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(TMZ)   Kato Kaelin ignores the 15 minute rule, admits OJ Simpson really did it   (tmz.com) divider line 131
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2012-09-21 12:06:30 AM  

Mugato: If the Kardashians are going to get famous of of OJ's double murder, why shouldn't Kato?


what...what? is that how we wound up with those twats? SEND OJ TO JAIL!!!!
 
2012-09-21 12:16:55 AM  
"People hated me. I've been spat upon. They threw gum in my coffee."

/boo boo bee boo, Kato!
//I lol'd
 
2012-09-21 12:21:00 AM  

douchebag/hater: Yeah, he did it. And got away with it because of the black jurors.
We all know this and you blaming on the police is willful ignorance.


Let me guess... this is your car:

clutchmag.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2012-09-21 12:21:53 AM  

redly1: Mugato: If the Kardashians are going to get famous of of OJ's double murder, why shouldn't Kato?

what...what? is that how we wound up with those twats? SEND OJ TO JAIL!!!!



The Kardashian's dad, Robert Kardashian (RIP), was buds with OJ and was his big-shot defense attorney during the trial. There were even rumors recently that OJ is Khloe Kardashian's real biological father, although I think those may have been debunked.

/I hate that I know that second part
 
2012-09-21 12:54:19 AM  

Mikey1969: OJ didn't get off because he was "popular" or "rich", OJ got off because the LAPD is inept and handled the crime scene like a circus sideshow.

It doesn't matter if DNA is 1 in a trillion, when random people have traipsed through your crime scene, anyone could have planted it, and it cold have legitimately come from anyone . Because of that, the evidence was tainted, pure and simple. The OJ defense team just took good advantage of that.


They also let the defense team do a bang-up job of trying someone who wasn't even on trial. Once they got through with "Did Furhman use the N-word?" nobody even remembered what the trial was originally about.
 
2012-09-21 12:59:45 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Mikey1969: OJ didn't get off because he was "popular" or "rich", OJ got off because the LAPD is inept and handled the crime scene like a circus sideshow.

It doesn't matter if DNA is 1 in a trillion, when random people have traipsed through your crime scene, anyone could have planted it, and it cold have legitimately come from anyone . Because of that, the evidence was tainted, pure and simple. The OJ defense team just took good advantage of that.

They also let the defense team do a bang-up job of trying someone who wasn't even on trial. Once they got through with "Did Furhman use the N-word?" nobody even remembered what the trial was originally about.


Yeah I remember how the narrative changed... It ended up about discrediting Furman for sure. Worked, too. OJ walked, but then he discovered how nasty civil court can be. It's something I learned about in my CCW class, although they didn't associate it with OJ.
 
2012-09-21 01:09:23 AM  

shower_in_my_socks: - Nicole's Akita, who are defensive, did not attack the killer
- A neighbor thought he saw a white "van" leaving the scene, and another witness saw a white Bronco leaving the scene
- Kato saw OJ the night of the murders wearing the same type of clothing that left fibers on Goldman
- Kato heard a loud thump outside where the bloody glove was later found
- The limo driver who picked OJ up the night of the murders was waiting outside for OJ, who was late, and saw a man matching OJ's description walk into the house, right before OJ told the driver he was late because he had been sleeping -- OJ didn't answer the buzzer until right after the driver saw the "mystery man" go into the house
- There was a "mystery" black bag with OJ's other bags for his trip that night - Kato loaded all of OJ's bags, but wasn't allowed to touch that one, and it was never seen again. The limo driver said he saw 5 bags at OJ's house, but only 3 were in the car when they got to the airport, and he saw OJ standing near his trash bins before they left
- OJ had a history of violence against Nicole, and she told multiple friends that he would kill her - the last time was one week before she was killed
- There was a lot more blood evidence than what Fuhrman was accused of planting -- a ridiculous amount of DNA evidence at the scene, in his car, at his house, that alone should have convicted him
- Fibers from OJ's hat and clothes were at the crime scene, and the bloody glove had fibers from his Bronco and hair from Nicole
- Hair from OJ was found on Goldman
- Footprints left in blood at the crimescene match a size 12 Bruno Magli shoe, which OJ denies owning even though there's photographic evidence proving otherwise
- Despite the glove allegedly not fitting, it was XL, which was his correct size, and photographic evidence confirms he owned the same type of gloves
- A knuckle on OJ's right hand is cut, which matches the location of blood evidence at the murder scene - he gives three different stories about the cut
- When told in Chicago about Nicole's murder, OJ has no questions about it, and doesn't ask if his kids are safe, doesn't cry, and doesn't act surprised when police tell him he's a suspect
- OJ had an alibi for 23 of the 24 hours on the day of the murders - the missing hour with no alibi was when the murders happened
- OJ and his attorney gave conflicting stories about what he was doing during that missing hour
- OJ GOES ON A SLOW MOVING POLICE CHASE WHILE HOLDING A GUN TO HIS HEAD - a suicide note is later found
- OJ's friend who drove the Bronco said OJ was going to run to Mexico, and he had $8,000+ in cash that OJ was having him carry
- Police find a passport, and a fake beard and mustache in the Bronco - the beard and mustache were bought just two weeks before the murders

Nope, not guilty.


You haven't really read this board, have you? I don't think a single person has defended OJ. What we've said is that the case was mishandled from the beginning, and based on the evidence that wasn't discredited, the jury came up with the type of decision that they should have. It didn't convict the man most likely guilty, but we aren't supposed to convict the "most likely", that's where that whole reasonable doubt thing comes in. It's not perfect, but it's probably the best system that has ever existed.

If they based on "most likely", every case would get solved, but how many innocents would be in jail or dead?

By putting some of the key evidence in doubt, it removed the shadow of a doubt for some, and the evidence was placed in doubt by the actions of the LAPD and the DA.
 
2012-09-21 01:16:58 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Mikey1969: OJ didn't get off because he was "popular" or "rich", OJ got off because the LAPD is inept and handled the crime scene like a circus sideshow.

It doesn't matter if DNA is 1 in a trillion, when random people have traipsed through your crime scene, anyone could have planted it, and it cold have legitimately come from anyone . Because of that, the evidence was tainted, pure and simple. The OJ defense team just took good advantage of that.

They also let the defense team do a bang-up job of trying someone who wasn't even on trial. Once they got through with "Did Furhman use the N-word?" nobody even remembered what the trial was originally about.


Just a little of the Mark Furhman tapes. Yeah i would really believe testimony coming from this guy.

Also whether or not he ever planted evidence, which he took the fifth to. But that isn't an important thing to ask the lead detective, especially when you him on tape to admitting to planting evidence..

People seem to forget or ignore the fact that he took the fifth when asked if he ever planted evidence in the past. But of course OJ was acquitted because the jury was black and not because they couldn't trust the detectives and the evidence had all types of discrepancies.
 
2012-09-21 01:17:12 AM  

nmemkha: Runs_With_Scissors_: No. No, he didn't

From TMZ:

UPDATE: 12:58 PM PT -- We just spoke to Kato in Beverly Hills, and he insists he NEVER did an interview saying OJ murdered his wife. He says he has no idea where the quotes came from, adding, "I would never say something like this."

Kato Kaelin just told TMZ ... he NEVER told the New York Post that he knows OJ Simpson murdered his wife or that he's only coming forward now because the statute of limitations on perjury has run.

Kato says he was shocked when he read the report which quoted him as saying, "The statute of limitations has now passed ... so I can now say ... yes, he did it."

Kato tells TMZ ... he never said any of those things to reporter Cindy Adams or anyone else.

Kato says he has expressed his opinion over the years ... that he THINKS Simpson killed Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman ... but tells us, "I have no first hand knowledge."

Sounds like we have a Hollywood mystery. Better call the Hardly Boys:

[images.wikia.com image 425x328]


I have a RAGING clue!
 
2012-09-21 01:21:55 AM  
I'm told by a former colleague of Cochran's that there was an accomplice. This made prosecuting the case very touchy, because they had a weaker case against the accomplice & didn't charge him yet the accomplice's evidence made OJ's prosecution tricky (the glove did not fit). Furman was a turd in the punchbowl for the prosecution, also.

USA's legal system is a like a shiat sandwich; the more bread you got, the less shiat you'll eat.
 
2012-09-21 01:23:45 AM  
I heard that OJ's new girlfriend refused to marry him, because she was afraid that she might be brutally murdered...and that somebody might try to pin it on OJ.
 
2012-09-21 01:26:01 AM  
One of the things the jury never heawerd was that when OJ hired his first lawyer, the lawyer got him to agree to plead guilty and dispense with a jury trial. Had he done so, it would have been all over but the shouting. As it was Johnny Cochran showed up and got a good team together and persuaded OJ not to pleada guilty and that Johnny, et al, could get him off. OJ went with Cochran and the rest is history. As to whether OJ was really guilty...you decide but in my mind, a defendant who is a celeberity does not agree to plead guilty unless he really is guilty. So by OJ agreeing initially to plead guilty tells the tale in my opinion.
 
2012-09-21 01:26:41 AM  
Time warp this week on FARK. Monica Lewinski, Kato and OJ. I wonder who'll be next?
 
2012-09-21 01:31:08 AM  

CoonAce: I'm told by a former colleague of Cochran's that there was an accomplice. This made prosecuting the case very touchy, because they had a weaker case against the accomplice & didn't charge him yet the accomplice's evidence made OJ's prosecution tricky (the glove did not fit). Furman was a turd in the punchbowl for the prosecution, also.

USA's legal system is a like a shiat sandwich; the more bread you got, the less shiat you'll eat.



I'm surprised OJ was even there. Being a rich athlete you know he had connections with the powerful gangs in LA. Should have just done what smart people do and pay for a young dumb gang banger to do it.
 
2012-09-21 01:32:12 AM  

ongbok: Gyrfalcon: Mikey1969: OJ didn't get off because he was "popular" or "rich", OJ got off because the LAPD is inept and handled the crime scene like a circus sideshow.

It doesn't matter if DNA is 1 in a trillion, when random people have traipsed through your crime scene, anyone could have planted it, and it cold have legitimately come from anyone . Because of that, the evidence was tainted, pure and simple. The OJ defense team just took good advantage of that.

They also let the defense team do a bang-up job of trying someone who wasn't even on trial. Once they got through with "Did Furhman use the N-word?" nobody even remembered what the trial was originally about.

Just a little of the Mark Furhman tapes. Yeah i would really believe testimony coming from this guy.

Also whether or not he ever planted evidence, which he took the fifth to. But that isn't an important thing to ask the lead detective, especially when you him on tape to admitting to planting evidence..

People seem to forget or ignore the fact that he took the fifth when asked if he ever planted evidence in the past. But of course OJ was acquitted because the jury was black and not because they couldn't trust the detectives and the evidence had all types of discrepancies.


The jury was 1/2 black and 1/2 white, one hispanic. And they weren't present when Fuhrman took the 5th, and once he'd take the 5th with regard to the "n-word" thing, that was it--a witness cannot take the 5th for parts of his testimony. Either he testifies or he does not. After Fuhrman took the 5th, nothing else could be asked or answered.

Furhman could have been rehabilitated as a witness. Also, the evidence was not irretrievably tainted; a better set of prosecutors could have pulled out key pieces of untainted evidence. There was a lot of blood evidence that was more than adequate to tie Simpson to the murders that was not in question; but it was lost in the morass of conspiracy theories and n-word debates.

Also, it's worth noting that of all the evidence and testimony presented at the trial, only about 48% of it made it to the jury. That is, they had to make up their minds based on less than HALF what the TV audience and later commentators saw to make their decisions. By comparison, the judge in the civil trial allowed over 75% of all evidence and testimony presented (Source: LA Times right after the civil trial, but they make you pay to access it nowadays)

So it wasn't because the "jury was black"--they weren't--or that Furhman alone destroyed the case. The case was the prosecutors to lose--and they lost big time.
 
2012-09-21 01:52:40 AM  

phojo1946: One of the things the jury never heawerd was that when OJ hired his first lawyer, the lawyer got him to agree to plead guilty and dispense with a jury trial. Had he done so, it would have been all over but the shouting. As it was Johnny Cochran showed up and got a good team together and persuaded OJ not to pleada guilty and that Johnny, et al, could get him off. OJ went with Cochran and the rest is history. As to whether OJ was really guilty...you decide but in my mind, a defendant who is a celeberity does not agree to plead guilty unless he really is guilty. So by OJ agreeing initially to plead guilty tells the tale in my opinion.


People are convinced a lot of times to plead guilty when they are innocent when the death penalty is on the table, which hadn't been decided when he was arrested, so that doesn't mean much. Plus it was said that Cochrane got him to got to trial by convincing him that even if he did get convicted no jury would sentence him to death.
 
2012-09-21 02:06:09 AM  

Insatiable Jesus: OJ has a new website
http://\\\\/\//\////\/\\\\//\//\\\\/\\////


I'm easily amused, but that's the funniest thing I've seen all day.
 
2012-09-21 02:29:48 AM  

Gyrfalcon: ongbok: Gyrfalcon: Mikey1969: OJ didn't get off because he was "popular" or "rich", OJ got off because the LAPD is inept and handled the crime scene like a circus sideshow.

It doesn't matter if DNA is 1 in a trillion, when random people have traipsed through your crime scene, anyone could have planted it, and it cold have legitimately come from anyone . Because of that, the evidence was tainted, pure and simple. The OJ defense team just took good advantage of that.

They also let the defense team do a bang-up job of trying someone who wasn't even on trial. Once they got through with "Did Furhman use the N-word?" nobody even remembered what the trial was originally about.

Just a little of the Mark Furhman tapes. Yeah i would really believe testimony coming from this guy.

Also whether or not he ever planted evidence, which he took the fifth to. But that isn't an important thing to ask the lead detective, especially when you him on tape to admitting to planting evidence..

People seem to forget or ignore the fact that he took the fifth when asked if he ever planted evidence in the past. But of course OJ was acquitted because the jury was black and not because they couldn't trust the detectives and the evidence had all types of discrepancies.

The jury was 1/2 black and 1/2 white, one hispanic. And they weren't present when Fuhrman took the 5th, and once he'd take the 5th with regard to the "n-word" thing, that was it--a witness cannot take the 5th for parts of his testimony. Either he testifies or he does not. After Fuhrman took the 5th, nothing else could be asked or answered.

Furhman could have been rehabilitated as a witness. Also, the evidence was not irretrievably tainted; a better set of prosecutors could have pulled out key pieces of untainted evidence. There was a lot of blood evidence that was more than adequate to tie Simpson to the murders that was not in question; but it was lost in the morass of conspiracy theories and n-word debates.

Also, it's wort ...


After researching he didn't do it in front of the jury and the jury wasn't allowed to hear that he did. But the defense cross examination of him killed his credibility and the fact that the cross examination of him suddenly ended in my opinion was the nail in the coffin.
 
2012-09-21 02:41:13 AM  

intelligent comment below: douchebag/hater: And got away with it because of the black jurors.


But I bet you have a lot of black friends


It's a quasi-dormant troll alt. It doesn't have friends. Just green arrows.
 
2012-09-21 02:49:13 AM  

Red Shirt Blues: Time warp this week on FARK. Monica Lewinski, Kato and OJ. I wonder who'll be next?


I submitted six Color Me Badd related threads
 
2012-09-21 03:13:35 AM  

reklamfox: "People hated me. I've been spat upon. They threw gum in my coffee."



That's an oddly specific thing to do to some stranger you hate


They wrote "wash me" on my car window with their finger! :~(
 
2012-09-21 03:16:59 AM  
There are .07 trillion humans on earth
 
2012-09-21 03:17:48 AM  

ransack.: There are .07 trillion humans on earth


.007 I mean
 
2012-09-21 03:19:53 AM  

Gyrfalcon: The jury was 1/2 black and 1/2 white, one hispanic


No it wasn't

From an original jury pool of 40% white, 28% black, 17% Hispanic, and 15% Asian, the final jury for the trial had 10 women and 2 men, of which there were 8 blacks, 2 Hispanics, 1 half-Native American, half-white, and 1 white female.

Link
 
2012-09-21 06:53:17 AM  
Kato wants to go with Monica on the "Too Late Tour"
 
2012-09-21 08:01:34 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It wasn't the police work, it was the prosecuters. The same evidence from the police investigation was used competently during the civil case, which OJ lost.


Yeah but in Civil cases, the burden of proof is much, much lower.
 
2012-09-21 09:17:50 AM  

whatshisname: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It wasn't the police work, it was the prosecuters.

I think it was more a case of "functionally retarded jury syndrome".


No, the jury was following the judge's instructions, which were that if any part of the prosecution's case was unbelievable, they had to dismiss the validity of the entire thing.
 
2012-09-21 09:30:36 AM  
I always thought that the testimony by the old German guy neighbor was interesting. He claimed that he heard a black guy arguing outside Nicole's house.

That was predictably tossed out by the defense as "racist" and that you can't tell if a person is black by the way they speak.

I have often wondered why that wasn't challenged in court. I think I can personally identify with about 99% accuracy when someone is speaking if they are black or not, without seeing them. I agree that it's not completely accurate, especially when the person may have actually grown up in an actual Kings-English speaking areas like ex British colonies, but for most people in this country I think most of us can tell the difference.

Ebonics is an actual language, just ax the Oakland teachers union.
 
2012-09-21 10:30:44 AM  

Litterbox: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: It wasn't the police work, it was the prosecuters. The same evidence from the police investigation was used competently during the civil case, which OJ lost.

Yeah but in Civil cases, the burden of proof is much, much lower.


How many times does this have to be said before people start to understand it? Are there really that many people that dropped out before highschool? That's the only explanation since that fact is drilled into the youth in every history class that covers US history, as well as the mandatory civics class all students must take before graduating.
 
2012-09-21 10:56:01 AM  

Hector Remarkable: That hurts my feelings. i really thought he would like my gum-flavored coffee innovation. Man, you try to make some people's lives a little brighter and that's the thanks you get.


After lunch, I sometimes sip coffee right after a stick of mint gum instead of flossing (I'm not going to floss at work, goddamnit). It's actually delicious. Someone else's gum, no.
 
2012-09-21 11:52:07 AM  
If he helped a murderer go free, he's damn lucky if all he got was gum in his coffee.
 
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