model from Athletic Systems Incorporated. I had some corrosion around the knees in my old pair so it was time for an upgrade.
 
2012-09-21 08:24:40 AM

jimmyego: TheOmni: I really do want to get the magnet in the fingertip mod.

Wouldn't that be asking for trouble when handling digital media?


By 'digital' media I assume you mean magnetic, since the kind of magnetic field that could threaten an optical disc would probably stop your heart first. And by magnetic media, I assume you mean things like hard drives and flash cards, since few people use floppy disks anymore. Not that it matters, since this thing is so tiny and weak, it's unlikely to affect anything that most people would handle. It's passive and only big enough to jostle a few nerves. So for most people, no.
 
2012-09-21 08:33:55 AM

Egoy3k: With the speed that technology is moving, 40 years from now we'll be able to 'modify' our own body with a socket wrench and a soldering iron.

Hey Jim, did you get new legs?

Why yes. These are the newest model from Athletic Systems Incorporated. I had some corrosion around the knees in my old pair so it was time for an upgrade.


The first thing I'm buying is knees.
 
2012-09-21 08:41:15 AM
I'm Andrew Ryan and I approve this message

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2012-09-21 08:41:31 AM
Did he interview JC Denton?
 
2012-09-21 08:56:39 AM

thecpt: Did he interview JC Denton?


Much more subtle than the guy above you. On every level of both the source material and the comment. I approve.


Also, I fully hope to end my life as something no longer recognizably human. A bank of super-computers physically located in a nitrogen pool on a moon of Jupiter would work for me. Or as part of a biologically-linked collective on the bottom of the sea.
 
2012-09-21 09:09:47 AM
I know a gal who clacks when she walks
Cause she wears in her labia slaymaker locks
/true.
 
2012-09-21 09:11:55 AM
I first asked.about.this two decades ago...

Also, waiting on implantable tail. I've got phantom limb syndrome here.
 
2012-09-21 09:25:09 AM
I plan to parent my children, teach them self respect, and nurture their self-confidence so that they won't feel compelled to "express their individuality" through trivial means such as body modification.

/better to be unique than to look unique
 
2012-09-21 09:37:20 AM

hubiestubert: Lukeonia1: hubiestubert: "IT'S ALL A COMMIE TERRIST PLOT!"

FTFY. Now get off my Nev-R-Mow® bioengineered yard turf!

To be fair, I'm going to be the old man in the nursing home asking for them to bring up my Ministry and Black Flag because I can't hear it so well...

Yeah. Nursing homes are going to be werrrrry interesting in another thirty or forty years...


Oh grandpa, you and your classic rock.... It is so cute you still listen to that old stuff, I don't know why you hate this new music.
 
2012-09-21 09:41:48 AM

LowbrowDeluxe: Also, I fully hope to end my life as something no longer recognizably human. A bank of super-computers physically located in a nitrogen pool on a moon of Jupiter would work for me. Or as part of a biologically-linked collective on the bottom of the sea.


Maybe located at the bottom of a converted abandoned mine in Idaho would make you Glad?Ossified circuitry sounds painful, but maybe there are upgrades for that.

/my follow up of somewhat subtlety
 
2012-09-21 10:23:01 AM
media.screened.com

/not obscure
 
2012-09-21 10:46:49 AM

Lukeonia1: hubiestubert: "IT'S ALL A COMMIE TERRIST PLOT!"

FTFY. Now get off my Nev-R-Mow® bioengineered yard turf!


I would pay good money for that sort of lawn
 
2012-09-21 11:04:35 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: Vibrating genitalia


i.imgur.com

you rang?
 
2012-09-21 11:31:53 AM

Summercat: I first asked.about.this two decades ago...

Also, waiting on implantable tail. I've got phantom limb syndrome here.


Oh lord. Just what we need. Furries modding themselves out with tails, claws, cat ears, etc. Guess what? We're not hiring, Lion-O!
 
2012-09-21 11:44:38 AM
I remember reading about the magnet implants a few years ago. They were having problems with the silicone casing failing and the magnets disolving. Glad they fixed that.
 
2012-09-21 11:44:42 AM
I've never been huge on body modification as it has existed (piercing/tats) but man, what I wouldn't give to have functional implants: Watches, optics, sensors, tools, etc. Hell, I'd replace my ring finger for a powered multitool, and my bad eye for a cyberoptic with lowlight and anti-dazzle. Maybe even get some sort of strengthening for my lower back, so that it doesnt hurt so much anymore.

/with the anti-dazzle optic option, you don't need sunglasses!
//but you should wear em anyway
 
2012-09-21 11:59:25 AM
only thing i liked out of the new total recall. bioluminescent tattoos. i'd get one of those.
 
2012-09-21 12:13:45 PM

brianbankerus: What other downsides could it have? I'm seriously interested in this strange idea.


You'll constantly get locked out of hotel rooms because you'll deprogram your key every time you touch it.
 
2012-09-21 12:28:36 PM

whosits_112: Summercat: I first asked.about.this two decades ago...

Also, waiting on implantable tail. I've got phantom limb syndrome here.

Oh lord. Just what we need. Furries modding themselves out with tails, claws, cat ears, etc. Guess what? We're not hiring, Lion-O!


'cept I already has a job, and if push comes to shove, can get off my lazy ass and work jobs where they don't care about stuff like that :3
 
2012-09-21 12:33:38 PM

Summercat: whosits_112: Summercat: I first asked.about.this two decades ago...

Also, waiting on implantable tail. I've got phantom limb syndrome here.

Oh lord. Just what we need. Furries modding themselves out with tails, claws, cat ears, etc. Guess what? We're not hiring, Lion-O!

'cept I already has a job, and if push comes to shove, can get off my lazy ass and work jobs where they don't care about stuff like that :3


I think we should keep the "I'm an animal trapped in a human body" thing to where it belongs: FantasyLand.
 
2012-09-21 12:58:13 PM

whosits_112: Summercat: whosits_112: Summercat: I first asked.about.this two decades ago...

Also, waiting on implantable tail. I've got phantom limb syndrome here.

Oh lord. Just what we need. Furries modding themselves out with tails, claws, cat ears, etc. Guess what? We're not hiring, Lion-O!

'cept I already has a job, and if push comes to shove, can get off my lazy ass and work jobs where they don't care about stuff like that :3

I think we should keep the "I'm an animal trapped in a human body" thing to where it belongs: FantasyLand.


Have fun agreeing with all the fundies then :)
 
2012-09-21 01:10:53 PM

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I was wondering whether to go with a Bioshock or a Transmetropolitan reference.
 
2012-09-21 01:37:14 PM

brianbankerus: I too was very intrigued by the idea of a magnet in my fingertip. I don't really see the value in sensing electromagnet fields, but that doesn't mean I don't want to.


Get magnets with opposing polarities in each end of your peener and you could jerk off without moving a muscle. Better get some lube though as I could imagine this generating some serious friction.
 
2012-09-21 01:56:34 PM

whosits_112: Summercat: whosits_112: Summercat: I first asked.about.this two decades ago...

Also, waiting on implantable tail. I've got phantom limb syndrome here.

Oh lord. Just what we need. Furries modding themselves out with tails, claws, cat ears, etc. Guess what? We're not hiring, Lion-O!

'cept I already has a job, and if push comes to shove, can get off my lazy ass and work jobs where they don't care about stuff like that :3

I think we should keep the "I'm an animal trapped in a human body" thing to where it belongs: FantasyLand.


Furries aside, I could see the appeal of sporting a huge set of antlers in an urban setting: Ladies, I'm virile as f*ck right now. I have these built-in handstraps on my head for leverage in bed.

And the tragic misunderstandings in rural settings will weed out the people who can't plan ahead properly from the gene pool.

You have to admit, it'd be funnier than all those twits who got those hanzi-smatter tattoos.
 
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