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2012-09-21 01:40:54 AM
Why hasn't pot been legalized? MONEY. Few existing large industries see any money in it and most governments believe it will reduce their overall tax revenue. They believe legalized pot would be revenue negative due to the alcohol and tobacco sales it would displace. Governments will have to be dragged into accepting its complete legality. Referendums are probably the only way, because even the most liberal of politicos knows the huge hit it will make on tax revenue.

Cannabis is expensive now, even decriminalized weed, but only because of the huge costs of keeping it hidden. Even decriminalized weed needs illicit production and transportation, that is all very expensive. Were it legal, it would be ridiculously inexpensive to grow at industrial scales. It would certainly be no more expensive to grow than tobacco. A cannabis joint should be far cheaper to make than tobacco cigarettes made of complex ingredients and additives. Even with the tremendous complexity and expensive additives used in tobacco cigarettes, the production cost of a single tobacco cigarette is less than 5 cents.

Five farking cents - an industrially produced joint should cost even less. Even if the government added a massive FOUR THOUSAND percent tax, the retail price of a chemical-free, high-quality, reliable, consistent, joint would be $2. Two farking dollars. Cheaper than beer, cheaper than whiskey and because a good high could be had for that $2, providing a lot less tax revenue. (And yes, fully legalized $2 joints would put just about ever current dealer, medical dispensary and independent grower completely out of business, forever.)

The established tobacco and alcohol industries have done the numbers. They're smart people, they're not lobbying for legality. If it starts to near reality, they'll lobby heavily against it. They don't want any part of legalized cannabis. There's no money in it. Most of the world's governments are on the same page, it would reduce their tax revenue, they'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming towards legalized pot.

/fully in favor of legalized, taxed pot
//fully opposed to decriminalized, untaxed pot (there's absolutely no way to tax decriminalized products)
 
2012-09-21 01:41:10 AM
grinnel

Paregoric is a tincture.

//

Anybody who can get worked up about weed at this late date needs a girlfriend.
 
2012-09-21 01:41:18 AM

MrHelpful: Weaver95: now remember - it is the OFFICIAL policy of the US government that cannibis has NO valid medical properties. if you use cannabis in ANY way for ANY reason, the US federal government WILL find you, they will arrest you and they will put you in jail. No exceptions, no excuses, zero...tolerance.

enjoy your slow and painful death from cancer, and be comforted by the knowledge that cannabis will never be used to save your life.

I guess you missed the part of the article which said you cant smoke enough pot to get the healing effect. In other words, there's no connection between smoking pot and stopping the ravages of cancer. But, you're a zealot and that's what zealots do - conveniently ignore things which don't fit their narrative.



No but you know what smoking pot does do for cancer patients? It makes eating bearable for patients on chemotherapy. This reason along is good enough one to legalize it.
Nothing flips someone from being opposed to marijuana to pro marijuana like seeing the affects of it on friends and family that are having issues with their chemotherapy.


As a non-user, I don't give a shiat wtf stoners do. I have never been negatively impacted by a stoner. Legalizing it would simply get them all out of everyone faces. It does not actually impact me in any way shape or form whether they smoke or not, and our country could stop spending a stupid amount of money on enforcing policies that do not actually provide any benefit to society, outside of a topic that everyone can get their panties in a bunch over because everyone likes complaining about things, and a bunch of money to a defective prison industry.



Point is if you oppose medicinal marijuana I hope you get cancer (no I really do, if you feel like pointlessly increasing the suffering of others and there are no negative impacts on you then just fark off and die (of cancer)), and find yourself unable to eat, we will see how quick you change your tune about legalization of medicinal marijuana.
 
2012-09-21 01:45:47 AM
 
2012-09-21 01:45:54 AM

Enigmamf: Weaver95: GAT_00: Desprez, a molecular biologist, spent decades studying ID-1, the gene that causes cancer to spread. Meanwhile, fellow researcher Sean McAllister was studying the effects of Cannabidiol, or CBD, a non-toxic, non-psychoactive chemical compound found in the cannabis plant. Finally, the pair collaborated, combining CBD and cells containing high levels of ID-1 in a petri dish.

"What we found was that his Cannabidiol could essentially 'turn off' the ID-1," Desprez told HuffPost. The cells stopped spreading and returned to normal.

So, the Cannabidiol can be synthesized I assume? Cool. But to people who are inevitably going to come in here and demanding we legalize pot, I would point out that nobody has proved that smoking pot stops cancer. Use the actual medicine, not the excuse.

why create a synthetic when you could easily grow and extract what you need from the plant itself? cheaply too, not to mention that the plant itself is relatively easy to breed into useful strains.

of course, once you admit that cannabis DOES have useful medical properties, the ENTIRE argument against legalization falls apart. And that's why we'd rather let people die a horrible painful death than legalize the meds that would save their lives.

Cannabidiol is not schedule 1, just unprocessed cannibis.


You don't process cannabis. Look at the schedule drugs Cannabis is listed with, and figure out something real fast when you look. There isn't a chemical process to produce a working drug. It's trimmed, sure, then dried. Funny thing, the cured cannabis doesn't have an overdose threshold. The only caveat is you can't use the same cannabis regularly. It has to be a different strain for the drug's effect to work. This might be the only reason drug companies will fail, and it's the beauty of our bodies and nature at play.

We require variety in our diets for all good things to be effective. By nature, we get bored.

Fun fact:
You could put ditch weed in a cooler with dry ice, and the dry ice/CO2 would increase the level of THC as it dissipates. I guess you could call that processing.
 
2012-09-21 01:54:31 AM
Launching a new war on cancer

Wonder if they will look at cannabis at all in this study
 
2012-09-21 01:54:38 AM
I'm sorry, but the anti pot crowd hasn't m a cogent argument in a looooooooong time.

It's obvious to pretty much everyone that there are medical benefits to cannabis. It shouldn't be listed as a schedule 1 narcotic. Especially since no one but the government considers it a narcotic at all.

"hurpadurp pot bad make lazy and stupid". fark you. Why don't you alcoholics go get drunk and fight. After all, that's all consuming beer does, makes you fight and beat your wives. Even the occasional beer. Fighting and wife beating: alcohol.

I don't even smoke up, but would still rather hang out with stoners than fighting, wife beating alcohol users.
 
2012-09-21 02:01:51 AM

picturescrazy: PhiloeBedoe: uh...wrong thread

I don't know what it's from, but it doesn't really seem all that out of place in here.


I disagree, that's clearly meth, not weed.

/then again, the local anti-drug crusaders seem to have been putting up anti-tobacco ads aimed at teens...but the actions they ascribe to tobacco clearly are the work of alcohol.
//like "would post THOSE party pictures", "Would crash your car" "Would get you fired from work"...
 
2012-09-21 02:02:01 AM

MrHelpful:

I guess you missed the part of the article which said you cant smoke enough pot to get the healing effect. In other words, there's no connection between smoking pot and stopping the ravages of cancer. But, you're a zealot and that's what zealots do - conveniently ignore things which don't fit their narrative.


I think you're a bit quick to call him a zealot. Let's take a quick look at what "schedule 1" is supposed to be:

Schedule I Controlled Substances

Substances in this schedule have a high potential for abuse, have no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States, and there is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.

Now, this seems a self-fulfilling prophecy. If something is schedule 1, how can a place even test if there is even the possibility for medical use to be accepted? But some places, such as this research lab, have moved beyond that (possibly illegally). In doing so, they've found that the plant can and does have medical use. You're right in saying that it's not at plant concentration levels, but the plant itself can be used to produce the medicine, without having to go through a roundabout synthesis process. This directly contradicts the claim that there is no accepted medical use.

Further, there is no lack of accepted safety for use of the drug. Marijuana is safer than caffeine and nicotine, yet it's still considered schedule 1. The potential for abuse is no worse than alcohol, caffeine, or nicotine, yet we allow those and not it.

Basically, there's no reason for it to be scheduled. We allow smoking. We allow drinking. Yet somehow cannabis is considered worse than those. Not only worse, but so much so that it cannot even be considered as legal. That doesn't make sense.
 
2012-09-21 02:06:53 AM
Patent #6630507


Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants

Abstract
Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia. Nonpsychoactive cannabinoids, such as cannabidoil, are particularly advantageous to use because they avoid toxicity that is encountered with psychoactive cannabinoids at high doses useful in the method of the present invention. A particular disclosed class of cannabinoids useful as neuroprotective antioxidants is formula (I) wherein the R group is independently selected from the group consisting of H, CH.sub.3, and COCH.sub.3. ##STR1##
 
2012-09-21 02:07:45 AM

Tawnos: We allow smoking. We allow drinking.

"Selling is legal, farking ls legal. So why isn't selling farking legal?" --George Carlin
/just trying to throw some other pleasurable activities into the thread
 
2012-09-21 02:11:31 AM

WeenerGord: Launching a new war on cancer

Wonder if they will look at cannabis at all in this study


Cancer is the biggest moneymaker the medical industry has. It's something like 50 grand a year for cancer treatment drugs alone, which only cost pennies to make. Finding a cure has never been a priority for them. The only reason they pretend there's some massive effort to find a cure is so well intentioned people donate money to them.

Just look at how every drug with promising potential to cure cancer is buried under 20 years of testing, while dodgy drugs for relatively insignificant things are rushed to market, and often found to be harmful later.

The best thing about a chemical in weed being an effective cure or treatment is it bypasses the pharmaceutical industry. fark those ghouls.
 
2012-09-21 02:12:58 AM

GAT_00: King Something: Well, there's THAT, there's the fact that legalized cannabis would mean people would start buying books and newspapers printed on hemp paper instead of wood paper, and the devil weed makes colored folks play jazz music and look at white women.

You don't legalize a drug for it's side effects.


Hey everyone, point and laugh at the ignorant fellow who doesn't know what the medical term "side effect" means.

I'd engage him directly but he has such blinders on (or in troll mode) that there is no discussing the topic with him.
 
2012-09-21 02:13:21 AM

GAT_00: Desprez, a molecular biologist, spent decades studying ID-1, the gene that causes cancer to spread. Meanwhile, fellow researcher Sean McAllister was studying the effects of Cannabidiol, or CBD, a non-toxic, non-psychoactive chemical compound found in the cannabis plant. Finally, the pair collaborated, combining CBD and cells containing high levels of ID-1 in a petri dish.

"What we found was that his Cannabidiol could essentially 'turn off' the ID-1," Desprez told HuffPost. The cells stopped spreading and returned to normal.

So, the Cannabidiol can be synthesized I assume? Cool. But to people who are inevitably going to come in here and demanding we legalize pot, I would point out that nobody has proved that smoking pot stops cancer. Use the actual medicine, not the excuse.


Criminalization of cannabis makes it far more difficult to fund research for medical applications.

Regardless, criminalization has a far greater negative impact on society than legalization ever did / could.
 
2012-09-21 02:16:47 AM

Vitamin Pb: I love how the stoners can't read TFA and think that their addiction helps stop cancer.

Wait, you say marijuana isn't addictive? Well it certain leads to cognitive breakdown. Just look at the level of derp from the users in here.


No physical addiction. Anything can have psychological addiction. Anything from chocolate to Doctor Who.
 
2012-09-21 02:17:04 AM

RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 650x469] (with Tom Hanks stoner cameo) 

[i.imgur.com image 650x461]
[i.imgur.com image 647x461]


Just so you know, that's +eleventy Intersites.

/Link
//off thy fields I sans a proper rejoinder de la ole English
 
2012-09-21 02:20:32 AM

GAT_00: King Something: Well, there's THAT, there's the fact that legalized cannabis would mean people would start buying books and newspapers printed on hemp paper instead of wood paper, and the devil weed makes colored folks play jazz music and look at white women.

You don't legalize a drug for it's side effects.


Viagra
 
2012-09-21 02:23:56 AM
I submitted this too late. My headline:

Marijuana can cure cancer. Still no cure for munchies."

/I haz a sad.
 
2012-09-21 02:31:11 AM
Oh Ishould have included this: the 'main effect' of a drug is whatever it is you took it to do. It is not necessarily the strongest effect the drug has on you.

The side effects are every reported or measured effects in the testing of the drug.

Yes, that means a dual-purpose drug can be marketed and prescribed with different main effects.

I take aspirin for a headache. My dad takes it to thin his blood. Each is the drug's main effect for us while the other person's main effect is our side effect.

Finally, for the stupid Gats of the world, increased appetite is a great side effect for the cancer sufferer taking pot for the pain of chemo, as is the easy transition to sleep. It doesn't matter if it can cure cancer as it already has a medical use.

Unless gat would ban all pain killers except one (or x, should he be able to define exactly why only x types should be legal) of course. But that's a pretty stupid approach to medicine isn't it?
 
2012-09-21 02:54:38 AM

Weaver95: now remember - it is the OFFICIAL policy of the US government that cannibis has NO valid medical properties. if you use cannabis in ANY way for ANY reason, the US federal government WILL find you, they will arrest you and they will put you in jail. No exceptions, no excuses, zero...tolerance.

enjoy your slow and painful death from cancer, and be comforted by the knowledge that cannabis will never be used to save your life.


Not actually wholly correct. Marinol is a pill form of THC, and it's available by prescription in US and Canada. However, it is slow to absorb and thus difficult to dose accurately, and people seeking pain relief or to counteract nausea (primarily from chemo) don't prefer it. It also lacks CBD which seems to have some additional psychoactive properties, primarily when COMBINED with THC. Arguably self-dosing via inhalation is safer because its effects are immediate and patients can adjust the dose accurately.

This study used cannabidiol (CBD), which is only mildly psychoactive in itself. It'd not overly difficult to build a study around CBD, and it's hardly unfeasible to get a CBD-based drug sold in the US.
 
2012-09-21 02:55:18 AM

RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 650x469] (with Tom Hanks stoner cameo) 

[i.imgur.com image 650x461]
[i.imgur.com image 647x461]


So...the writers confused how marijuana works with how LSD works. Good thing it's funny.

/Maybe Reverend Jim forgot what it was he was really taking and botched the story?
 
2012-09-21 03:11:29 AM
"We want to get started with trials as soon as possible." said Pierre Desprez, "As soon as I can find some ice for my new bong."
upload.wikimedia.org 
/hot, but not
 
2012-09-21 03:31:31 AM

Weaver95: GAT_00: Desprez, a molecular biologist, spent decades studying ID-1, the gene that causes cancer to spread. Meanwhile, fellow researcher Sean McAllister was studying the effects of Cannabidiol, or CBD, a non-toxic, non-psychoactive chemical compound found in the cannabis plant. Finally, the pair collaborated, combining CBD and cells containing high levels of ID-1 in a petri dish.

"What we found was that his Cannabidiol could essentially 'turn off' the ID-1," Desprez told HuffPost. The cells stopped spreading and returned to normal.

So, the Cannabidiol can be synthesized I assume? Cool. But to people who are inevitably going to come in here and demanding we legalize pot, I would point out that nobody has proved that smoking pot stops cancer. Use the actual medicine, not the excuse.

why create a synthetic when you could easily grow and extract what you need from the plant itself? cheaply too, not to mention that the plant itself is relatively easy to breed into useful strains.

of course, once you admit that cannabis DOES have useful medical properties, the ENTIRE argument against legalization falls apart. And that's why we'd rather let people die a horrible painful death than legalize the meds that would save their lives.


If you grow it, the Pfizer can't patent it and charge you out the ass for it. Why do you hate capitalism?
 
2012-09-21 03:40:53 AM

Lligeret: MrHelpful: Weaver95: now remember - it is the OFFICIAL policy of the US government that cannibis has NO valid medical properties. if you use cannabis in ANY way for ANY reason, the US federal government WILL find you, they will arrest you and they will put you in jail. No exceptions, no excuses, zero...tolerance.

enjoy your slow and painful death from cancer, and be comforted by the knowledge that cannabis will never be used to save your life.

I guess you missed the part of the article which said you cant smoke enough pot to get the healing effect. In other words, there's no connection between smoking pot and stopping the ravages of cancer. But, you're a zealot and that's what zealots do - conveniently ignore things which don't fit their narrative.


No but you know what smoking pot does do for cancer patients? It makes eating bearable for patients on chemotherapy. This reason along is good enough one to legalize it.
Nothing flips someone from being opposed to marijuana to pro marijuana like seeing the affects of it on friends and family that are having issues with their chemotherapy.


As a non-user, I don't give a shiat wtf stoners do. I have never been negatively impacted by a stoner. Legalizing it would simply get them all out of everyone faces. It does not actually impact me in any way shape or form whether they smoke or not, and our country could stop spending a stupid amount of money on enforcing policies that do not actually provide any benefit to society, outside of a topic that everyone can get their panties in a bunch over because everyone likes complaining about things, and a bunch of money to a defective prison industry.



Point is if you oppose medicinal marijuana I hope you get cancer (no I really do, if you feel like pointlessly increasing the suffering of others and there are no negative impacts on you then just fark off and die (of cancer)), and find yourself unable to eat, we will see how quick you change your tune about legalization of ...


All I did was point out Weaver's hypocrisy. I never said which position I have on the subject. And, for that, you wish cancer on me. Fark you and your idiocy.
 
2012-09-21 03:41:30 AM

JerkyMeat: "We want to get started with trials as soon as possible." said Pierre Desprez, "As soon as I can find some ice for my new bong."
[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x1365] 
/hot, but not


T'was around then when research was into icey-cold bong hits. good to see a simple twist restricter has come about.
poortip: remove the water
/and use a coaster

----
 
2012-09-21 03:44:00 AM
I don't condone or endorse recreational use of MJ, but if you actually have cancer and it helps you gain back cravings for food and has positive side effects? I would call that a win/win.

It doesn't belong in the schedule 1 class. I am against us oregonians having a POUND of it before its illegal though.


/ffs what a dumb measure
 
2012-09-21 03:47:42 AM

RoyBatty:  (with Tom Hanks stoner cameo) 


Win.
 
2012-09-21 03:55:57 AM

truthseeker2083: GAT_00: King Something: Well, there's THAT, there's the fact that legalized cannabis would mean people would start buying books and newspapers printed on hemp paper instead of wood paper, and the devil weed makes colored folks play jazz music and look at white women.

You don't legalize a drug for it's side effects.

Viagra


Rogaine
 
2012-09-21 04:04:23 AM

viscountalpha: I don't condone or endorse recreational use of MJ, but if you actually have cancer and it helps you gain back cravings for food and has positive side effects? I would call that a win/win.

It doesn't belong in the schedule 1 class. I am against us oregonians having a POUND of it before its illegal though.


/ffs what a dumb measure

 
2012-09-21 04:56:03 AM

truthseeker2083: GAT_00: King Something: Well, there's THAT, there's the fact that legalized cannabis would mean people would start buying books and newspapers printed on hemp paper instead of wood paper, and the devil weed makes colored folks play jazz music and look at white women.

You don't legalize a drug for it's side effects.

Viagra


Antabuse.
 
2012-09-21 05:16:51 AM

PainInTheASP: Wait...wasn't it supposed to cause cancer last week? I feel like I'm watching a real bummer of a tennis match.

/Man.


yes but at a rate where in the entire population of the US about 3 people will die every 2 years. Can openers are more dangerous. This on the other hand is effective against many cancers and will save thousands of lives.

Perspective, how does that work?
 
2012-09-21 06:22:21 AM
huh, saw this link elsewhere thought it was a hoax
 
2012-09-21 06:42:42 AM
Awful lot of zealots around here. Wake me when cannabis has been shown to prevent metastasis in actual people, not just lab rats or cells in a Petri dish.

/cancer pharmacist
//despite the hype, many of my patients don't like Marinol and prefer Remeron or Megace to boost their appetite
 
2012-09-21 08:06:38 AM
Can't wait for the baby boomers to all die off, so the gen X'ers can legalize pot... we've already started to legalize same sex marriages... our plan to create the fall of humanity has begun!! MWUAHAHAHAH!!

Actually, everyone would just chill out more and it would be a planet full of happy unicorns and teddy bears.... with cookies... lot's of cookies...

Dude, wait, what?
 
2012-09-21 08:25:46 AM
for me the biggest turn off in college were the number of complete idiots surrounding me.

granted I was at one of the biggest college campuses in the nation, but still it was depressing to be swamped with a lack of sense.
 
2012-09-21 08:37:57 AM

Lligeret: Nothing flips someone from being opposed to marijuana to pro marijuana like seeing the affects of it on friends and family that are having issues with their chemotherapy.


MOTHERFARKING THIS!!! my mom went from massively opposed to weed to supportive of legalization when my grandpa was dying of leukemia. At that point, anything that would get him to eat more was fine in her book.

I, however, want it legal for far less noble reasons as well.
 
2012-09-21 08:45:09 AM

Ishidan: picturescrazy: PhiloeBedoe: uh...wrong thread

I don't know what it's from, but it doesn't really seem all that out of place in here.

I disagree, that's clearly meth, not weed.

/then again, the local anti-drug crusaders seem to have been putting up anti-tobacco ads aimed at teens...but the actions they ascribe to tobacco clearly are the work of alcohol.
//like "would post THOSE party pictures", "Would crash your car" "Would get you fired from work"...


isn't meth more of a study aid than anything??
 
2012-09-21 08:48:25 AM
Whelp, seems the part that makes you high has nothing to do with the alleged positive effects.. and apparently smoking it won't ever give you enough of it to be effective. So it isn't an excuse to sit around and get high all day as much as you potheads would like it to be.
 
2012-09-21 08:48:54 AM
There are no medicinal uses for the demon weed.

I know because it's a schedule 1 substance and I trust the government.

/ And I vote republican
 
2012-09-21 09:11:48 AM
Color me shocked, a naturally occurring substance has medicinal effects more potent than their "prescription" counterparts.
 
2012-09-21 09:22:18 AM
Sure gives a whole new meaning to the saying "A lid of prevention..."

/old school
 
2012-09-21 09:57:28 AM
Whoa whoa whoa. Let's not make it medicine. Medicine is expensive.. Let's make it like nice, cheap booze.
 
2012-09-21 10:24:28 AM
Things like cancer and heart disease will eventually be a thing of the past. Then nature will find other ways to kill us in the form of diseases that we previously did not live long enough to develop. Then we will find ways to cure those diseases. Then nature will...
 
2012-09-21 10:35:18 AM

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Things like cancer and heart disease will eventually be a thing of the past. Then nature will find other ways to kill us in the form of diseases that we previously did not live long enough to develop. Then we will find ways to cure those diseases. Then nature will...


After AIDS there was NRS, after NRS there was UBT.
 
2012-09-21 10:41:06 AM

JerkyMeat: "We want to get started with trials as soon as possible." said Pierre Desprez, "As soon as I can find some ice for my new bong."
[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x1365] 
/hot, but not


Use a coaster dammit, you are leaving rings on the nice new table
 
2012-09-21 10:47:08 AM

cwick: "A lid of prevention..."


How many joints are in a lid?
 
2012-09-21 11:08:34 AM

WeenerGord: cwick: "A lid of prevention..."

How many joints are in a lid?


Two! ... I roll big joints.
 
2012-09-21 11:10:53 AM

Smackledorfer: Oh Ishould have included this: the 'main effect' of a drug is whatever it is you took it to do. It is not necessarily the strongest effect the drug has on you.

The side effects are every reported or measured effects in the testing of the drug.

Yes, that means a dual-purpose drug can be marketed and prescribed with different main effects.

I take aspirin for a headache. My dad takes it to thin his blood. Each is the drug's main effect for us while the other person's main effect is our side effect.

Finally, for the stupid Gats of the world, increased appetite is a great side effect for the cancer sufferer taking pot for the pain of chemo, as is the easy transition to sleep. It doesn't matter if it can cure cancer as it already has a medical use.

Unless gat would ban all pain killers except one (or x, should he be able to define exactly why only x types should be legal) of course. But that's a pretty stupid approach to medicine isn't it?


I have a genetic form of spinal arthritis (ankylosing spondylitis). One of the many reasons this sucks is that the medication I'm currently on interacts with most OTC analgesics, which means when I do something stupid like yesterday when I tweaked my knee doing squats, I can't take ibuprofen or anything to manage the pain and inflammation.

Except for weed. Cannabis is nonreactive both to my current medication and the toxic industrial strength medication that I'll need to be on if/when the arthritis progresses further.

Cannabis can't replace the main medication I'm on. But I have a condition where I need to exercise every day to prevent my spine from fusing to my pelvis, and I cannot legally acquire a non-reactive anti-inflammatory drug that increases appetite and helps me fall asleep. That seems stupid to me.
 
2012-09-21 11:22:33 AM

The Envoy: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Things like cancer and heart disease will eventually be a thing of the past. Then nature will find other ways to kill us in the form of diseases that we previously did not live long enough to develop. Then we will find ways to cure those diseases. Then nature will...

After AIDS there was NRS, after NRS there was UBT.



NAS (the Black Shakes), Vitas, HMHVV (especially the krieger strain)
 
2012-09-21 11:25:42 AM

PhiloeBedoe: uh...wrong thread


Like anyone in this thread noticed anyway...
 
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